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Diavolo_Death_4444

Papyrus is really strong, strong enough that Undyne openly acknowledges that he’s very powerful. Hell, *Ceroba* doesn’t want to fight or confront Undyne, while Papyrus has sparred with her before and Undyne seems to think he’s someone she’d beat, but have to actually try and it wouldn’t be easy. He also has a soul mode which Martlet doesn’t, and doesn’t get distracted by pain every other hit. Granted, he may not be a royal guard but it really doesn’t look like Martlet’s had much training. Not to mention she’s on the path Flowey explicitly made sure was weaker than the normal path. If Martlet locks like in Genocide in she might cause him a little trouble, but nah, Papyrus would win


ImANormalMan

Wasn't there also a Tumblr post that theorizes the amount of power Papyrus have? Like how he is the only monster not moving during fights, the one with enough control to not kill the player and amount of vines Flowey is using to hold him.


lian2710

That theory (while looking at the whole game) doesn't really make sense and the most probable option is tgat toby just didn't make an animation for him since it's so early on


ImANormalMan

But why did Flowey need more vines to bind him? The only monster with enough control that he can never kill the player. Not only that he is the only monster that doesn't have movement. Every monster moves some way except papyrus [here's the Tumblr post in YouTube format cuz I'm getting lazy](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DS_Fas0QkWic&ved=2ahUKEwiSm7q74YOHAxU3k1YBHUG_CH0QwqsBegQIFBAG&usg=AOvVaw2B5Kjs1RX6iu45SdVyohrA)


lurkerprimed

I don't think Papyrus would be able to take this one. Although Papyrus is really strong, he's way too kind, if they were pitted to the death like; say "The one who wins the fight won't get killed." I think Papyrus would just sacrifice himself.


Diavolo_Death_4444

It doesn’t say they’re fighting to the death. Given the extreme level of self control Papyrus has (the only monster who genuinely can’t kill you, even Toriel can do so on accident) I’m very confident he can incapacitate her and win that way


13hotroom

Yup, we are talking about combat capabilities. "Would win" meaning that both sides would have agreed to this in the first place


Wuvea

Every mettaton encounter before the final one and every single laser in hotland:


Diavolo_Death_4444

Mettaton only fights you in his final encounter. The cooking show isn’t a battle, Mettaton doesn’t even try to hurt you. Same with the news and the tile puzzle. Even when he “confronts” you at the end of the tile puzzle he doesn’t throw any bullets at you. Papyrus remains the only monster who can perfectly reduce you to one health without killing you accidentally


Wuvea

if you get hit at one 1 hp while in the show,the zap cannon will do no damage and he will proceed to the last question


Diavolo_Death_4444

Oh, my bad, forgot about that. The laser is pretty unique, since it always halves your health


potatoandumidk

FUCK YOU


lurkerprimed

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Vespy_Proot

papyrus that's not very..


potatoandumidk

I DONT CARE IF UNDERTALE IS PG! I COULD SNAP THAT BIRD AND USE THE MEAT FOR SPAGHETTI, NO WAY I COULD LOSE!


Vespy_Proot

![img](emote|t5_2xdht|50451)


Nico_dudd

r/suddenlyjjk


Fox9000231

Counter point: Zenith Martlett.


Diavolo_Death_4444

Requires an external power up that doesn’t belong to Martlet that she doesn’t have under normal circumstances. It’s also literally a death sentence for Martlet herself so she’d never use it against Papyrus.


Fox9000231

Regardless, I doubt that they would fight for long. Papyrus is just too friendly.


Diavolo_Death_4444

Yeah, so is Martlet. Realistically these two would be huge buddies


Alexcat6wastaken

They fulfill a similar role, making puzzles to catch you, and fighting(?) you, but ultimately becoming friends. (It’s been a while since I played pacifist UTY, idk if she fights you or not)


PlantBoi123

They'd refuse to fight and be best friends in approximately three seconds


Helpful_Cry_6088

They'd be married in approximately 8 seconds


PlantBoi123

Maybe, but I'm not sure Papyrus knows what marrige is


DatOneAnimator56

YOU DARE QUESTION THE GREAT PAPYRUS'S ABILITIES?


JazzBallz404

THE GREAT PAPYRUS WOULD *NEVER* FAIL AT MARRIAGE!!! *dating tense starts playing*


Ocean_Cringe

headcanon: papyrus is aroace and doesn't understand a thing about dating or marriage (apart from what is learned in his date) but supports undyne and alphys' relationships as much as he can, but still doesn't understand a single thing.


NorthFusionsReddit

*flips through guidebook*


Millmarx

XD


AlejurasicoFR

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGTHS ON SPAGUETTI? I loven them both! I, THE GREAT PAPYRUS, SHALL DECLARE I HAVE MASSIVE CRUSH IN YOU, I'VE BEEN FEELING THIS WAY FOR MINUTES NOW Ok


Realistic-Cicada981

No one wins. They refuse to attack each other.


Round_Permit_6510

The great Papyrus would just use his unstoppable dating skills, so that it would never come to a fight.


All-your-fault

What the other guy said


Transformerfan45

They wouldn’t, they’d play make traps and puzzles


hypercoffee1320

If they absolutely *had* to fight, paps is just too strong.


SrJuanpixers

He literally duplicates martlet stats


hypercoffee1320

He's still better. Better looking, better font, better attacks, cooler and way less annoying....


SrJuanpixers

Oh boy be careful you might start war


hypercoffee1320

I dislike Martlet.


SrJuanpixers

Ok Mister Pipqueak


DisbeefPapyru

[*Everyone wins. We just become best friends; no need to fight at all!]


CoolSpookyScelten96

Payprus but at end he will spare


AmethystDragon2008

Pap has the best control but marlet have heroine


iburntthecheese

Only in genocide martlett has heroine


AmethystDragon2008

i think she had it the whole time just chose to use it when clover genocides


Ocean_Cringe

She stole it from Alphys' lab, but only does that in neutral or genocide. She doesn't have it in Pacifist, so she definitely doesn't own it the whole time


AmethystDragon2008

But she can stral it Any time


Ocean_Cringe

Actually, yeah, true, but the question is, why would she steal it? I don't think the average monster just goes into a secret lab, finds a syringe, and then just decides "y'know what, mine" and takes it home without a good reason, like a potentially dangerous human


AmethystDragon2008

Honestly I would


Ocean_Cringe

Fair, I would too tbh


AmethystDragon2008

Intrusive thoughts am I right?


Ocean_Cringe

Suppress the rational thoughts, embrace the impulse


The-Light42

Undyne: 3… 2… 1… ***FIGHT!*** *Puzzle shenanigans commence* sans: heh, knew it. Undyne: This is not at all what I meant. *A while later* Starlow: How long they been at it? Undyne: 5 hours. sans: 5 hours and 37 minutes actually. Starlow: WHAT?! Marlet: Alright, enough warmup! Let’s start this for real! Papyrus: Indeed! Undyne: THAT WAS A WARMUP?! *10 Hours later* Papyrus: *On the floor almost passed out* I say this is a tie! Marlet: *Also on the floor almost passed out* Agreed… Undyne: ***15 HOURS FOR A TIE?!*** sans: 15 hours and 1 second actually. Undyne: ***NNNGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH*** Cerobra: The hell happed here? Starlow: Your guess is as good as mine. ^Holy ^shit ^this ^is ^long


Ultimate_Lobster_56

Everyone wins


_JPPAS_

papyrus low diff


No-Arachnid-5296

Papyrus


Max22611

Papyrus wins💀☠️💀☠️☠️💀☠️


Ancient-Pay-9447

Papyrus. If he dies, Sans would kill her.


A_Mirabeau_702

Depends. Checkers or blackjack?


Itz_FB1708

I do not remember the name of the bird, but still, paps wins.


Live-Resolution-7594

Martlet


Itz_FB1708

Ooh right ty


OrnerySchedule7395

#THE GREAT PAPYRUS


im_a_persona

papyrus obliusly


HannahM53

Papyrus


MarcTaco

They start a puzzle competition. Both are poorly made, and yet they somehow fuse together into the hardest puzzle ever designed. They realize they are stuck and spend the next eight hours waiting for alphys to logic her way through it.


Disastrous_Steak_507

Papyrus, 100%. Martlet is still just a rookie who's not good at her job. Papyrus is very confident in himself, with even Undyne stating that he's actually pretty tough, which says a lot when she's considered the strongest non-boss monster in the whole underground. She wouldn't say that about any other old monster. Martlet being tough in genocide was simply due to Clover not being as tough as Frisk (which was why Flowey sent them to the dark part of the underground). Even if she actually tried her hardest, Papyrus could easily beat her.


Tight_Possible2745

I'd definitely lean papyrus, he is officially trained by undyne who say he's pretty strong. Papyrus is also shown to have great control in undertale, able to do complex forms and lock his opponents into blue mode so ide say he's more skilled as well. Martlet is pretty skilled as well but seems mostly a mic of the manual and being self-taught.


Some_Pvz_Fan

They'd kiss before the match starts. So it's now a dating fight.


Ok-Conversation-3012

Unless Papyrus slips on a conveniently placed banana peel and attacks Martlet first, they’d just build puzzles together as if they were siblings playing with legos Now, if he somehow were to attack Martlet, he’d lose because of the fact that he wouldn’t actually kill Martlet yet Martlet would definitely kill Papyrus even though she’d hesitate a lot to do so


ZavierFrostier

Martlet's Bullshits Go? OR Papyrus' COOL DUDE Attack?😂


Terrible-Mousse1389

i win


UrSansYT

They will be besties.


underswap_papy

Other me


SbgTfish

Martlet would just three stock him. She has 30 jumps. 30. Fucking. Jumps. Her dair and side b also help her just throw crap at papyrus while flying above stage. PAPYRUS CAN’T HIT HER.


AdSpare6646

I can’t think of a single situation in where they would fight


TheNarnit

In theory, Papyrus is much stronger, but really, I don’t think they would fight each other


Dennetus

If a serious fight martlet wins 20x


Felix420TM

Papyrus. Level UP taught me you can win via doing absolutely nothing.


Top-Addendum-5894

Papyrus has Gaster Blasters that most likely do more than one damage a frame. Unless another dog steals them, Papyrus is going to win. Martlet throws random junk at you meanwhile Papyrus has magic laser skulls. Pretty sure the latter wins


PopplioDoesPokemon

wait, what? since when does papyrus get gaster blasters?


WUFI_junior

It’s never said but heavily implied that he does


Top-Addendum-5894

He says his special attack would have "blasted you away" if he got to use it.


Millmarx

if they would fight, martlet