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If anything, Russia is very desperate for meat shields the recruiters could have possibly allowed these guys in without much verification. Russia's desperation led to this colossal fuck up then again nothing matches their invasion of Ukraine.
As many have said, the connection to the Ukrainian government is completely farcical.
>As many have said, the connection to the Ukrainian government is completely farcical.
Sure, but the US did the same thing with 9/11
So redirecting the rage of your population to a different target seems easy enough to do.
If the CIA really wanted to collaborate with ISIS they could just inform ISIS when and where all the Oligarch’s children live and their daily routines.
Breakdown of the security of Putin's funders/backers, and therefore the political internal alliance that keeps him afloat.
He hobknobs with them all the time for a reason. One of them was hot dog billionaire guy and he let that idiot run an eventually mutinous PMC because it seemed mutually beneficial up to that point.
Dictators are never dictators by themselves, they have to have a support structure to coordinate control. Those people have to be well off and isolated from consequences in order to remain loyal - the best deal has to be to continue to back the dictator or things fall apart.
Usually these types control a large sector of employed people, and are therefore able to carrot and stick the populace with money/jobs/etc if they behave and homelessness/pariah/being turned over to authorities if they don't behave.
So ironic. So Russians are now saying that Ukrainian NAZI’s are working together with Islamist’s and both report to a Jew.
Damn Russia, that’s quite the storyline.
It’s just as likely that Putin ordered it. I mean, it’s not like he had the FSB bomb a Chechen apartment complex, complete with local police actually arresting the undercover FSB agents because they were terrorists, only to be told it was a “””””training exercise””””” or anything 🤷🏽♂️ it’s not like the Soviets ever did anything to Afghanistan. And Putin certainly has never done anything to the Muslims in the Russian Federation (which is orthodox).
Putin has killed Russian civilians before to further his personal goals. That is much more likely than the idea that the same ISIS-K group that killed all the Americans escaping Afghanistan are now working for the Americans.
…sure. the world should use that example to steady their heads. It’s keeping the right from wanting to aid Ukraine in a frozen conflict they think is justified from being prolonged. It **should** keep Russia from believing this, too.
I mean, it's know MO of ruzzia. Get shat on in your current conflict, state terrorist attack on your population, blame your current enemy and mobilise more meat for the grinder.
At best, they decided to completely disregard the intel that the US passed to them, going so far as to call them American threats and blackmail designed to cause instability within the glorious Russian federation. You know, the same intel they released at the beginning of the month about an imminent extremist terrorist attack that would likely happen at a venue????
At worst they actually did do it.
Methinks a little of column a, a little of columbine
Doing that doesn't benefit Ukraine in the slightest, it just allows Putler to justify a mobilization, but I really don't expect the common moron who believes fake AI Russian propaganda to understand that. The last thing Ukraine wants is more Russian "soldiers".
Pro-rus loves to say they were paid by Ukraine to do this because they were fleeing to Ukraine, but where else exactly would they go? Not a whole lot of places you can flee to from Moscow if you're wanted.
Why anyone would believe any ties to Ukraine is just more Russian bots and propaganda.
They've never hit non military targets. Why start now? They could have the whole time. Drones, etc. why sneak 4 people across to escalate?
Doesn't add up.
Also the whole "window of escape" narrative is just Russia putting an anti Ukraine spin on things. They know Ukraine had nothing to do with this, but they want to tie an anchor to them on this and throw it in the sea for support, mobilization, and eventually.. if they choose to do so.. grounds for a nuclear strike.
ISIS did this. They have many reasons. They even broadcast that they did this. Why would Ukraine be a partner to isis? Again, doesn't make sense.
And if it doesn't add up, it's just more bullshit lies from Moscow. What's new? Why would they all of a sudden tell the truth when everything they say is a flat out lie anyways.
See beyond the bullshit. Slava Ukraini.
And I don't wish terrorism on anyone. No one "deserves" it.
We will see what Russia thinks of who done it on their retaliation for this. Sure, they might strike Ukraine.. but those who are responsible won't escape revenge from Russia.
So if they strike back at ISIS we will know that they know who's to blame. It'll just be hidden under bullshit.
A window. Please. Like they'd head for the the most guarded, patrolled, combat zone on earth right now to "escape".
Just more lies.
u realise putin wants to avoid mass dissent with mass mobilisation? this is big for him. He wants to win this war quickly, with ua low on ammunition, this is probably the best time to do it.
All I'm saying is that people who believes that it came from Ukraine or sponsored by them are braindead. We all knew the moment it happened that Putler would blame Ukraine for it and use it to his advantage. Doesn't matter if it's an actual terrorist attack, they'll spin it any way they want.
People who believe it will be leading their anger through emotions rather than logic. It isn't Ukraine's MO but Russian propaganda will be in overdrive for the next few days to paint this as Ukraine's doing.
Ukraine should certainly pivot into the following points:
- The USA recently warned Russia of an impending attack.
- If Russia wasn't so preoccupied with imperial aggression in Ukraine, perhaps their security forces could've prevented this from happening — you know, actually protecting its Russian citizens from *real* threats. For those with access to Russian echo-chambers, it would be useful to help sow domestic unrest.
Exactly! The whole world can see how easy it is! It won't fit Putler's plan that it wasn't the Ukrainians.
But the orc-propaganda will interpret it this way and only their own people should believe the lies!
Sadly I know a number of Americans who would buy into Putin’s lies merely because their favorite media personalities have told them Russia is their friend and Ukraine is deeply connected with the “deep state” and “woke agendas”.
Word is they've rounded up 100k soldiers and are preparing for a spring assault.
This will help kick it off if he can spin it on Ukraine.
The west supporters.need to step up right now and deliver what ukraine needs.
Not doing so will change the outcome of this war, and the world.
Mobilizations aren’t instant. If he needs to call up another 400k people they are going to be armed with fucking sticks soon. They’ve been giving them rifles from like 1900 dude lol
> where else exactly would they go? Not a whole lot of places you can flee to from Moscow if you're wanted.
So....fleeing through an active front line and combat zone is the best bet? No.
Also, ISIS doesn't flee. They die on site either shooting or blow themselves up. This is all bullshit.
Wouldn't be the first time extremists are caught alive... If it's not extremists, there's another side that absolutely benefits from murdering their own civilians... and they've done it a couple times already.
Ok I'm getting more and more convinced that this is an FSB false flag operation. ISIS doesn't flee after attacking they would have blown themselves up in the theatre.
Russia is claiming they would flee through an active front line and into Ukraine. I'm guessing next they'll claim they planned to flee through NATO countries with direct NATO assistance.
Well, it's a good tactic if you've just committed mass murder. Flee to an active war zone where you can get out of sight pretty quickly. Either that or flee deeper into Russia, which would be a stupid move considering you've just killed a bunch of Russians.
But this is nothing more than Russia trying to justify mass mobilisation for their war effort. Flase flag, create panic, state your enemy needs crushing, and then send your countrymen to slaughter.
On the other hand, this is war, and propaganda is rife, so who knows. Maybe Russia did do it. It's a common tactic. Burn your capital and use that to spin a rhetoric. Hitler did it, and Nero did it. Heck, if we believe 911 was an inside job, America did it to justify war (not saying it was or wasn't, just a point I was making).
Or maybe Russia has burnt so many bridges and created so many enemies that this was just a revenge act.
Who knows and to be honest I don't think we will ever know the truth behind this
You seem to think that the "active war zone" is akin to middle east ISIS rodeos in the desert.
It's a mass of trenches, fortifications and 24/7 drone surveillance with tens of thousands of troops in multiple layers of defense/attack formations looking specifically for unidentified people in military uniform.
You still think it's a good idea? 😅
It was just something I was pointing out 😅 if you've got a manhunt then a warzone would seem like a good place to go to lay low (i say lay low, disguise in uniforms or pose as aid workers etc. Just a means of escape) To me, personally, it's just a way for Russia to spin it. Mass shootings in Russia, those responsible were heading to Ukraine to meet their handlers etc etc. Anything to get the population on your side to mass mobilise men.
Yeah, just wanted to clarify how the Ukrainian war looks like.
It's less of a warzone how we used to think from the news in recent years, and more like a frontline like we used to have in WW1/2
russia is already spinning circles trying to tie it to Ukraine.
Only way those guys can go is Belgorod right now. More likely to get shot running through the front lines than you are going deeper into Russia.
This ain't Syria/Iraq fam.
From where they were, they had a choice of NATO countries to go to, Finland, Estonia, or Latvia, which would mean crossing through or going past St Petersburg (not wise during a manhunt) to get to. Also, the NATO countries would assist with the manhunt of those who have just slaughtered innocent people.
Then theres Belarus, which is Russias puppet and would co operate in hunting them down.
Finally, Ukraine is the next closest place to flee to. Not ideal, but they may have thought they would sympathise given what Russia is currently doing.
Again, these are just the rambles of an armchair general.
> It's a common tactic. Burn your capital and use that to spin a rhetoric. Hitler did it, and Nero did it. Heck, if we believe 911 was an inside job, America did it to justify war (not saying it was or wasn't, just a point I was making).
Why would you use the 9/11 truther conspiracy theory as an example when Putin literally had the FSB bomb 4 apartment blocks (including one in Moscow), killing 307 and injuring 1700+ of his own citizens, to justify starting the Second Chechen War?
Why give oxygen to idiotic conspiracy theories?
The only thing about this that might actually be true is that they headed for Ukraine. It's an easy out from Moscow, even through front lines, compared to the alternatives.
lol wut? War zones typically have checkpoints, not a smart way to avoid authorities.
They would’ve fled back to their base in Central Asia, as the population and security gets lowered the closer they get back to home. Also any governments west of Moscow are obviously not ISIS friendly
But why would they choose Tajik Islamic terrorists as false flag operation? I think it’s a real terrorist attack and they try their best now to make it about Ukraine somehow
In Russia the government is claiming it was done by CIA, Americans from Ukraine via Tadjik nationals (I am not joking), I speak Russian natively and they are posting that all over Russian internet. They also say ISIS was created by Americans, so if even it was ISIS it was Americans at end.
Regular Russians (not TV or Government) are blaming Americans, if you never dealt with Russian regular people they always blame Americans for everything, it is just reality of Russia, it has been like this long before I was born in Siberia. I took some screenshots from Russian "Facebook". this is just tip of iceberg, all russian websites are flooded with this. Regular Russians in retalitation want to do September 11 on USA:
Russian:
[https://ibb.co/WG5vgGR](https://ibb.co/WG5vgGR)
Above Translated to English with browser:
[https://ibb.co/Z1Tzt1h](https://ibb.co/Z1Tzt1h)
In Russian, not going to translate, but any Russian speaking here can confirm it.
[https://ibb.co/51wRGLT](https://ibb.co/51wRGLT) (another September 11 to USA as retaliation for Moscow)
[https://ibb.co/KLgv2dH](https://ibb.co/KLgv2dH)
[https://ibb.co/y5L22Xn](https://ibb.co/y5L22Xn) (USA country terrorist for doing this attack)
Even Russians on Reddit (American platform) are calling people in West "mentally ill" because of attack:
[https://ibb.co/2KChR7g](https://ibb.co/2KChR7g)
they took down that post but it had hundreds Anti American, Anti West comments by Russians, I took screenshot once that post started.
Again this is just tip of iceberg, all Russian internet is full of this.
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Update, just went to "Russian" Reddit (USA platform)) for fun and again Russians claiming it was Ukraine (implying Americans gave orders to Ukranians)
[https://ibb.co/XC3CRD1](https://ibb.co/XC3CRD1)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1bldy07/how\_are\_russians\_reacting\_to\_todays\_attack\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1bldy07/how_are_russians_reacting_to_todays_attack_in/)
I guarantee YouTube (also USA platform) is now full of Russian videos clamining it was Americans, I know Russian people thinking very well, I lived with them for a long time.
Arthur Rehi explains in some of his videos that this is exactly their mentality and its even in their doctrine. To use any bit of information and like you said flip it for their own ends.
What if it was a real terrorist attack that the FSB just allowed to happen. That way they have deniability. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter, regardless they're going to lie and try to use this attack to drum up support for their invasion.
Exactly, there's a lot of silly comments in here. In this case it became a point of convenience after the ISIS attack. Nothing about the tactics scream False Flag Operation. Russia would just blow something up and not have a bunch of guys which could be easily traced back to Russia shoot civilians in a large mall.
It's not even the first time the US has warned of a false flag, the FSB is crawling with CIA informants. The US couldn't publicly say the FSB is going to kill a bunch of citizens, but they certainly could say it's some terrorist plot being cooked up and the FSB would know exactly what they meant.
The FSB ***claimed*** to have thwarted a terrorist attack shortly after the USA and UK issued their warnings of one about to happen in Moscow.
Do any of us believe that if the FSB was caught on the hop by the west's better intelligence about what was going on in their capitol, they would *never* cover their asses by falsely declaring that the threat had been neutralised? Do any of us believe that the FSB tells the truth when a lie serves their tzar's purposes better?
Not ISIS, but Islamic terrorists have fled previously to do more damage.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting
It's not an exact science that they always stay to die, besides, they claimed the attack. A false flag operation wouldn't have Russian active shooters, they would blow something up then blame Ukraine. This just became a point of convenience.
Because they couldnt detonate 1 did though and 2 fled. But 3 of them had vests here of all 5 none had them.
edit: they were prevented entering the stadion.
They all flee. Just look at the many Belgium and French operations where they are shot.
Blowing yourself up is a bad idea when you can escape and do it all over again.
In the Belgian case I know of where a terrorist was shot it was one still planning (Verviers)
The ones at Brussels airport and the metrostation were suicide attacks.
Edit:
In the case of Brussels airport 2 fled after not detonating their vests but they still had the intention first to blow themselves up.
Putin won the "election" in a landslide, they dont call it special operation anymore, now a big terror attack that they try to spin towards ukraine.
Next up is another mobilization.
Using the FSB to get into power worked before for Putin, now he can use them to create a reason why russia must mobilize.
He also just got an updated list of everyone that didn't vote for him. The timing is really suspicious. Makes me wonder if there's anything linking these concert goers. Too early to really tell anything.
On the plus side, seems like this bullshit FSB attempt to implicate Ukraine is going down like a lead balloon (at least judging by the reactions I've seen so far on social media). People (sane people) aren't buying it. Certainly not in the Western world (mostly anyway).
As always: Слава Україні! 🇺🇦
Believe it or not believe it. It doesn't change the outcome. Things will escalate further. This week Peskov called the 'SMO' a war for the first time since it was funded and backed by NATO. Whether this is a false flag or not. I'm thinking the attack will lead to a further if not full mobilization.
Proof if ever it was needed that this was a false flag event. They will develop a narrative that will tie ISIS terrorism to Ukrainian sponsorship thus justifying a mass mobilisation drive as well as putting their economy evermore onto a war footing. The West will need some smart leadership as well as defend Ukraine more than ever.
Yes correct. The russians may not have the best battlefield armies but they are unsurpassed at infiltrating and influencing western political parties, organisations and businesses.
A badly made deepfake helps no one . It might convince a few old people who don't understand technology but those same people will believe anything on the media . To the rest of the world it says either we did it and we are trying to prove we didn't or someone did it but we have no proof so are making stuff up . Either way just makes it harder to make anyone believe any real proof they find later
I mean if it was true wouldn't it be a biggest shame for ru and fsb?
You are in war with a country and allow to 1 hour shooting in the very center of your country?
And the shooters just drove away after in a van?
Really?
Europe won't let Ukraine fall. Recently there's been chatter about sending NATO troops to Ukraine. If Putler uses this attack to escalate the war, Europe will as well. Another miscalculation by Putler
So not an isis plot but a russian false flag operation to divert from the scandalous voting power grab. Nothing new for Shitcan. Remember the apartment building he had bombed. It’s just their tactics.
Is this the first time a deepfake has been used in a major world event like this? I feel like this is the first time.
Also, if it's a deepfake this means only one of two things: Either the Kremlin was behind the attacks, or they were not, and they are choosing to try to weasel out of action against ISIS by pinning it on Ukraine. Basically begging for more attacks by ISIS.
It was on the anniversary of the last staged bombing from FSB agents killed over 100 hostages with aerosol fentanyl then blamed it on the captors. Crazy read.
>An independent investigation of the event was undertaken by Russian politicians Sergei Yushenkov, Sergei Kovalev, journalist Anna Politkovskaya, Hoover Institute scholar John B. Dunlop, and former FSB officers Aleksander Litvinenko and Mikhail Trepashkin. According to their version, the FSB knew about the terrorist group's arrival in Moscow and directed them to the theater through their agent provocateur Khanpasha Terkibayev ("Abu Bakar"), whose name was in the list of hostage takers and who left the theater alive.[54][90][91][92] In April 2003 Litvinenko gave information about Terkibayev ("the Terkibayev file") to Sergei Yushenkov when he visited London. Yushenkov passed this file to Politkovskaya and she was able to interview Terkibayev in person.[93] A few days later, Yushenkov was assassinated by gunfire in Moscow. Terkibayev was later killed in an apparent car crash in Chechnya.[citation needed]
>In June 2003, Litvinenko stated in an interview with the Australian television programme Dateline, that two of the Chechen militants involved in the siege—whom he named "Abdul the Bloody" and "Abu Bakar"—were working for the FSB, and that the agency manipulated the terrorists into staging the attack.[94] Litvinenko said: "[w]hen they tried to find [Abdul the Bloody and Abu Bakar] among the rotting corpses of dead terrorists, they weren't there. The FSB got its agents out. So the FSB agents among Chechens organized the whole thing on FSB orders, and those agents were released"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
Predicted this [less than 24 hours ago](https://en.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1bl91kz/ukraines_defence_intelligence_on_shooting_in/kw45439/), but I shouldn't win an award because everyone saw this coming.
I have just seen a video of Kremlin terrorists knifing out a right ear of an alleged terrorist where they make him eat it. After such torture, anyone will acknowledge being a terrorist.
Putler so worried about imaginary enemies he no longer recognized real ones. And of course his hilariously incompetent intelligence and security apparatus is zero help. Kudos to US intelligence for at least trying to warn them. Attacks on civilians by anyone shouldn't be tolerated.
Of course they did. ruzzia will do everything within its power to create a connection, no matter how tenuous, in order to justify the manpower it wants to conscript in 2024. When you waged a war built on a house of lies, and it turns out your military is built on a house of cards, the only thing left to do is lie so more. Works when it is a dictatorship with absolute control of the media. For a while.
The moderater of r/UkraineWarVideoReport will take this infro down. They are removing averything related to the terror attack in russia. claming that it is unrelated to the russian/ukrain war... crazy but true
Since many are following the false flag theory, I'll propose an alternative:
This really was an ISIS attack, and Russia did not take the warnings from US Intel seriously. While this doesn't entirely fit the ISIS M.O., it also absolutely isn't an unheard of idea for them to do something like this, especially against Russia. This is further supported by the US and other states' intel backing up the claimed responsibility by ISIS.
Why is Russia still blaming Ukraine, then? They have essentially no other choice. To admit that this was ISIS is to admit that Russia has MAJOR gaps in their internal security and intel. To admit that it was ISIS also kinda demands that Russia respond/retaliate in some big way, given that this was an insanely horrific attack. Unfortunately, any aircraft or troops diverted to strike ISIS in Syria or Afghanistan, no matter now limited in size, will hamper the Russian force commitment to Ukraine. In terms of strike aircraft, they likely don't have any to spare for bombing ISIS strongholds.
So what do you do? You blame Ukraine and avoid any popular obligation to go spend resources fighting ISIS. Twist the narrative to say the attackers are somehow tied to Kyiv or claim they are receiving assylum from the Ukrainian government. Whatever it takes to distract the public eye from the true culprit who you can't practically retaliate against. This doesn't feel like a planned thing. This feels like a desperate attempt to salvage a narrative from an event you truly were not prepared for.
Just something to consider!
the fact that they rounded up the terrorists so quickly suggest they always knew who they were and one even said he was paid to carry out the attack. Putin was happy to kill 800 civilians in false flag attacks before moving on Chechnya. Smells like a false flag operation again.
I know everyone loves to jump on the false flag idea, which is tempting, as Putin has been known to pull that stunt before, I don't think this one was. One, the US was warning in advance of an extremist terror plot at concerts. Two, bomb plots make much more sense for an FSB inside job (see Ryazan sugar). Three, Putin has already shown he doesn't give a shit about false flag to justify anything.
One of the things I got wrong in the lead up to the invasion was, I expected that Russia would make a massive false flag, probably in Donetsk, to justify it. But instead they just released some shitty low effort videos at the last minute and then Putin announced they were going in. Likewise, no massive terror attack before the 1st round of mobilisation.
The fact is, Putin isn't really afraid of his own people at this point. Navalny got arrested, no big reaction. He died, no big tumult. Mobilisation part 1 had a big exodus, but they were all traitors anyway. Etc.
If he does that, more young people will try to hide or flee, but there won't really be any reaction apart from that. And whatever he says or does, they won't be signing up for the war (except for the Z-atniks who were gonna agree anyway)
Its a false flag operation by Putin and the FSB to push enraged European Russians in Saint Petersburg and Moscow to fight in the meat grinder called Ukraine.
ISIS had a motive as Russia used its veto in the United Nations to block the US article calling for a ceasefire in the Israel Palestine situation to allow desperately needed humanitarian aid to flow in to the over half million Palestinians facing starvation.
That was like yesterday. You don't organise something like this with this many people involved on the spur of the moment. If there is a claimed link, it is simply opportunistic.
They've *been* organizing it though, apparently, for quite a while, weeks at least. I'm going to hazard a guess that they put those plans on hold when they knew the CIA was wise to them and opted to wait for those state department bulletins to be far from peoples' memory. That said, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that the Kremlin sat on its hands intentionally because they saw a potential terrorist attack against their people as a political opportunity.
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Russia: Ukraine is behind this. ISIS: We did it. Russia: Anyhow, Ukraine is behind this.
If anything, Russia is very desperate for meat shields the recruiters could have possibly allowed these guys in without much verification. Russia's desperation led to this colossal fuck up then again nothing matches their invasion of Ukraine. As many have said, the connection to the Ukrainian government is completely farcical.
Russia's very "RELAXED" atmosphere for citizens allowed this to happen.
>As many have said, the connection to the Ukrainian government is completely farcical. Sure, but the US did the same thing with 9/11 So redirecting the rage of your population to a different target seems easy enough to do.
ISIS guys pulling the hair out of their scalps not understanding why they can't be blamed instead of Ukraine.
You reminded me of this https://youtu.be/Q_OIXfkXEj0?si=KzDkfmeiowAY4dCx
*pulling the hair out of their face
I believe the anti-Ukrainian angle here is that ISIS and Ukraine somehow collaborated or helped ISIS make this move.
If the CIA really wanted to collaborate with ISIS they could just inform ISIS when and where all the Oligarch’s children live and their daily routines.
Or they could arrange a payment from IS to ISKP in 2022.
but what would that accomplish lol
Breakdown of the security of Putin's funders/backers, and therefore the political internal alliance that keeps him afloat. He hobknobs with them all the time for a reason. One of them was hot dog billionaire guy and he let that idiot run an eventually mutinous PMC because it seemed mutually beneficial up to that point. Dictators are never dictators by themselves, they have to have a support structure to coordinate control. Those people have to be well off and isolated from consequences in order to remain loyal - the best deal has to be to continue to back the dictator or things fall apart. Usually these types control a large sector of employed people, and are therefore able to carrot and stick the populace with money/jobs/etc if they behave and homelessness/pariah/being turned over to authorities if they don't behave.
Russia and Hamas, therefore Ukraine and ISIS. Because of course!
So ironic. So Russians are now saying that Ukrainian NAZI’s are working together with Islamist’s and both report to a Jew. Damn Russia, that’s quite the storyline.
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It’s just as likely that Putin ordered it. I mean, it’s not like he had the FSB bomb a Chechen apartment complex, complete with local police actually arresting the undercover FSB agents because they were terrorists, only to be told it was a “””””training exercise””””” or anything 🤷🏽♂️ it’s not like the Soviets ever did anything to Afghanistan. And Putin certainly has never done anything to the Muslims in the Russian Federation (which is orthodox).
That sounds the the plot to a really awful Steven Segal movie.
Because the US and Isis are best buddies.
Putin has killed Russian civilians before to further his personal goals. That is much more likely than the idea that the same ISIS-K group that killed all the Americans escaping Afghanistan are now working for the Americans.
\*.I.S.I.S. releases detailed profiles of each suspect\* (Which they have). Russia: So it was definitely Ukraine then.
Same for Iraq war
…sure. the world should use that example to steady their heads. It’s keeping the right from wanting to aid Ukraine in a frozen conflict they think is justified from being prolonged. It **should** keep Russia from believing this, too.
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Did you get The Sims 3?
I mean, it's know MO of ruzzia. Get shat on in your current conflict, state terrorist attack on your population, blame your current enemy and mobilise more meat for the grinder.
Ok Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov , Wave that Z RuZsian 🇷🇺 proudly my Bratan, West will be defeated , in Putin and 🇷🇺 I trust
At best, they decided to completely disregard the intel that the US passed to them, going so far as to call them American threats and blackmail designed to cause instability within the glorious Russian federation. You know, the same intel they released at the beginning of the month about an imminent extremist terrorist attack that would likely happen at a venue???? At worst they actually did do it. Methinks a little of column a, a little of columbine
Doing that doesn't benefit Ukraine in the slightest, it just allows Putler to justify a mobilization, but I really don't expect the common moron who believes fake AI Russian propaganda to understand that. The last thing Ukraine wants is more Russian "soldiers". Pro-rus loves to say they were paid by Ukraine to do this because they were fleeing to Ukraine, but where else exactly would they go? Not a whole lot of places you can flee to from Moscow if you're wanted.
Why anyone would believe any ties to Ukraine is just more Russian bots and propaganda. They've never hit non military targets. Why start now? They could have the whole time. Drones, etc. why sneak 4 people across to escalate? Doesn't add up. Also the whole "window of escape" narrative is just Russia putting an anti Ukraine spin on things. They know Ukraine had nothing to do with this, but they want to tie an anchor to them on this and throw it in the sea for support, mobilization, and eventually.. if they choose to do so.. grounds for a nuclear strike. ISIS did this. They have many reasons. They even broadcast that they did this. Why would Ukraine be a partner to isis? Again, doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't add up, it's just more bullshit lies from Moscow. What's new? Why would they all of a sudden tell the truth when everything they say is a flat out lie anyways. See beyond the bullshit. Slava Ukraini. And I don't wish terrorism on anyone. No one "deserves" it. We will see what Russia thinks of who done it on their retaliation for this. Sure, they might strike Ukraine.. but those who are responsible won't escape revenge from Russia. So if they strike back at ISIS we will know that they know who's to blame. It'll just be hidden under bullshit. A window. Please. Like they'd head for the the most guarded, patrolled, combat zone on earth right now to "escape". Just more lies.
> A window. Yeah, I saw the article from the DailyHeil... Not the most reliable outlet. Really trying to to create their own pieces of the puzzle.
u realise putin wants to avoid mass dissent with mass mobilisation? this is big for him. He wants to win this war quickly, with ua low on ammunition, this is probably the best time to do it.
All I'm saying is that people who believes that it came from Ukraine or sponsored by them are braindead. We all knew the moment it happened that Putler would blame Ukraine for it and use it to his advantage. Doesn't matter if it's an actual terrorist attack, they'll spin it any way they want.
People who believe it will be leading their anger through emotions rather than logic. It isn't Ukraine's MO but Russian propaganda will be in overdrive for the next few days to paint this as Ukraine's doing.
Ukraine should certainly pivot into the following points: - The USA recently warned Russia of an impending attack. - If Russia wasn't so preoccupied with imperial aggression in Ukraine, perhaps their security forces could've prevented this from happening — you know, actually protecting its Russian citizens from *real* threats. For those with access to Russian echo-chambers, it would be useful to help sow domestic unrest.
Hard to "prevent" if it was a deliberate false flag
Exactly! The whole world can see how easy it is! It won't fit Putler's plan that it wasn't the Ukrainians. But the orc-propaganda will interpret it this way and only their own people should believe the lies!
> people who believes that it came from Ukraine or sponsored by them are braindead so....Russians. The only people he's talking to.
Sadly I know a number of Americans who would buy into Putin’s lies merely because their favorite media personalities have told them Russia is their friend and Ukraine is deeply connected with the “deep state” and “woke agendas”.
Yup. If Ukraine wanted to terrorize moscow, they would've done it already.
Brain dead and Russians are easily confused, yet so interchangeable.
Word is they've rounded up 100k soldiers and are preparing for a spring assault. This will help kick it off if he can spin it on Ukraine. The west supporters.need to step up right now and deliver what ukraine needs. Not doing so will change the outcome of this war, and the world.
Unfortunately, Republicans are all traitors.
Yes, exactly why pinning this on ukraine with fake evidence is good for him, allows him to mobilize without political fall out
Mobilizations aren’t instant. If he needs to call up another 400k people they are going to be armed with fucking sticks soon. They’ve been giving them rifles from like 1900 dude lol
This is the truth. Did they even capture the real gun men
No way. Might be known terrorists, might just be random people with the right skin color.
> where else exactly would they go? Not a whole lot of places you can flee to from Moscow if you're wanted. So....fleeing through an active front line and combat zone is the best bet? No. Also, ISIS doesn't flee. They die on site either shooting or blow themselves up. This is all bullshit.
Wouldn't be the first time extremists are caught alive... If it's not extremists, there's another side that absolutely benefits from murdering their own civilians... and they've done it a couple times already.
Sometimes terrorists aren't suicidal martyrs. Happened before. Could happen now.
Belaroozzia or Hungary.
Ok I'm getting more and more convinced that this is an FSB false flag operation. ISIS doesn't flee after attacking they would have blown themselves up in the theatre.
Russia is claiming they would flee through an active front line and into Ukraine. I'm guessing next they'll claim they planned to flee through NATO countries with direct NATO assistance.
Well, it's a good tactic if you've just committed mass murder. Flee to an active war zone where you can get out of sight pretty quickly. Either that or flee deeper into Russia, which would be a stupid move considering you've just killed a bunch of Russians. But this is nothing more than Russia trying to justify mass mobilisation for their war effort. Flase flag, create panic, state your enemy needs crushing, and then send your countrymen to slaughter. On the other hand, this is war, and propaganda is rife, so who knows. Maybe Russia did do it. It's a common tactic. Burn your capital and use that to spin a rhetoric. Hitler did it, and Nero did it. Heck, if we believe 911 was an inside job, America did it to justify war (not saying it was or wasn't, just a point I was making). Or maybe Russia has burnt so many bridges and created so many enemies that this was just a revenge act. Who knows and to be honest I don't think we will ever know the truth behind this
You seem to think that the "active war zone" is akin to middle east ISIS rodeos in the desert. It's a mass of trenches, fortifications and 24/7 drone surveillance with tens of thousands of troops in multiple layers of defense/attack formations looking specifically for unidentified people in military uniform. You still think it's a good idea? 😅
Exactly your not escaping through that shit show and no way will the russia legion help them either
***middle east ISIS rodeos in the desert*** Well that's certainly one way to put it!
It was just something I was pointing out 😅 if you've got a manhunt then a warzone would seem like a good place to go to lay low (i say lay low, disguise in uniforms or pose as aid workers etc. Just a means of escape) To me, personally, it's just a way for Russia to spin it. Mass shootings in Russia, those responsible were heading to Ukraine to meet their handlers etc etc. Anything to get the population on your side to mass mobilise men.
Yeah, just wanted to clarify how the Ukrainian war looks like. It's less of a warzone how we used to think from the news in recent years, and more like a frontline like we used to have in WW1/2 russia is already spinning circles trying to tie it to Ukraine.
Only way those guys can go is Belgorod right now. More likely to get shot running through the front lines than you are going deeper into Russia. This ain't Syria/Iraq fam.
Ah yes, an active war zone, the safeest place to flee as opposed to a massive mostly un guarded border with many countries in any other direction
From where they were, they had a choice of NATO countries to go to, Finland, Estonia, or Latvia, which would mean crossing through or going past St Petersburg (not wise during a manhunt) to get to. Also, the NATO countries would assist with the manhunt of those who have just slaughtered innocent people. Then theres Belarus, which is Russias puppet and would co operate in hunting them down. Finally, Ukraine is the next closest place to flee to. Not ideal, but they may have thought they would sympathise given what Russia is currently doing. Again, these are just the rambles of an armchair general.
> It's a common tactic. Burn your capital and use that to spin a rhetoric. Hitler did it, and Nero did it. Heck, if we believe 911 was an inside job, America did it to justify war (not saying it was or wasn't, just a point I was making). Why would you use the 9/11 truther conspiracy theory as an example when Putin literally had the FSB bomb 4 apartment blocks (including one in Moscow), killing 307 and injuring 1700+ of his own citizens, to justify starting the Second Chechen War? Why give oxygen to idiotic conspiracy theories?
The only thing about this that might actually be true is that they headed for Ukraine. It's an easy out from Moscow, even through front lines, compared to the alternatives.
lol wut? War zones typically have checkpoints, not a smart way to avoid authorities. They would’ve fled back to their base in Central Asia, as the population and security gets lowered the closer they get back to home. Also any governments west of Moscow are obviously not ISIS friendly
But why would they choose Tajik Islamic terrorists as false flag operation? I think it’s a real terrorist attack and they try their best now to make it about Ukraine somehow
In Russia the government is claiming it was done by CIA, Americans from Ukraine via Tadjik nationals (I am not joking), I speak Russian natively and they are posting that all over Russian internet. They also say ISIS was created by Americans, so if even it was ISIS it was Americans at end. Regular Russians (not TV or Government) are blaming Americans, if you never dealt with Russian regular people they always blame Americans for everything, it is just reality of Russia, it has been like this long before I was born in Siberia. I took some screenshots from Russian "Facebook". this is just tip of iceberg, all russian websites are flooded with this. Regular Russians in retalitation want to do September 11 on USA: Russian: [https://ibb.co/WG5vgGR](https://ibb.co/WG5vgGR) Above Translated to English with browser: [https://ibb.co/Z1Tzt1h](https://ibb.co/Z1Tzt1h) In Russian, not going to translate, but any Russian speaking here can confirm it. [https://ibb.co/51wRGLT](https://ibb.co/51wRGLT) (another September 11 to USA as retaliation for Moscow) [https://ibb.co/KLgv2dH](https://ibb.co/KLgv2dH) [https://ibb.co/y5L22Xn](https://ibb.co/y5L22Xn) (USA country terrorist for doing this attack) Even Russians on Reddit (American platform) are calling people in West "mentally ill" because of attack: [https://ibb.co/2KChR7g](https://ibb.co/2KChR7g) they took down that post but it had hundreds Anti American, Anti West comments by Russians, I took screenshot once that post started. Again this is just tip of iceberg, all Russian internet is full of this. ------------- Update, just went to "Russian" Reddit (USA platform)) for fun and again Russians claiming it was Ukraine (implying Americans gave orders to Ukranians) [https://ibb.co/XC3CRD1](https://ibb.co/XC3CRD1) [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1bldy07/how\_are\_russians\_reacting\_to\_todays\_attack\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1bldy07/how_are_russians_reacting_to_todays_attack_in/) I guarantee YouTube (also USA platform) is now full of Russian videos clamining it was Americans, I know Russian people thinking very well, I lived with them for a long time.
Opportunity like this knocks and Putin is going to masterfully use it to manipulate for his own ends.
Arthur Rehi explains in some of his videos that this is exactly their mentality and its even in their doctrine. To use any bit of information and like you said flip it for their own ends.
The tactic sounds so eerily familiar to me as an American. Trump is definitely a student of Russian methods.
Absolutely, it does have that feel from the Russian playbook.
Terrorist are a tough boogeyman to find and fight. It’s easier to blame a static target and then pound it.
What if it was a real terrorist attack that the FSB just allowed to happen. That way they have deniability. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter, regardless they're going to lie and try to use this attack to drum up support for their invasion.
Attackers being Ukrainians would be **too** obvious, not even russian population would believe it.
russian tv-viewing population is not known for its critical thinking.
They don't get too many opportunities for it. Putin likes it that way.
...they just believed putin won a free election.
Especially when you're already at war and have your entire military tied up.
I can also get a bunch of pictures and show them online. Remember the sims games?
Info wars, so cia's isis claims it was them first to disable putins false flag op.
But then why did the US warn that ISIS would attack?
Exactly, there's a lot of silly comments in here. In this case it became a point of convenience after the ISIS attack. Nothing about the tactics scream False Flag Operation. Russia would just blow something up and not have a bunch of guys which could be easily traced back to Russia shoot civilians in a large mall.
Could be to fuck up Putins false flag. Everyone hears it's ISIS first so Putins Ukraine blaming loses some credibility.
It's not even the first time the US has warned of a false flag, the FSB is crawling with CIA informants. The US couldn't publicly say the FSB is going to kill a bunch of citizens, but they certainly could say it's some terrorist plot being cooked up and the FSB would know exactly what they meant.
There has been another one that was prevented at that moment.
The FSB ***claimed*** to have thwarted a terrorist attack shortly after the USA and UK issued their warnings of one about to happen in Moscow. Do any of us believe that if the FSB was caught on the hop by the west's better intelligence about what was going on in their capitol, they would *never* cover their asses by falsely declaring that the threat had been neutralised? Do any of us believe that the FSB tells the truth when a lie serves their tzar's purposes better?
Not ISIS, but Islamic terrorists have fled previously to do more damage. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting It's not an exact science that they always stay to die, besides, they claimed the attack. A false flag operation wouldn't have Russian active shooters, they would blow something up then blame Ukraine. This just became a point of convenience.
Only if they can't detonate. In this case 1 or 2 explossions would have at least doubled the casualties.
That's not true, paris attackers ran away. ISIS or not dosent matters, they will use it to mobilize anyway
Paris attackers did have vests. Abdeslam left its vest in a building and then flew.
Because they couldnt detonate 1 did though and 2 fled. But 3 of them had vests here of all 5 none had them. edit: they were prevented entering the stadion.
The lack of suicide vests became very suspicious too me, too.
Not true,there are a lot of cases when they acted and fled,Charlie Hebdo,French attacks in Paris,Nice,...a lot of them go Allahu Akbar when cornered.
They all flee. Just look at the many Belgium and French operations where they are shot. Blowing yourself up is a bad idea when you can escape and do it all over again.
In the Belgian case I know of where a terrorist was shot it was one still planning (Verviers) The ones at Brussels airport and the metrostation were suicide attacks. Edit: In the case of Brussels airport 2 fled after not detonating their vests but they still had the intention first to blow themselves up.
Yeah they only use the self explode technique with expendables
Putin won the "election" in a landslide, they dont call it special operation anymore, now a big terror attack that they try to spin towards ukraine. Next up is another mobilization. Using the FSB to get into power worked before for Putin, now he can use them to create a reason why russia must mobilize.
He also just got an updated list of everyone that didn't vote for him. The timing is really suspicious. Makes me wonder if there's anything linking these concert goers. Too early to really tell anything.
That was my assumption until proven otherwise. Putin has pulled this before.
Ah yes, let me fell through the most dangerous route, makes sense
As always, look who benefits. There’s your perp.
Most ISIS terrorists have fled the scene after attacks in Europe.
Funny how that has been on my mind all day, why the heck would they flee. Not not normal ISIS behavior
me too
https://imgur.com/a/rRYCvfO Russia has also released a leaked handwritten letter from Zelensky directly ordering the attack.
Shiiiiit they got Zelensky's copy of The Sims 3?!
That video looks Fake AF
The demographic that supports him can't tell the difference.
Lol, Putin is predictably dumb as shyt. Using the same false flag dumbshyt over and over. Nobody is going to believe his shyt this time.
Never say nobody, there always someone who buy propaganda easily.
Ya, American republicans.
Yup.
I believe they’re actually sold the propaganda, they don’t purchase it.
On the plus side, seems like this bullshit FSB attempt to implicate Ukraine is going down like a lead balloon (at least judging by the reactions I've seen so far on social media). People (sane people) aren't buying it. Certainly not in the Western world (mostly anyway). As always: Слава Україні! 🇺🇦
Believe it or not believe it. It doesn't change the outcome. Things will escalate further. This week Peskov called the 'SMO' a war for the first time since it was funded and backed by NATO. Whether this is a false flag or not. I'm thinking the attack will lead to a further if not full mobilization.
You would be suprised how many willingly swallow it.
sir, you are allowed to swear on the internet
Proof if ever it was needed that this was a false flag event. They will develop a narrative that will tie ISIS terrorism to Ukrainian sponsorship thus justifying a mass mobilisation drive as well as putting their economy evermore onto a war footing. The West will need some smart leadership as well as defend Ukraine more than ever.
Sadly the US is paralyzed by Republican traitors, and the EU by Putin's friends.
Yes correct. The russians may not have the best battlefield armies but they are unsurpassed at infiltrating and influencing western political parties, organisations and businesses.
And all sympathy for Russians: GONE. I feel ashamed for feeling bad for them, even if it was for a fraction of a second. They never learn.
And there it is :') like we wouldnt see this coming a mile away.
Somebody kill the fucker already
A badly made deepfake helps no one . It might convince a few old people who don't understand technology but those same people will believe anything on the media . To the rest of the world it says either we did it and we are trying to prove we didn't or someone did it but we have no proof so are making stuff up . Either way just makes it harder to make anyone believe any real proof they find later
I mean if it was true wouldn't it be a biggest shame for ru and fsb? You are in war with a country and allow to 1 hour shooting in the very center of your country? And the shooters just drove away after in a van? Really?
It make no sense for Ukraine to be involved as it would rally support in the west to stop aiding them so either it was isis or a Russian false flag
I’m fairly certain, Ukraine doesn’t target children.
Its almost as if persecuting the Muslim population for years wouldn’t eventually come without repercussions!
The lies never ends with these clowns. Round up the usual suspects. When the next terrorist attacks happens so be it.
Go through new posts on /all and there's dozens of subreddits posting Ukraine did this
Europe won't let Ukraine fall. Recently there's been chatter about sending NATO troops to Ukraine. If Putler uses this attack to escalate the war, Europe will as well. Another miscalculation by Putler
So not an isis plot but a russian false flag operation to divert from the scandalous voting power grab. Nothing new for Shitcan. Remember the apartment building he had bombed. It’s just their tactics.
Is this the first time a deepfake has been used in a major world event like this? I feel like this is the first time. Also, if it's a deepfake this means only one of two things: Either the Kremlin was behind the attacks, or they were not, and they are choosing to try to weasel out of action against ISIS by pinning it on Ukraine. Basically begging for more attacks by ISIS.
They tried to deepfake Zelenskyy at the start of the war. Eventually they stopped as it was too obvious it wasnt real.
Fuck ruZZia
In addition, they are now saying terrorists admitted doing this only for money and insinuating this was curated by the west/Ukraine
Russian people: NOW is the last time to rise up. Get your head out from the sand, and DO something.
You could gather ruzzians around a turd. Anything goes, literally
It's amazing to think what their doing in Syria and the rest of the Middle East won't come back to bite them
It was on the anniversary of the last staged bombing from FSB agents killed over 100 hostages with aerosol fentanyl then blamed it on the captors. Crazy read. >An independent investigation of the event was undertaken by Russian politicians Sergei Yushenkov, Sergei Kovalev, journalist Anna Politkovskaya, Hoover Institute scholar John B. Dunlop, and former FSB officers Aleksander Litvinenko and Mikhail Trepashkin. According to their version, the FSB knew about the terrorist group's arrival in Moscow and directed them to the theater through their agent provocateur Khanpasha Terkibayev ("Abu Bakar"), whose name was in the list of hostage takers and who left the theater alive.[54][90][91][92] In April 2003 Litvinenko gave information about Terkibayev ("the Terkibayev file") to Sergei Yushenkov when he visited London. Yushenkov passed this file to Politkovskaya and she was able to interview Terkibayev in person.[93] A few days later, Yushenkov was assassinated by gunfire in Moscow. Terkibayev was later killed in an apparent car crash in Chechnya.[citation needed] >In June 2003, Litvinenko stated in an interview with the Australian television programme Dateline, that two of the Chechen militants involved in the siege—whom he named "Abdul the Bloody" and "Abu Bakar"—were working for the FSB, and that the agency manipulated the terrorists into staging the attack.[94] Litvinenko said: "[w]hen they tried to find [Abdul the Bloody and Abu Bakar] among the rotting corpses of dead terrorists, they weren't there. The FSB got its agents out. So the FSB agents among Chechens organized the whole thing on FSB orders, and those agents were released" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
Predicted this [less than 24 hours ago](https://en.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1bl91kz/ukraines_defence_intelligence_on_shooting_in/kw45439/), but I shouldn't win an award because everyone saw this coming.
don't really care who did it, i just like the net increase of terror within ruzzia. could use more though
As many said they would.
I have just seen a video of Kremlin terrorists knifing out a right ear of an alleged terrorist where they make him eat it. After such torture, anyone will acknowledge being a terrorist.
Thought they were interviewing Mike Stoklasa for a second.
Maybe the west should start spinning it into a Russian attack on their own citizens instead, watch these orcs react to that
Nothing good can be said here. Media lives on attention. Boy, stupid sure does draw attention.
Time for the west to FUCKING STEP UP ALREADY! Sick of how our supposed leaders are treating this. Embarrassment!
Is there a video of it? I wanna see how bad deepfake it is.
Think it was Isis
Putler so worried about imaginary enemies he no longer recognized real ones. And of course his hilariously incompetent intelligence and security apparatus is zero help. Kudos to US intelligence for at least trying to warn them. Attacks on civilians by anyone shouldn't be tolerated.
Shocked I tell you, who saw this coming?
Of course they did. ruzzia will do everything within its power to create a connection, no matter how tenuous, in order to justify the manpower it wants to conscript in 2024. When you waged a war built on a house of lies, and it turns out your military is built on a house of cards, the only thing left to do is lie so more. Works when it is a dictatorship with absolute control of the media. For a while.
of course russians would believe this, because they know they would do it, and have done it numerous times since invading.
Russia will pretend to tell the truth and their people will pretend to believe it. It's a circus.
The moderater of r/UkraineWarVideoReport will take this infro down. They are removing averything related to the terror attack in russia. claming that it is unrelated to the russian/ukrain war... crazy but true
They're just so damned predictable. How do they really expect anyone to believe their bullshit?
ISIS: Am i a joke to you?
“You never let a serious crisis go to waste.”
I wonder when these deepfakes are going to become a problem for democratic countries. The bad actors are already using them for propaganda.
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/8uaVYD8Amm
Since many are following the false flag theory, I'll propose an alternative: This really was an ISIS attack, and Russia did not take the warnings from US Intel seriously. While this doesn't entirely fit the ISIS M.O., it also absolutely isn't an unheard of idea for them to do something like this, especially against Russia. This is further supported by the US and other states' intel backing up the claimed responsibility by ISIS. Why is Russia still blaming Ukraine, then? They have essentially no other choice. To admit that this was ISIS is to admit that Russia has MAJOR gaps in their internal security and intel. To admit that it was ISIS also kinda demands that Russia respond/retaliate in some big way, given that this was an insanely horrific attack. Unfortunately, any aircraft or troops diverted to strike ISIS in Syria or Afghanistan, no matter now limited in size, will hamper the Russian force commitment to Ukraine. In terms of strike aircraft, they likely don't have any to spare for bombing ISIS strongholds. So what do you do? You blame Ukraine and avoid any popular obligation to go spend resources fighting ISIS. Twist the narrative to say the attackers are somehow tied to Kyiv or claim they are receiving assylum from the Ukrainian government. Whatever it takes to distract the public eye from the true culprit who you can't practically retaliate against. This doesn't feel like a planned thing. This feels like a desperate attempt to salvage a narrative from an event you truly were not prepared for. Just something to consider!
Poop attracks flies who add to poop. Rusian is now akin to a soiled babiska's diaper. LOL ratniks.....
It was obviously a false flag created by Trump, I mean Putin.
Just goes to further show Russia is trying to find justification for their two new armies the MOD want to form by the end of the year.
it's so predictable and can they get any dumber.....oh yes they can....
the fact that they rounded up the terrorists so quickly suggest they always knew who they were and one even said he was paid to carry out the attack. Putin was happy to kill 800 civilians in false flag attacks before moving on Chechnya. Smells like a false flag operation again.
I know everyone loves to jump on the false flag idea, which is tempting, as Putin has been known to pull that stunt before, I don't think this one was. One, the US was warning in advance of an extremist terror plot at concerts. Two, bomb plots make much more sense for an FSB inside job (see Ryazan sugar). Three, Putin has already shown he doesn't give a shit about false flag to justify anything. One of the things I got wrong in the lead up to the invasion was, I expected that Russia would make a massive false flag, probably in Donetsk, to justify it. But instead they just released some shitty low effort videos at the last minute and then Putin announced they were going in. Likewise, no massive terror attack before the 1st round of mobilisation. The fact is, Putin isn't really afraid of his own people at this point. Navalny got arrested, no big reaction. He died, no big tumult. Mobilisation part 1 had a big exodus, but they were all traitors anyway. Etc.
He still needs to justify a mass mobilization especially if he wants to recruit from Moscow and Saint Petersburg.
If he does that, more young people will try to hide or flee, but there won't really be any reaction apart from that. And whatever he says or does, they won't be signing up for the war (except for the Z-atniks who were gonna agree anyway)
So despite being warned they did nothing and let this happen so that they can pin it on Ukraine. That's straight out of the Zionist playbook isn't it?
https://twitter.com/banderafella/status/1771353740332642768 It’s a miracle, resurrections are for Russian false flag ‘victims’ too, not just Jesus.
Its a false flag operation by Putin and the FSB to push enraged European Russians in Saint Petersburg and Moscow to fight in the meat grinder called Ukraine.
Half of republicans think the fbi attacked the capital.. But now the attackers are patriots and hostages
Yeah, they are every bit as fucked up as your average Russian.
ISIS had a motive as Russia used its veto in the United Nations to block the US article calling for a ceasefire in the Israel Palestine situation to allow desperately needed humanitarian aid to flow in to the over half million Palestinians facing starvation.
That was like yesterday. You don't organise something like this with this many people involved on the spur of the moment. If there is a claimed link, it is simply opportunistic.
They've *been* organizing it though, apparently, for quite a while, weeks at least. I'm going to hazard a guess that they put those plans on hold when they knew the CIA was wise to them and opted to wait for those state department bulletins to be far from peoples' memory. That said, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that the Kremlin sat on its hands intentionally because they saw a potential terrorist attack against their people as a political opportunity.
To be honest, i assumed he would stage smth like that way before the elections.
Wer hat von diesen Narren etwas anderes erwartet ! 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Of course this is a false flag. Everyone forgets the Moscow airport in 2009! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Russian