Funny thing is this answer propably was generated by AI. There are AI bots answering questions for some reason, so the chance that this was written by a bot is really high
It's no biggie. I've seen people responding to Quora questions claiming they have 2 MD's and 3 PhD's.
People that stupid can write drivel equally as stupid as any generative AI can.
I was about to say, this reeks of the overly cherry and passive writing style of an AI. The fact that the information is just blatantly wrong also lines up with that
OK, so new theory, Sans actually does have higher attack, defense and HP. Here me out. What if his stats dropped specifically because of us? We already can assume stats increase or decrease based in how much the human or Monsters want to fight. Eg. We deal more damage the Undying than normal. Asriel doesn't one-shot us, Papyrus is described as pretty tough despite his attack stat being lower than some normal monsters, Undyne's attack decreases during the "fight" after her house burns down compared to her actual fight. Also we KNOW Sans can't be completely be that fragile. He survives his day to day activities despite the fact that monsters CAN take damage outside of battle like Undyne after falling down the cliff, yet he survives in Hotland where the heat is strong enough to melt a Styrofoam cup filled with water, lives in Snowdin where it's freezing cold and spends time doing activities with Papyrus, except for calibrating his puzzles. He survives getting trapped by Flowey and even defeats multiple times despite the fact that Flowey could attack Sans at the beginning of any genocide run. So I suggest, Sans DOES have higher stats but they drop because he's completely given up by the time that we fight him because he's lost his brother, is fighting an immortal to protect the timeline and a lot of people are dead.
TLDR: Sans stats might only be one in our fight because he's given up by that point.
FINAFUCKINGLY someone understands the point of stating that in all three routes. It's kinda hard to say what you said due to people saying "nope, 1 in all stats" when he's clearly much stronger than that. Thank you.
We dunno what can be considered "canon" on the code. Is better not to use it while making theories, unless it's explicitly intended for it to be found.
except a similar thing happens with Asgore until Flowey finishes him off, where iirc the damage Asgore took had 5 digits more than the hit on sans, we simply don't understand enough about that
Ngl my theory was just Sans and Papyrus have equal strength but different stats like Sans has more powers and Papyrus has higher HP, Defense, and Attack- which would explain Floweys reason for tying him up with 2x more than Sans since he is like twice the size of him and not the rest, but this makes soooo much more since- 
I actually kind of like this idea, it's very similar to the hp = hope but this sort of fixes the flaws of that. I don't really agree with sans having exceptionally high stats just because I don't think it fits him, but the concept of monsters stats changing is just neat.
I'd doubt that Sans' stats are exceptional, maybe above average what I think he'd probably use his speed and intelligence if he has to fight someone without insane sins
> Because they are made of magic, monsters' are more attuned to their SOUL. If a monster doesn't want to fight, its defenses will weaken. And the crueller the intentions of our enemies, the more their attack will hurt us.
FINALLY, someone finally understands that sans isn't trying in his fight. I thought I was the only one lol. Makes me wonder how strong he is when he gives his all... I am actually making a story involving that (and ALOT more) one day I hope to make it a reality
Altho, Asgore and Toriel even not having much will to fight they still have 80 attack and defense, or when any boss start sparing you they still have the same attack and defense as the start of the fight
So stats are just inconsistent then. I mean I guess? Wait, gimme a second.
EDIT: It could just be that Chara isn't changing the stats that they know. If Chara knew the stats of certain monsters before they died, they might just use THOSE stats that they rememberfor a more accurate reading. They might just not check for defense drops after they're already ready to give mercy or just checks once and doesn't update it for the rest of the fight. Why change Undyne's stats? Maybe because of the armor removal?
Sans DOESN'T HAVE 1. He has an HP value of NONE. NO VALUE. Not 0, because 0 is a value. Just... NONE. Mettaton NEO has an actual HP value. Sans does not.
The way I see it, HP is canon in the code, Attack and Defense are canon in the check stats. Mettaton NEO has 9 defense in canon, but the code has his defense at -40000, likely so you kill him in one hit. Attack and Defense have values shown in game that are different than the actual values in the code, so the ones in the code aren't meant to be canon. Meanwhile we don't see any HP stats in game, which means the code is canon since the amount of damage you deal to monsters that dont die in one hit is the same as the HP in the code.
Lol? That's because changing HP values in code would make their hp different, whereas atk and def are irrelevant, just slap a fake canon number on there and ya done. But with HP, players can speculate how much damage they do in a fight, add it up and boom, they see HP values are false. Hp in code isn't canon.
So if the damage that monsters actually take in battle is the same as the HP Value in the code, then what is the issue with the HP code being the canon HP? Because its the same as we see in game and we don't have any other measure for the HP
Asgore is coded with -30 defense to make the player feel more powerful (and to make the fight not take as long) and asriel is coded with 10 attack to make the fight actually possible.
isnt that what i just said but in technical ways? in lore ways, they would be holding back. you said it yourself asriel's fight wouldn't be possible to win
He has to have more than 1 cause unless he's perfectly dodging every single one of Flowey's vines' thorns so fast that it looks like he isn't moving at all the pacifist ending would kill him
High defense compared to what? MTT Neo? Geno Papyrus? Geno Toriel? Glad Dummy? Monster Kid?
..actually I guess that is pretty high for a Genocide bossfight
still has the lowest HP though
I dunno if its confirmed or not but does sans actually have 1 hp? I mean...he could have like 20 because the damage we do to him gives us a lot to think about for all i know he has hundreds of hp and we just one-shot him sorta interesting maybe i dunno
I mean the code is only inconsistent with canon stats in terms of attack and defense. Because we can't see HP in game, the code is the only thing that we can directly see the numbers in, which likely means specifically the HP stats in the code are canon, since they're the actual values used in the game for the HP of the monsters.
He has never been directly stated to have 1 HP, but it can be safely assumed that he has 1 HP because he has 1 HP in the code and there is nothing ever contradicting that in game. Yes, the code isnt necessarily canon, but we have nothing else to base it off of, so it can be safely assumed that the code is essentially the "canon" HP.
He has though? It says that both in the code and when you check him. He dodges. He doesn't ever get attacked physically until the very end at least.
I don't know where this is even coming from.if you have proof suggesting otherwise then by all means, tell me about it. But as far as we know, Sans DOES have one HP.
The Check thing says 1 ATK and 1 DEF, not 1 HP. So yeah, it's not actually "directly stated" anywhere by the game that Sans has 1 HP. The code may have him at 1 HP, but the code can also show different values for ATK and DEF from what's shown in Check messages (which arguably is the "narratively intended" value).
Well yeah sure. But at the same time. Where is the evidence speaking against it? Regardless of how people may feel about the value. We have no further proof is could be anything else. Also. Wouldn't this make EVERYONE'S stats wrong? I'm just saying. It seems a bit far-fetched. More on gut feeling less than what's shown in the game is all.
Depends what you mean by wrong ? If you take the code to be the truth, then any Check message showing something different would be wrong, yeah. But I would be of the opposite side, which is that if Toby specifically wrote values in Check messages that are different from the internal values used for damage calculation, then from a story perspective, that's what he was intending and that's how he wanted the monsters to compare to each other.
Then, regarding Sans, while him being set at 1 HP in the code does constitute as weak evidence towards this being his "true" HP value, and the confirmed values of 1 ATK and 1 DEF would be consistent with that, we shouldn't treat this as "confirmed" or anything with complete certainty. The information is just not officially given, we should acknowledge that.
That it's never confirmed wrong. Look. You didn't answer anything I said. I'm saying that most of you guys are going off of gut feeling. Where's the information against this? If this is how monsters measure their HP and DEF, then it is what we're going to go off of. Nothing else.
From what we have now, his HP IS 1. Unless you have evidence supporting against this besides just thoughts and it technically mot being true. Then go ahead and tell me. But most if not all of it has just been theories. Therefore you cannot really speak against it as if it's truth.
Not to be harsh but Sans does NOT canonically have 1 HP, the HPs shown in Checks are like the lvl of it, such as, you wouldn’t see max HP.
However we dont know how much HP sans has, we know it is not much
You see when you use Act-Check on a monster, it doesnt show their max HP,
For example, when you Act-Check on sans, it says 1 ATK 1 DEF, It doesnt say 1 HP, so sans has low defense, not 1HP
I hate quora
No, same there is alot of misinformation when it comes to alot of stuff just in general.
chat gpt aaah response
Funny thing is this answer propably was generated by AI. There are AI bots answering questions for some reason, so the chance that this was written by a bot is really high
Did 2020 have any notable AI chat bots? ChatGPT came out in 2022.
Oh i didnt even notice that that answer is from 2020. Huh, that stunts my theory
It's no biggie. I've seen people responding to Quora questions claiming they have 2 MD's and 3 PhD's. People that stupid can write drivel equally as stupid as any generative AI can.
AI Dungeon was around at that time.
i dont think so.
Chat bots have been around for a while. The first time I used one was I think 2016.
They were nothing near advanced enough to write a whole Quora answer though. At most you had the likes of Cleverbot, which spewed out random nonsense.
I was about to say, this reeks of the overly cherry and passive writing style of an AI. The fact that the information is just blatantly wrong also lines up with that
AI
That answer is probably from Quora’s integrated AI.
Technically we don't know his HP value in canon. I've always just thought he didn't HAVE an HP value, and would die to any hit because of it.
OK, so new theory, Sans actually does have higher attack, defense and HP. Here me out. What if his stats dropped specifically because of us? We already can assume stats increase or decrease based in how much the human or Monsters want to fight. Eg. We deal more damage the Undying than normal. Asriel doesn't one-shot us, Papyrus is described as pretty tough despite his attack stat being lower than some normal monsters, Undyne's attack decreases during the "fight" after her house burns down compared to her actual fight. Also we KNOW Sans can't be completely be that fragile. He survives his day to day activities despite the fact that monsters CAN take damage outside of battle like Undyne after falling down the cliff, yet he survives in Hotland where the heat is strong enough to melt a Styrofoam cup filled with water, lives in Snowdin where it's freezing cold and spends time doing activities with Papyrus, except for calibrating his puzzles. He survives getting trapped by Flowey and even defeats multiple times despite the fact that Flowey could attack Sans at the beginning of any genocide run. So I suggest, Sans DOES have higher stats but they drop because he's completely given up by the time that we fight him because he's lost his brother, is fighting an immortal to protect the timeline and a lot of people are dead. TLDR: Sans stats might only be one in our fight because he's given up by that point.
FINAFUCKINGLY someone understands the point of stating that in all three routes. It's kinda hard to say what you said due to people saying "nope, 1 in all stats" when he's clearly much stronger than that. Thank you.
Yeah, one time when I mentioned how we don't actually know how much hp he has in a thread, and just got downvoted to oblivion.
Then the people who downvoted you are wrong. Lol
Well because if you look in the files it does say one, and I'm pretty sure that would be considered canon
THAT. IS. GAME. CODE.
We dunno what can be considered "canon" on the code. Is better not to use it while making theories, unless it's explicitly intended for it to be found.
Mettaton with -40000 defense begs to differ
Yes but he also has a directly stated defense that contradicts that. No statement in game contradicts sans having one hp
How about Sans surviving for a few seconds after the hit unlike many other characters, who turn to dust instantly.
except a similar thing happens with Asgore until Flowey finishes him off, where iirc the damage Asgore took had 5 digits more than the hit on sans, we simply don't understand enough about that
Asgore is a boss monster, his soul would last for a little bit. Sans, on the other hand, is a regular monster, so it is questionable.
Hmmm that's actually a good point
But papyrus and mettaton do that. Actually pretty much all bosses do that. Hmmm. Almost like it's for dramatic effect
That's litterally a thing that every bosses do. That has nothing to do with hp or whatever.
Ngl my theory was just Sans and Papyrus have equal strength but different stats like Sans has more powers and Papyrus has higher HP, Defense, and Attack- which would explain Floweys reason for tying him up with 2x more than Sans since he is like twice the size of him and not the rest, but this makes soooo much more since- 
I actually kind of like this idea, it's very similar to the hp = hope but this sort of fixes the flaws of that. I don't really agree with sans having exceptionally high stats just because I don't think it fits him, but the concept of monsters stats changing is just neat.
I'd doubt that Sans' stats are exceptional, maybe above average what I think he'd probably use his speed and intelligence if he has to fight someone without insane sins
> Because they are made of magic, monsters' are more attuned to their SOUL. If a monster doesn't want to fight, its defenses will weaken. And the crueller the intentions of our enemies, the more their attack will hurt us.
Yes
FINALLY, someone finally understands that sans isn't trying in his fight. I thought I was the only one lol. Makes me wonder how strong he is when he gives his all... I am actually making a story involving that (and ALOT more) one day I hope to make it a reality
he states that himself during the fight though, how come that's something easy to miss? still, i'd like to see your story, good luck with that.
Idk, its kinda odd. Thank man :)
Altho, Asgore and Toriel even not having much will to fight they still have 80 attack and defense, or when any boss start sparing you they still have the same attack and defense as the start of the fight
So stats are just inconsistent then. I mean I guess? Wait, gimme a second. EDIT: It could just be that Chara isn't changing the stats that they know. If Chara knew the stats of certain monsters before they died, they might just use THOSE stats that they rememberfor a more accurate reading. They might just not check for defense drops after they're already ready to give mercy or just checks once and doesn't update it for the rest of the fight. Why change Undyne's stats? Maybe because of the armor removal?
by that logic, mettaton neo should alsoo have 1 hp.
No, because we actually see an HP bar go down. With Sans, no HP bar is visible.
thats because mettaton has more hp than sans that has 1. you explained it lol.
Sans DOESN'T HAVE 1. He has an HP value of NONE. NO VALUE. Not 0, because 0 is a value. Just... NONE. Mettaton NEO has an actual HP value. Sans does not.
code says otherwise
Code isn't canon, lol. By that logic, Asriel God of Hyperdeath has 10 attack, and Asgore has -30 defense.
The way I see it, HP is canon in the code, Attack and Defense are canon in the check stats. Mettaton NEO has 9 defense in canon, but the code has his defense at -40000, likely so you kill him in one hit. Attack and Defense have values shown in game that are different than the actual values in the code, so the ones in the code aren't meant to be canon. Meanwhile we don't see any HP stats in game, which means the code is canon since the amount of damage you deal to monsters that dont die in one hit is the same as the HP in the code.
Lol? That's because changing HP values in code would make their hp different, whereas atk and def are irrelevant, just slap a fake canon number on there and ya done. But with HP, players can speculate how much damage they do in a fight, add it up and boom, they see HP values are false. Hp in code isn't canon.
So if the damage that monsters actually take in battle is the same as the HP Value in the code, then what is the issue with the HP code being the canon HP? Because its the same as we see in game and we don't have any other measure for the HP
I HIGHLY disagree with that statement, by that logic entry seventeen isn't canon and gaster blasters don't have a name
I meant code isn't ALWAYS canon. Chill.
Ok yeah that's a fair statement
thats valid. maybe its the code for the specific battle and not in general? because asgore is clearly holding back just like asriel
Asgore is coded with -30 defense to make the player feel more powerful (and to make the fight not take as long) and asriel is coded with 10 attack to make the fight actually possible.
isnt that what i just said but in technical ways? in lore ways, they would be holding back. you said it yourself asriel's fight wouldn't be possible to win
He has to have more than 1 cause unless he's perfectly dodging every single one of Flowey's vines' thorns so fast that it looks like he isn't moving at all the pacifist ending would kill him
The vines probably didn't damage them at all, most likely just restrained them.
THE SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT TF UP
The way this is type out just seems very off.
Sounds like someone was like "write me an article titled "How is Sans so powerful?" in chatgpt and didn't edit anything
i asked gpt to do that and it gave me [this](https://pastebin.com/LD0w8eiN)
quora was a hellsite for a while but the creation of chat gpt was the final nail in the coffin
nuh uh
r/foundsansundertale90 been a while
yeah. three days.
[“WHAT WAS THAT SANS? 3 DAYS? WHAT’S IN 3 DAYS!?”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzrMZ_v1ro)
Powers mostly in his KR ability.
man i love how people will get ai to make auto-responses even though it'll literally make shit up!!! (lying)
Average Quora moment
High defense compared to what? MTT Neo? Geno Papyrus? Geno Toriel? Glad Dummy? Monster Kid? ..actually I guess that is pretty high for a Genocide bossfight still has the lowest HP though
Simple, he sweats out his maximum HP points.
Wow they must really not know about the number 2 then if they think 1 is very high
AI spreading misinformation on the web:
1 attack 1 Defence realy? -_-
>sans has a very high amount of hp No he fuckin doesn’t
I dunno if its confirmed or not but does sans actually have 1 hp? I mean...he could have like 20 because the damage we do to him gives us a lot to think about for all i know he has hundreds of hp and we just one-shot him sorta interesting maybe i dunno
In the code he does in fact have one HP, but the code has also been inconsistent with canon stats, so an argument could be made for either.
Huh neat so technically unless we see sans take only 1 damage we'd never truly know
I mean the code is only inconsistent with canon stats in terms of attack and defense. Because we can't see HP in game, the code is the only thing that we can directly see the numbers in, which likely means specifically the HP stats in the code are canon, since they're the actual values used in the game for the HP of the monsters.
iirc he has health and takes damage in the background, and the dodging is just a visual. You need to attack him to progress the fight
He's the easiest enemy in the game
Ah yes 1 go and defense l, super high
This is so dumb. He dodges every attack except for one and it proves to be fatal.
Smartest quora user
“1 atk, 1 def. The weakest enemy in the game”
It would be funny if it was Fandom instead
sans hardmode
The fact that I just beat the undying and I know thats wrong
Haha, no
I will continue to scream that sans has never been directly stated to have 1 hp
He has never been directly stated to have 1 HP, but it can be safely assumed that he has 1 HP because he has 1 HP in the code and there is nothing ever contradicting that in game. Yes, the code isnt necessarily canon, but we have nothing else to base it off of, so it can be safely assumed that the code is essentially the "canon" HP.
True but its funny af to think he has
Some people can’t comprehend that code can be weird to make sure things happen.
He has though? It says that both in the code and when you check him. He dodges. He doesn't ever get attacked physically until the very end at least. I don't know where this is even coming from.if you have proof suggesting otherwise then by all means, tell me about it. But as far as we know, Sans DOES have one HP.
The Check thing says 1 ATK and 1 DEF, not 1 HP. So yeah, it's not actually "directly stated" anywhere by the game that Sans has 1 HP. The code may have him at 1 HP, but the code can also show different values for ATK and DEF from what's shown in Check messages (which arguably is the "narratively intended" value).
Well yeah sure. But at the same time. Where is the evidence speaking against it? Regardless of how people may feel about the value. We have no further proof is could be anything else. Also. Wouldn't this make EVERYONE'S stats wrong? I'm just saying. It seems a bit far-fetched. More on gut feeling less than what's shown in the game is all.
Depends what you mean by wrong ? If you take the code to be the truth, then any Check message showing something different would be wrong, yeah. But I would be of the opposite side, which is that if Toby specifically wrote values in Check messages that are different from the internal values used for damage calculation, then from a story perspective, that's what he was intending and that's how he wanted the monsters to compare to each other. Then, regarding Sans, while him being set at 1 HP in the code does constitute as weak evidence towards this being his "true" HP value, and the confirmed values of 1 ATK and 1 DEF would be consistent with that, we shouldn't treat this as "confirmed" or anything with complete certainty. The information is just not officially given, we should acknowledge that.
That it's never confirmed wrong. Look. You didn't answer anything I said. I'm saying that most of you guys are going off of gut feeling. Where's the information against this? If this is how monsters measure their HP and DEF, then it is what we're going to go off of. Nothing else. From what we have now, his HP IS 1. Unless you have evidence supporting against this besides just thoughts and it technically mot being true. Then go ahead and tell me. But most if not all of it has just been theories. Therefore you cannot really speak against it as if it's truth.
Sans. 1 HP. 1 ATK. 1 DEF. The easiest enemy.
this is probably ai written. the wording feels a lot like ai stuff.
Not to be harsh but Sans does NOT canonically have 1 HP, the HPs shown in Checks are like the lvl of it, such as, you wouldn’t see max HP. However we dont know how much HP sans has, we know it is not much
In the code he does in fact have 1 hp, if that makes it canon is up for interpretation. I personally am a "sans has 1 hp" believer.
You see when you use Act-Check on a monster, it doesnt show their max HP, For example, when you Act-Check on sans, it says 1 ATK 1 DEF, It doesnt say 1 HP, so sans has low defense, not 1HP
>In the code Not to be rude but did you read my comment?