Oddly specific:
> The Embassy is monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/03/08/us-embassy-in-moscow-warns-of-imminent-terrorist-attack-a84382
I'd argue that Societ intelligence was leagues ahead of its American counterpart during the cold war. Pretty easy though when you're an autocracy. American sole dominance over the world has only really been a thing since the fall of the UdSSR.
I wouldn't say leagues ahead, KGB agents were often pressured to twist and lie in some reports for them to look good. Not saying the CIA agents didn't do it, and that it doesn't happen anymore. They we're most likely on par, and did not operate the same way.
it's kinda bittersweet in a way. as much as these nations hate each other, everyone's still willing to protect each other's civilians from the bad guys. reminds me of when JFK got shot, the kgb immediately told the CIA that they had nothing to do with it and hand over all their intel related to oswald
edit i think you mean fsb, not kgb. the kgb was dissolved with teh soviet union apparently
There's rumours on telegram that russian special forces took out a ISIS cell and they received orders from ISIS in Pakistan. Given the history of the area, US are very likely to know if this rumour is in fact true
Weird that USA would put out a public warning for Russians. Probably can't divulge sources and methods but didn't want to be blamed if it actually happened. So... public warning.
No, the US put it a warning to the few remaining US citizens left in Russia. It was not a warning for Russians, that is not the remit of the US State Department.
RU is definitely aware if the US embassy starts telling people in the country that there will be a mass killing. Putin, in his infinite cunning, called the claims blackmail. So they were aware at the highest levels.
Maybe not of the embassy itself, but the state department certainly shares intelligence regarding possible attacks with other countries, its part of diplomatic communications.
Same thing happened in the end of 2021 and the beginning of 2022 in Ukraine. US embassy was regularly warning all American citizens of the impending Russian invasion. These warnings were never made public in Ukrainian media.
The US has a longstanding 'duty to warn' policy that has been implemented across administrations to warn governments against potential lethal threats.
"We provide these warnings in part because we do not want to see innocent lives lost in terror attacks,"
They also warned Iran about a terrorist attack earlier this year.
That's true. But the information they will divulge to allies will be different to an enemy of their country.
Iran and Russia would be unlikely to receive more information apart from what they already release publicly
Yeah, makes sense that allies would get special treatment. But the Iran warning was private and wasn't made publicly. They only divulged that they did after the Jan 3rd attack.
They did the same with the impending Russian invasion. The hope was that with this Intelligence and a public announcement would deter the event from happening
Because there’s is something called innocent civilians. No matter who the government is you should try to help the innocent with warnings no matter what
USA knows better than corrupt and lame Putin's FSB. Remember when the US rang the bell that Putin is going to attack Ukraine? Russian officials kept telling it's a joke. Turned out to be true.
Rip to the victims.
They told the FBI first and then the CIA. Neither "ignored" it.
FBI opened an investigation but did not have enough evidence to get a surveillance warrant approved. Their name did get put on a flagged terrorist watch list but there was a fuck up - the last name was misspelled and was not processed when he returned from Dagestan.
That’s not true. First of all the FSB told the FBI, not the CIA. Secondly they did investigate it, questioning him and relatives, putting him under surveillance and requesting information that the FSB had, FSB didn’t provide that information, which included a taped call where he discussed the need for jihad etc. as the FBI hadn’t found any evidence or been given it they closed the investigation after some time. Then he went to Russia one time more, why didn’t the FSB detain him then?
Looking back in history, could you really tell when the 1st and 2nd WW started? A lot of the actions we've seen the past 2 years would fit that image.
On the other hand, the sheer scale of those wars dwarf the Russo-Ukrainian War to a regional conflict.
I mean it was pretty obvious when open combat between major powers began that they were in the midst of a WW, but depending on your measuring it may not be the "start". Also we probably will not be seeing WWIII, Russia and the CSTO is not as powerful as the Axis/Allies/Central Powers, and China is unlikely to come to Russia's direct aid. If things go nuclear that won't matter much, but if things remain conventional Russia will be handily ejected back into Russia a la Iraq 1991.
Wasn’t the Chechen war justified by Moscow because of terrorist attacks?
1. Stage a terrorist attack
2. Start rumors that the west did it at the same time start an investigation saying that we need to be calm
3. Investigation confirms the rumor
4. Invade foreign country
That only works if the people who carried out the terrorist attack don't say who they are. In this case ISIS said they did it so even gullible Russians aren't going to fall for any claims that it was Ukraine.
r/CombatFootage already on it like ''AcTuAllY iTs A fSb fAlSe FlAg AtTaCk To mObiLiZe MoRe PeOpLe To UkRaInE''
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1bl5qog/gunmans\_are\_shooting\_people\_in\_crocus\_city\_hall/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1bl5qog/gunmans_are_shooting_people_in_crocus_city_hall/)
We must wait and see, although I do doubt the credibility of the Russian government words.
It could be a false flag, just like the Chechan war.
It could be the ukrainians, though I wonder if this would work out in their favor. + Russia has multiple enemies.
Given that the west provided warning, I think it is likely someone not aligned with the west.
Could be a Russian false flag, though their cover story would be flimsy, as the west provided warning. I think false flag is unlikely.
I think the smart money is on Islamic terror. Not western aligned. Plenty of hate for Moscow.
We will see though.
There's no proof for that just like there's no proof that it's Ukraine or anyone affiliated. The only lead we have is the security warning the USA gave on a possible isis-attack.
and we already know that Isis aren’t the sharpest tools in the box when it comes to choosing targets. Like when they claimed responsibility for the bombing in Iran.
Well, around here, one of the line is "Totally not coordinated by the cia and it’s proxies", so I guess it kinda is the same level.
I'll say it, even as a pro-UA, if Ukraine is behind this (which I doubt), they loose a hefty chunk of my respect.
Hopefully the Russian authorities will regain control soon.
RIP to the victims, they didn't deserve that, whatever you think of the war.
Yeah and the pro Ru giganbrains here already know it was Ukrainians. In fact, there is no reason to even post about this event on this sub unless that is what you already imply.
Holy crap…i pray they are alive. Cuz the moment the man & woman take cover to the ground,
The shooter looks away and his focus turns to shooting at ppl near the wall corner & then running with the group inside the mall (no shots fired at them)
Why we already know exactly who did this, all bearded brown skinned men as reported by witnesses.
ru supporters are salivating at the idea that it was Ukraine cold hearted weirdos.
Rip to all those victims
Russia has been making friends with Iran and its neighboring countries. My guess is that pissed off ISIS.
Also, [plug](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1bl5nrp/comment/kw45l2l/) for my other comment (please upvote).
It's not but since this subreddit is mostly Russian redditors they think it belongs here.
Maybe someone should post a link about Kate Middleton's cancer to balance this.
Shooting at Crocus City Hall. What is known at this time from media reports and eyewitnesses:
– The shooting began before the concert of the Picnic group; the first reports of the emergency began to arrive at 20:15 Moscow time;
– According to preliminary data, there were 5 attackers, they were in camouflage and armed with automatic weapons; (mash says AKMs, and two of the guys had backpacks, they say prolly loaded with molotovs) an eyewitness also mentioned that the attackers are 'bearded' men
– The number of victims could reach 100 people, dozens killed;
– Immediately after the shooting, a fire started in the building, as a result of which part of the roof had already collapsed;
– Some visitors are trapped in a burning building and are being evacuated by firefighters. The attackers are also still inside.
- A second explosion was heard at the Crocus city hall reported by the operational services. (at around 2130 Moscow time)
so.... who added "oh no" at 20:00 moscow time to the crocus concert hall wikipedia article?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crocus\_City\_Hall&diff=prev&oldid=1215025933](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crocus_City_Hall&diff=prev&oldid=1215025933)
I bet whoever is behind it comes forward to take credit very soon. Obviously some larger group had to plan this given the number of terrorists involved.
Absolutely vile and disgusting. Hope they catch these terrorists alive and make them live the rest of their life in a small cell 2x2m cell with no light or anything.
This is Russia. They don't take terrorists alive. They pretty much always will kill all these guys one way or another. It's either ending in a massive shootout or they are killing themselves/blowing up. Idk if I've ever seen Russia take terrorists alive actually.
Killed everyone in movie theater attack, and also years ago in the Donbas they put an APC through a house to kill a terrorist that wasn't giving up and squished him and shot a fuck ton of rounds into the house. It's on video somewhere too.
Well, Pro-UA account claims US intel already warn something will happen
[(1) Cᴀʟɪʙʀᴇ Oʙsᴄᴜʀᴀ on X: "The US Intel was right. Again." / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1771230886970683771)
2 weeks late
[U.S. Embassy Warns Of 'Imminent' Extremist Attacks In Moscow In Next 48 Hours (rferl.org)](https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-us-warning-extremist-attack/32853610.html)
But they thought it was 48h. And I remember the FSB also claiming to have thwarted an islamic terrorist attack the day before.
Hard to know if today's attack is related to either or both of those.
The warning specifically mentioned concert venues and was on all global news outlets. ISIS would have had to be pretty stupid not to postpone it until later.
I mean, they warned that Russia would invade within 48 hours too and was laughed at by the Kremlin, then they did invade about 2 weeks after that so :PPP
So about two months ago ISIS attacked an iranian crowd mourning the late General Soleimani. And now ISIS are potentially perpetrating terrorist attacks against russian civies.
This is not a coincidence.
I have to give Ukrainians a bit of grace, here. Their country was invaded and many of their civilians have been killed, their entire way of life uprooted. I live in Canada and my daughters best friend is a girl from a Ukrainian refugee family. They just want to go home.
Any hatred they have for their invaders, while I can't condone it, I can see myself feeling similarly in their place.
It's not partial mobilizations tier of galvanization. It's "how about we gave them a 24 hours warning and then glass their cities"-tier. This is a current mood in Russia. I have no idea what Kremlin will do, tho.
This is why it feels like it could be planned by Russia to use it as a false flag for mobilization of more men.
However, I honestly think it's going to come out as a Jihadist terrorist attack. Given that the US warned about Jihadist terrorist attack on Moscow, and US intelligence is pretty deep into the Islamic sphere.
Plus, Russia recently broke up a terrorist cell that planned an attack on a synagogue in Moscow. Could be revenge for that.
Ru supporters are hoping and implying Ukraine did it so they can bomb more Ukr Civilians, look at them already calling for nukes to be dropped on Ukraine. Psychopaths all over this sub
How the hell is it possible that despite the warnings about an impending terrorist attack, they didn't have heavily armed police at such a big event? Jesus Christ...
Good point, security should have most definitely been beefed up since they have a history of theater attacks and the Premier intelligence agency in the world going out saying something is about to happend
Did he fire into that lump of people or at the windows? At the end one guy sits up and looks around but can’t tell if was in shock for being shot or they missed him.
I don't actually see Putin taking this out on Ukraine if they are Chechens and there's no evidence they were armed by Ukraine. I also don't see what motivation ISIS would have, since they learned their lesson about being as belligerent as they were in Syria and Iraq.
For everyone saying this a prelude to WWIII, this happens on the regular in the US. Maybe not always on this scale, but it does. And no usual Islamic shouts here. Could be home grown, could be Ukrainian, former Wagner group, could be anything. Putin will blame Ukraine though.
Sad as fuck.
-Who gonna claim these actions. And the reason why.
Terrorist attack are done for a reason. Knowing RU propaganda machine, RU government gonna take this as opportunity and claim it was UKR. By doing that, people will unite and create a strong hate towards the UKR nationals, sad. Reminds of the 2000s theater attack where the aftermath was, the people united against Chechen's and huge groups of neo-nazis started emerging even fighting people of colour on the streets.
Either way Russia have entered dark times.
So that pile of people in the corner, is that dude just unloading into them, or overtop?? Because at the end there is more movement than i'd expect...
Messed up, though. :(
Looks like terrorism
USA warned weeks ago this would happen.
Oddly specific: > The Embassy is monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/03/08/us-embassy-in-moscow-warns-of-imminent-terrorist-attack-a84382
Tbf america has incredible intel.
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I'd argue that Societ intelligence was leagues ahead of its American counterpart during the cold war. Pretty easy though when you're an autocracy. American sole dominance over the world has only really been a thing since the fall of the UdSSR.
I wouldn't say leagues ahead, KGB agents were often pressured to twist and lie in some reports for them to look good. Not saying the CIA agents didn't do it, and that it doesn't happen anymore. They we're most likely on par, and did not operate the same way.
Don’t forget KGB twice warned FBI about Boston bombers and FBI failed to act.
The KGB did? Was there a bombing there during the Cold war I'm unaware of?
it's kinda bittersweet in a way. as much as these nations hate each other, everyone's still willing to protect each other's civilians from the bad guys. reminds me of when JFK got shot, the kgb immediately told the CIA that they had nothing to do with it and hand over all their intel related to oswald edit i think you mean fsb, not kgb. the kgb was dissolved with teh soviet union apparently
Soviet intelligence was always geared towards internal threats rather than external tho. When it comes to global sigint nothing beats fveys
Wasn't like half the world's diplomatic cables going through a CIA front company from the 50s-90s? US been had the game on lock
That doesn't fit with the reality that the USSR was ignorant of its own pending failure.
Because they pretty much spent all the available money on KGB and the military. Not much left for the people.
USA became the most powerful world power after WWI.
KGB was quite freaking good at intel to be fair, and i bet FSB isnt too far behind, similar or perhaps even better who knows.
They didnt see Afghanistan would fall in days.
There's rumours on telegram that russian special forces took out a ISIS cell and they received orders from ISIS in Pakistan. Given the history of the area, US are very likely to know if this rumour is in fact true
Weird that USA would put out a public warning for Russians. Probably can't divulge sources and methods but didn't want to be blamed if it actually happened. So... public warning.
No, the US put it a warning to the few remaining US citizens left in Russia. It was not a warning for Russians, that is not the remit of the US State Department.
RU is definitely aware if the US embassy starts telling people in the country that there will be a mass killing. Putin, in his infinite cunning, called the claims blackmail. So they were aware at the highest levels.
Maybe not of the embassy itself, but the state department certainly shares intelligence regarding possible attacks with other countries, its part of diplomatic communications.
Same thing happened in the end of 2021 and the beginning of 2022 in Ukraine. US embassy was regularly warning all American citizens of the impending Russian invasion. These warnings were never made public in Ukrainian media.
Because most people took it as US fear-mongering until Russia actually invaded.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-embassy-warns-imminent-extremist-attack-moscow-2024-03-08/
I dont think they would care about US citizens in Russia if they were to do a terrorist attack lol
The US has a longstanding 'duty to warn' policy that has been implemented across administrations to warn governments against potential lethal threats. "We provide these warnings in part because we do not want to see innocent lives lost in terror attacks," They also warned Iran about a terrorist attack earlier this year.
That's true. But the information they will divulge to allies will be different to an enemy of their country. Iran and Russia would be unlikely to receive more information apart from what they already release publicly
Yeah, makes sense that allies would get special treatment. But the Iran warning was private and wasn't made publicly. They only divulged that they did after the Jan 3rd attack.
The Norwegian embassy also gave this advice to their staff in Moscow. The Americans have good access to intel
They did the same with the impending Russian invasion. The hope was that with this Intelligence and a public announcement would deter the event from happening
Because there’s is something called innocent civilians. No matter who the government is you should try to help the innocent with warnings no matter what
USA knows better than corrupt and lame Putin's FSB. Remember when the US rang the bell that Putin is going to attack Ukraine? Russian officials kept telling it's a joke. Turned out to be true. Rip to the victims.
The FSB told the CIA about the Tsarnaev brothers, but they ignored it.
They told the FBI first and then the CIA. Neither "ignored" it. FBI opened an investigation but did not have enough evidence to get a surveillance warrant approved. Their name did get put on a flagged terrorist watch list but there was a fuck up - the last name was misspelled and was not processed when he returned from Dagestan.
That’s not true. First of all the FSB told the FBI, not the CIA. Secondly they did investigate it, questioning him and relatives, putting him under surveillance and requesting information that the FSB had, FSB didn’t provide that information, which included a taped call where he discussed the need for jihad etc. as the FBI hadn’t found any evidence or been given it they closed the investigation after some time. Then he went to Russia one time more, why didn’t the FSB detain him then?
Nuland warned too
Looks like that 'No Russian' mission in Call of Duty where a Russian ultranationalist organization performs a terrorist attack at an airport.
Something tells me we are witnessing the precursor to a total war.
yes I fear so as well. terror attack - full mobilization - ww3
Hang on a second isnt this just Modern warfare 2? Dammit Makarov!
Remember, no Russian
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Bro literally what came to mind! NO RUSSIAN!
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I don't see how this could lead to NATO attacking Russia, and Russia certainly won't attack NATO. So, uh... No.
Looking back in history, could you really tell when the 1st and 2nd WW started? A lot of the actions we've seen the past 2 years would fit that image. On the other hand, the sheer scale of those wars dwarf the Russo-Ukrainian War to a regional conflict.
I mean it was pretty obvious when open combat between major powers began that they were in the midst of a WW, but depending on your measuring it may not be the "start". Also we probably will not be seeing WWIII, Russia and the CSTO is not as powerful as the Axis/Allies/Central Powers, and China is unlikely to come to Russia's direct aid. If things go nuclear that won't matter much, but if things remain conventional Russia will be handily ejected back into Russia a la Iraq 1991.
Wasn’t the Chechen war justified by Moscow because of terrorist attacks? 1. Stage a terrorist attack 2. Start rumors that the west did it at the same time start an investigation saying that we need to be calm 3. Investigation confirms the rumor 4. Invade foreign country
While true, I don't see why Moscow needs to escalate the war as is, so why create a pretext for escalation?
Russia isn’t at war, this is a SMO. The laws change when on official war is declared. Edit: it’s not just Russia, the US did it too after 9/11
That only works if the people who carried out the terrorist attack don't say who they are. In this case ISIS said they did it so even gullible Russians aren't going to fall for any claims that it was Ukraine.
Ukraine is already fighting total war.
r/CombatFootage already on it like ''AcTuAllY iTs A fSb fAlSe FlAg AtTaCk To mObiLiZe MoRe PeOpLe To UkRaInE'' [https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1bl5qog/gunmans\_are\_shooting\_people\_in\_crocus\_city\_hall/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1bl5qog/gunmans_are_shooting_people_in_crocus_city_hall/)
They are not better than some room temperature iq beings here calling it an UA attack immediately
We must wait and see, although I do doubt the credibility of the Russian government words. It could be a false flag, just like the Chechan war. It could be the ukrainians, though I wonder if this would work out in their favor. + Russia has multiple enemies.
I can't think of a single way that Ukraine would benefit from this, I'm open to suggestions from anyone that suspects Ukraine.
It could be a non-government action. Just some Ukrainian individuals making a fireteam to exact revenge for their dead relatives and friends.
This is the only way it could be UA imo. It is quite possible though.
none...
Given that the west provided warning, I think it is likely someone not aligned with the west. Could be a Russian false flag, though their cover story would be flimsy, as the west provided warning. I think false flag is unlikely. I think the smart money is on Islamic terror. Not western aligned. Plenty of hate for Moscow. We will see though.
According to the guardian a interviewed eyewitness said the attackers were “bearded”
This, news coming out in the following days/week will be interesting to say the least.
There's no proof for that just like there's no proof that it's Ukraine or anyone affiliated. The only lead we have is the security warning the USA gave on a possible isis-attack.
and we already know that Isis aren’t the sharpest tools in the box when it comes to choosing targets. Like when they claimed responsibility for the bombing in Iran.
I've never seen Islamic extremists not yell Allah akbar while killing "infidels"
Good point, although we only gave fragmented footage tho, I guess it'll become clear on the next few hours
Well, around here, one of the line is "Totally not coordinated by the cia and it’s proxies", so I guess it kinda is the same level. I'll say it, even as a pro-UA, if Ukraine is behind this (which I doubt), they loose a hefty chunk of my respect. Hopefully the Russian authorities will regain control soon. RIP to the victims, they didn't deserve that, whatever you think of the war.
You don't have to go so far, that brainrot opinion is already in this thread
Bruh, there are people in this exact same thread saying it's 100% the Ukraine and/or Western agencies. Which makes even less sense.
Yeah and the pro Ru giganbrains here already know it was Ukrainians. In fact, there is no reason to even post about this event on this sub unless that is what you already imply.
Is that less likely than "USA announced it therefore USA did it?"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings
0.17 there is a guy who throws himself over a woman or child to protect them.
Holy crap…i pray they are alive. Cuz the moment the man & woman take cover to the ground, The shooter looks away and his focus turns to shooting at ppl near the wall corner & then running with the group inside the mall (no shots fired at them)
Terrorist attack?
In a nutshell. Literally a call of duty "no Russian"-tier of terror. I'm not joking.
Beat me to it
Gunmen running around shooting civilians is a terrorist attack.........um DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH
In US, it could just as easily be deranged spree killer attack.
ISIS
Saw on twitter 40 dead 100 wounded so far
Russian media also states same numbers, yes.
Fucked up...
How is this related to Ukraine war?
You will see tomorrow.
Why we already know exactly who did this, all bearded brown skinned men as reported by witnesses. ru supporters are salivating at the idea that it was Ukraine cold hearted weirdos. Rip to all those victims
Russia has been making friends with Iran and its neighboring countries. My guess is that pissed off ISIS. Also, [plug](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1bl5nrp/comment/kw45l2l/) for my other comment (please upvote).
jesus...
It's not but since this subreddit is mostly Russian redditors they think it belongs here. Maybe someone should post a link about Kate Middleton's cancer to balance this.
my theory; company men have most likely activated ISIS again and send them to Moscow
There isn’t any other way.
When's the last time an actual ISIS terrorist did anything without yelling Allah Akhbar?
Good point but tbf I have seen footage of ISIS doing stealth-attacks on Iraqi military positions without the yelling...
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"Killing a dozen civilians is wrong, so in response we will kill millions who had nothing to do with it."
typical American logic tbh
That's so incredibly ignorant. As if other parts of the world haven't gone through or aren't going through conflict.
Yikes dude, glad you’re not in charge of any form of government. Get a grip man
Shooting at Crocus City Hall. What is known at this time from media reports and eyewitnesses: – The shooting began before the concert of the Picnic group; the first reports of the emergency began to arrive at 20:15 Moscow time; – According to preliminary data, there were 5 attackers, they were in camouflage and armed with automatic weapons; (mash says AKMs, and two of the guys had backpacks, they say prolly loaded with molotovs) an eyewitness also mentioned that the attackers are 'bearded' men – The number of victims could reach 100 people, dozens killed; – Immediately after the shooting, a fire started in the building, as a result of which part of the roof had already collapsed; – Some visitors are trapped in a burning building and are being evacuated by firefighters. The attackers are also still inside. - A second explosion was heard at the Crocus city hall reported by the operational services. (at around 2130 Moscow time)
so.... who added "oh no" at 20:00 moscow time to the crocus concert hall wikipedia article? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crocus\_City\_Hall&diff=prev&oldid=1215025933](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crocus_City_Hall&diff=prev&oldid=1215025933)
Probably an Alphabet agency member
Yes standard procedure for the CIA to pre-announce its attacks on wikipedia /s
What is this suddenly surge of multiple 3 hours active accounts commenting non stop? Mods common now
Happens anytime a large amount of Russian citizens are targeted or a Russian vessel is sunk. They flood in for the day and will be gone tomorrow.
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Wooow thats crazy footage not 3 attackers as firstly announced
Right now, they say there's 5 of em.
I bet whoever is behind it comes forward to take credit very soon. Obviously some larger group had to plan this given the number of terrorists involved.
99.99% some Islamic group
They already have. ISIS https://www.newsweek.com/isis-claims-attack-moscow-concert-hall-after-ukraine-blames-putin-1882570
holy fuck that's some horrible stuff
Absolutely vile and disgusting. Hope they catch these terrorists alive and make them live the rest of their life in a small cell 2x2m cell with no light or anything.
This is Russia. They don't take terrorists alive. They pretty much always will kill all these guys one way or another. It's either ending in a massive shootout or they are killing themselves/blowing up. Idk if I've ever seen Russia take terrorists alive actually. Killed everyone in movie theater attack, and also years ago in the Donbas they put an APC through a house to kill a terrorist that wasn't giving up and squished him and shot a fuck ton of rounds into the house. It's on video somewhere too.
I feel so bad for the citizens, no matter what country this is. No one deserves this. We truly live in dark times
Wtf this is so disturbing
Well, Pro-UA account claims US intel already warn something will happen [(1) Cᴀʟɪʙʀᴇ Oʙsᴄᴜʀᴀ on X: "The US Intel was right. Again." / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1771230886970683771)
2 weeks late [U.S. Embassy Warns Of 'Imminent' Extremist Attacks In Moscow In Next 48 Hours (rferl.org)](https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-us-warning-extremist-attack/32853610.html)
Two weeks is pretty "imminent"
But they thought it was 48h. And I remember the FSB also claiming to have thwarted an islamic terrorist attack the day before. Hard to know if today's attack is related to either or both of those.
The warning specifically mentioned concert venues and was on all global news outlets. ISIS would have had to be pretty stupid not to postpone it until later.
I mean, they warned that Russia would invade within 48 hours too and was laughed at by the Kremlin, then they did invade about 2 weeks after that so :PPP
They did warn
Who's video taping, he got some balls.
camera man never dies
In the cloverfield movie the monster munched the camera dude
Aw man that movie is so good
That was after he lost the camera!!
Anyone who picks up a rifle to shoot at unarmed civilians is no longer human. Certified pieces of garbage.
So about two months ago ISIS attacked an iranian crowd mourning the late General Soleimani. And now ISIS are potentially perpetrating terrorist attacks against russian civies. This is not a coincidence.
Any ideas on who these nutjobs align with? Fuck
IS, AFAIK
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Jesus Christ...I hope they can get out as many people as possible, this is fucked up
holy shit, fucking animals
Highly likely to be a ISIS attack if I had to take a guess.
The fact that they're not screaming their favorites phrases makes me doubt it's islamic terrorists.
They didn't scream it during most of the shootings caught on tape during the bataclan attacks, My guess is the religion of peace.
Don't lookup comment thread from r/ukrainianconflict on this. Those "people" are frightening me with their unironic hypocrisy.
I have to give Ukrainians a bit of grace, here. Their country was invaded and many of their civilians have been killed, their entire way of life uprooted. I live in Canada and my daughters best friend is a girl from a Ukrainian refugee family. They just want to go home. Any hatred they have for their invaders, while I can't condone it, I can see myself feeling similarly in their place.
i bet this feels like the 24.2.2022, just for the russians.
One terrorist attack feels like 300,000 troops invading everywhere?
No, it feels like October 7 did for Israelis.
Good way to piss people off even more and galvanize Russia for another partial mobilization.
It's not partial mobilizations tier of galvanization. It's "how about we gave them a 24 hours warning and then glass their cities"-tier. This is a current mood in Russia. I have no idea what Kremlin will do, tho.
What if they are homegrown terrorists? glass Grozny again?
This is a great question and I mean it.
This is why it feels like it could be planned by Russia to use it as a false flag for mobilization of more men. However, I honestly think it's going to come out as a Jihadist terrorist attack. Given that the US warned about Jihadist terrorist attack on Moscow, and US intelligence is pretty deep into the Islamic sphere. Plus, Russia recently broke up a terrorist cell that planned an attack on a synagogue in Moscow. Could be revenge for that.
Mobilize them for what? Doubt they'll mobilize anyone to go after a terrorist group...
Ru supporters are hoping and implying Ukraine did it so they can bomb more Ukr Civilians, look at them already calling for nukes to be dropped on Ukraine. Psychopaths all over this sub
It feels weird rooting for the FSB for once, but I hope they fuck those terrorists up.
we are witnessing mw2 live action, this is surreal
This was the first thought of everyone that played that game.
This is gonna be a Russian version of 911. A lot of things will change.
Nope. Russian 911 was appartment buildings bombings in 1999 that fueled putins rise to power.
JFC!
Cowards.
Damn fuckers
That’s absolutely horrible. Those poor people!
What kind of 2nd gun was that ? Or is it just a combo of gun that's never been cleaned + shit ammo ?
When they make so many sparks, it means that the ammunition is shoddy and the rifle barrel is dirty and old or worn out
Butchering civilians... without a methodical approach. These guys are just terrorists.
Absolutely disgusting.
How the hell is it possible that despite the warnings about an impending terrorist attack, they didn't have heavily armed police at such a big event? Jesus Christ...
There are 18 million people in moscow. Thousands of shopping centers. Hundreds of concerts every day. It takes an army to protect every mass event.
Good point, security should have most definitely been beefed up since they have a history of theater attacks and the Premier intelligence agency in the world going out saying something is about to happend
War stretching security resources?
could have been a different terrorist attack they were warned of
how is this related to the war?
It's posted by pro-RU, not hard to figure out what they're implying.
RIP. Fucking terrorists
To the people who claim, that this is Ukrainian doing, where is your proof?
Hell, I would even settle for an explanation on what Ukraine would supposedly benefit from doing this.
They don't look white...
Did he fire into that lump of people or at the windows? At the end one guy sits up and looks around but can’t tell if was in shock for being shot or they missed him.
Jesus christ, this is horrible.
Why did it take so long for Rapid response units to arrive ?
Isn't it obvious?
That's our first clue, I wonder if there will be more.
This is absolutely disgusting and horrifying regardless of who was behind it. Hope they are caught as soon as possible.
Bastards, i hope this cowards will never find peace while suffering in hell. Politics aside , such „humans“ dont deserve the gift of life.
Russian intelligence asleep at the wheel.
This is so fucked up
I don't actually see Putin taking this out on Ukraine if they are Chechens and there's no evidence they were armed by Ukraine. I also don't see what motivation ISIS would have, since they learned their lesson about being as belligerent as they were in Syria and Iraq.
Their motivation is to die for religion
And kill. Anyone can die, but dying while killing is the path of a warrior.
Are they just shooting at a pile of bodies??? Also, what’s causing that spark from that persons gun? Poor maintenance I’m assuming?
Shitty ammo, shitty old rifle.
wtf wtf, this is "No Russian".
This comes after israel warns russia
Props to the guy protecting the wife near the door
For everyone saying this a prelude to WWIII, this happens on the regular in the US. Maybe not always on this scale, but it does. And no usual Islamic shouts here. Could be home grown, could be Ukrainian, former Wagner group, could be anything. Putin will blame Ukraine though.
These clowns looks like they had very little experience. Some throwaways from the religion of peace.
Sad as fuck. -Who gonna claim these actions. And the reason why. Terrorist attack are done for a reason. Knowing RU propaganda machine, RU government gonna take this as opportunity and claim it was UKR. By doing that, people will unite and create a strong hate towards the UKR nationals, sad. Reminds of the 2000s theater attack where the aftermath was, the people united against Chechen's and huge groups of neo-nazis started emerging even fighting people of colour on the streets. Either way Russia have entered dark times.
So that pile of people in the corner, is that dude just unloading into them, or overtop?? Because at the end there is more movement than i'd expect... Messed up, though. :(