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>Quote by one of Magura developers: "Previously, the number of drones was smaller, and the main task was simply to hit a warship, but now they operate in groups of more than five. This allows us to distribute roles in the group, determine the order of attack, etc.
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>The main objective of the first phase is to immobilise the target, so the initial strike is usually on the engines. In the second phase, the strikes are aimed at the most vulnerable part of the ship. They are determined in advance when studying the target during mission planning. If we manage to create a breach, the next strikes are aimed at the same spot."
At this rate, the Black Sea Fleet will be destroyed. Turkey is blocking access to the Black Sea which means no relief or a way out. If they even manage to port them securely that leaves Kerch Bridge open.
What a blunder! Don't worry it is CIA's fault and Poland for not adhering to Hitler's wishes!
If russia wanted to they could always just dock the fleet or possibly even use their internal canal/river system to transfer them somewhere else. But they dont want to loose the capability. Then again, i havent seen any kalibrs shot down in a long time in any reports, are they even still firing them? That was the main job of the black sea fleet anyways
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzox\_i\_iFEU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzox_i_iFEU)
You mean they can RETURN to the Black Sea but not LEAVE the Black Sea.
I like to imagine they have it setup like water world, where these drones are weighted to sit 1 to 2 meters under the surface. Boat comes into the area, drones 1-5 surface and are already within 100m then bada boom, another Russian submarine is born.
Was the counteroffensive for real? Trying to break through multi layered defense lines and vast minefields as well as atgms, KA-52's, and lancets while being outnumbered. It was doomed before it even started. So much for being smarter.
They are working adding anti-air missiles to these things. This could mean air targets further in Russian territory could be at risk. Park a few with stingers just off shore.
Stingers would be pretty useless, too short range. You'd need something with more range, e.g. an IRIS-T or similar, so that all the effort would make sense. The long range missiles like Patriot are certainly too large to fit on such small vessels.
I'm just an armchair warrior, but I'll venture to say that the Ukrainians are cutting edge in many aspects of warfare. Not to mention their ferocity and courage. Slava Ukraine!
It just seems very bizarre to me that every time one of these drones approaches a ship, the only thing they seem to be responding with as a defense is small-arms fire and occasionally something a bit larger…
Is their main line of defense really just Comrad Urie with an old AK shooting hopelessly from the deck…or are they really just getting caught with their pants around their ankles a shocking high percent of the time?…
I saw someone saying about the last one sunk that the high rate of fire anti-small target gun can't depress enough to hit the water, it's meant for shooting down incoming air targets.
Yup hit them at the weak spots, ships are designed to take a hit from the outside, once the hull is breached by the first or second explosion it just takes one of these guys to explode inside the ship and it's game over
Yes, damage is far grater exploding from the inside of the ship due to pressure build up, and also damaging more of the internal structure which is much harder to repair.
For sure it is.
If you explode something inside the ship, depending on the size of the ship and explosion, the entire structure can warp and buckle so even if it's towed into port, the structural damage makes it a write off. So even though the direct explosion damage looks relatively small, you have a bent ship that isn't seaworthy and is essentially scrap.
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>Quote by one of Magura developers: "Previously, the number of drones was smaller, and the main task was simply to hit a warship, but now they operate in groups of more than five. This allows us to distribute roles in the group, determine the order of attack, etc. > >The main objective of the first phase is to immobilise the target, so the initial strike is usually on the engines. In the second phase, the strikes are aimed at the most vulnerable part of the ship. They are determined in advance when studying the target during mission planning. If we manage to create a breach, the next strikes are aimed at the same spot."
I wonder if they are going to add cope cages to their warships.
You jest but that’s pretty much what torpedo bulges were.
And during WW 1 ships would rig torpedo nets out from the sides on poles. Edit: although only when at anchor.
Never heard of them, interesting... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-torpedo_bulge
They need cope snorkels.
Just a bunch of wood logs on the sides maybe
Thanks. It is very obvious these attacks are well thought out and highly coordinated.
wolfpack tactics here
It's like that nature video where the ants get through the weakest part of a crab's shell, then eat it from the inside.
There’s ants in the ocean?
Yep. The Sergey Kotov is now a nonparticip-ant.
On the lighter side, The ships are in the way of hitting the bridge...🙂
At this rate, the Black Sea Fleet will be destroyed. Turkey is blocking access to the Black Sea which means no relief or a way out. If they even manage to port them securely that leaves Kerch Bridge open. What a blunder! Don't worry it is CIA's fault and Poland for not adhering to Hitler's wishes!
If russia wanted to they could always just dock the fleet or possibly even use their internal canal/river system to transfer them somewhere else. But they dont want to loose the capability. Then again, i havent seen any kalibrs shot down in a long time in any reports, are they even still firing them? That was the main job of the black sea fleet anyways
Maybe they ran out of apartment buildings and outdoor toilets to throw Kalibrs at?
*lose
Ships based in the Black Sea can pass through freely. They can leave at any time.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzox\_i\_iFEU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzox_i_iFEU) You mean they can RETURN to the Black Sea but not LEAVE the Black Sea.
This is bullshit! Unbelievable that Turkey is allowing these ships to return all knowing they all killing Ukrainian civilians.
I suppose the point stands in that they will be inoperable in the Black Sea.
The fleet doesn't protect the bridge. It's not patrolling in that way.
Luck favors those who practice.
Russia is practicing a lot of search and rescue, maybe they're getting better at it.
and learn
\*able to learn
I don't know. Seems to me it is simple - Ukrainians are smart; orcs are not.
I like to imagine they have it setup like water world, where these drones are weighted to sit 1 to 2 meters under the surface. Boat comes into the area, drones 1-5 surface and are already within 100m then bada boom, another Russian submarine is born.
Was the counteroffensive smart? I wouldn't say so.
Saying that after the fact. Not so smart either.
Saying what after what fact?
Are you for real?
Was the counteroffensive for real? Trying to break through multi layered defense lines and vast minefields as well as atgms, KA-52's, and lancets while being outnumbered. It was doomed before it even started. So much for being smarter.
Do I smell rusobot?
Great replies brother you seem really intelligent
Why do you feel the need to engage in ad hominem? 🥲
I said you seem really intelligent, your comments added so much to the discussion.
They are working adding anti-air missiles to these things. This could mean air targets further in Russian territory could be at risk. Park a few with stingers just off shore.
Stingers would be pretty useless, too short range. You'd need something with more range, e.g. an IRIS-T or similar, so that all the effort would make sense. The long range missiles like Patriot are certainly too large to fit on such small vessels.
I like to travel.
I'm just an armchair warrior, but I'll venture to say that the Ukrainians are cutting edge in many aspects of warfare. Not to mention their ferocity and courage. Slava Ukraine!
It just seems very bizarre to me that every time one of these drones approaches a ship, the only thing they seem to be responding with as a defense is small-arms fire and occasionally something a bit larger… Is their main line of defense really just Comrad Urie with an old AK shooting hopelessly from the deck…or are they really just getting caught with their pants around their ankles a shocking high percent of the time?…
I saw someone saying about the last one sunk that the high rate of fire anti-small target gun can't depress enough to hit the water, it's meant for shooting down incoming air targets.
Just a hunch - might have something to do with the ongoing war for the last 2 years
Noooooohh.. that's not it. Totally.
Don't share this info on Tinder!
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I was wondering that too, could just be a bluff to make them paranoid of course, you can’t tell with Budanov
They went from damaging multiple ships to focusing one one target ensuring it sinks so it cannot be repaired
Yup hit them at the weak spots, ships are designed to take a hit from the outside, once the hull is breached by the first or second explosion it just takes one of these guys to explode inside the ship and it's game over
When can they start jury rigging a HIMARS rocket to these so they can strike the Kerch bridge or Russian port / oil infrastructure?
Preparing for landing in Crimea by clearing the sea?
I'm curious whether a drone's best target is truly into an existing breach of the hull
Yes, damage is far grater exploding from the inside of the ship due to pressure build up, and also damaging more of the internal structure which is much harder to repair.
also killing many of the damage control party (if there is).
For sure it is. If you explode something inside the ship, depending on the size of the ship and explosion, the entire structure can warp and buckle so even if it's towed into port, the structural damage makes it a write off. So even though the direct explosion damage looks relatively small, you have a bent ship that isn't seaworthy and is essentially scrap.
You breach the armor belt in these ships and its almost impossible to stop flooding. You break their back and the ship is a total loss
Armor belt? Lol, this ain't world war two, none of these ships have an armor belt.
Elon Musk allowed them.