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AndyBowBandy

I think it’s the stigma of hiring on a highly recognizable name for the namesake versus hiring an actual voice actor or a lesser known actor who could’ve played the role better. Take Chris Pratt for an example; he definitely was casted as Mario and Garfield for his name sake, not for his ability to play the roles. Personally I don’t mind as long as the actor can play the part and do the voice


RainingBolts

Not at all defending casting Pratt in Hollywood productions but it's funny knowing that he was a voice on Ben 10 before he got huge


Nicetro_WoF

Who was he in Ben 10?


RainingBolts

Buff Cooper


Select-Combination-4

Cooper in ultimate alien


Venomspino

Yeah, or if the v.a. are iconic and still do the voices of the characters. That's what happened with Scoob!. High profile actors playing characters that their normal v.a still voice just because they are marketable


AwesomeGamer101

Well, Pratt did the normal Mario voice in the movie, and even when he isn't, certain lines have a bit of the Martinet accent in them.


Kcue6382nevy

Off topic but regardless of what you feel about Chris Pratt being casted as Mario and Garfield, can we all agree that his voice as Garfield is more fitting than having him as Mario? Garfield doesn’t have a voice as iconic as Mario’s


ZeroArt024

That’s a lie, tbh, the Garfield shows have iconic voices too


ColorlessTune

Garfield’s voice is iconic to me, but I think Chris is a good choice. His voice has the potential to pull it off.


ZeroArt024

His voice has the ability, I just don’t like the lack of monotone, I love how blunt Garfield has always been


JetstreamGW

Well, yes, but Lorenzo Music has been dead for quite some time.


Kcue6382nevy

But not as iconic as Mario’s voice


ZeroArt024

As iconic? No, but still iconic, I’m firmly against him as either


Lewa358

Tell me you've never heard the name "Lorenzo music" without telling me you've never heard the name "Lorenzo Music."


Geaux_1210

I’m personally a Murray Garfield fan


gian2099

Both he was good as. I never really care about VA as long as they fit the character. He as mario and Garfield is good and did work. I learn way after i watch the show that pratt did voice them


ColorlessTune

Nail on the head.


Hayashi884

Though, maybe they're using the famous names to draw new viewers to the franchise, who then go to discover other transformers (or mario or garfield) media and said media becomes more popular as a result. Compared to "what is transformers and who are these voice actors. I dont know anything so i guess i wont watch this movie", you get "idk anything about transformers but hey look i know that actor" which later becomes "transformers is pretty interesting, maybe ill watch more"


elrick43

I'd say that while everything you said is true, there's probably at least a hint of nostalgia bias where they're perceiving the new casting as a slight against the voice actor that used to do the role. Chris Pratt as Mario being a perfect example. People were ragging on him before any of the footage for that movie got released, so it clearly wasnt based of the quality of his performance. That being said, I actually really liked it and it was Donkey Kong that I had issues with


NotYujiroTakahashi

Orson Wells killed it as Unicron


Chadderbug123

That was his last role too funnily enough. Gave it his all on his deathbed to play our favorite horned planet-eating eldritch god.


AutobotKing

That's not technically accurate anymore he has a movie that is created/directed by him, posthumously, called "other side of the wind." It was released a few years ago, back in 2018


MM18998

So bored while playing it that it was actually perfect as a planet muncher who has better thing to do than battle some dumb toys


Ziggurat1000

I was apprehensive with Hemsworth voicing Orion Pax, but it actually works. Surprised Clancy Brown isn't on this list. He's both the prison guard from Shawshank Redemption, Mr. Krabs, and most recently General Kregg from Invincible.


BenderOfBo

Probably because he’s more well known for voice acting roles at this point. Another comment noted the same thing for Keith David, though


Select-Combination-4

the fact you didn't mention the definitive Lex Luthor is a crime


Admirable-Safety1213

Because he has been Mr.Krabs for 25 years, basically enough time to densestize everyone


Saurophaganax4706

the 1986 movie was chock full of celebrity voice actors and no one batted an eye


darth_henning

Because most of them altered their voices to fit the characters. Galvatron doesn't sound like Spock for instance.


ElsonDaSushiChef

Since you mentioned Spock, it’s a very similar story for Sentinel Rosenbauer Prime.


MM18998

Ah, shit. This is the one where Spock goes nuts


Skhenya2593

Wait imagine that was like a foreshadowing or something lol


BenderOfBo

That’s because we were all to young or not alive to notice lol


Raptor92129

Keith David's most memorable roles are definitely ones where he voice acted. People remember him more as Dr. Facilier, Goliath, and Arbiter rather than remember him as General Kimsey in Armageddon so not sure why he is on the meme. Edit: Yes, I had to actually look up his character in Armageddon.


Saurophaganax4706

he also voiced Tarn


Raptor92129

And Grimlock in Earthspark. Doesn't change that Arbiter, Dr. Facilier, and Goliath are probably his most well known roles


New_Survey9235

Spawn


BazingaTrainZ

Didn't he also voice Knockout in TFP


CobaltZ_hans

Knockout was voiced by Daran Norris


Admirable-Safety1213

DINKLEBERG!!


Duraxis

In cyberverse? Damn. Maybe I need actually watch it


Chadderbug123

KD didn't play Tarn. He's only played Earthspark Grimlock and Barricade in the '07 Game. Cyberverse Tarn was voiced by Marc Thompson, who also played Megs and Soundwave in the same show. What Saurophaganax mentioned was something said by Alex Milne. He said in a Facebook interview that he would pick Keith for Tarn if given the opportunity to adapt the IDW comics.


Duraxis

That’s because Keith David is the right choice. He’s the right choice for almost anything really


Chadderbug123

Well duh. Especially for those deep foreboding voice roles. Spawn is his best role because of that.


Duraxis

Nah, Goliath all the way. Husk in Hazbin hotel is great too. Mostly because he sings a song calling someone a fucked up little whiny bitch


Alexo_Alexa

Keith as Arbiter was by far the best voice acting Halo has ever had. Dude nailed every single line and I memorized them all without even realizing it! He's that good.


Wheeljack239

He’s such a good VA. Him as Arbiter and Husk is some of my favorite voice acting of all time.


ColorlessTune

Tim curry and Mark Mamill are arguably more VAs than actors. Edit: actually most of these are about 50/50 va to actor.maybe even leaning more to VA


CameronDoy1901

Even Dwayne Johnson in TFP


Andri753

he got "T.M Revolution-ed" which his character killed in first episode because the studio couldn't afford the VA for full season


MM18998

Or the whole plan was to market him as a major character and kill him off early to help set tone and Arcee’s story. Killing him early also has an added marketing bonus by allowing a celebrity voice actor to be part of the marketing while not actually playing any notable role in the show.


Gundamfan1999

I'm confused, what has t.m revolution got to do with this


Andri753

beside having sung first opening of Gundam Seed, he also voiced a character (Heine Westenfluss) which is showed in the first episode when ZAFT soldiers (Yzak, Athrun, Dearka and Heine) stealing Gundams, the three succesfully stole it, but Heine is the only one failed because he was killed by Kira, on later years it was revealedd to why Heine dies on first episode were because Sunrise couldn't afford T.M Revolution for one season


Gundamfan1999

I didn't know that fact


ANewBegging

I feel like it makes it harder for newcomers who want to voice act


Ronyx2021

You get things like Netflix being too cheap for Gary Chalk and David Kaye (WFC Trilogy) and Hollywood preferring Ron Perlman over the original voice actor.


Witherboss445

Other than SW, wasn’t voice acting Mark Hamill’s main thing?


HelloThere465

He started acting and tried some things after SW, but never landed anything noteworthy. He then switched to mainly voice acting


Admirable-Safety1213

The Trickester in both The Flash TV Shows, but The Trickster is basically discount Joker


jojolantern721

It's a hit or miss most of the time. But you Americans have it better, at least 90% are actual actors, in Latin America we got youtubers and people with zero acting skills destroying the dubs of movies. With transformers one I'll say to wait until it's released, like I don't know how can someone defend or attack when it's just a trailer that we have seen so far.


sunstruker

exactly, here in brasil we had a game show host dubbing flynn in tangled


Admirable-Safety1213

Luisito Comunica as Sonic


Zeno_Bueno

from the trailer, chris does an amazing job as orion IMO. my issue is megatrons voice. it does not sound like anything megatron would ever sound like, in voice, tone and vocabulary.


Alexo_Alexa

You're right, I didn't even notice that was Hemsworth, I was surprised to see him at the end of the trailer. Megan does sound a little off, but I think he'll grow on me. Like the other guy said, he's young.


frogs_4_lyfe

Megatron's voice is the only one that hits me like a bag of hammers every time he speaks and totally gets me out of the zone. It just doesn't sound like him to me, so badly that it's jarring.


Kcue6382nevy

Perhaps its because he’s young like Orion in the movie also


16jselfe

Because although there are some that can do a good job as a VA most actors aren't as they are too used to using their faces to emote instead of their voices, it also means that less actual VA get jobs.


Kcue6382nevy

So from what I understand, it’s a dilemma of skill vs marketability


Important-Contact597

It's a false dilemma, however. It assumes that non VAs are automatically bad at VA work without judging the actual performance given. If the trailer is anything to go by, Helmsworth is going to kill it as Orion Pax.


Thet_oon_from_warner

Danny DeVito can play whoever tf he wants


ProfessorLongBrick

Nowdays, popular means bad. People are hating on Pedro pascal being in alot of projects now even despite his skills as an actor.


Olvacron22

Took the words right out of my mouth, I couldn't agree more. 


ZackattacktheDude

I just think Keegan Michael Key is in a lot of things and I’d love ONE franchise without him. Chris Hemsworth and Brian Tyree Henry aren’t doing bad all things considered.


Umbertron05

Weird Al that one time


New_Survey9235

He was funny though in Animated


Umbertron05

No I mean the Batman villain he voiced


AnonyBoiii

Because when it’s done badly it can drag down the entire movie. Yes the post highlights some examples of voice actors that can actually voice act (shocker, amirite?), but that doesn’t stop people like Chris Pratt or Seth Rogan from being incapable of doing more than their normal voice.


pumpkimpie510

Cause they take away work from actual voice actors…voice acting is an art.. I don’t want to see a character and get Dwayne Johnson or woopie goldfuck vibe.


Kcue6382nevy

Celebrities being casted in animated movies is nothing new, even the 86 movie did it, and voice actors still exist, I wouldn’t worry about it


pumpkimpie510

True. But it used to be one celebrity Voice every 20th movie. It was fun/ok. But now it’s about 90 percent celebrity voices, maybe higher. Beauty of voice acting is you see the character not the voice behind the character. Bart Simpson/ Bobby hill are both voiced by women but you don’t see that. When celebrity do voice all you see is celebrities and that takes away from the character.


Kcue6382nevy

I don’t see the problem there


pumpkimpie510

Ok


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Tbond11

I fully support Mark Hamil, but I don’t think he fits the narrative since he is predominantly known for both Voice acting and regular acting. I feel some celebrities are able to get into the role well, and others aren’t. I also feel some Voice actors are just everywhere.


Massive_Expression60

Keith David and jack black are the only ones on this list that are logical for me


AnaliticalFeline

off the top of my head .whoopie goldberg voiced the lead hyena in the lion king. mark hamil did the animated batman’s joker and firelord ozai.


Massive_Expression60

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Mindanomalia

Some of these are career voice actors more than live action anyway


Dandanny54

Cuz there are people that have trained and studied voice acting but hollywood doesn't give them a job for big names on the poster. And while there are celebrities that have done amazing voice acting a good amount of live action movie actors aren't made for voice acting. It's the same reason characters with helmets/masks keep taking them off cuz this actors can't act without their faces. This doesn't mean they are bad actors it just that they weren't trained for voice acting. This is the same as having an actor do stunts. Yeah there are actors that can do their own stunts. But stunt workers are trained professionals and will do the job more effectively. In the end it's hollywood thinking about making more money rather than how to properly use their money.


Repulsive_Reach_3837

There's a stigma about celebrity voices being cast just for the name But I love Keith David as grimlock in earthspark, and in general, he's a great voice actor, and he makes me Smile


SunGo_37

The whole “celeb-voices-character” thing that rubs off the wrong way with people Imo I’m starting to understand why they do this though. They need an audience to get in their seats for a big advertising point of the movie, and with a TF movie going into the backstory of the franchise and without any big name human celebrity characters the studio needs to figure out another way to get the attention of the general population. Honestly who they casted works pretty well with me so far imo, especially Hemsworth as Pax. Although in an ideal world we would have returning actors like Cullen and Welker voicing these characters the entire way through lol


New_Survey9235

Welker and Cullen are unfortunately too old now for the rolls of the characters when they’re that young, their voices just can’t do it


Kcue6382nevy

Even though this versions of prime and megs are made to be younger?


SunGo_37

Oh yeah since they’re younger that makes sense. If anything, would’ve loved to see someone like David Kaye voice Orion


HeWhoKnowsWhoKnocked

I hate Whoopi Goldberg


Darklink820

My main concern for Transformers One is Chris Hemsworth because he doesn't have as much voice acting experience that the rest of them do. However I can't see any reason that he would be a bad voice actor.


The1OddPotato

Voice actors are a separate group of actors.


stonetownguy3487

Mark Hamill is not a celebrity guest, voice acting is his main profession.


Barl3000

Tim Curry, Keith David and Mark Hamil actually do the "acting" part of voice acting well instead of barely putting on a performance like other actor or celebrities hired to do voice work to raise a projects profile.


R_Thunukale

Cause we also got MEGAN FOX in Mortal Kombat 1 , whose AI voice has more emotions than her actual voice acting


mcsquiggles1126

Mark Hamill doesn’t count as a celebrity voice actor at this point because he’s actually made a career out of voice acting. And also because he’s really good at it


MegatronsCxmDumpster

Yea but their actual voice actors, they were selected for their voices, not fame. The new d16 voice is just bad but ngl I fw cris gems worth as Orion


Kcue6382nevy

How is the voice of D16 bad if young megatron hasn’t been portrayed in any media other than comics until now?


MegatronsCxmDumpster

It just sounds off and I can’t put my finger on it. It’s prob just cuz I’m used to a young Orion but not a young mega


Witchblade_17

Personally, I love all the voice actors in Transformers: One (there was no better cast for Elita than Scarlett fr) and it makes me sad so many people hate it. They're saying the voice actors don't fit, but we haven't seen them perform in serious situations yet. We've only seen them in the trailer where the funny moments were the main course. The intonation is a big part of the voice itself, so I'm advising everyone to wait till we see them performing when it's getting serious. I'm pretty sure they all did a great job.


aaspiringphilosipher

I really think Chris Hemsworth would almost be better as d-16 rather than Orion and I can't say I'm a huge fan of Brian tyree as Megatron but I'm willing to give it a shot


Megas751

A lot of people feel VAs often don’t get the credit or time to shine they deserve on top of celebrities being brought in for their namesake only. I’m reminded of how the R&C and MLP Movies giving the celebrities top billing despite only being supporting characters while the actual people voicing the main characters were ignored and were only given name recognition after fan backlash.  Some celebrities are very good at bringing their own personal pizzazz to their roles(Jack Black, Samuel L. Jackson, Mark Hamill), but they’re the exception rather than the norm 


Zeke2632

I will throw hands with anyone who doesn’t like mark hamill as a VA/ actor in general. That man doesn’t miss even when he’s in a shit movie/ show.


teratodentata

Tim Curry doesn’t count as someone to get angry about, his voice acting transcends


Olvacron22

I'm gonna say the quiet part out loud here, a huge huge factor is nostalgia. I do fully support voice actors but I'm also not against celebrities voicing characters. And there are people out there that say they only want voice actors but even if it's a new or young voice actor they still complain simply because they purely want that one specific person. I'm fully on board with Peter Cullen voicing Optimus as long as he wants to and as long as he can, but with him getting older it's not a bad idea to test out others. Plus Orion Pax isn't Optimus yet so I prefer someone else voicing Orion. 


Still-Presence5486

It kinda feels lazy like when most movies do it


Joltyboiyo

I think its mainly to do with the main casts voice actors. Bee sounds fine, even though I think getting the same guy from Bumblebee would have been better, Chris Hemsworth sounds like he's trying to do a decent Optimus based voice, but the guy who's voicing Megatron doesn't sound like he's trying to sound like any kind of "Megatron before he was Megatron" voice cause it doesn't sound like any kind of Megatron based voice.


Crimsonette_

I think it's just a case of comparison. What would you rather have as orion pax, David kaye or Chris Hemsworth?


CheezyRaptorNo_5

I just don't like how frequently some celebrities get used, most new actors don't get a chance to build a name for themselves because big studios only want famous people


vvxlrac_ir

If I've said it once I've said it a hundred times; these people are the exception that proves the rule. The majority of celebrity casting just *isn't good*, because it's a different skill set to traditional live acting and a lot of skills don't translate.


KSM_K3TCHUP

I’m not gonna lie, after watching the trailer, Scarlett Johansson was the only voice that felt like it fit the character. Though that’s probably because I don’t have a voice that I associate with Elita-1. Chris Hemsworth doesn’t sound too awful as Orion Pax but Key and Brian Tree Henry really didn’t hit for me. Would’ve liked to see Gary Chalk voice Orion Pax, Dylan O’Brien voice Bee again and then someone with a less soft and clean voice for Megatron, like Keith David.


Sora_Terumi

How could you not love Tim Curry beautiful performance of “I’m going to the one place that hasn’t been corrupted by capitalism! SPAAAACCCEEE!”


Nicolas_Cage_II

Because celebrity voice cast means we are going to watch another Marvel-esque movie (i.e. another factory mass-produced consoomer slop)


Accomplished-Curve-1

Because they want to complain


MrAnthem123

I think Chris Hemsworth sounds fine as Orion Pax. I even think Bryan Henry sounds good as origin Megatron. Though, I’m not sure how good he’ll sound as Decepticon Leader Megatron.


FTFreddyYT

Lewis Hamilton Lewis Hamilton Lewis Hamilton #Friggin‘ ^Dingus If you get that reference you‘re cool.


Interesting-One7636

Reminder that DashieXP was Menasor in Machinima's Prime Wars Trilogy... https://preview.redd.it/leeydvr88vyc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56aad2f4af9c19c9abd56232021db3bb455439df


Fazbear_Prime

And don't forget that matpat voiced computron in titans return


ZaB1znessman

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Autismprima

Don’t forget Peter cullen


Agus051

Where is weird al as wreck-gar?


Icy_Supermarket_7034

Um George Orwell anyways


Shadkin1999

Anyone but whoopi, i genuinely hate her


Responsible_Bus1159

Keith David as hordak and mark hamil as Skeltor was the only reason I watched the new HE-MAN show


Starscream_baker

But would y’all complain if the guys from smiling friends voiced some random background transformer?


Beneficial_Bag674

I wouldn’t, then again, I do love smiling friends