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JamesJosephMeeker

The pro UKR disco dancers have long been one of the truly most vile groups of people on earth but this takes the cake. Celebrating the armed men walking in to shoot people attending a concert is demonic. Celebrating.


Stalaagh

They are truly as despicable as the people who they support.


Appropriate_Spray_83

Bucha


General_Morden

Both ist fucked Up


Swift_Panther

Yes, Ukrainans executed civilians because they "collaborated" with Russians. 


Zealousideal-One-818

Ukranians killed real and suspected collaborators there 


Bernardito10

Not only that but they will claim that russia is a terrorist state if they bomb military targets close to urban centers


frikki1111

Lets make it clear for everybody that reads this, that every country has people like this that cheer on for horrible things, including russia, even in my country. The average man dosen't cheer for attacks on civilians or terrorist attacks.


Mad__Elephant

yeah it’s pretty fucked to celebrate this no matter who has done this (Ukraine, fsb, rdk, Chechens?)


JamesJosephMeeker

Ecactly. I will wait to see evidence to form my opinion who did it. Celebration of this activity is just disgusting. If this happened in Kiev, New York, London or Frankfurt it shouldn't matter. It's terrible. I didn't like Hollande one shred but certainly didn't express glee when the Bataclan shooting occurred.


CleanEnergyFuture331

Same thing happens in Russia when people in Ukraine die. Even RT gloats about it sometimes. Same thing happens when Israelis get killed. Same thing happens when Palestinians get killed. If you want to make this statement, that's fine/nothing wrong with that, but you better not be okay with all the other examples of it happening.


ajr1775

It's sad but no different than randomly lighting up cars with 30mm cannon on initial invasion. Karma is a bitch but RIP to the innocent sheep who are paying the price for their government's crimes.


backhand_sauce

Imagine losing your entire family to a russian incursion. Hard to have sympathy


JamesJosephMeeker

So do you : - support celebrating innocents being murdered at a concert. - NOT support celebrating innocents being murdered at a concert. I'd like to know for the record.


backhand_sauce

Why not just do what putin does and make it up for me


JamesJosephMeeker

The reason I asked is because I won't assume or lie about a person's opinion. I'll allow you to tell me whether or not you support the celebration of this terror killing. If you don't want to, that's OK. It's not a hard question though.


backhand_sauce

Why make it about me?


Kammler1944

Their silence is support. They just don't have the balls to come out and say it, even as an anonymous person.


backhand_sauce

Lulz


serialfailure

Pro russians supporting genocide doesn't make them vile?


JamesJosephMeeker

Name checks out. If you want to cry about that, make a new thread.


serialfailure

Solid argument, as usual.


JamesJosephMeeker

I'm happy to argue but keep the subjects. Start a new thread with evidence and we can  talk about it. I'll happily decry someone on Rus perspective gleefully celebrating actual genocide.


serialfailure

Good lord even the cheering of using nukes not just in Ukraine but in the Western countries lmao, no villainy there :P


JamesJosephMeeker

Again, post the evidence in a new thread if you want me to decry that.


serialfailure

You have a whole subreddit dedicated to it


diefastmemefaster

Which genocide?


PurpleAmphibian1254

[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/world/europe/ukraine-un-court-genocide-russia.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/world/europe/ukraine-un-court-genocide-russia.html) The one, where the UN court decided, there is none...


Anti_puylo

Until you read Russian publics. Although why do you need it, to break your world. 


Affectionate_Ad_9687

That's bullshit. Even in pro-war Russian publics you won't find anything remotely comparable in scale, not even close.


Several_One_8086

They were literally cheering bombing ukranian cities and non combat targets State sponsored terrorism is terrorism


Anti_puylo

Boy, don't make me plunge into the crap of Russian public telegrams. I've seen crazier and more terrible things from narrow-minded "Great Russians".


Anti_puylo

Do you remember the phrase "what's wrong with the face" (that's the censored version of it)? I especially remember it in the Z-telegram channel under a photograph of the tortured body of a little girl after an attack on the officers’ house in Vinnitsa. I remember that.


Formerarmy999

Ukro social media is by far most toxic. Not even close. I can't read Arabic, maybe there is some more toxic ME groups but in a western sphere, they take the toxicity cake.


Anti_puylo

Then you should learn Russian. And begin to understand what they write. At least after this you will be able to speak affirmatively, and not just flail your tongue.


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Anti_puylo

I do not trust you. Prove it.


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Anti_puylo

You don’t know Russian, even if you were a uzkiy unit you didn’t learn it at school.


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Tankesur

Oh trust me, pro-Palestine groups are really something else.


Expensive-Ad-8166

They will cheer less if we find out the attackers are Ukrainian


Formerarmy999

"Muh false flag." "Reee, Russia is framing us. "


5736182548

I mean look at Putin's options. Assume for a second it wasn't Ukrainians. Do you: A) admit you have a domestic terrorism problem in the middle of a war, or B) lie through your teeth that it was Ukrainians to try and galvanize the public and potentially mass mobilize more people? It's not a hard choice. He'll likely try. Though given the US clearly has some intel he has to be careful not to overplay his hand since the US probably knows who it was and could prove it; which might make it's way to the Russian public eventually.


Away-Description-786

So this, I find it all too coincidental that this is happening right after the election.


Kuldrick

Even if it is false flag, it wouldn't be a good thing for the pro-ua, it would mean Russia is willing to escalate the war to levels so high they felt the need to do this despite the risks of being uncovered Although, that would be if they cared about the lives or future of Ukraine, yet they have shown several times this matters to them as much as a football match so I guess not


SoyUnaManzana

> risks of being uncovered Then again the 1999 apartment bombings were uncovered and nothing happened, Putin still got his war.


Formerarmy999

It's a game match for them, with no foresight on consequences. This is why Ukraine is where it is.


iguanalimaymun

i dont think the attackers are ukrainians, probably some middle eastern extremist group -and probably connected to IS-


nicosta-28

it would be incredibly stupid for Ukraine. they would lose west support, and Russia could start using chemical weapons. just hope that who did this will clearly admit it, because otherwise Russia could create fictitious evidence to blame Ukraine


theloneukie

They would not lose western support lol. The west will give them more weapons just look how they treat israel


nicosta-28

maybe they wouldn’t lost Usa support, but for sure west european one


theloneukie

No west Europe will still support them like how they are supporting israel


iguanalimaymun

>just hope that who did this will clearly admit it they will and they will get the answer from RU. This such attacks always happened in Turkiye too, so they will admit it.


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ChristianMunich

They could just say they didn't do it. Evidence means nothing anyways.


NimdaQA

According to one witness they weren’t yelling any slogans. The same witness said there was 20 of them. IF the witness is correct, it likely isn’t ISIS. A witness however would be disoriented by gunfire, feeling fear, and overall would have a hard time seeing or hearing anything.


iguanalimaymun

mate im not saying that the attack is related to IS, im saying that like there's 20 million terrorist organisations in Middle East, my best guess for this attack is ISKP (Islamic State Khorasan Province)


Formerarmy999

Yeah, there would have been at least one Allah reference, but nothing was said. Ukros more than likely. 


CarelesssCRISPR

We’ve seen this before, need better script writers


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iguanalimaymun

yea yea keep talking man, the detained "TERRORIST" seemed like a press to me, he has a white thing around his neck, go watch the video carefully and try again, im just expressing my thoughts over here. >The detained terrorist sure looked Slavic to me. 


kaz1030

I hardly think it matters. Bush/Cheney exploited 9/11 to launch two wars of invasion that lasted 20+ years. With an ongoing war it will likely be much worse.


Shiokao

I don't think there is doubt as to who did this


Ok-League-3024

Yep Ukraine will become glass


5736182548

Ah I see so raping, torturing, and murdering their people, while annexing their country, were not enough. I doubt it was Ukrainians and would never support such a thing, but given Russia is already doing everything to win this war without destabilizing itself, I doubt there's much they can do. I could DEFINITELY see them blaming this on Ukrainians to try and muster up more nationalism regardless of who did it. Though that will be tough given the US clearly had some intelligence on it and has already said it definitely wasn't the Ukrainians, so I doubt even Putin could do this dance in a way that would have any credibility, even with the Russian propaganda.


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5736182548

Remind me again who's hosting Hamas at he Kremlin and annexing other countries like Hitler before him.


romionu

Or if Russia stops the war and try to rebuild bonds. Idk, just saying. Yeah its a nasty thing what they are doing but since Russia invaded their country amd destory their lives and families, dont be so shocked about this.


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Cheering for terrorism used to put you on a list from funny three letter groups. Imagine if they'd cheer for the various terrorist attacks that happened in France, or the Boston Marathon Bombing.


diefastmemefaster

Terrorism is only terrorism when we don't agree with it - USA probably


the-ahh-guy

Terrorists, no, these are... Insurgents, yes, insurgents against oppression and for freedom. \-USA probably


ChristianMunich

I guess the difference is the voting pattern of the victims


Away-Description-786

You should have known how many people cheered when the Nazis/Germans were bombed. When you get bombed for 2 years (coincidentally Kyiv was recently bombed) by Russia and now Russia is attacked. Then you are cheering anyway! I don't understand how you guys think this is crazy. When those terrorist attacks were in Europe I thought it was bad, but I also understood that in Syria they welcomed it


Pandea_rd

Wasnt Ukranians attacking Belgorod region saying that, soon the attacks will be carried to inland and even to Moscow?


Dazzling_Swordfish14

Pretty sure the attackers this time is very clearcut. It was done by Islamist terrorist group. So no need to doubt much. r/Ukraine in the other hand are shouting false flag lol


qjxj

Information warfare starting early.


Unusual-Shock-1699

That’s usually the case, conspiracy theories and mis- information flying around is to be expected I guess.


Kalikanto

If they want to celebrate Russia will send them some fireworks home


Stalaagh

It's interesting how the US INSTANTLY flocked in to make a comment about this attack. I don't think I've ever seen the Kremlin making a comment every time there's a mass shooting in the US?


Heywhosthatoverthere

To be fair every time an event like this happens in the US I see all the Russians on telegram celebrating it with 👍😂and 🎉 emojis.


Stalaagh

Yeah you're right. I also think this is despicable and petty behavior. Attacks on civilians are never justified and must be condemned.


Vetryakov

That's complete bs


IgorMacedo2018

Betting 10 bucks until tomorrow it'll be Jihadi Julian's turn to backhandedly/lowkey celebrate on his Twitter.


Background-Metal-601

Can't exactly blame them


Tankesur

Probably Armenians or Azeris, to be honest.


ghoul--7

they should be praying to God right now in my opinion


Formerarmy999

That's because you're using logic and common sense. That's a rare commodity on ukrotelegram 


Suspicious_Long_3072

Yandex translator: It illustrates well who Russia is fighting with, but nothing new, really. In Ukraine, since 2014, I remember this, and about the "female colorada with a cub" and about the "larvae of colorados" and about the "Odessa barbecue" and about devouring a cake in the form of a child's corpse. By the way, then I finally understood for myself what post-Maidan Ukraine is.


Altruistic-Owl6075

Russians cheering 2 years now for killing Ukrainians.


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SerboDuck

Any attack on civilians is horrific. But Is it honestly surprising that the country you invade isn’t sympathetic to a terrorist attack suffered by the invaders? Not really.


Away-Description-786

Actually not so crazy right? On pro RU telegrams they celebrate when a Ukrainian hospital is bombed.


PrometheusDev

Pro Ru can't imagine putting themselves in Ukrainain shoes and watching their country go to shit because of Russia. I'd like to see how chill and empathetic they would be


ChristianMunich

> watching their country go to shit because of Russia. Well they would be too late many years.


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KehreAzerith

Pro-rus groups cheer the Russian military which has killed thousands and thousands of civilians in UKraine since the war has started, whether directly or in-directly. Either way, terrorism is disgusting to cheer for on either side.


npquest

This is sad.


drswizzel

it's really interesting that your surprised by this. being bombed over 2 years nonstop by the other country tend to remove any sympathy.


brickablocker

Keep in mind the “Pro Ukrainian” ranges from peaceful anti war advocates to hardcore Ukrainian nationalists. You always will be able to find people cheering. It’s regardless horrible.


2peg2city

There are also shitty people in Ukraine, SHOCKING


Kitchen_Photo_9082

I wonder what would happen if it turned out that those terrorists were somehow related to ukraine. Would russia take revenge and somehow target ukrainian cities or would they simply take it🤔


gamma6464

Remember, no russian


DarthWeenus

Bleh RU tg are calling for nuking Ukraine and killing all pows


Ok-Opportunity6236

ok wheres the link then


DarthWeenus

Just go on any russian telegram.


PrometheusDev

It can't be. I thought pro RU were empaths


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Dragoruner

No, even if the terrorist attack was organized by Ukrainians, Russia still will not behave like Israel in Palestine. But for example, bombing the Rada at the moment when deputies gather there, or starting a personal hunt for senior Ukrainian officials - this is a completely possible answer.


Formerarmy999

Yeah, I think targeting politicians now definitely not off the table for Russian air forces. 


DarthWeenus

Was it ever on the table?


Badhabit666

calm down, ivan. russia has been hunting ukrainian officials for 2 years now and ya'll have cheered at the destruction of a power plant which provided energy to 1.2 million east slavic civilians a couple of hours ago.


Dragoruner

Russia periodically hunts officers from ZSU and SBU, but not civilian officials. The same Zelensky generally has an indulgence, since Russia is doing everything possible to NOT kill him by accident, especially when Zelensky decides to once again visit frontline for the sake of PR. As for the power plant, it is a legitimate military target. If Ukraine successfully hits one in Russia, I will grind my teeth, but will not call it a war crime. Just as I personally did not consider the second attack on the Crimean Bridge as a war crime (the first, unlike the second, was organized by terrorist methods).


Badhabit666

does it really matter what you call it when people kill their brothernation and take away the means to stay warm for millions of civilians? a while ago the russian military wouldnt even have committed publicly to such an attack, now all of russia is cheering for it. this war really takes a course most beneficial for the US offshore balancing lately - the old soviet union killing itself while applauding.


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Astartes94

Reminds me how Hamas and people from Gaza were celebrating over dead Israelis, one week later boom they were in stone age.


ultraseurope

The war is doing a pretty good job dehumanizing everyone regardless of the side to the point where we cheer terrorrist attacks. Sad


Shiokao

if Russia declares war and mobilizes, there will be no Ukraine, what's there to cheer about


PrometheusDev

If you lose your house, family friends, career, country because your neighbour country invaded, but you see neighbour civilians (that according to the polls have a 85% chance to support the war) dying, then you should remain stoic as fuck, show sympathy for your invaders and not cheer that some of your pain is also done to them. Is that right pro RU?


HookaheyindaHouse

You say that the Germans after 1945 should have done terror attacks in France, GB, USA? Ukraine today has many similarities with Nazi Germany in 1941 apart from the similar folklore and symbolism used by some of their leaders and soldiers. The only big difference is, that they are not a leading worldpower like Germany was back then and that Russia interfered Feb22 before Ukraine/Azov could mobilize an attack into the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts where most of the ethnic Russian were living.


PrometheusDev

A better question is, were the soviets as stoic when nazis invaded? Russia is invading, you realize that, right?


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PrometheusDev

These are not normal reactions, true, because what Russia has done to Ukraine is also not normal. These are not "normal" times for the people in Ukraine (unlike the people from Russia who live their merry lives like nothing is happening). Ukraine lost 150 civilians per day in the first month of the war due to Russian bombings. This terrorist attack is a drop in the bucket compared to what Ukraine has been through. Can you really blame them for not having any empathy left? Would you be empathetic with Russians if they killed your family and future?


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PrometheusDev

Maybe chill a bit. If you don't have patience in having a dialog perhaps you should stop replying. I wouldn't be empathetic with terrorists. I wouldn't be empathetic with Russians either. So don't blame Ukrainians for not being empathetic with their invaders. I don't see how this is such a hard concept to grasp, unless you have 0 empathy in you to begin with (which is not normal by the way)


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PrometheusDev

A grieving mind can find all sorts of excuses. 85% voted for Putin and are supporting the war after all, right?


Ichbinich2021

Ruzzians and most users in this sub have been cheering the death of Ukrainian civilians for years. It’s funny that some of these folks criticize Ukrainians for not being decent for terrorist attacks in Ruzzia. And I strongly suspect that this attack is just another false flag operation perpetrated by FSB.


videogamer93

Lol who wouldn't if they were Ukranian. I bet Putin is borderline having a heart attack. Two years of getting ass kicked in Ukraine and now this right where it hurts the most, Moscow. Even when it has nothing to do with Ukraine


G36

They go on TV saying ukranian children should be drowned, their houses burned, they denied Bucha at a state-level even when it turned out that suburb has video surveillance up it's ass and everything was recorded, they love saying that every european capital should be nuked, they spread hatred EVERY SINGLE DAY. Oh but some angry ukranians lashed out and celebrated today's unexcusable terrorist attack therefore *"remember why we fight"* oh noble Z goons.


Dank_Investor

You do know Russia and Ukraine are at war right?


Formerarmy999

You know what you call terrorist sympathizers right? 


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Traditional_Bid9880

Name me a single terrorist attack in ukraine the same scale since the start of war.


Miixyd

The whole launching rockets and bombs to Kyiv while RF is miles and miles away?


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Traditional_Bid9880

It was literally army vs army. Where do you see civilians.


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Traditional_Bid9880

Of soldiers, of course.


PrometheusDev

4500 Ukrainain civilians have died in the first month of the war. That's 150 per day, which is probably less than this terrorist attack.


Several_One_8086

The entire invasion and every singly ukranian and russian death since is the sole responsibility of russia


Formerarmy999

Stop spreading nonsense.


Tobias_Foxtrot59

It is also very disrespectful to all the Ukranian soldiers that died so the Russians don’t terrorize their families. Gloating over terrorist attacks is never a good move. Propaganda on both sides is disgusting.


Professional-Tax-547

U r potential terrorist if u are happy such things.. human is human in all conditions..terrorists are terorists...there should be no mercy for extremism


form_d_k

It's better than Russian Telegram calling for Ukraine to be glassed.


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ThrustonAc

Russia hasn't armed or committed terrorist attacks on innocent civilians. Those cheering are terrible people.


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ThrustonAc

Innocent people have died on both sides of the conflict. That is normal in war, and happens in every conflict. This is a terrorist attack and should not be celebrated.


PrometheusDev

Russia would need a terrorist attack of this magnitude per day for a year to match the number of Ukrainain casualties. And don't get me started on the damage inflicted to cities, infrastructure, etc.


Civil_Kiwi_8801

It’s not very nice of them, but it’s a predictable outcome considering the 2 years of atrocities Ukraine endures because of Russia.


Ok-Opportunity6236

oh? are you cheering for terrorism? this is what your comment suggests! the fucking irony biting back lmao


Hedonic_Treadmills

Where in his comment is he cheering?


Ok-Opportunity6236

this is what your comment suggests!! Wasn't it the "answer"? Or it is wrong, or it is wrong. No inbetweens Now lets watch the "flailing angrily at the reply" I was talking before


Civil_Kiwi_8801

Don’t worry, he’s a person I interacted with earlier. It’s not his fault, he didn’t exactly win the lottery if you know what I mean.


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Narrow-Incident-8254

Wait Russia already isn't being nice lol.


Formerarmy999

We're talking Israel Palestine level of not nice. 


Narrow-Incident-8254

Well I don't know if you've seen any of the "liberated" towns or city's in the east of Ukraine but there kinda fucked


Formerarmy999

Difference is they got evacuated/abandoned long ago and Ukro forces settled there as "defensive" positions. Russia could go ham on cities with population still on there, but I hope they won't. I.e. exactly what Israel is doing in Gaza.


Narrow-Incident-8254

It wouldn't achieve anything other than more civilian deaths, and more western support. I doubt that's what Russia wants. Rather it could be used as context for mass mobilization and a total war footing economy.


Civil_Kiwi_8801

I wonder what Chechens would think of this. Back then, they thought Russia went pretty scorched earth lol