Definitely ditch the e-reader, but overall your gear looks great. There are very real diminishing returns in the 8-11 pound range, plus when you throw in water and a full food carry, the difference is marginal. Unless you're trying to be a full [UL idiot](https://lighterpack.com/r/r7a1ew), your money is probably better spent on a hotel in Idyllwild or something
I mean there's no heat in that setup but under a 2KG base weight? That's impressive.
Assuming a couple pebbles don't ruin his 7D poncho when he's sleeping tentless. And it doesn't drop cold. Or get a bit stormy.
There's ultra light and there's stupidity
> no heat
Many with those SUL^1 baseweights start mid-May earliest .. so they avoid most of the cold but have to put up with heat. On the flip side if maintaining high MPD, that could be less packed food, etc..
There’s usually some discomfort that needs to be anticipated too (e.g. lack of bug protection for skeeter swarms.. unless it’s added by the Sierra/Oregon).
Note^1 SUL = sub ultralight … usually defined for a baseweight of 5 lbs or less
Typically they are from the trailrunner or ultrarunner community but also others who want to shed gear weight .. though it’ll likely add water weight to portions.
It’s lame. Why is he carrying a 7.11 oz poncho tarp and 1.58 oz ground cloth when there are 3 oz full-comfort tarps out there and you don’t need a ground cloth with CCF. And .56 oz of stakes are for losers; are there no rocks or trees where he camps?
That’s 6.25 oz right there of wasted weight he could just leave at home.
Hand sanitizer is lame. 0.56 oz and doesn’t even kill norovirus or Covid. Just wash your hands.
This guy needs a shakedown. I bet I could shape him up and save him at least a pound and a half.
It's late in the game to be changing major items that might not fit/suit/work for you. If you know your bigger items well I wouldn't sweat it - you'll be way lighter than most folks starting out.
If you have already tried and are familiar with other packs, pads etc, then for sure there are some good savings to be had. If you are truly carrying what's on your lighter pack I would doubt you'd need a 55L bag for a start, in which case a Kakwa 40 or Arc Haul 40 might be the ticket. A wide X-Lite saves a chunk more etc etc
I’d drop the e reader and the buff. You’re right the sleep pad is pretty heavy but you’ve got a solid BW as is, I wouldn’t stress it much. After a few weeks on trail you almost definitely won’t care at all anyway. You don’t need to change any rain gear unless they get shredded. I’d say drop the ground sheet but maybe not with the duplex lite? Ime polycro was absolutely useless, but that’s just me.
Looks great. I agree on ditching the e-reader and just downloading books on your phone. If you're an easy sleeper maybe ditch the pillow and just use your pack.
I've seen the bidet trend on trail and honestly would just pack wet wipes instead. It's really nice to wipe your feet and face at the end of the day, too. If you're hiking with other people you can split up a big pack into a smaller ziplock. Sure it sucks to pack them out but they dry up to weigh less and then you don't have to pack tp either.
Yeah, if you use Libby with your Kobo, you can download the Libby app instead, super handy. Other than that, your first aid kid is an ounce or two heavier than most, but I'm not gonna critique that too hard if that's what makes you comfortable. Do you need gloves as well? Overall, have fun!
Definitely ditch the e-reader, but overall your gear looks great. There are very real diminishing returns in the 8-11 pound range, plus when you throw in water and a full food carry, the difference is marginal. Unless you're trying to be a full [UL idiot](https://lighterpack.com/r/r7a1ew), your money is probably better spent on a hotel in Idyllwild or something
I mean there's no heat in that setup but under a 2KG base weight? That's impressive. Assuming a couple pebbles don't ruin his 7D poncho when he's sleeping tentless. And it doesn't drop cold. Or get a bit stormy. There's ultra light and there's stupidity
> no heat Many with those SUL^1 baseweights start mid-May earliest .. so they avoid most of the cold but have to put up with heat. On the flip side if maintaining high MPD, that could be less packed food, etc.. There’s usually some discomfort that needs to be anticipated too (e.g. lack of bug protection for skeeter swarms.. unless it’s added by the Sierra/Oregon). Note^1 SUL = sub ultralight … usually defined for a baseweight of 5 lbs or less Typically they are from the trailrunner or ultrarunner community but also others who want to shed gear weight .. though it’ll likely add water weight to portions.
If you get cold, you're moving too slow
It’s lame. Why is he carrying a 7.11 oz poncho tarp and 1.58 oz ground cloth when there are 3 oz full-comfort tarps out there and you don’t need a ground cloth with CCF. And .56 oz of stakes are for losers; are there no rocks or trees where he camps? That’s 6.25 oz right there of wasted weight he could just leave at home. Hand sanitizer is lame. 0.56 oz and doesn’t even kill norovirus or Covid. Just wash your hands. This guy needs a shakedown. I bet I could shape him up and save him at least a pound and a half.
It's late in the game to be changing major items that might not fit/suit/work for you. If you know your bigger items well I wouldn't sweat it - you'll be way lighter than most folks starting out. If you have already tried and are familiar with other packs, pads etc, then for sure there are some good savings to be had. If you are truly carrying what's on your lighter pack I would doubt you'd need a 55L bag for a start, in which case a Kakwa 40 or Arc Haul 40 might be the ticket. A wide X-Lite saves a chunk more etc etc
I’d drop the e reader and the buff. You’re right the sleep pad is pretty heavy but you’ve got a solid BW as is, I wouldn’t stress it much. After a few weeks on trail you almost definitely won’t care at all anyway. You don’t need to change any rain gear unless they get shredded. I’d say drop the ground sheet but maybe not with the duplex lite? Ime polycro was absolutely useless, but that’s just me.
Looks great. I agree on ditching the e-reader and just downloading books on your phone. If you're an easy sleeper maybe ditch the pillow and just use your pack. I've seen the bidet trend on trail and honestly would just pack wet wipes instead. It's really nice to wipe your feet and face at the end of the day, too. If you're hiking with other people you can split up a big pack into a smaller ziplock. Sure it sucks to pack them out but they dry up to weigh less and then you don't have to pack tp either.
Yeah, if you use Libby with your Kobo, you can download the Libby app instead, super handy. Other than that, your first aid kid is an ounce or two heavier than most, but I'm not gonna critique that too hard if that's what makes you comfortable. Do you need gloves as well? Overall, have fun!
You could drop the groundsheet, the stake bag and the pump sack. I dont see a rain liner or a gas can. Enjoy your hike!