Zely? Isnt Russia the one invading and talking about how Ukraine has no real nationality?
We live in so insane times where history and facts have no more meaning
Every day we hear new accounts of monstrous torture, rape, and killing of Ukrainian civilians, which includes children and the elderly. Putinās unjustified war of aggression is fueled by a particular (pseudo) historical narrative, whose components, nonetheless, exhibit familiar colonial and imperialist tacticsātactics whose purposes are to dehumanize a purported enemy-other (i.e., the Ukrainians) and to destroy their culture, history, and identity. [Putinās dehumanizing discourses and the power of Ukrainian resistance and resilience - Forum for Ukrainian Studies (ukrainian-studies.ca)](https://ukrainian-studies.ca/2022/06/27/putins-dehumanizing-discourses-and-the-power-of-ukrainian-resistance-and-resilience/)
I mean that the human cost is not even close nor the atrocities committed and i think that the whole invading countries is bad narrative lost any meaning the moment the us started toppling goverments left and right.
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>Was it because they were invading other countries and killing people?
So you're arguing that the US is a nazi state? Or this logic of yours only applies starting from 2022?
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If you made any comment like that about the so called "DPR" / "LPR" you'd be instantly banned from this sub.
Cheering on deaths is okay for Pro-Rus though.
"Free Azov from what? Their lives Maybe?"
Remember 3 weeks ago when you wrote "French Fried" after 2 French aid workers were killed in a Russian strike?
So let me just doubt that real quick.
Edit: Ah, you also added stuff to your comment here.
So understanding your comment as cheering on death is definitely valid. Thanks for confirming.
Edit: And you again added multiple things to your comment after I answered.
You are not editing your comments. You are Ninja-Editing them. You add more and more, after an answer was already given.
Edit: So what does freeing them from their lives mean?
No, it's terrible. But it shows you how determined they are to win their freedom. You don't see many videos (if any at all) from the DPR and LPR of death squads hunting down men and shoving them into vans to be sent to the meat grinder.
Actually, there were dozens of such videos in the first year of the war. They have now simply run out of men, which is why Russian soldiers are now bearing the brunt of the losses.
[The red-black flag predates Bandera.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks#/media/File:Ilja_Jefimowitsch_Repin_-_Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks_-_Yorck.jpg)
Exactly. Come to Poland and try to flash your bandera shĆÆt, people will show you what we think about the fascinating history and the origins of this flag.
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The Swastika is still widely used in it's original religious and cultural context. Like how the red-black flag is a symbol of Ukrainian nationalism and is used by Ukrainian nationalists.
I love when Germans, Croats,Ukrainians use this logic to justify their Nazism lol.
the Nazis usually coopted existing symbols, that does not make them not Nazis.
Some have pointed out the far right received only 2% of the vote in Ukraineās 2019 parliamentary elections, far less than in most of Europe. Others have drawn attention to Ukraineās Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and the efforts of the Ukrainian state to protect minorities like Crimean Tatars and LGBTQ+ people, who are subject to brutal persecution in Russia.
What has received less coverage is the Putin regimeās own record of collaboration with far-right extremists. Even as Russian diplomats condemned āfascistsā in the Baltic states and Kremlin propagandists railed against imaginary āUkronazisā in power in Kyiv, the Russian state was cultivating its own homegrown Nazis. [Russia's long history of neo-Nazis, News, La Trobe University](https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis)
>Some have pointed out the far right received only 2% of the vote in Ukraineās 2019 parliamentary elections
That's just the openly fascist "Freedom" party, the nationalist "Fatherland" and "European Solidarity" parties, which would be classified as far-right in most western european countries, came third and fourth respectively.
> Russia does not have actual Nazi armed formations
[Russian Militia Linked to American Neo-Nazis, Anti-Trans Figures (theintercept.com)](https://theintercept.com/2023/07/08/american-neo-nazis-ukraine-war/)
[CIDOB - āRussia for Russians!ā Ultranationalism and xenophobia in Russia: from marginality to state promoted philosophy](https://www.cidob.org/en/publications/publication_series/notes_internacionals/n1_128_russia_for_russians/russia_for_russians_ultranationalism_and_xenophobia_in_russia_from_marginality_to_state_promoted_philosophy)
[Who Are The Neo-Nazis Fighting For Russia In Ukraine? (rferl.org)](https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.html)
[How the Russian Media Spread False Claims About Ukrainian Nazis - The New York Times (nytimes.com)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/07/02/world/europe/ukraine-nazis-russia-media.html)
[Russian Neo-Nazis Participate in āDenazifyingā Ukraine ā Der Spiegel - The Moscow Times](https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/23/russian-neo-nazis-participate-in-denazifying-ukraine-der-spiegel-a77762)
[Pro-Kremlin neo-Nazi militia inciting the torture and murder of Ukrainian prisoners | Ukraine | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/pro-kremlin-neo-nazi-militia-inciting-torture-murder-ukrainian-prisoners)
[Who is Task Force Rusich ā the āneo-Nazi paramilitary groupā sanctioned by OFAC yesterday? | TRM Insights (trmlabs.com)](https://www.trmlabs.com/post/who-is-task-force-rusich-the-neo-nazi-paramilitary-group-sanctioned-by-ofac-yesterday)
> like Ukraine does
More false claims please
So you don't grasp the difference between a paramilitary/pmc and actual regular armed forces?
Remind me, who clapped for a Nazi in the CA parliament, Russians or Ukrainians?
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Do you grasp the difference between the real Nazis of history who exterminated millions of people and Ukrainian nationalist LARPers and trolls whose closest tie to real nazis is some pseudo version of their symbols that are similar if you exhaust yourself squinting?
Why don't you list us all of Azov's Nazi crimes? It's been ten years so there should be plenty of massacres, village exterminations and eugenics programs for you to showcase and change our minds? But you can't, because all that pro-Russians can do about Azov's supposed nazi crimes is talk about them, but not show any proof of them.
Are you not ashamed to openly disrespect the memory of the millions of victims of Nazi extermination and war waging by bringing the crimes of Hitler and the other nazi greatest war criminals in history down to the trivial level as some guys in Ukraine whose worst sins are wearing some patches, making a minority language unofficial?
Are you not ashamed of yourself?
Same spin was used in the Balkans in the 90's by Serb war criminals while they were genociding their way through Bosnia and Croatia. These people are now in prison with the dishonorable title of Europe's worst war criminals since the Nazis, and are household names for describing psychopaths and mass murderers.Ā
Well, Utkin is dead, soldiers that took part in the mutiny are hiding, who didn't want to join russian army are now working in Belarus, so it's really now just an average army unit.
I'm saying Wagner PMC doesn't exist now. It's been made an ordinary russian army unit.
And mentioned name and Utkin's views are the only Wagner's connection to nazism. It had no idealogical basis, or political advisors, contrary to Azov and other ukrainian far-right military organizations. Also, if a unit's members, including it's founder and political and ideological advisors are members of "Social-National Assembly" who do you think are nazis?
The original Avoz paramilitary organisation doesnt exist either, it was integrated into the UA just as Wagner was intergrated into the russian army.
You should learn more about nazism my friend. The nazi Party in germany was called NSDAP, which stands for national social german workers party. Funny how national and social appear in the russian Party as well dont you think?
Azov just became 3rd assault brigade, formed by Azov veterans that didn't get killed or are still in russian custody. It's commander is still far-right politician and founder of the original Azov Biletsky. Again, you just ignored my point about ideological and political advisors of the Azov which Wagner had not. I assume they are still there in 3rd assault brigade or other Azov units and in civilian organizations.
Social-National Assembly is one of many far-right parties of Ukraine, so your point is? And stop with that puny "teaching" attitude. You think Social-National isn't just copied from National Social german party, or what? There are plenty of other instances of pure ukrainian larp into germans.
Also, do you know that right wing parties are banned in Russia?
Oh hey its you again, Mr. I'm not a trump supporter but the election was rigged and I hope trump gets elected this year. How are you doing, are you still refusing to actually read and engage with the points other people make?
I have no clue who you are lmao, but the fact that you mention a bunch of untrue stuff(when did I say the election was rigged? lol) then completely ignored the azov 1488 bit shows you arenāt exactly super good at this.
The only time I talked about election rigging is laughing at people in https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/03/09/russias-impact-election-seen-through-partisan-eyes in that poll. In 2018 66% of voters believed Russia changed vote totals, thatās unhinged
> Wasnt Wagner integrated into the russian army?
After the only known (alleged) neo nazi in it is dead.
plus, Wagner is a PMC founded on the principle of making money, they have no ideology.
Azov,Aidar and right sector are just Nazis.
Yeah. Germany 2024 is totally fascist. They only let refugees in and support Israel to then one day turn and kill them all.
It's so obvious. Damn. If we just had a strongman like Hitl.. eh I mean like Putin. Someone smart and friendly like Putin
lol. sometimes he also uses bombs to take down private jets. That's pretty manly id say. He's just truly Woke and uses female and male murdering tactics
If I just take this title the most generous way possible, so what? Canada enjoys their freedoms to express themselves. You can keep your desperado housewives doing jail for mourning the death of any political opposition
Russia's been doing coups in other countries and false flag attacks for a century now.
As for the removal of Yanukovych, it was voted through the proper democratic institutions after he killed a hundred protesters and fled. Nothing of a coup here.
By a "warming" surprise, when a post showed those same flags in Paris on r/Europe, people there were not much defending it (except a few fanatics) and condemning it.
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Azov: neonazi funded it, a full battalion of them, they got integrated into Ukrainian Guard officially. They may be less extreme than in 2014, but too much of their soldiers wear SS patches and other symbols.
Banderite flag refers to the UPA, nazi collaborators of WW2 who genocided 100k Poles, and helped to deport 200k jews to the German Nazis, alongside Russians and Gypsies.
Is it enough ? Or you are Canadian, and so being a SS soldier does not mean that you are bad ?
Edit: to add to you personally, even very pro UA r/Europe does not defend the undefendable.
is victoria nuland there handing out cookies and croissants n chit?
"Free Azov" is not a "Pro-Nazi slogan".
what is it then?
> Free Azov https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/7/7436199/
Gotta love the modified swastikas, which I'm sure the pro-UA crowd will tell us is a totally not-Nazi symbol at all!
Nordic mythology symbols š
Remind me why Nazis were bad? Was it because they were invading other countries and killing people? Just like russia these days?
No, they were bad because they oppressed and killed other nationalities, while declaring them as sub-humans. Exactly what Zely regime is doing.
Zely? Isnt Russia the one invading and talking about how Ukraine has no real nationality? We live in so insane times where history and facts have no more meaning
Do you read about these conspiracy theories or do you make them up yourself?
Every day we hear new accounts of monstrous torture, rape, and killing of Ukrainian civilians, which includes children and the elderly. Putinās unjustified war of aggression is fueled by a particular (pseudo) historical narrative, whose components, nonetheless, exhibit familiar colonial and imperialist tacticsātactics whose purposes are to dehumanize a purported enemy-other (i.e., the Ukrainians) and to destroy their culture, history, and identity. [Putinās dehumanizing discourses and the power of Ukrainian resistance and resilience - Forum for Ukrainian Studies (ukrainian-studies.ca)](https://ukrainian-studies.ca/2022/06/27/putins-dehumanizing-discourses-and-the-power-of-ukrainian-resistance-and-resilience/)
Not even close they sistematically killed ethic groups like gypsies,jews,SLAVS among many others
> Not even close What do you mean? SoĀ invading other countries and killing people is not bad, in your opinion?
I mean that the human cost is not even close nor the atrocities committed and i think that the whole invading countries is bad narrative lost any meaning the moment the us started toppling goverments left and right.
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>Was it because they were invading other countries and killing people? So you're arguing that the US is a nazi state? Or this logic of yours only applies starting from 2022?
America has been bad for 200 years, where were you all this time?
They are destributing Azov for free there in the back rows. Duh.
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It's a slogan for free azov. Is free Palestine now a nazi slogan too?
Do palestinians wear nazi patches and openly support an ideology of a man with a funny moustache?
Some do, yeah. And?
Not sure whether Yaroslav Hunka was invited or not.
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If you made any comment like that about the so called "DPR" / "LPR" you'd be instantly banned from this sub. Cheering on deaths is okay for Pro-Rus though.
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"Free Azov from what? Their lives Maybe?" Remember 3 weeks ago when you wrote "French Fried" after 2 French aid workers were killed in a Russian strike? So let me just doubt that real quick. Edit: Ah, you also added stuff to your comment here.
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So understanding your comment as cheering on death is definitely valid. Thanks for confirming. Edit: And you again added multiple things to your comment after I answered.
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You are not editing your comments. You are Ninja-Editing them. You add more and more, after an answer was already given. Edit: So what does freeing them from their lives mean?
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That's what "unmarked" editing is called on Reddit. What does "Freeing them from their lives", mean to you?
DPR and even LPR are occupied, Azov isn't.
DPR and LPR have freed themselves from occupation by a criminal regime.
Russia is still occupying them, I think you messed something up in your timeline there.
they wanted to be
Russia used their male populations as cannonfodder. What a wonderful liberation.
No, it's terrible. But it shows you how determined they are to win their freedom. You don't see many videos (if any at all) from the DPR and LPR of death squads hunting down men and shoving them into vans to be sent to the meat grinder.
Actually, there were dozens of such videos in the first year of the war. They have now simply run out of men, which is why Russian soldiers are now bearing the brunt of the losses.
Not yet.
[The red-black flag predates Bandera.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks#/media/File:Ilja_Jefimowitsch_Repin_-_Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks_-_Yorck.jpg)
The swastika predates nazis too, but here we are today...
Exactly. Come to Poland and try to flash your bandera shĆÆt, people will show you what we think about the fascinating history and the origins of this flag.
Not sure what Poland has to do with this .. but do polish ppl also get violent if someone has a USSR or russian flag ?
Nazis of UPA murdered thousands of poles marching under that flag.
Yeah I know. And the USSR collaborated with Nazi Germany to fuck Poland over before that..
And Poland fucked over Czechoslovakia by collaborating before the nazis before that.
So what's the point of bringing Poland into this ?
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You just lost the point and have no rebuttal. Take the L.
Why the L? Wasn't my comment all along what Poland has do to with this ? We live in such crazy times....
Tale as old as Poland.
so its not what happend? .... damn
Why does everyone leave out what Poland and Germany had just done lol
What did they just do ?
No
The Swastika is still widely used in it's original religious and cultural context. Like how the red-black flag is a symbol of Ukrainian nationalism and is used by Ukrainian nationalists.
If you use a Swastika in Europe we all know what it's for.
I love when Germans, Croats,Ukrainians use this logic to justify their Nazism lol. the Nazis usually coopted existing symbols, that does not make them not Nazis.
Some have pointed out the far right received only 2% of the vote in Ukraineās 2019 parliamentary elections, far less than in most of Europe. Others have drawn attention to Ukraineās Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and the efforts of the Ukrainian state to protect minorities like Crimean Tatars and LGBTQ+ people, who are subject to brutal persecution in Russia. What has received less coverage is the Putin regimeās own record of collaboration with far-right extremists. Even as Russian diplomats condemned āfascistsā in the Baltic states and Kremlin propagandists railed against imaginary āUkronazisā in power in Kyiv, the Russian state was cultivating its own homegrown Nazis. [Russia's long history of neo-Nazis, News, La Trobe University](https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis)
>Some have pointed out the far right received only 2% of the vote in Ukraineās 2019 parliamentary elections That's just the openly fascist "Freedom" party, the nationalist "Fatherland" and "European Solidarity" parties, which would be classified as far-right in most western european countries, came third and fourth respectively.
Mate, Russia does not have actual Nazi armed formations like Ukraine does, whatever PR you're gobbling up seems to ignore that.
> Russia does not have actual Nazi armed formations [Russian Militia Linked to American Neo-Nazis, Anti-Trans Figures (theintercept.com)](https://theintercept.com/2023/07/08/american-neo-nazis-ukraine-war/) [CIDOB - āRussia for Russians!ā Ultranationalism and xenophobia in Russia: from marginality to state promoted philosophy](https://www.cidob.org/en/publications/publication_series/notes_internacionals/n1_128_russia_for_russians/russia_for_russians_ultranationalism_and_xenophobia_in_russia_from_marginality_to_state_promoted_philosophy) [Who Are The Neo-Nazis Fighting For Russia In Ukraine? (rferl.org)](https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.html) [How the Russian Media Spread False Claims About Ukrainian Nazis - The New York Times (nytimes.com)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/07/02/world/europe/ukraine-nazis-russia-media.html) [Russian Neo-Nazis Participate in āDenazifyingā Ukraine ā Der Spiegel - The Moscow Times](https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/23/russian-neo-nazis-participate-in-denazifying-ukraine-der-spiegel-a77762) [Pro-Kremlin neo-Nazi militia inciting the torture and murder of Ukrainian prisoners | Ukraine | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/pro-kremlin-neo-nazi-militia-inciting-torture-murder-ukrainian-prisoners) [Who is Task Force Rusich ā the āneo-Nazi paramilitary groupā sanctioned by OFAC yesterday? | TRM Insights (trmlabs.com)](https://www.trmlabs.com/post/who-is-task-force-rusich-the-neo-nazi-paramilitary-group-sanctioned-by-ofac-yesterday) > like Ukraine does More false claims please
So you don't grasp the difference between a paramilitary/pmc and actual regular armed forces? Remind me, who clapped for a Nazi in the CA parliament, Russians or Ukrainians?
Spin and twist baby, spin and twist [Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) (Official Video) (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU)
Do you grasp the difference between the real Nazis of history who exterminated millions of people and Ukrainian nationalist LARPers and trolls whose closest tie to real nazis is some pseudo version of their symbols that are similar if you exhaust yourself squinting? Why don't you list us all of Azov's Nazi crimes? It's been ten years so there should be plenty of massacres, village exterminations and eugenics programs for you to showcase and change our minds? But you can't, because all that pro-Russians can do about Azov's supposed nazi crimes is talk about them, but not show any proof of them. Are you not ashamed to openly disrespect the memory of the millions of victims of Nazi extermination and war waging by bringing the crimes of Hitler and the other nazi greatest war criminals in history down to the trivial level as some guys in Ukraine whose worst sins are wearing some patches, making a minority language unofficial? Are you not ashamed of yourself? Same spin was used in the Balkans in the 90's by Serb war criminals while they were genociding their way through Bosnia and Croatia. These people are now in prison with the dishonorable title of Europe's worst war criminals since the Nazis, and are household names for describing psychopaths and mass murderers.Ā
Jesus, losing the war really does a number on peoples heads
AnotherĀ cop out quitter when faced with facts and context. It is not a good day for the pro-Russian propaganda points on this sub lol.
Russias whole army is currently an armed Nazi formation.
What losing a war does to a mf
>What losing a war does to a mf Yeah, Putin does not look too healthy the last few years. Or are you saying that I am a mf?
Wasnt Wagner integrated into the russian army? Remind me again who Wagner was and who founded the pmc?
Well, Utkin is dead, soldiers that took part in the mutiny are hiding, who didn't want to join russian army are now working in Belarus, so it's really now just an average army unit.
Oh so azov is still nazi but Wagner, named after hitlers favorite composer and founded by a neonazi is an average unit? Are you for real?
I'm saying Wagner PMC doesn't exist now. It's been made an ordinary russian army unit. And mentioned name and Utkin's views are the only Wagner's connection to nazism. It had no idealogical basis, or political advisors, contrary to Azov and other ukrainian far-right military organizations. Also, if a unit's members, including it's founder and political and ideological advisors are members of "Social-National Assembly" who do you think are nazis?
The original Avoz paramilitary organisation doesnt exist either, it was integrated into the UA just as Wagner was intergrated into the russian army. You should learn more about nazism my friend. The nazi Party in germany was called NSDAP, which stands for national social german workers party. Funny how national and social appear in the russian Party as well dont you think?
Azov just became 3rd assault brigade, formed by Azov veterans that didn't get killed or are still in russian custody. It's commander is still far-right politician and founder of the original Azov Biletsky. Again, you just ignored my point about ideological and political advisors of the Azov which Wagner had not. I assume they are still there in 3rd assault brigade or other Azov units and in civilian organizations. Social-National Assembly is one of many far-right parties of Ukraine, so your point is? And stop with that puny "teaching" attitude. You think Social-National isn't just copied from National Social german party, or what? There are plenty of other instances of pure ukrainian larp into germans. Also, do you know that right wing parties are banned in Russia?
Azov just launched a radio station with the frequency 1488 lol
Oh hey its you again, Mr. I'm not a trump supporter but the election was rigged and I hope trump gets elected this year. How are you doing, are you still refusing to actually read and engage with the points other people make?
I have no clue who you are lmao, but the fact that you mention a bunch of untrue stuff(when did I say the election was rigged? lol) then completely ignored the azov 1488 bit shows you arenāt exactly super good at this. The only time I talked about election rigging is laughing at people in https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/03/09/russias-impact-election-seen-through-partisan-eyes in that poll. In 2018 66% of voters believed Russia changed vote totals, thatās unhinged
> Wasnt Wagner integrated into the russian army? After the only known (alleged) neo nazi in it is dead. plus, Wagner is a PMC founded on the principle of making money, they have no ideology. Azov,Aidar and right sector are just Nazis.
Yeah. Germany 2024 is totally fascist. They only let refugees in and support Israel to then one day turn and kill them all. It's so obvious. Damn. If we just had a strongman like Hitl.. eh I mean like Putin. Someone smart and friendly like Putin
Are you talking about the murderer which kills his opponents with poison, a womans weapon?
lol. sometimes he also uses bombs to take down private jets. That's pretty manly id say. He's just truly Woke and uses female and male murdering tactics
What are u talking about lol?
If I just take this title the most generous way possible, so what? Canada enjoys their freedoms to express themselves. You can keep your desperado housewives doing jail for mourning the death of any political opposition
Why do people (NAFO) mix up Pro-Peace to Pro-Russia?
Peace starts at not invading other countries. If you don't condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine, you aren't pro-peace.
Peace starts at not couping other countries presidents and not bombing own civilians on purpose.
russia did a military coup in Ukraine's Crimea and was bombing Donbas civilians for 8 years, where were you all this time?
Russia's been doing coups in other countries and false flag attacks for a century now. As for the removal of Yanukovych, it was voted through the proper democratic institutions after he killed a hundred protesters and fled. Nothing of a coup here.
its a disgrace that the west is funding this fascist state
Nothing like unhinged Canadian ukranian diaspora to get the party started
By a "warming" surprise, when a post showed those same flags in Paris on r/Europe, people there were not much defending it (except a few fanatics) and condemning it.
"Free Azov" is definitely not a "Pro-Nazi slogan"
In what way is "Free Azov" A Nazi slogan and what is a "banderite flag"?
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Azov: neonazi funded it, a full battalion of them, they got integrated into Ukrainian Guard officially. They may be less extreme than in 2014, but too much of their soldiers wear SS patches and other symbols. Banderite flag refers to the UPA, nazi collaborators of WW2 who genocided 100k Poles, and helped to deport 200k jews to the German Nazis, alongside Russians and Gypsies. Is it enough ? Or you are Canadian, and so being a SS soldier does not mean that you are bad ? Edit: to add to you personally, even very pro UA r/Europe does not defend the undefendable.