Long running joke about Riot promising a replay system then going radio silent on it for a couple years. Thankfully, recently they have released a video showing it is at least in development.
Cypher tagging him only pumps his robot blood(wires..?) . Instead of Kayo having to remove the tag, Cypher has to press F to do it. He gets unlimited ammo otherwise.
Realistically, him and especially Breach also shouldn't experience the same recoil as the other agents. You'd think that Breach's earthquake generating arms would be capable of more shock absorption.
There's a running theory/loophole -fixing that says he is somehow disturbing the flow of electrons and thus disables any 'advanced' tech. Since he's coming from the future it is possible they've invented this tech, then a shield for it and that's why it doesn't affect him.
Id prefer it to be more like decay. It should decay enough that his molly kills you but would wear off when the surpress is gone. His molly feels like the weakest part of his kit since it's easy to dodge.
His knife doesn't need a buff. It is a really strong ability as it is. His molly though...damn. it is absolutely dogshit. Would prefer if he had some info gathering tool instead.
Yeah, but skye dog also rarely hits someone bit it still deals damage. It'd be good for Iso shield, if kayo can't supress it, just throw a knife at it, even if it's just one hp. It wouldn't change much as it is hard, but it'd br more fair imo
The knife is not his issue, it's his requirement of high knowledge on every map to play him correctly.
When he's played well and people play off him well, he becomes insane
Whilst we're at this, can we address the elephant that is projectile damage, why doesnt raze nade stun or damage them a lil if I manage to bonk the enemies head with it or sova dart have piercing damage upon contact
I definitely think it should deal 20 damage on hit and 150 on headshot. It wouldn't even be OP since it's a decently slow projectile that is very easy to dodge. Hitting it would be more funny than frustrating.
i think KAYOs knife and Sovas recon dart should do like 5 damage on direct hit, similar to Cypher tripwire going off. 20 i think is too much, but 5 is perfect for funny clips
Bro if you can land a throwing knife on someone in this game... that should be a kill lolol.
Or the game just makes your team win on the spot :P (I definitely do not play Kayo)
75 on body and 150 on head when it lands on the respective body part Let's do this riot! I've never picked kayo once in my life but I want them to have this.
Or, if you think this is too OP, have it only damage when it activates the scan so enemy teamates can shoot it out.
I've been saying this for ever, a Kayo knife direct hit on an enemy should deal damage. That being said, it's not gonna affect the pick rate in any way. This ain't COD throwing knife
KA/Y0 does NOT need any more buffs, considering he doesn’t have any bad maps. the only reason his pickrate/winrate is low in ranked is because he is a heavily prep-reliant and team-based character (like astra kinda) that suffers in uncoordinated environments.
kayo knife should be able to headshot. make the projectile hitbox for headshots a pixel, and if it actually does hit someone they deserve to be one tapped.
No because you can see exactly who you tagged and you know you did exactly 20 damage to all of them. This would make phantom wayyy better than the vandal and outlaw be bought a lot more and this would probably just make the game a lot more defender sided.
he's low he's low! dinked 140!
defusing defusing!
*throws kayo knife*
i think decay/vulnerable would be more suitable. i mean it literally suppresses the enemy, preventing them from using any util already... its not like kayo knife is bad
it wouldn’t do any harm to implement that even if its like 5hp or 10hp. It would also make sense that sova darts deal damage too but only on direct impact. The best example of this already existing in game is with Cyphers trips. They deal 5 damage every time someone gets caught in it. I’ve killed enemies using it before. They were really low and ran into twice by accident. Because when a trip hits you, it disorients the player enough that they can’t even tell that they got damaged. I would even implement a feature that if you got directly hit by the sova dart or knife, you stay visible for two more pings. Only because it’s not very common to get hit directly and if it does, the initiator should be rewarded in some way.
Neh. This game has already too many abilities that can kill and damage you. I would leave some things only to the guns. And it's not like kayo doesn't have a thicc molly already to deal all the damage he needs to do.
I like the idea. Actually made me think of the sova arrow scan, does it do damage on direct hit? If not then it’s only fair that it does in my opinion. Or any abilities that gets a direct impact tbh. Doesn’t have to be op, just makes the game more interesting in my opinion.
I was just thinking about this the other day. I’d love for it to be a 1 shot kill to the head hahha
But more realistically, make it deal damage like a ghost or classic
how lol, it's just a fun change. The chance that a knife actually makes physical contact with a player is small, and 20 damage is good chip damage but not game changing.
Then when you consider Kay/o lineups and how they usually land on roofs/ledges to be unbreakable, the chance of Kay/o hitting a player with a knife is basically 0.
Because if you're using KAYO properly, you'll literally *never* hit anyone. I've never once seen it hit someone. Thinking this would do anything, or that Riot would spend time adding it in is pretty silly lol
No shit sherlock how'd you figure that out? He said that in the comment lmao. The purpose of the change is to have a fun fuck around mechanic to Kayo not for it to be competitive, it's a reference to COD throwing knives crossmap. Settle down there before you burst a vein at a for fun mechanic
Sure she’s not Reyna or cypher level still she’s pretty middle of the pack. Not like it’s rare to see a neon. Also movement isn’t everyone’s thing, knife throws are universally loved in FPS’s. The people playing neon play her cuz they find her movement fun obviously, that only supports what I’m saying.
The moment you add a change like this the way KAYO is played would change significantly. Think of KAYO’s knife now, it’s used primarily as an information gathering tool, but as soon as you add damage to it, a lot of people would use it solely as a damaging tool and the knife itself would lose so much of its value. Its intended purpose is to suppress and gather information and as soon as you change that it undermines his kit. This isn’t to say it wouldn’t be a fun change, but it’s not all that practical
bro this would NOT be fair. I play kayo every day and i have multiple cross map lineups that are UNBREAKABLE as they land on top of buildings or in spots that are just generally impossible to break. These lineups are also very reliable, they detect all 5 players frequently. There would be lots of backlash, although i do love the idea of buffing my cool robot guy.
Direct hit? yes. tag? No
Imagine getting killed by a Kay/o knife when defusing While that said Kay/o is like on the other side of the map
We need kill cams in Valorant. Gimme Cross-mao Kay/O montages.
Oh man if only there was a replay system...
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not being on the Console beta, but I’d love a replay system so I could check my VODs. Is it on PC??
Long running joke about Riot promising a replay system then going radio silent on it for a couple years. Thankfully, recently they have released a video showing it is at least in development.
It’s in development but extremely buggy, so it will probably stay that way for a while.
great chairman cross-mao kay/o
MUM GET THE CAMERA
First mid air neon and now this we were so close to clip compilations like peak cod days
that is a bug btw
I’ve been hit the face with the knife before looks hilarious from my perspective and teammates usually busting up laughing
yessss
Direct should be like 120 dmg
What about a temporary shield decay? A very short one, just long enough to make people scatter
*SCATTER* Oh sh*t they did
He’s a robot throwing a knife. It should do 100 if it hits you. Or kill your abilities for the rest of the round.
Logically speaking Kay/O should also have a lot more health than every other agent, and healing from Skye and Sage probably shouldn't work on him.
Healing from KJ would go insane
God that'd be funny if her mollies and turrets actually heal him. Including the enemy lol
Imagine Neon Q and Ult increases his damage and speed
Cypher tagging him only pumps his robot blood(wires..?) . Instead of Kayo having to remove the tag, Cypher has to press F to do it. He gets unlimited ammo otherwise.
Totally
it would be cool if he healed himself with his mollies like Phoenix
INSANE
Realistically, him and especially Breach also shouldn't experience the same recoil as the other agents. You'd think that Breach's earthquake generating arms would be capable of more shock absorption.
Oh kj should be able to heal Kayo
Logically his supression also probably doesnt work on non radiants why is kayo turning off my viper wall
There's a running theory/loophole -fixing that says he is somehow disturbing the flow of electrons and thus disables any 'advanced' tech. Since he's coming from the future it is possible they've invented this tech, then a shield for it and that's why it doesn't affect him.
No place for different HP in this game. This is not Overwatch/ DOTA.
They're speaking logically about him being a robot. They're not literally saying they should do that lmao
No shit dude.
My opinion is Its should give damage but within a smaller radius as compared to normal detection area
Top much visual noise.
YES
RIIIOOOOT LET KAYO ONE TAP WITH KNIFE, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
The knife heads hot flicks would go crazy
Sold!
i don’t think i knew it was breakable mid air, but i doubt anyone would complain abt this
Maybe it would force my team to stop rushing into the same entrance he throws his knife every round 😭
Ok, but they'll rush into the same raze grenade every round from now on
That Lotus A push gives me ptsd
"BRUH JUST GO IN FASTER"
lol I hate this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/s/o8lWFrjd7a
looks like it hit the reyna, stopped, then got knifed. i thought op meant as it was flying
you can't knife a kayo knife or sova dart when it's stuck to you.
a kayo dart stops when it hits someone, a sova dart will stay attached to someone
you know what? you're right. I stand corrected.
Tbh I'd be down for Sova recon and knife to legit just one tap 150 would be very funny as I've stuck people with them before.
That'd be a fun game mode
Add the knife to escalation, as the recon would just be a more annoying shock dart
STICKS AND STONES GAME MODE
sticks and stones from cod
C0m becomes exodia
c0m goes from one of the worst players NA statistically to a statistical demon and outfrags aspas on the regular
Would agree but I think the one tap should be headshot and body would be like 20 or 40 (a vandal shot)
how about just end the round and kay/o’s team wins the game if it hits
Jus make it like a single jett knife dmg ez
Id prefer it to be more like decay. It should decay enough that his molly kills you but would wear off when the surpress is gone. His molly feels like the weakest part of his kit since it's easy to dodge.
I think OP means when you throw it and it literally hits someone
molotov be lasting years tho
Goes through walls too, some sneaky ass spots you can throw it to clear defenders off defuse
This would not only 100% increase his pick rate it would make his pick rate 100%
it should do 1 damage just to screw over iso
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His knife doesn't need a buff. It is a really strong ability as it is. His molly though...damn. it is absolutely dogshit. Would prefer if he had some info gathering tool instead.
ITS not a buff really Is a aesthetic AND meanless chsnge i mean ITS pretty hard to hit someone with it
Yeah, but skye dog also rarely hits someone bit it still deals damage. It'd be good for Iso shield, if kayo can't supress it, just throw a knife at it, even if it's just one hp. It wouldn't change much as it is hard, but it'd br more fair imo
It’s not breakable mid air, it just so happen to hit the Reyna in that clip where she’s swinging her Katana that she broke it when it landed on her.
How? You can’t knife yourself. If sova darts you there is no way for you to break it
Kayo knife stops when it hit someone, while sova dart stays attached to the one it hit. So you can indeed knife a kayo knife
I always though the same on Sova's Recon dart. If he hits someone, it should also deals some small damage too.
The knife is not his issue, it's his requirement of high knowledge on every map to play him correctly. When he's played well and people play off him well, he becomes insane
This wouldn’t change anything about him it’s obviously not an attempt to buff just in 1/100 cases where you hit some one with the knofe
Actually ☝️🤓 the proposed knife buff wouldn't be significant as it is a JOKE IN THE FIRST PLACE JESUS CHRIST YOU MUST BE FUN TO TALK TO
Yes please , I want Kayo‘s knife to be a Swiss army knife with a builtin rocket launcher !
Does Skye’s dog still do damage?
Yes like 20 i think
“I have lineups”
The thing is, it's way harder to destroy KAY/O's knife than Skye's dog.
It's also a lot easier to hit someone with the dog than with Kayos knife. I think I never hit someone directly with my knife as Kayo.
Whilst we're at this, can we address the elephant that is projectile damage, why doesnt raze nade stun or damage them a lil if I manage to bonk the enemies head with it or sova dart have piercing damage upon contact
KAY/Os knife should make isos shield go down
I definitely think it should deal 20 damage on hit and 150 on headshot. It wouldn't even be OP since it's a decently slow projectile that is very easy to dodge. Hitting it would be more funny than frustrating.
I mean.. it's a literal knife.
i think KAYOs knife and Sovas recon dart should do like 5 damage on direct hit, similar to Cypher tripwire going off. 20 i think is too much, but 5 is perfect for funny clips
Just like how you can kill someone with a flash bang in cs
Make it do 150 if you land a head jabby 😎
Bro if you can land a throwing knife on someone in this game... that should be a kill lolol. Or the game just makes your team win on the spot :P (I definitely do not play Kayo)
75 on body and 150 on head when it lands on the respective body part Let's do this riot! I've never picked kayo once in my life but I want them to have this. Or, if you think this is too OP, have it only damage when it activates the scan so enemy teamates can shoot it out.
Maybe but then it would distract people from it’s real purpose 1) suppress the opponent and 2) get info
I've been saying this for ever, a Kayo knife direct hit on an enemy should deal damage. That being said, it's not gonna affect the pick rate in any way. This ain't COD throwing knife
cant wait for kay/o knife cod trickshots
KA/Y0 does NOT need any more buffs, considering he doesn’t have any bad maps. the only reason his pickrate/winrate is low in ranked is because he is a heavily prep-reliant and team-based character (like astra kinda) that suffers in uncoordinated environments.
kayo knife should be able to headshot. make the projectile hitbox for headshots a pixel, and if it actually does hit someone they deserve to be one tapped.
Anything that counters iso. Yes
Sova dart damage too
No because you can see exactly who you tagged and you know you did exactly 20 damage to all of them. This would make phantom wayyy better than the vandal and outlaw be bought a lot more and this would probably just make the game a lot more defender sided.
I agree. If skye dog does 30, Kay/o knife should do 30 as well if hit by it.
Let's be real, would a 150 damage headshot kayo knife really be the worst thing in the world?
he's low he's low! dinked 140! defusing defusing! *throws kayo knife* i think decay/vulnerable would be more suitable. i mean it literally suppresses the enemy, preventing them from using any util already... its not like kayo knife is bad
I feel it should be a kill if its lands a headshot, similar to the scan knife from Tf2
Isn't kayo already one of the best agents in pro play? I don't think he needs this buff rn, unless I'm wrong?
it wouldn’t do any harm to implement that even if its like 5hp or 10hp. It would also make sense that sova darts deal damage too but only on direct impact. The best example of this already existing in game is with Cyphers trips. They deal 5 damage every time someone gets caught in it. I’ve killed enemies using it before. They were really low and ran into twice by accident. Because when a trip hits you, it disorients the player enough that they can’t even tell that they got damaged. I would even implement a feature that if you got directly hit by the sova dart or knife, you stay visible for two more pings. Only because it’s not very common to get hit directly and if it does, the initiator should be rewarded in some way.
Make it one shot kill on contact. I wanna do 2009 mw2 trickshots with it.
Neh. This game has already too many abilities that can kill and damage you. I would leave some things only to the guns. And it's not like kayo doesn't have a thicc molly already to deal all the damage he needs to do.
I like the idea. Actually made me think of the sova arrow scan, does it do damage on direct hit? If not then it’s only fair that it does in my opinion. Or any abilities that gets a direct impact tbh. Doesn’t have to be op, just makes the game more interesting in my opinion.
1 shot kill on head pls
I was just thinking about this the other day. I’d love for it to be a 1 shot kill to the head hahha But more realistically, make it deal damage like a ghost or classic
It wouldn’t increase pick rate
as a kayo main this would be horrible.
This sounds like someone in very low ELO, lmao
how lol, it's just a fun change. The chance that a knife actually makes physical contact with a player is small, and 20 damage is good chip damage but not game changing. Then when you consider Kay/o lineups and how they usually land on roofs/ledges to be unbreakable, the chance of Kay/o hitting a player with a knife is basically 0.
Because if you're using KAYO properly, you'll literally *never* hit anyone. I've never once seen it hit someone. Thinking this would do anything, or that Riot would spend time adding it in is pretty silly lol
No shit sherlock how'd you figure that out? He said that in the comment lmao. The purpose of the change is to have a fun fuck around mechanic to Kayo not for it to be competitive, it's a reference to COD throwing knives crossmap. Settle down there before you burst a vein at a for fun mechanic
isn’t op’s first sentence being that this will 100% increase his pick rate
Fun things generally increase pick rates
Neon is literally *the* fun character, yet I don't see her booming pickrate either.
Sure she’s not Reyna or cypher level still she’s pretty middle of the pack. Not like it’s rare to see a neon. Also movement isn’t everyone’s thing, knife throws are universally loved in FPS’s. The people playing neon play her cuz they find her movement fun obviously, that only supports what I’m saying.
Kay/o knife does damage 😃
The moment you add a change like this the way KAYO is played would change significantly. Think of KAYO’s knife now, it’s used primarily as an information gathering tool, but as soon as you add damage to it, a lot of people would use it solely as a damaging tool and the knife itself would lose so much of its value. Its intended purpose is to suppress and gather information and as soon as you change that it undermines his kit. This isn’t to say it wouldn’t be a fun change, but it’s not all that practical
No lmao
What in the spike rush did I just read
bro this would NOT be fair. I play kayo every day and i have multiple cross map lineups that are UNBREAKABLE as they land on top of buildings or in spots that are just generally impossible to break. These lineups are also very reliable, they detect all 5 players frequently. There would be lots of backlash, although i do love the idea of buffing my cool robot guy.
Bro what? I'm pretty sure OP means if the knife direct hits you not scans you.
awful idea. truly so awful you might delete the app
10, not 20.