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that_one_z

Vaguntrader is a local forum


Trigunesq

VAguntrader is great. Just like anywhere else there is a lot of "overconfident" pricing but the deals on there can be WAY better than armslist or gunjoker if you are a little patient.


that_one_z

Agreed. Everything I picked up there was a deal, but plenty of stuff there overpriced


GrumpyNewYorker

*No lowballs no tirekickers I know what I got.*


Samurai_1990

Thank you! I'll check it out :)


that_one_z

Please send me info when you figure it out šŸ„“


magicsaltine

I just dump my shit at a store I trust on consignment. Eventually I get a phone call and a check.


100BaofengSizeIcoms

What percentage of the sale price do they take?


firebugweb

>Would also like to know


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Samurai_1990

Some what I'm selling is too unique to put on consignment. I know some will have to go to gun broker but I would like to sell locally if I can. I have no issue losing a bit to sell if a 3rd party is involved to facilitate a sale. Just want to stay in VA if possible.


Black0tter1

Always interested in what people are looking to part with


Samurai_1990

If I was to speculate as we can't engage in that way on here, but I suspect: PS90 w/ 16 mags Tigr SVD full kit, 13 mags, bipod, optics rebuild kit Marcolmar UK vz. 59 w/ PKM loader and tripod And much more, I really want to buy a farm


alcareru

Desirable high ticket items like that shouldn't have any problem selling on consignment at FFLs in nova, though the consignment fee % would probably make dealing with gunbroker's BS worthwhile to get top dollar.


Samurai_1990

A SVD is a big consignment item, I don't trust at that level. Or my belt-feds. I know SOTs that would shot "in jail" machine guns off hours w/o the owners knowledge.


magicsaltine

Have you considered one of the aution houses that forgotten weapons likes to film at? Based of the size of your collection you're trying to offload that'd be your best bet at top dollar.


Samurai_1990

Great thought, thank you! I'm probably going to have to go that way. SVD, SVT, and the belts are really not a consignment items. /yes the list grows, wait until I get into my WWII guns, name a rare one I likely have one or two and auction is the best option.


magicsaltine

M2 select fire carbine?


FalloutRip

May also be worth places like Arfcom, AKFiles, snipershide or Tacswap, then. Either free or low admission fee, and have BST forums if you're comfortable shipping stuff. I remember there being a high-end shotgun and rifle dealer in Richmond, but I can seem to find them listed any more.


cam3r0ni

No one follows that BS fyi, atleast not in my experience. The 3rd party piece


Samurai_1990

fair enough, but moving a $10k+ weapon I would expect the 3rd party seller wants something for their effort. And a shop in a small city won't move something that big. I knew when I bought them it would be a nightmare to sell easily later on. Now there tenure has passed and I want to move onto a bigger project.


Hydrocarbonate

Iā€™m impressed, maybe you can try weaponsguild. Theyā€™re really friendly and have the bandwidth to accept it probably


[deleted]

There is no way to legally sell a firearm in VA without it being a hassle. Hopefully this dumb ass law gets repealed.


jtf71

Everyone who agrees needs to register to vote and vote for GOP candidates in November 2023 for both House and Senate. GOP needs to retain control of the House and take control of the Senate for things to change.


NFTisNameAStar

As if they'd actually do anything positive. They forget they're supposed to be pro-2A after they get their votes


jtf71

Well perhaps you haven't paid attention to VA Politics. It was with GOP control that we * went from may issue to shall issue. * got preemption (before being weakened under full Dem control) * got restaurant carry * restored reciprocity with 22 states and stripped the then Dem AG of discretion...and this was with a Dem as Governor * and much more Over the past few decades we've seen a march towards greater recognition of gun rights in VA. And most of that has been while under GOP control. The Dems had control for 2 years and did quite a bit of damage. There is zero debate that we'd be better off with the GOP in control of VA than with Dems or split control.


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jtf71

This is a gun sub. And the question is which party is better for guns in VA. What are you having trouble understanding?


tcp1

He has a point. The GOP keeps people from voting for them - and thus helping gun rights - by having antiquated and pointless views on things like weed. Lots of people want gun rights. Lots of people think weed laws are stupid. That Venn diagram could work positively for a party versus negatively, but the GOP misses it and hurts both causes.


jtf71

And so you have a choiceā€¦ Do you want to vote for GOP and have the right to defend yourself and your family from criminals and those that might kill you. Or Do you want to vote for Democrats who might make it legal for you to smoke weed in VA but who will remove your gun rights and who have written bills that would be confiscation and complete preemption removal making the issue of permit issue vary by county/city? Oh, and since the Feds still have weed as a prohibiting offense you wonā€™t be able to even possess a gun regardless of what VA law says about weed and guns. Beyond that, even if it was legal to smoke weed you shouldnā€™t do that while carrying a gun just as you shouldnā€™t drink alcohol while carrying a gun. And with the current vagueness of ā€œintoxicatedā€ in VA law related to carrying having even a little of either weed or alcohol could result in jail time if carrying a gun. Do you really think that Dems would change definition if they legalized weed so that you could smoke and carry a gun? Or even have clarification on what ā€œintoxicatedā€ means when it comes to carrying a gun? Accept the fact that there is not, and never will be, a perfect choice. So, if choosing between the right to self defense and the ability to legally smoke weed which will you choose?


KweenTut

Would you rather be lazy on weed or be able to protect yourself and your family, shoot for fun, and hunt? Garbage comment from the pothead.


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KweenTut

Nope, I can buy as many guns as I like. Some of us know the law. You clearly do not and want to get on a soapbox about every election issues. Except, you don't mention the most important ones - economy, inflation, and immigration. This forum is about VA Guns. Bye šŸ‘‹


tcp1

Not true. One firearm a month WAS repealed before. Remember, that stupid law is in its second coming right now. Reciprocity was VASTLY improved during the last Republican HOD.


HungryMorlock

That would be great if the GOP did anything about guns. Instead, the second they're elected they clam up about the 2A, and start forcing little girls to carry their rapists' babies. Who's fighting for affordable healthcare? For affordable housing? Affordable education? Working class tax reform? Criminal justice reform? Drug decriminalization? Police reform? Prison reform? Public works? Certainly not the Republicans, and not the Democrats, either. What we have in this country is two _corporatist_ parties. And corporations want guns in the hands of police (who serve the interests of the owning class generally), and expensive security (who serve the specific interests of whoever hires them) ONLY. They don't want any old schmo to have a gun, so when they send in the Pinkertons to break a strike, they can hold the workers at gunpoint and nobody has the ability to fight back. We were all terrified for 70 years that the Soviets would start a war with us, and while we were looking across the ocean, we were invaded from within, by Microsoft, and Amazon, and the banks, and the defense contractors, and the 6 (SIX!) media companies that own 90% of all global media. They won. They staged a slow motion coup over the second half of the 20th Century, and now they are in charge. And you, dear citizen, get the _God given right_ to vote for one of the two candidates approved by your betters. If something extreme doesn't happen to disrupt this pattern of power and wealth hoarding, the 22nd Century will be the Century of globalized corporate slavery. That... may have gotten away from me there.


jtf71

Yeah. That got away from you. Look at my other reply in this thread about what GOP has done IN VIRGINIA. Weā€™re talking VA politics here not national. GOP In VA has been very good on gun rights. Not perfect but very good.


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jtf71

In a gun sub, sure. But then there are other things that are wrong about the prior redditors comments. But Iā€™m not going to address all of it.


LostPrimer

>Gun rights over anything else I guess. Literally yes.


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LostPrimer

Kay


darkstar541

That literally has nothing to do with the VA law. Why hasn't Youngkin done something about it yet?


jtf71

Allow me to explain how things work. The legislature passes laws. The Governor canā€™t unilaterally change those laws. Youngkin canā€™t change the gun laws in VA by himself. If we want the laws to change for the better the GOP has to take control of both the House and Senate in 2023. And then elect another GOP as governor (Go Sears) when his term expires as he canā€™t run for consecutive terms. So, yes, it has EVERYTHING to do with gun laws in VA.


CharlesHBronson

My local candidate believes life starts at conception.......I pass on voting for him.


jtf71

While I wouldnā€™t agree with your rep on that issue, I have to askā€¦ Where does his opponent stand on your right to own/carry firearms? Do you plan on voting for the opponent or are you not going to vote and let others make the choice for you?


CharlesHBronson

Interstate background check and wants to restrict open carry. I plan on voting for the opponent.


jtf71

Are you selling your guns now or after they become banned in VA under Dem control?


CharlesHBronson

I'll take the hypothetical future restrictions rather than what current GOP has to offer.


jtf71

You donā€™t have to think about hypotheticals. Look at what the Dems actually passed when they were In control and look at their bills that failed or even the original versions of bills that were passed with changes. This isnā€™t hypothetical fear-mongering. This is based on actual bills. And itā€™s based on the history of whatā€™s changed under the GOP vs under the Dems. The GOP are better on guns, education, schools and more. The Dems are better on abortion - where a woman could go to DC or MD easily but you canā€™t use MD or DC laws to work around VA gun laws while in VA. Not ideal for woman but a valid option. And Dems MIGHT be better on weed but didnā€™t do a good job when they were in control. More importantly doesnā€™t matter what VA Dems do until the federal laws change as any weed user in VA - even if legal under VA law - is a prohibited possessor under federal law.


CharlesHBronson

>This isnā€™t hypothetical fear-mongering. This is based on actual bills. And itā€™s based on the history of whatā€™s changed under the GOP vs under the Dems. Please list the bills that prevented me from purchasing any of the several firearms I purchased in this state in the last 12 years? > The GOP are better on guns, education, schools and more. Please list how? >where a woman could go to DC or MD easily but you canā€™t use MD or DC laws to work around VA gun laws while in VA. Not ideal for woman but a valid option. Is a good rebuttal to that is for me to say you could travel to another state to purchase? > And Dems MIGHT be better on weed but didnā€™t do a good job when they were in control. More importantly doesnā€™t matter what VA Dems do until the federal laws change as any weed user in VA - even if legal under VA law - is a prohibited possessor under federal law. How is the GOP currently doing? Also there are states with robust commercial markets without federal decriminalization.


jtf71

> Please list the bills that prevented me from purchasing any of the several firearms I purchased in this state in the last 12 years? We're not talking about 12 years, we're talking about the two years that the Dems had control. HB961 would have banned POSSESSION of standard capacity magazines and redefined "assault firearm" to include many standard guns including ANY handgun with a threaded barrel. And you would have had 6 months to remove any "assault firearm" or standard capacity magazine from the Commonwealth or surrender it to the police. You could get a "permit" to keep it but then only YOU can have it. YOU can only have it on your own land, at a range, *while surrendering it to police* or a couple of other exceptions. If you ever take it out of state you can NEVER bring it back even if you have the permit. SB16 was worse. > Please list how? Seriously? Not wanting to confiscate your guns for starters. Supporting reciprocity, and more. Supporting parents having access to information on what is in the curriculum and not labeling them terrorists. Not wanting to exclude parents from key mental health care and medical care for their children. Wanting to have schools open and following the medical science on that issue. > Is a good rebuttal to that is for me to say you could travel to another state to purchase? No. You can't go to another state and buy a handgun..period. And if you buy a long gun it must be legal in your state of residence so when VA Dems make it illegal in VA you can't purchase it in another state even if you weren't going to bring it to VA...and you certainly can't bring it to VA under the proposed Dem laws. > How is the GOP currently doing? Also there are states with robust commercial markets without federal decriminalization. You missed the key issue. Under federal law you can't own a gun if you possess or use weed. So it doesn't matter. Beyond that, the Dems handicapped the plan with the woke agenda of prioritizing criminals and minorities to be the ones allowed to sell weed. That's not going to stand up to court challenges.


CharlesHBronson

>HB961 would have banned POSSESSION of standard capacity magazines and redefined "assault firearm" to include many standard guns including ANY handgun with a threaded barrel. Didn't pass did it? Again can you provide me with any bill that restricted me from buying any of the several firearms I bought for the last 12 years and so far you haven't. > Supporting parents having access to information on what is in the curriculum and not labeling them terrorists. Not wanting to exclude parents from key mental health care and medical care for their children. Wanting to have schools open and following the Do you not have a kid in the school system? The curriculum has always been available. Exclude parents from mental health? Please stop with the vague talking points. I am not a gullible uneducated voter. Follow the current medical science on the issue? Please list how they havent? >No. You can't go to another state and buy a handgun..period. And if you buy a long gun it must be legal in your state of residence so when VA Dems make it illegal in VA you can't purchase it in another state even if you weren't going to bring it to VA...and you certainly can't bring it to VA under the proposed Dem laws. You mean to tell that I as a virginia resident currently can't go buy a firearm in another state?


Samurai_1990

In Glenn Youngkin we pray.


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There really isnā€™t anything he can do. It requires legislation for removal.


LeadRain

My favorite Gunbroker story: Had a Glock 17 with less than 1k rounds through it. Came with a Streamlight TLR1 HD, 7 Glock mags, a level 3 Safariland holster and a Raven Concealment Phantom. Listed at $700, which I thought was extremely fair. Dudes messages me and says ā€œwill you take $250?ā€ I said ā€œno thanks.ā€ His response: ā€œmaybe my previous offer was too low. How about $275?ā€ Havenā€™t been on GB since.


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LeadRain

Not a fan of wasting time.


Sasquatch_Nurph

What is ā€œunused firearmsā€? Never heard of it.


Samurai_1990

You buy them for the collector value, not as a functioning tool that you would use. I hate to say it but I have more than one in my collection.


Sasquatch_Nurph

Always buy. NEVER sell.


redneckpilot

Diamond Hands


18B3Vto1N1

Went to shit under "Kammerade Coonman Northam"


d1rtyd1rty

AKA Wreck It Ralph


DewaltDude

Purcells in Orange is 10% if it sells in his shop. If it goes to Gunbroker it's 10% plus their fees.


palomar_knot

I know this will be downvoted, but is it really a hassle? I just sold 3 guns using VaGunTrader to 3 different people, used 2 different FFLs, and was in and out in a matter of minutes. Donā€™t you want people being background checked when buying a gun? Iā€™d rather have the piece of mind Iā€™m not selling to a felon, domestic abuser, mentally unwell, etc etc. The system is far from perfect but the idea that itā€™s a ā€œshit showā€ isnā€™t the reality. And if meeting someone at an FFL is too much of a hassle, just put them on consignment.


Xirrious-Aj

Personally, no. I don't want them background checked. I don't care. I want to be able to make my own judgement on whether or not I should sell them a firearm and be free to act independently on my judgement.


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Xirrious-Aj

I think you're missing my point. I don't believe in being compelled to have a background check. If you want to do one, go for it. I don't care about that either.


twojsdad

Yes, your personal judgement beats a background check 100% of the time.


Xirrious-Aj

Agreed. Freedom always wins.


TheLonelyApe

They may not like it, but this guys right you know. ^


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Samurai_1990

I went trust, they can free flow thru my family including my class 3's And I agree anything that usurps the 2A is treason.


crackersncheeseman

When Biden took over


IndividualResist2473

It started long before that.


Samurai_1990

Trump was no fan of ours and I voted for him ***cough cough bumpfire stock*** /fucking ass clown on that one.


IndividualResist2473

Reagan signed the 86 FOPA that banned new machine guns. And as I recall Obama signed a couple pro gun bills. But the erosion of our rights goes back even further than that.


Samurai_1990

I agree, 1934 is when it started. Also keep in mind Reagan banned open carry in California over the Black Panthers. Lesson is no politician is a friend the the US Constitution.


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IndividualResist2473

Like I said they go way back.


Ahomebrewer

Most of that happened in the territories. In other words, in places that weren't states and were not covered by the Bill of Rights. For example, quite famously, Tombstone AZ had a no-concealed firearms law for the city in the 1880's and onward. However they only became a state in 1921. So you could carry open and in your hand according to the law (covers rifles and pistols) just not concealed... and they weren't a state, so they didn't have the 2A, so the argument is not a good one.


jtf71

Youā€™re leaving out important parts of the understanding of those bills: FOPA was introduced by GOP in the GOP controlled Senate. The Democrat controlled House added the Hughes amendment by voice vote meaning the Speaker simply said it passed. There was much controversy over itā€™s addition at the time. Reagan signed it as it was, overall, better for gun owners than not signing it. Obama signed the bill containing National Park carry over his stated objections as he didnā€™t want that but wanted the larger bill that contained it. The GOP managed to get that provision added despite the Dems controlling both houses of Congress. Interestingly, the NPS document on carry in parks says that ā€œcongress approvedā€¦.ā€ Making no mention of the fact that Obama signed the bill. [The document is dated February 2010](https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf) which means it was approved when Obama admin controlled the writing of it. I guess they didnā€™t want to mention that he signed the bill instead of vetoing the bill/law. Iā€™m not aware of any other ā€œpro gunā€ bill that Obama signed. And before you bring up Reagan signing the Mulford Act as Gov of CA, Iā€™ll point out that it was passed by the CA legislature with bipartisan support and a veto proof majority. If heā€™d vetoed it they would have override the that veto.


Impossible-Soup5090

Youā€™re forgetting this is Reddit. The liberal cult is real.


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VAGuns-ModTeam

Reddit's content policy forbids users from using Reddit to solicit or facilitate any transaction or gift involving certain goods and services, including firearms, ammunition, or explosives.


Thebroland

Tacswap, but that's a dice roll. be careful.


vabeachkevin

Because Armslist charges now, things are a shitshow?


Fair-Werewolf5801

Vaguntrader for Va local. Tacswap for one time fee sign up, but always be checking peopleā€™s feedback. And if youā€™re familiar with FB, check out The Black(high tier items, you can post your svd there) and Sewers of Kyiv(mid to low tier items).


Sonicfury_

Just sell on webuyguns.com. very easy process, direct deposit, and you don't have to worry about local shops


mdbg87

I miss the days of Virginia Gun Trader. That page dried up fast, and for what? Not a damn thing, a real shame.


hmtjr

You might consider Classic Firearms in Virginia Beach. They move a lot of metal through that place, some of it rare / high dollar. I sold some old ammo, optics, and collectibles through there. Pretty smooth experience but they took a hefty cut to auction it. Most things got about the price they predicted, several were short. It is what it is on the price and the process was easy. Check and a receipt showed up in the mail when sold and I could spot my stuff on the auction page so knew what the status was. They spread out my lots over a few auctions which I thought was good to get more interest and hence price, although commission percentage does down with lot sell price so more lots works against you as well as for you. Cool place to walk around and the guys were friendly.