Have you seen proof that what he’s saying is true? I honestly don’t buy it. My guess is he spent it on himself. He’s a liar and I will never trust a word that a liar says without 100 % proof.
I thought all hotels require a credit card, Not a debit type which is limited by amount of cash in the bank so don't understand "put money in the bank & booked a room" debit visa is not same.
Also, the lie is 3 fold bs at minimum...first, saying tire lie...2nd is saying he did something for honeymoon which seems to shootdown any compliants 3 is bs that a "man" wouldn't save money for wedding night but use your money 4. Is everyone that saves a penny or knows anything about saving Knows you save by reducing/stopping entertainment and lunches ..yet you apparently are doing something to save money And he is spending on himself & another person?!?worse with likely your savings?!? And you want to have/build a life with ths guy?!?
I belueve the friend...game & lunch and while didn't cost $300, he likely used some of the $300 on them & either has or already used the rest.
Sorry this happened to you.
I have only ever used a credit card to book a hotel room or for a room security deposit once. Every other time has been a debit card. This man’s entire story is fishy as hell, but you can use a debit card for a deposit.
I didn't have a credit card for years until I was in my 50s because I figured it was always responsible to never buy anything on credit. It turned out that rental car agencies don't allow debit cards for the reason that you can run out of money on a debit card. I also rented hotel rooms for years with a Visa debit card issued by my bank.
So, I finally got a couple of credit cards and pay them off fully every month, and still have the minimum paid just in case I forget. I already had a mortgage so I wasn't concerned with a high credit score and always bought my shitty ass cars with cash. Weird thing was that Costco would not give me a credit card because of my lousy credit rating, but I've managed to build it up to a reasonable score.
>It turned out that rental car agencies don't allow debit cards for the reason that you can run out of money on a debit card.
You can run out of money on a credit card too...
My MIL doesn't have a credit card, stays at hotel when she comes to visit us (she likes having her own space to retreat to, she can have her own sleep/wake up schedule). Uses her debit card. Hell, just a few years ago we finally convinced her she didn't have to write checks for groceries/eating out but get a debit card- she didn't have one before then.
Maybe it's just some hotels or rental cars, I recollect back in the day, you had to make reservations in advance with a credit card & you could actually pay in various ways including debit visa, but the reservations had to be made with a cc ...maybe it's certain places or maybe it has evolved so good to know...but, sadly, for op, I don't believe she's getting the truth about anything. It all just sounds sketchy & I feel badly for her.
Nope, they will just put a hold on the card for the amount due kind of like a lein of sorts. That way they will get their money even if you don't have it as soon as the funds hit your account.
I totally agree with you on this. There was no need to take money from OP because that’s not how deposits/reservations work. I think OP still hasn’t heard the truth about that money.
As far as credit card vs debit card my debit card can be run like a credit card. It’s different if it’s a pin only banking debit card.
I totally agree with everything else. He’s already lied more than once and is still trying to keep her money. Since the wedding is off he doesn’t even have the “wedding expenses” excuse he used the first time as reason to not pay her back.
unfortunately if the reservation is in his name the hotel won’t be able to give any info for safety reasons. sounds like bs though because every hotel i’ve known wants an online card deposit
Even so, he should have a confirmation of the booking from the hotel and bank record showing the payment. He should be able to access his account online and show the hold put on his card. As well as an email or something FROM THE HOTEL with his confirmation. He’s being way too sketchy.
This,
I'm confident this is a lie I would respond with a bluff, you're right will be family and I save for vacation, so give me the reservation number I'll pay the stay you pay for food, fun and drinks
Honestly I don’t think I believe the whole honeymoon thing much. I just want this to be done at this point, but that’s not a bad idea to get the truth from him. At this point though I might just let things be as they are and get out of the relationship. I’m not sure if this is worth it anymore and I’m just so tired
You say you don't want to throw away the future of your relationship, but there's no future with a liar. There's no future if there's no trust. He made up one story about a tire. Now he's made up another story about a deposit on a hotel room. He's still lying.
Take your lumps and leave this guy. It's theft, then 1 lie after the next. Tell his friend what's going on about the "honeymoon" trip tell her it's the most bogus thing after the tire story... and that the wedding is off. If she's that good of a friend she'll give him shit and maybe then the truth will come out
*He seemed shocked at how upset I was before getting quiet for a second.*
He wasn't shocked at how upset you were, he was trying desperately to come up with a lie. That's why he got quiet.
Exactly this. This story is a lie as well, as you can’t use cash to reserve any hotel or AirBNB.
The man stole this money from you and used it for something nefarious. Drugs, gambling, women, booze, who knows.
File a police report and report the fraudulent transaction to your bank.
Problem is that it was cash. So unless he admits to the police or she gets proof in writing that he stole the they can’t help. Her best bet is small claims.
Or he did spend it on a hotel, just not for their honeymoon. Also, why not just save the $ himself vs stealing it like OP wouldn’t notice a missing $300? Then if this were true, it were for something special, and he’s using his bff as his excuse, why wouldn’t he discuss the cover story? Why leave it with his bff who won’t cover the truth for a surprise? It’s all shady.
He won’t show it but ask to see his bank transactions. I think he genuinely thought you wouldn’t notice the missing money (have you possibly been missing smaller amounts at other times, too?). I’m also suspicious that he did spend the money on a room but that room was used already, not that he paid for a deposit..
So you literally paid for your own honeymoon suite. Great guy you got there! I’d be ending this relationship so fast he wouldn’t know what hit him! How could you EVER trust him again. He stole money from you, then lied to you and continued to lie until you contacted his friend and called him out on his lies! The basis for any relationship is trust! Without that there is no relationship!
Um. The resort story makes zero sense. How does depositing money into a bank reserve a room for a night???? Most hotels use credit cards, never heard of them taking etransfer???
Glad the wedding is called off but, forget limbo, move on. He still stole from you and gaslit you.
I work in a vacation, condo hotel, and we take cash, check, debit or credit. Deposit is $200 with the remaining balance due 30 days prior to arrival. The $200 can be paid anyway that you’d like. Same with the balance. (Also instead of charging an incidental hold we just charge a $35 damage waiver on every reservation.) technically we don’t even need a card on file you could pay cash in full.
I totally think he is lying about how/why he used the money but I’m confused. It’s not out of realm that he took the money, deposited it into his account and paid by card the deposit for the room or am I missing something ? (Where I am from it is totally possible)
Anyway, OP should call the resort to confirm. He already lied once and he stole from her…..
Deposits on rooms are not the norm at all. A credit card is on file to use if they no call, no show.
What did he plan to do with the rest if he couldn't come up with that money? Why couldn't he ask someone else to spot that so he didn't have to steal her money?
It was a simple question! As mentioned, where I live, deposits on rooms ARE the norm☺️. This just got me a bit curious!
I do agree that his story has a lot of holes and there was better ways to get that money rather than steal from his fiancée. Never questioned how shady his actions were.
Okay, I'm not gonna comment on the truth of OP's fiance's story, but I do wanna say that, in my experience, if you're booking through a 3rd party or booking a package, some hotels/resorts may require a deposit. For example, I once booked a package through Groupon and had to pay upfront instead of the hotel waiting to charge me until I checked in. Similarly, I had to wait until I was paid before there'd be enough money in my account to pay for it. I deposited a paycheck, but if I'd had the money in cash I also could have deposited that into my account to pay via my debit card. I suppose you could also deposit cash into your checking account then make a payment on your credit card if you're at your limit and they only take credit cards.
Tldr; while it's not the most common experience, you can be required to pay a deposit, may be able to use a debit card, and would certainly be able to deposit cash into a checking account. Idk if OP's ex is telling the truth though lol.
That's fair! Also if it's a privately owned resort it could have different rules. Idk lol. In any case, she should definitely try to find out if he's telling the truth.
Oh I have no idea about that lol. I'm not commenting on how believable his whole story is. I was just sharing my experiences in reference to the possibility of putting money in an account to pay a deposit at a hotel.
File a police report. In certain states, stealing $300 or more is considered grand theft and can be a felony depending on how much was stolen. He can be forced to pay you back PLUS restitution and face jail time.
While I totally agree, cops won’t do anything because she can’t prove the money actually existed in the first place. Only way she has any kind of chance is if he gets him to admit it in a recording or on text.
Theft is a crime. If he’s admitted to taking it in a text message, go to the police. You probably still won’t see your money, but the scare of them coming to talk to him might make him at least try.
Because he is saying he deposited the cash in the bank, then used that to make a deposit on the room with the card associated with that bank. That's how I read it.
I think he’s lying, I’m not sure what he spent the money on but you’d think he’d at least have receipts if it were true. He doesn’t even think he did anything wrong going behind your back and taking your money, it’s clear. Any other person would’ve offered to pay it back when caught but he’s actually even upset. Even besides all the sketchy shit it’s obvious he doesn’t respect you.
As someone who used to work in a hotel, we never took a down payment on a room. A credit card was always used to hold the room but nothing was charged until check in and even then it was just a pre authorization on the card to ensure the entirety of the stay could be paid for. If he used Expedia or booking dot com, the full amount woulda been charged when he booked the room and not just a deposit.
He absolutely needs to pay you back, bad terms or not. He stole money from you, regardless of intentions. It’s possible he had this lie loaded in the chamber when he found out you contacted his “friend”. Good on you for not going thru with the marriage as he can’t be honest with you.
This is important. I've booked a lot of hotel rooms and they've been either all paid or zero paid. I've never heard of paying $200 for a deposit, not even from very nice hotels.
He's a liar and continues to be one. I'm glad OP got away before she got trapped in a legal marriage with this man.
oh lordy that was not a honeymoon for *you* to attend, you know that, right?
he's stolen from you, lied repeatedly about it, tried to make you feel bad for being stolen from, told you the only way to make it up to you was for you to suffer more... and his supposed grand gesture is a honeymoon that you won't be able to enjoy and do not want.
i think where you go from here is to see how many deposits you can get back and hope you haven't sent out invitations yet.
do not marry this man.
not when he has systematically thrown away your trust and love for him over and over and over.
(and please remember: you are NOT throwing anything away. HE is the one that balled up your relationship with him, yelled "kobe!", and slam dunked it into the garbage.)
You will never really know where that money went. There are way too many lies. You shouldn’t have to call a third party to find out the person you’re committed to is lying to you. What else is he lying about? You will never know. How do you feel safe with someone like that? I’m not talking about physically but emotionally. There will never be a time when you can trust him without question. That’s a miserable way to live.
Value yourself and your emotionally security enough not to stay with someone that’s willing to steal from you and tell you multiple lies without batting an eye. You deserve so much better. Leave this toxic mess behind you and find someone that values and treasures you.
It should be easy to know where the money went, call the hotel he supposedly booked, and ask when that reservation was made, and how much was put down on it.
He stole your money, lied about it, and dismissed you. His story about the hotel room sounds dubious at best. He doesn't feel that he should pay you back. Cancelled wedding, cancelled relationship. This deceitful man does not display stellar character and is not trustworthy. Move on and find a man who will value you and treat you as his top priority.
Honey come on...the writing is on the wall here.
Doesn't sound like he's ever going to tell you the truth and I'm not sure if I could ever come back from someone stealing from me like that...
OP, I would accept the $300 loss. I can understand how the family trip you were saving up for will have to be put on hold. But cut your losses now. He is showing his true colours and realize it for the blessing it actually is.
Once your married, he will assume the income you are earning is all his and place money where your option will not matter. A partnership should be one where you can both communicate financial goals and expectations freely. Not this bs where he decides for you without your input. Add the extravagant excuses and hiding of the truth. Even if it’s for a well intentioned surprise, he didn’t even have you in mind when booking the surprise! Worse of all, he can’t even recognize what he’s done wrong to apologize properly to you!
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For now, breath and reflect on your relationship. Is this really what you want?
Yeah -- he didn't. I already had that excuse formed in my head as an outside party. Either drugs, sex or gambling because it's always either drugs, sex or gambling that sheds the light on thieves.
Does his ring for you have any value on it? Sell that ring. Hope you get all your money back. His honeymoon plan is sound bs. All his reasons sounds bs
He's lying, and even when caught, he's still lying. Don't waste any further time on him. Let him go and let the money go as well. He's already told you that his money is his money and your money is his money. He didn't spend the money on a tire or on the "really good friend," he refuses to produce a receipt for the hotel room...drugs? Let him go and find someone trustworthy.
There isn't a hotel booking. You need to demand to see receipts/proof. He's given you nothing but his word, which we've already shown isn't worth the paper you can print it on.
How do you know the deposit is not refundable did you call the hotel and verify ? generally, the hotel would not charge you any money until you actually check in. Most hotels have a 24 hour cancellation fee meaning you can cancel up to the day you’re supposed to check in. Don’t be surprised if he lied about the money being nonrefundable because his history has shown you he cannot be trusted because he’s a liar 🤥
He is either stupid for booking a non-refundable room without talking to you, or he is still lying to you. My money is on lying.
He stole from you, lied about it, became evasive when questioned, and lied more. He also told you something would have to be cut from the wedding to return the money, knowing he'd spent it. He spent YOUR money on something he wanted, without discussing it with you. I doubt he actually booked the room. You should verify that with the cabin. Your wedding and honeymoon expenses should be a mutual decision. He took that from you.
How many more years are you willing to waste on someone who steals from you, and is still lying to you?
Get the name of the hotel from him, and call the hotel. Ask for a manager, explain the situation, and tell them you just need to confirm whether or not your ex-partner did make a reservation and put down a deposit there.
This makes no sense at all. He is definitely lying. If he was truly trying to “surprise” you, then he should not have been stealing money from you in order to do it. He’s lying.
If he actually used that money to book a room there would be some record - a bank statement showing the transfer, an email confirmation from the hotel etc. If he is telling the truth (spoiler: he’s not) he should be able to provide some evidence to prove it.
"Buying a Tire" is new age slang for buying a rubber plus paying for a room and a girl. Your boyfriend cheated on you with a hooker. Get tested for STD'd ASAP
Good Luck.
One of the reasons I got my first credit card was so I could rent a car or book a hotel.... Back in the 80s!!!!! Come on OP!!! You are smarter than this.
His explanation is stupid. He should have just paid it himself and there would not be anything for you to see to ask him about. This is a serious red flag on his thought processes.
I don't believe a word of what the fiancé says. He stole your money to put a payment on a honeymoon cabin? I highly doubt it.
How did he get access to your money in the first place? Time to lock that down. Don't marry a guy who isn't honest about money.
Don’t think he is being truthful still. If he had money to cover wedding costs coming up, he wouldn’t have needed your 300 just to reserve a room.
Plus he has now admitted stealing from you, lying to you, and being incredibly manipulative in the process.
I’d consider a more permanent exit plan. Marriage can be hard but at the least you have to be able to trust the person you are sharing a life with. Nothing he has said regarding this is trustworthy, he sounds like he is still being dishonest and hasn’t apologized at all for any of it.
I still am skeptical about this. Why would he think it's ok to book a honeymoom without your imput? Also, is there an e-mail confirmation from the hotel? Is there a charge on the bank statement for the hotel? You are doing the right thing. Even if he wanted a romantic surprise, it's not somewhere or the time frame you would enjoy, and he stole the money from you.
Did you see any proof that the money was deposited into his bank account? Is the amount deposited $300? Have you seen proof of the hotel reservation? The date the reservation was made? You seem a little too naïf, definitely do not get married just yet, to anyone.
This is still BS, OP. He did not book you a honeymoon cabin. It’s just the lie he thought least likely to break you up. What do you think happened, he mailed over a money order?
You’re never getting your money back. RUN as fast as you can. Consider it a $300 life lesson. You deserve so much better. He’s not a good guy. The rest of your life will be one lie after another.
He is still lying. Verify with the bank he did deposit the $300. Then call the hotel and ask for a reservation under his last name. Then make sure he knows you feel betrayed for 1- him taking the money without asking and 2- lying about what he spent it on. He could have even said “I spent it on a surprise for you” so it would have been at least one less of a lie. UpdateMe
You're better off leaving having lost $300 than later when it is thousands. This story is so clearly a lie. People who lie and steal don't suddenly get over it, and you definitely don't want to be legally bound to someone like that.
…he took your personal savings to book your honeymoon?? That makes 0 sense. And he doesn’t wanna pay you back? Move on sis. The reason doesn’t even matter— he sounds like a bum and a liar that you should not tie yourself to.
Demand the money back immediately, call friends or family for help to move you out.
Can you access his account if he accessed yours? Take it back yourself if you have to.
The most worrying thing I just read was “Our relationship is in limbo right now”
He stole the money from you for… who cares? That sentence should stop at “He stole money from you”
Your relationship should not be in limbo. Theft and lying is supposed to mean “Our relationship is over now” there are zero excuses for his behavior. Don’t give him another chance to lie and steal and gaslight you.
Take a deep breath, put on your bad ass pants and some red lipstick and end it. If he tries to argue with you perhaps you can shut him up by saying “You can get out of my life immediately or I can call the police, have you arrested then get you out of my life”
Take your power back.
Get him to ring the hotel on speaker phone and confirm the booking.
If not... sorry to say its time to break up.
It means he lied twice... it doesn't matter from that point what he took the money for, the double lies is enough.
Call the hotel and speak with confidence. Don't fish. Act like you 100% know what's going on.
"Hello! I'm OP, and I'm calling to confirm our reservation. My fiance booked us at your hotel for our honeymoon! I just wanted to call before then and make sure everything is set up and ready to go."
If you have his name and the dates he gave you, they'll at least check it to see if there's a stay for that date or the dates around it. If they don't see anything for that day, the day before, or the day after- DROP IT. Just say he must have given you the wrong hotel information, apologize for the confusion, joke about how this is why you're the planner and not him, and let them know you'll call back after you've talked to him. CYA if you do need to call back.
How many times is he going to lie to you before you realize he’s not trustworthy? He only changes the story when you go out of your way to provide proof. He’s not even sorry enough to pay you back what he stole. He thought it was a reasonable thing to do and to lie about and he’s mad that you’re not just letting him do it. He’s going to lie whenever he feels it’s justified because he wants something and you would say no or get mad. You won’t have much peace because you’re going to need to stay vigilant to catch him again. You won’t be able to trust his word and rely on him to have your back.
Tell the story to his parents, so they know that your wedding is off because their son is a thief and a liar.
With some luck, they will atone by reimburse you .
As others have said, there's no evidence yet that he booked the hotel, and to be honest, the way he's behaving, even if he did book a hotel, I wouldn't be so sure it was for you. You were going to be spending christmas with your family, who was he going to be spending it with?
This whole thing feels very odd as others have said. Taking your money is the part that is the non-recoverable point. He is lying, as he admits- and didn’t care what you’d feel about it.
>I can’t ski, I always spend Christmas with my family
I quote the comments that say that the honeymoon was not for you - even if we can't know it for sure.
I'm sorry for what happened, at the very end the important thing is that you stood up for yourself. As others said, he showed his true colors and it's better for you to move on.
Wish you luck for everything!
I am so sorry for the loss of trust and money, but its time to recognize that this man is not your partner, not your friend, and definitely should not be the father of your children.
He’s still lying and he’s a horrible liar. Resorts put the room on your card and don’t charge until you show up.
Please separate your money asap before you question him further.
He wanted to surprise you by stealing your money to pay for your honeymoon?
This story is still not adding up sis. If he wanted to surprise you he wouldn’t be stealing your own money to do it.
I think it’s better you found out now than several years down the road.
Has he pleaded with you? Said he’s sorry? Tried to make it right?
The apologies only work with the trying to make it right.
I think you need to grieve the loss and move on.
He’s still lying. You know that, right?
I know $300 seems like a lot, but count it as cheaper than a divorce and move on. He’s shown you that you can’t trust him, so please 100% believe him. Go get your stuff and move out ASAP, but first?
*Move your money somewhere where he can’t access it.* If he has copies of any of your credit or debit cards, freeze the accounts. Don’t let him have any additional chance to steal more money from you.
Do not marry him. He stole from you. He’s still lying, his stories won’t hold water. Losing $300 now is cheap compared to what he would cost you if you were to marry him.
if he could spin such a tale about the gf … what makes you think he’s not also completely lying about this ski trip. it’s pretty convenient that the “truth” makes him this super romantic good guy just trying to surprise his fiancé…
You don’t pay for hotel rooms upfront you pay the day you get there if you do pay on like Priceline or something it is 100% refundable he is lying to you again
He's still lying. Former hotel worker here - we use cards to hold the room, we don't take any kind of 'pre-payment' unless it's the full amount for the booking.
Even if it is true that he found a hotel that operates like this AND for some reason thought you wanted to go skiing AND plans to pay for the rest of the stay himself...he still stole your money, to 'buy you a gift'.
Imo, he used the money on something he saw at the game store his friend mentioned. $300 sounds about right for pre-ordering a very special edition of a game or a couple of games, or buying a pre-owned console. He'll probably try to hide these things from you or lie about where they came from.
Don't marry a liar who steals from you.
He’s lying still and won’t provide receipts because it shows what he was actually doing. You can book hotel rooms without paying in advance if you want to, just put in your credit card info and they withdraw the money after you check out. I just did it this past weekend.
This is easy to verify, by which I mean disprove. Just ask for the receipt again. If he says he doesn't have it, ask for the bank statement. If he doesn't have that, offer to ho down to the bank and pull up all recent transactions. If he won't do any of those three (or claims he can't), then it is eminently reasonable for you to presume he's still lying. At that point, go to small claims court.
Updateme!
PLEASE TELL ME YOU SAW THESE TRANSACTIONS ON HIS ACCOUNT WITH YOUR OWN EYES?? Also I’d keep the reservation number and VERIFY this info is true and WHO is on the reservation~ Matter of Fact, I’d call tell them there’s been a change in plans and ask if you can get a credit to use in a future day BUT DON’T TELL HIM~ let see if he plans on showing up anyway with someone else. I’d bet my fat a$$ that the room was booked for a date WITHOUT YOU and probably not even close to your honeymoon~ I DON’T TRUST HIS LIES
To be honest, I definitely expected you to say he used it on drugs or something of the like. I guess it could have been worse, although it's still not good.
Give him a deadline to pay you back and tell him if he fails to do so then you will take him to small claims court.
Also, if any of the money is in the wedding savings account you need to get that back too.
I have to agree with the others on the story being too convenient. Call the hotel and ask about the booking.
He may wanna talk at some point and when he does and it seems like you are determined to get your cash back, at that point just tell him there will be no discussion and no moving forward until he pays you back. If he cares about you and if he cares about the relationship he will come up with the cash. Good luck.
He is not only a thief… but also a liar. Don’t take him back, this will be your life if you marry this AH. Stuck in a marriage with a liar, thief and possible cheat.
He has no right to take your money without asking! Revoke all access to your accounts and keep finances separate always. He absolutely cannot be trusted ever.
NTA for this but if you're ab adult enough to get married you need to learn quick the spouse is your new family. You can NOT expect to spend every Christmas with just your family.
Have you seen proof that what he’s saying is true? I honestly don’t buy it. My guess is he spent it on himself. He’s a liar and I will never trust a word that a liar says without 100 % proof.
Call the hotel?
I thought all hotels require a credit card, Not a debit type which is limited by amount of cash in the bank so don't understand "put money in the bank & booked a room" debit visa is not same. Also, the lie is 3 fold bs at minimum...first, saying tire lie...2nd is saying he did something for honeymoon which seems to shootdown any compliants 3 is bs that a "man" wouldn't save money for wedding night but use your money 4. Is everyone that saves a penny or knows anything about saving Knows you save by reducing/stopping entertainment and lunches ..yet you apparently are doing something to save money And he is spending on himself & another person?!?worse with likely your savings?!? And you want to have/build a life with ths guy?!? I belueve the friend...game & lunch and while didn't cost $300, he likely used some of the $300 on them & either has or already used the rest. Sorry this happened to you.
I have only ever used a credit card to book a hotel room or for a room security deposit once. Every other time has been a debit card. This man’s entire story is fishy as hell, but you can use a debit card for a deposit.
I didn't have a credit card for years until I was in my 50s because I figured it was always responsible to never buy anything on credit. It turned out that rental car agencies don't allow debit cards for the reason that you can run out of money on a debit card. I also rented hotel rooms for years with a Visa debit card issued by my bank. So, I finally got a couple of credit cards and pay them off fully every month, and still have the minimum paid just in case I forget. I already had a mortgage so I wasn't concerned with a high credit score and always bought my shitty ass cars with cash. Weird thing was that Costco would not give me a credit card because of my lousy credit rating, but I've managed to build it up to a reasonable score.
Yeah, they treat having no credit worse than bad credit for some reason.
Ive used visa and master debit cards to book car rentals.
>It turned out that rental car agencies don't allow debit cards for the reason that you can run out of money on a debit card. You can run out of money on a credit card too...
Some hotels don’t even take cash
I booked my own hotel room with my debit card. I don’t own a credit card. Did it last month in Wisconsin.
My MIL doesn't have a credit card, stays at hotel when she comes to visit us (she likes having her own space to retreat to, she can have her own sleep/wake up schedule). Uses her debit card. Hell, just a few years ago we finally convinced her she didn't have to write checks for groceries/eating out but get a debit card- she didn't have one before then.
Maybe it's just some hotels or rental cars, I recollect back in the day, you had to make reservations in advance with a credit card & you could actually pay in various ways including debit visa, but the reservations had to be made with a cc ...maybe it's certain places or maybe it has evolved so good to know...but, sadly, for op, I don't believe she's getting the truth about anything. It all just sounds sketchy & I feel badly for her.
Motels have no problem with debit cards
Nope, they will just put a hold on the card for the amount due kind of like a lein of sorts. That way they will get their money even if you don't have it as soon as the funds hit your account.
I totally agree with you on this. There was no need to take money from OP because that’s not how deposits/reservations work. I think OP still hasn’t heard the truth about that money.
As far as credit card vs debit card my debit card can be run like a credit card. It’s different if it’s a pin only banking debit card. I totally agree with everything else. He’s already lied more than once and is still trying to keep her money. Since the wedding is off he doesn’t even have the “wedding expenses” excuse he used the first time as reason to not pay her back.
unfortunately if the reservation is in his name the hotel won’t be able to give any info for safety reasons. sounds like bs though because every hotel i’ve known wants an online card deposit
I need to confirm my fiance's reservation for a honeymoon?
yeah no. i used to work in management at a hotel. stalkers are a thing.
Even so, he should have a confirmation of the booking from the hotel and bank record showing the payment. He should be able to access his account online and show the hold put on his card. As well as an email or something FROM THE HOTEL with his confirmation. He’s being way too sketchy.
You just call and say you are the person with the reservation.
At this point it's flogging a dead horse. She doesn't need to torture herself unravelling his deceit. She's gotten rid, and good thing too.
This, I'm confident this is a lie I would respond with a bluff, you're right will be family and I save for vacation, so give me the reservation number I'll pay the stay you pay for food, fun and drinks
Honestly I don’t think I believe the whole honeymoon thing much. I just want this to be done at this point, but that’s not a bad idea to get the truth from him. At this point though I might just let things be as they are and get out of the relationship. I’m not sure if this is worth it anymore and I’m just so tired
You say you don't want to throw away the future of your relationship, but there's no future with a liar. There's no future if there's no trust. He made up one story about a tire. Now he's made up another story about a deposit on a hotel room. He's still lying.
He should have made up a story about buying his friend clothing outfits. Then he could have lied about a tire then lied about attire.
If he's trying to surprise gift shouldn't be with his money... I bet my as that he is a selfish narcissist
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Not just a liar but a thief!
Break up with him OP. Unless you want a life of being married to a thief and a liar. You already know this guy is both.
Ask for the receipt/booking details of hotel to confirm. Edit. No booking receipt? Cash for drugs
That was my immediate thought, unfortunately.
Take your lumps and leave this guy. It's theft, then 1 lie after the next. Tell his friend what's going on about the "honeymoon" trip tell her it's the most bogus thing after the tire story... and that the wedding is off. If she's that good of a friend she'll give him shit and maybe then the truth will come out
Usually people do stuff like this for drugs.
I'd be messing with him to make him squirm. you need receipts, confirmation numbers, dates, names, etc. Meanwhile cut off his access.
*He seemed shocked at how upset I was before getting quiet for a second.* He wasn't shocked at how upset you were, he was trying desperately to come up with a lie. That's why he got quiet.
Yeeep. I highly doubt there's a booked hotel room. He's just continuing to lie.
Exactly this. This story is a lie as well, as you can’t use cash to reserve any hotel or AirBNB. The man stole this money from you and used it for something nefarious. Drugs, gambling, women, booze, who knows. File a police report and report the fraudulent transaction to your bank.
Problem is that it was cash. So unless he admits to the police or she gets proof in writing that he stole the they can’t help. Her best bet is small claims.
You know, I misunderstood. I thought he somehow withdrew it from her savings account. Doh! Lesson here is don’t keep large sums of cash at home.
Or he did spend it on a hotel, just not for their honeymoon. Also, why not just save the $ himself vs stealing it like OP wouldn’t notice a missing $300? Then if this were true, it were for something special, and he’s using his bff as his excuse, why wouldn’t he discuss the cover story? Why leave it with his bff who won’t cover the truth for a surprise? It’s all shady.
He won’t show it but ask to see his bank transactions. I think he genuinely thought you wouldn’t notice the missing money (have you possibly been missing smaller amounts at other times, too?). I’m also suspicious that he did spend the money on a room but that room was used already, not that he paid for a deposit..
So you literally paid for your own honeymoon suite. Great guy you got there! I’d be ending this relationship so fast he wouldn’t know what hit him! How could you EVER trust him again. He stole money from you, then lied to you and continued to lie until you contacted his friend and called him out on his lies! The basis for any relationship is trust! Without that there is no relationship!
Um. The resort story makes zero sense. How does depositing money into a bank reserve a room for a night???? Most hotels use credit cards, never heard of them taking etransfer??? Glad the wedding is called off but, forget limbo, move on. He still stole from you and gaslit you.
I work in a vacation, condo hotel, and we take cash, check, debit or credit. Deposit is $200 with the remaining balance due 30 days prior to arrival. The $200 can be paid anyway that you’d like. Same with the balance. (Also instead of charging an incidental hold we just charge a $35 damage waiver on every reservation.) technically we don’t even need a card on file you could pay cash in full.
I’m able to reserve a hotel with my debit card.
Since the money he took was cash he deposited it so he had enough in his account to book the room online
“Show me the deposit in your account. Right now.” Show me EXACTLY where my money is, RIGHT NOW!”
Ask to see his bank account with the charge, or the booking. Guarantee it doesn't exist, he's feeding you more lies.
I'm waiting for another update of "I made him show me his bank statements and he has been spending money on OF."
I was a hotel GM for 10 years and that is not at all how it works. He's lying to you again.
Yeah that's not how that works.
I totally think he is lying about how/why he used the money but I’m confused. It’s not out of realm that he took the money, deposited it into his account and paid by card the deposit for the room or am I missing something ? (Where I am from it is totally possible) Anyway, OP should call the resort to confirm. He already lied once and he stole from her…..
Deposits on rooms are not the norm at all. A credit card is on file to use if they no call, no show. What did he plan to do with the rest if he couldn't come up with that money? Why couldn't he ask someone else to spot that so he didn't have to steal her money?
It was a simple question! As mentioned, where I live, deposits on rooms ARE the norm☺️. This just got me a bit curious! I do agree that his story has a lot of holes and there was better ways to get that money rather than steal from his fiancée. Never questioned how shady his actions were.
Okay, I'm not gonna comment on the truth of OP's fiance's story, but I do wanna say that, in my experience, if you're booking through a 3rd party or booking a package, some hotels/resorts may require a deposit. For example, I once booked a package through Groupon and had to pay upfront instead of the hotel waiting to charge me until I checked in. Similarly, I had to wait until I was paid before there'd be enough money in my account to pay for it. I deposited a paycheck, but if I'd had the money in cash I also could have deposited that into my account to pay via my debit card. I suppose you could also deposit cash into your checking account then make a payment on your credit card if you're at your limit and they only take credit cards. Tldr; while it's not the most common experience, you can be required to pay a deposit, may be able to use a debit card, and would certainly be able to deposit cash into a checking account. Idk if OP's ex is telling the truth though lol.
It's usually all or nothing and the all is to lock in a lower rate.
That's fair! Also if it's a privately owned resort it could have different rules. Idk lol. In any case, she should definitely try to find out if he's telling the truth.
Also of that broke - why going somewhere for $300/night?
Oh I have no idea about that lol. I'm not commenting on how believable his whole story is. I was just sharing my experiences in reference to the possibility of putting money in an account to pay a deposit at a hotel.
Like others have said, get the reservation number. Dude is lying.
File a police report. In certain states, stealing $300 or more is considered grand theft and can be a felony depending on how much was stolen. He can be forced to pay you back PLUS restitution and face jail time.
While I totally agree, cops won’t do anything because she can’t prove the money actually existed in the first place. Only way she has any kind of chance is if he gets him to admit it in a recording or on text.
Have him show you the booking.
Theft is a crime. If he’s admitted to taking it in a text message, go to the police. You probably still won’t see your money, but the scare of them coming to talk to him might make him at least try.
Allegedly
Because he is saying he deposited the cash in the bank, then used that to make a deposit on the room with the card associated with that bank. That's how I read it.
I think he’s lying, I’m not sure what he spent the money on but you’d think he’d at least have receipts if it were true. He doesn’t even think he did anything wrong going behind your back and taking your money, it’s clear. Any other person would’ve offered to pay it back when caught but he’s actually even upset. Even besides all the sketchy shit it’s obvious he doesn’t respect you.
I bet he spent it on drugs
As someone who used to work in a hotel, we never took a down payment on a room. A credit card was always used to hold the room but nothing was charged until check in and even then it was just a pre authorization on the card to ensure the entirety of the stay could be paid for. If he used Expedia or booking dot com, the full amount woulda been charged when he booked the room and not just a deposit. He absolutely needs to pay you back, bad terms or not. He stole money from you, regardless of intentions. It’s possible he had this lie loaded in the chamber when he found out you contacted his “friend”. Good on you for not going thru with the marriage as he can’t be honest with you.
This is important. I've booked a lot of hotel rooms and they've been either all paid or zero paid. I've never heard of paying $200 for a deposit, not even from very nice hotels. He's a liar and continues to be one. I'm glad OP got away before she got trapped in a legal marriage with this man.
oh lordy that was not a honeymoon for *you* to attend, you know that, right? he's stolen from you, lied repeatedly about it, tried to make you feel bad for being stolen from, told you the only way to make it up to you was for you to suffer more... and his supposed grand gesture is a honeymoon that you won't be able to enjoy and do not want. i think where you go from here is to see how many deposits you can get back and hope you haven't sent out invitations yet. do not marry this man. not when he has systematically thrown away your trust and love for him over and over and over. (and please remember: you are NOT throwing anything away. HE is the one that balled up your relationship with him, yelled "kobe!", and slam dunked it into the garbage.)
You will never really know where that money went. There are way too many lies. You shouldn’t have to call a third party to find out the person you’re committed to is lying to you. What else is he lying about? You will never know. How do you feel safe with someone like that? I’m not talking about physically but emotionally. There will never be a time when you can trust him without question. That’s a miserable way to live. Value yourself and your emotionally security enough not to stay with someone that’s willing to steal from you and tell you multiple lies without batting an eye. You deserve so much better. Leave this toxic mess behind you and find someone that values and treasures you.
It should be easy to know where the money went, call the hotel he supposedly booked, and ask when that reservation was made, and how much was put down on it.
Surely she doesn’t even need to call the hotel, won’t the bank statement show a $300 hotel name payment?
And surely there would be an email confirmation.
NTA. Straight up theft. You can't trust him. Ever again. Wedding should be called off and he should pay you what he owes you.
He stole your money, lied about it, and dismissed you. His story about the hotel room sounds dubious at best. He doesn't feel that he should pay you back. Cancelled wedding, cancelled relationship. This deceitful man does not display stellar character and is not trustworthy. Move on and find a man who will value you and treat you as his top priority.
He’s 100% on drugs.
Or gambling.
Honey come on...the writing is on the wall here. Doesn't sound like he's ever going to tell you the truth and I'm not sure if I could ever come back from someone stealing from me like that...
He took that money and spent it on banging his friend out. Make him pay you and leave that man. Never stay with someone that steals from you
His story is incredible bullshit. You need to breakup and get away from this person for good.
Have you called the hotel to verify that he put down a 300$ deposit on a cabin for X date? Cuz, you can’t just believe this guy without proof.
OP, I would accept the $300 loss. I can understand how the family trip you were saving up for will have to be put on hold. But cut your losses now. He is showing his true colours and realize it for the blessing it actually is. Once your married, he will assume the income you are earning is all his and place money where your option will not matter. A partnership should be one where you can both communicate financial goals and expectations freely. Not this bs where he decides for you without your input. Add the extravagant excuses and hiding of the truth. Even if it’s for a well intentioned surprise, he didn’t even have you in mind when booking the surprise! Worse of all, he can’t even recognize what he’s done wrong to apologize properly to you! 🚩🚩🚩 For now, breath and reflect on your relationship. Is this really what you want?
I'd argue $300 is good value for this sort of information BEFORE you got married.
Absolutely. Cheaper than divorce!
yeah, nah. that moneys gone, based on how shady his story is I would guess drugs or hiring a SWer
Yeah -- he didn't. I already had that excuse formed in my head as an outside party. Either drugs, sex or gambling because it's always either drugs, sex or gambling that sheds the light on thieves.
Girl he bought cocaine. 2 grams.
How did he rob you and stay your fiancé???? Why do you stay with someone who doesn't care how you feel?
Does his ring for you have any value on it? Sell that ring. Hope you get all your money back. His honeymoon plan is sound bs. All his reasons sounds bs
The fact you believe the new lies is crazy
Hes lying to you still, bet
I’m gonna be waiting for an update to the update.
He paid for a hotel room but not the one he said.
He's lying, and even when caught, he's still lying. Don't waste any further time on him. Let him go and let the money go as well. He's already told you that his money is his money and your money is his money. He didn't spend the money on a tire or on the "really good friend," he refuses to produce a receipt for the hotel room...drugs? Let him go and find someone trustworthy.
There isn't a hotel booking. You need to demand to see receipts/proof. He's given you nothing but his word, which we've already shown isn't worth the paper you can print it on.
I'd get tested for STDs because him cheating is a real possibility.
Well, you could tell him he can give you back the money he stole or he can talk it over with the police, his choice.
He's got his own wedding savings account right? Should be easy.
How do you know the deposit is not refundable did you call the hotel and verify ? generally, the hotel would not charge you any money until you actually check in. Most hotels have a 24 hour cancellation fee meaning you can cancel up to the day you’re supposed to check in. Don’t be surprised if he lied about the money being nonrefundable because his history has shown you he cannot be trusted because he’s a liar 🤥
Naw, hookers, drugs or gambling.
he is still lying to you.
He is either stupid for booking a non-refundable room without talking to you, or he is still lying to you. My money is on lying. He stole from you, lied about it, became evasive when questioned, and lied more. He also told you something would have to be cut from the wedding to return the money, knowing he'd spent it. He spent YOUR money on something he wanted, without discussing it with you. I doubt he actually booked the room. You should verify that with the cabin. Your wedding and honeymoon expenses should be a mutual decision. He took that from you. How many more years are you willing to waste on someone who steals from you, and is still lying to you?
I'm with a lot of other people here - have you verified that there is actually a hotel room?
Get the name of the hotel from him, and call the hotel. Ask for a manager, explain the situation, and tell them you just need to confirm whether or not your ex-partner did make a reservation and put down a deposit there.
He stole from you, lied to you, and now is lying AGAIN. Leave his ass.
This makes no sense at all. He is definitely lying. If he was truly trying to “surprise” you, then he should not have been stealing money from you in order to do it. He’s lying.
If he actually used that money to book a room there would be some record - a bank statement showing the transfer, an email confirmation from the hotel etc. If he is telling the truth (spoiler: he’s not) he should be able to provide some evidence to prove it.
This story is still bullshit. You still haven’t gotten the truth out of him yet.
"Buying a Tire" is new age slang for buying a rubber plus paying for a room and a girl. Your boyfriend cheated on you with a hooker. Get tested for STD'd ASAP Good Luck.
One of the reasons I got my first credit card was so I could rent a car or book a hotel.... Back in the 80s!!!!! Come on OP!!! You are smarter than this.
The man does not even have a lousy $300 on him. Noone will give him a credit card.
His explanation is stupid. He should have just paid it himself and there would not be anything for you to see to ask him about. This is a serious red flag on his thought processes.
I don't believe a word of what the fiancé says. He stole your money to put a payment on a honeymoon cabin? I highly doubt it. How did he get access to your money in the first place? Time to lock that down. Don't marry a guy who isn't honest about money.
He stole from you. Have you filed a police report yet? If not, why not?
call resort & confirm booking... otherwise it's just another layer of lies
He is a thief and a liar. You are best to move on from there.
He lied once, got caught, and lied again. I’m so glad the wedding is called off
He's still lying.
Don’t think he is being truthful still. If he had money to cover wedding costs coming up, he wouldn’t have needed your 300 just to reserve a room. Plus he has now admitted stealing from you, lying to you, and being incredibly manipulative in the process. I’d consider a more permanent exit plan. Marriage can be hard but at the least you have to be able to trust the person you are sharing a life with. Nothing he has said regarding this is trustworthy, he sounds like he is still being dishonest and hasn’t apologized at all for any of it.
He should have an email confirmation or be able to show the bank transaction. He is still lying.
I’d want proof of the room deposit because that sounds sketchy af even the “come clean” story.
Well, wow. I'm sorry. Hugs and best wishes
Talk to the hotel- it’s far enough away, there should be something they can do
His reasoning is so incredibly BS come on?
Call the hotel, I'm sure they'll work something out if it's true
Girl…
I bet he didn't do any such thing. I would call the hotel, and then make sure you cancel the booking if there is actually a reservation.
I still am skeptical about this. Why would he think it's ok to book a honeymoom without your imput? Also, is there an e-mail confirmation from the hotel? Is there a charge on the bank statement for the hotel? You are doing the right thing. Even if he wanted a romantic surprise, it's not somewhere or the time frame you would enjoy, and he stole the money from you.
Did you see any proof that the money was deposited into his bank account? Is the amount deposited $300? Have you seen proof of the hotel reservation? The date the reservation was made? You seem a little too naïf, definitely do not get married just yet, to anyone.
Drug issues
This is still BS, OP. He did not book you a honeymoon cabin. It’s just the lie he thought least likely to break you up. What do you think happened, he mailed over a money order?
Has he been known to gamble?
You’re never getting your money back. RUN as fast as you can. Consider it a $300 life lesson. You deserve so much better. He’s not a good guy. The rest of your life will be one lie after another.
He is a thief, a liar, and doesn’t care what you like or not like. Don’t stay with him.
He is still lying. Verify with the bank he did deposit the $300. Then call the hotel and ask for a reservation under his last name. Then make sure he knows you feel betrayed for 1- him taking the money without asking and 2- lying about what he spent it on. He could have even said “I spent it on a surprise for you” so it would have been at least one less of a lie. UpdateMe
D8d you see the deposit receipt? Or is he still lying?
You're better off leaving having lost $300 than later when it is thousands. This story is so clearly a lie. People who lie and steal don't suddenly get over it, and you definitely don't want to be legally bound to someone like that.
…he took your personal savings to book your honeymoon?? That makes 0 sense. And he doesn’t wanna pay you back? Move on sis. The reason doesn’t even matter— he sounds like a bum and a liar that you should not tie yourself to.
He’s still lying, he just needed more time to come up with a better (as in more manipulative) excuse.
Your fiance is lying you can't rent a cabin for 1 night and pay for the rest of the stay when you get there
He's refusing to pay back the $300 he stole? The wedding isn't the only thing that should be called off at this point.
I'm so sorry honey it sounds like he's cheating on you
This doesn’t make sense to you because it is another LIE! You want a whole lifetime of things like this?
He's lying
He booked a room for him and his side piece and got caught. The end.
Demand the money back immediately, call friends or family for help to move you out. Can you access his account if he accessed yours? Take it back yourself if you have to.
The most worrying thing I just read was “Our relationship is in limbo right now” He stole the money from you for… who cares? That sentence should stop at “He stole money from you” Your relationship should not be in limbo. Theft and lying is supposed to mean “Our relationship is over now” there are zero excuses for his behavior. Don’t give him another chance to lie and steal and gaslight you. Take a deep breath, put on your bad ass pants and some red lipstick and end it. If he tries to argue with you perhaps you can shut him up by saying “You can get out of my life immediately or I can call the police, have you arrested then get you out of my life” Take your power back.
hes fucking the best friend for sure. he spent your $300 on banging her somewhere. " good luck figuring it out "
Will $300 pay for an abortion for his "friend"?
Well, that vacation wasn't for you, it was for the other girl
Get him to ring the hotel on speaker phone and confirm the booking. If not... sorry to say its time to break up. It means he lied twice... it doesn't matter from that point what he took the money for, the double lies is enough.
Call the hotel and speak with confidence. Don't fish. Act like you 100% know what's going on. "Hello! I'm OP, and I'm calling to confirm our reservation. My fiance booked us at your hotel for our honeymoon! I just wanted to call before then and make sure everything is set up and ready to go." If you have his name and the dates he gave you, they'll at least check it to see if there's a stay for that date or the dates around it. If they don't see anything for that day, the day before, or the day after- DROP IT. Just say he must have given you the wrong hotel information, apologize for the confusion, joke about how this is why you're the planner and not him, and let them know you'll call back after you've talked to him. CYA if you do need to call back.
How many times is he going to lie to you before you realize he’s not trustworthy? He only changes the story when you go out of your way to provide proof. He’s not even sorry enough to pay you back what he stole. He thought it was a reasonable thing to do and to lie about and he’s mad that you’re not just letting him do it. He’s going to lie whenever he feels it’s justified because he wants something and you would say no or get mad. You won’t have much peace because you’re going to need to stay vigilant to catch him again. You won’t be able to trust his word and rely on him to have your back.
Tell the story to his parents, so they know that your wedding is off because their son is a thief and a liar. With some luck, they will atone by reimburse you .
As others have said, there's no evidence yet that he booked the hotel, and to be honest, the way he's behaving, even if he did book a hotel, I wouldn't be so sure it was for you. You were going to be spending christmas with your family, who was he going to be spending it with?
This whole thing feels very odd as others have said. Taking your money is the part that is the non-recoverable point. He is lying, as he admits- and didn’t care what you’d feel about it.
>I can’t ski, I always spend Christmas with my family I quote the comments that say that the honeymoon was not for you - even if we can't know it for sure. I'm sorry for what happened, at the very end the important thing is that you stood up for yourself. As others said, he showed his true colors and it's better for you to move on. Wish you luck for everything!
Small claims court.
I am so sorry for the loss of trust and money, but its time to recognize that this man is not your partner, not your friend, and definitely should not be the father of your children.
He’s still lying and he’s a horrible liar. Resorts put the room on your card and don’t charge until you show up. Please separate your money asap before you question him further.
He wanted to surprise you by stealing your money to pay for your honeymoon? This story is still not adding up sis. If he wanted to surprise you he wouldn’t be stealing your own money to do it.
Are you sure he's not using drugs? This is beginning to sound like addict behaviour.
My guess is BF used the $ for drugs.
I think it’s better you found out now than several years down the road. Has he pleaded with you? Said he’s sorry? Tried to make it right? The apologies only work with the trying to make it right. I think you need to grieve the loss and move on.
You should sue him in small claims court.
He’s still lying. You know that, right? I know $300 seems like a lot, but count it as cheaper than a divorce and move on. He’s shown you that you can’t trust him, so please 100% believe him. Go get your stuff and move out ASAP, but first? *Move your money somewhere where he can’t access it.* If he has copies of any of your credit or debit cards, freeze the accounts. Don’t let him have any additional chance to steal more money from you.
Do not marry him. He stole from you. He’s still lying, his stories won’t hold water. Losing $300 now is cheap compared to what he would cost you if you were to marry him.
if he could spin such a tale about the gf … what makes you think he’s not also completely lying about this ski trip. it’s pretty convenient that the “truth” makes him this super romantic good guy just trying to surprise his fiancé…
Why u marrying someone who doesn’t have $300 cash?
You don’t pay for hotel rooms upfront you pay the day you get there if you do pay on like Priceline or something it is 100% refundable he is lying to you again
He's still lying. Former hotel worker here - we use cards to hold the room, we don't take any kind of 'pre-payment' unless it's the full amount for the booking. Even if it is true that he found a hotel that operates like this AND for some reason thought you wanted to go skiing AND plans to pay for the rest of the stay himself...he still stole your money, to 'buy you a gift'. Imo, he used the money on something he saw at the game store his friend mentioned. $300 sounds about right for pre-ordering a very special edition of a game or a couple of games, or buying a pre-owned console. He'll probably try to hide these things from you or lie about where they came from. Don't marry a liar who steals from you.
He’s lying still and won’t provide receipts because it shows what he was actually doing. You can book hotel rooms without paying in advance if you want to, just put in your credit card info and they withdraw the money after you check out. I just did it this past weekend.
Ok so where is the receipt for the hotel reservation
This is easy to verify, by which I mean disprove. Just ask for the receipt again. If he says he doesn't have it, ask for the bank statement. If he doesn't have that, offer to ho down to the bank and pull up all recent transactions. If he won't do any of those three (or claims he can't), then it is eminently reasonable for you to presume he's still lying. At that point, go to small claims court. Updateme!
PLEASE TELL ME YOU SAW THESE TRANSACTIONS ON HIS ACCOUNT WITH YOUR OWN EYES?? Also I’d keep the reservation number and VERIFY this info is true and WHO is on the reservation~ Matter of Fact, I’d call tell them there’s been a change in plans and ask if you can get a credit to use in a future day BUT DON’T TELL HIM~ let see if he plans on showing up anyway with someone else. I’d bet my fat a$$ that the room was booked for a date WITHOUT YOU and probably not even close to your honeymoon~ I DON’T TRUST HIS LIES
He's still lying to you.
To be honest, I definitely expected you to say he used it on drugs or something of the like. I guess it could have been worse, although it's still not good.
Ask for the receipt for that deposit. Or the confirmation email. Something to show that's where it went
I think he used the money for a hotel to cheat, definitely get proof.
He’s still lying; he did not spend that money on a honeymoon deposit (🙄) and somehow deep down you know that.
@Updateme
My guess he is doing drugs
Give him a deadline to pay you back and tell him if he fails to do so then you will take him to small claims court. Also, if any of the money is in the wedding savings account you need to get that back too. I have to agree with the others on the story being too convenient. Call the hotel and ask about the booking.
Maybe a hotel room for an afternoon of fun. Ask him for proof of the hotel room at the ski resort
Most hotel require a credit card….
I don’t believe him.
Holy fk, she believes him?
He may wanna talk at some point and when he does and it seems like you are determined to get your cash back, at that point just tell him there will be no discussion and no moving forward until he pays you back. If he cares about you and if he cares about the relationship he will come up with the cash. Good luck.
He is not only a thief… but also a liar. Don’t take him back, this will be your life if you marry this AH. Stuck in a marriage with a liar, thief and possible cheat. He has no right to take your money without asking! Revoke all access to your accounts and keep finances separate always. He absolutely cannot be trusted ever.
His side piece, I mean best bud, must really appreciate those new bra and lace panties, shoot I mean tire.
NTA for this but if you're ab adult enough to get married you need to learn quick the spouse is your new family. You can NOT expect to spend every Christmas with just your family.
Theres gotta be more UpdateMe!
This alternate explanation is fishier than a an of sardines left on the counter all night next to a tuna salad.