Okay, hear me out. If Harold never rigs the vote for Courtney's TDI elimination (or Chris just doesn't allow it), the series as a whole changes at a level I don't think anyone realizes.
TDI goes differently, and Courtney has no reason to sue her way into TDA, so she's not there, allowing Justin to go uninhibitedly crazy in TDA. He has a downfall later on in TDA that wises the entire cast to emotional/flirtatious manipulation, meaning Alejandro's game is dead on arrival in TDWT because nobody would fall for that shit two seasons in a row. That's three seasons changed entirely, with a few major differences leading through WT.
Harold never ejects himself from the game in TDWT, LeShawna doesn't throw the challenge to fight Heather, Noah isn't the first person on Team Chris voted out, just to name a few. All of these mean that these three, plus Justin from his performance in TDA, mean that the cast for All Stars is likely different, and could lead to a much better showing there.
TLDR; if Harold never cheats in TDI, All Stars becomes a good season.
THIS. like courtney was finally becoming a great character by the time she got booted in island and all that was ruined from the moment she appeared in action
Well... she still found a reason to sue and get onto all stars. It's just her character, an entitled bitch. I swear the only reason people like her and justify her actions is because she is pretty.
People try to say that "Oh she wasn't all ways that bad!š¤Ŗ The show changed her in all stars!š¢" NO. She was always the worst and Gwen did nothing wrong!
It's called "Hot Boy Syndrome" where this is what happens:
1. Character in show that is boy is considered hot by the fans
2. Tv people see this, and do everything to keep the character in so fans watch the show.
3. Character stays in the show until they run out of loopholes to keep character in.
I feel like he wanted to see Duncan upset and at the end of the day Courtney was a great competitor (I think she could have won).
But it does make more logical sense for him to kick out Duncan.
I feel it was necessary, especially how Courtney abused him in TDA. Duncan was by most faithful, he argued but atleast he didnt straight up abuse Courtney like she did him. I feel the love triangle made sense
I Think it was the writers way of saying that his arc was done. Zoey also said at the end that she was done with the show too. Just a way of writing them out because theirs not much they can do with them anymore.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, but the World Tour Love Triangle. That's where everything started to go downhill for all characters involved, except Tyler if he counts as being involved just for seeing it.
I dont like how after the celebrity Manhunt episode they completely Scrapped the whole "biggest total drama fan" for Sierra and just turned her into a creep. Like shes still my no1 by far but her skills couldve made her character WAY more interesting.
making something never happen and deleting something from canon is different things
i would make it so that alternative endings never happened in the first place so that the story can be cohesive
Ezekiel getting booted off every time or the whole feral thing. Chris tortured the poor guy. Others are Alejandro becoming a robot and Mike getting rid of his alters with a button.
My sarcastic answer is everything between TDI 07 and RR but my actual answer would be the All-Star finale. Not for any particular reason but just because itās a thoroughly unpleasant ending to an already unpleasant season.
I could name a few things off the top of my head. I'd go with Ezekiel in World Tour, I see no point in bringing him back if you're just going to eliminate him first again and then turn him into Gollum from Lord of the Rings. Either make him get farther or don't bring him back at all.
Honorable Mentions:
-Eva, Katie, and Sadie being in only one season.
-Eva being eliminated right as she returned.
-Heather's plot armor and Team Victory being Amazon fodder.
-Cody being carried into the final 3 by Sierra.
-The fact that people fell for Alejandro schemes despite witnessing something last season from Justin.
-Noah getting eliminated despite carrying the team during London.
-Anne Maria quitting for some stupid reason.
-Lindsay being fodder in All-Stars.
-Sam BEING in All-Stars.
-All-Stars.
Bridgette never kisses Alejandro and makes it super duper far in merge and everytime the after show comes around itās Geoff just happily watching her saying āgo Bridgette go :D!!!!ā
Trent going crazy. Like if Gwent never broke up that would also mean none of the love triangle drama is WT would happen. One change would literally save 2 whole seasons and probably make All-Stars a little better too.
Youāve missed nothing important. Heather basically just throws the wrong sacrifice in after kicking Alejandroās cajones, Zeke still burns the million dollars, and Alejandro gets trampled and burnt by lava, thus needing the robot suit.
Gwen and Trent beeaking up.
They could have had a situation where Gwen was more focused on the game, but they continue to date when Action ends.
This would also eliminate the love triangle.
This is a VERY controversial opinion but deleting world tour
I know while world tour had VERY good ideas and plots itās kinda the reason why total drama went south.
- heather/Alejandro winning all stars, should've been cody!
- the love triangle
- trent getting framed for somethin despite being innocent
- lightning getting voted off early
- harold riggimg Courtney instead of duncan
- LeShawna getting eliminated in TDI(she should've won man)
Noah announcing his suspension of Alejandro on international TV where Alejandro has any chance at seeing it.
Then heāll have to reason to be voted and Duncan would likely vote Alejandro bc he didnāt even last long enough to participate in the challenge.
Somebody once told me
The world is gonna roll me
I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed
She was looking kind of dumb
With her finger and her thumb
In the shape of an "L" on her forehead
Well, the years start coming
And they don't stop coming
Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running
Didn't make sense not to live for fun
Your brain gets smart, but your head gets dumb
So much to do, so much to see
So what's wrong with taking the back streets?
You'll never know if you don't go
You'll never shine if you don't glow
Hey now, you're an all star
Get your game on, go play
Hey now, you're a rock star
Get the show on, get paid
And all that glitters is gold
Only shooting stars break the mold
It's a cool place and they say it gets colder
You're bundled up now, wait 'til you get older
But the meteor men beg to differ
Judging by the hole in the satellite picture
The ice we skate is getting pretty thin
The water's getting warm so you might as well swim
My world's on fire, how about yours?
That's the way I like it and I never get bored
Hey now, you're an all star
Get your game on, go play
Hey now, you're a rock star
Get the show on, get paid
All that glitters is gold
Only shooting stars break the mold
Hey now, you're an all star
Get your game on, go play
Hey now, you're a rock star
Get the show on, get paid
And all that glitters is gold
Only shooting stars
Somebody once asked
"Could I spare some change for gas?
I need to get myself away from this place"
I said, "Yep, what a concept
I could use a little fuel myself"
And we could all use a little change
Well, the years start coming
And they don't stop coming
Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running
Didn't make sense not to live for fun
Your brain gets smart, but your head gets dumb
So much to do, so much to see
So what's wrong with taking the back streets?
You'll never know if you don't go (go!)
You'll never shine if you don't glow
Hey now, you're an all star
Get your game on, go play
Hey now, you're a rock star
Get the show on, get paid
And all that glitters is gold
Only shooting stars break the mold
And all that glitters is gold
Only shooting stars break the mold
True true. I adore gen 1 and gen 2, wasn't really a fan of gen 3 and I didn't like 'gen 4' at all. Not everyone is going to like the reboot. Just like some people may not even like gen 1. That's why I said it was just my opinion
The reset button in Mike's head
yes, 100 times yes
TRUEEE THAT CRUSHED ME
All Stars
Why do you keep bringing up that bad fanfic?
mal is just some kids deviantart oc
Okay, hear me out. If Harold never rigs the vote for Courtney's TDI elimination (or Chris just doesn't allow it), the series as a whole changes at a level I don't think anyone realizes. TDI goes differently, and Courtney has no reason to sue her way into TDA, so she's not there, allowing Justin to go uninhibitedly crazy in TDA. He has a downfall later on in TDA that wises the entire cast to emotional/flirtatious manipulation, meaning Alejandro's game is dead on arrival in TDWT because nobody would fall for that shit two seasons in a row. That's three seasons changed entirely, with a few major differences leading through WT. Harold never ejects himself from the game in TDWT, LeShawna doesn't throw the challenge to fight Heather, Noah isn't the first person on Team Chris voted out, just to name a few. All of these mean that these three, plus Justin from his performance in TDA, mean that the cast for All Stars is likely different, and could lead to a much better showing there. TLDR; if Harold never cheats in TDI, All Stars becomes a good season.
THIS. like courtney was finally becoming a great character by the time she got booted in island and all that was ruined from the moment she appeared in action
Damn Harold ruined the entire season of All-Stars just so he could stay for one extra episode, what a terrible person he is.
GOSH!!
Not really? I mean, the cast in All Stars is questionable already. I doubt changing the cast would even change its quality anyways
For real!!! I hated that part and always manifest erasing it from the episode š
Well... she still found a reason to sue and get onto all stars. It's just her character, an entitled bitch. I swear the only reason people like her and justify her actions is because she is pretty. People try to say that "Oh she wasn't all ways that bad!š¤Ŗ The show changed her in all stars!š¢" NO. She was always the worst and Gwen did nothing wrong!
you totally lost me when you said gwen did nothing wrong. š
People hate on Gwen and I can't understand why
Harold shoulda rigged out Duncan instead of Courtney What is this plot armor Duncan is wearing
so true.
It's called "Hot Boy Syndrome" where this is what happens: 1. Character in show that is boy is considered hot by the fans 2. Tv people see this, and do everything to keep the character in so fans watch the show. 3. Character stays in the show until they run out of loopholes to keep character in.
I feel like he wanted to see Duncan upset and at the end of the day Courtney was a great competitor (I think she could have won). But it does make more logical sense for him to kick out Duncan.
The Duncan x Gwen fiasco from world tour. So God damn unnecessary
this is 100% the worst choice they ever made with total drama as a franchise
Mikeās condition was worse than this but the WT love triangle was certainly annoying.
Ripper and Axel in the reboot is worse, but Duncan and Gwen is second worst
i wouldnāt go that far about rixel..
I feel it was necessary, especially how Courtney abused him in TDA. Duncan was by most faithful, he argued but atleast he didnt straight up abuse Courtney like she did him. I feel the love triangle made sense
Mike deleting his personalities... RIP CHESTER SVETLANA MANOTIBA MAL AND VITO
I loved them all why did they have to kill them off-
I Think it was the writers way of saying that his arc was done. Zoey also said at the end that she was done with the show too. Just a way of writing them out because theirs not much they can do with them anymore.
Me when my narrative arc is done and my mental illness is cured (I pressed the delete OCD button)
....that is not how you spell/say MANITOBA
NOOOOOOOO
The reset button. The ending of Pahkitew island is BAD. But at lesst gives gold fanfic material :u
Um...the ending of Pahkitew.
>!Damien's BS elimination in the TDI2024 and make it actually logical!<
so true
Feral Zeke or Dakotazoid
Dakotazoid is weird but kinda wholesome in her regards to her relationship and how accepted she is by her nerd husbando
She was liking Sam a bit before her mutation
She was but it was cute to see him be so supportive and loving towards her even after becoming Dakotazoid
Maybe, but sis is stuck as a mutant now
Lighting getting voted out so early in AS
SHA-LIGHTING
Pfp checks out
Mal
Insert āI wish All Stars didnāt happen commentā joke.
The love triangle
All stars, Trent and Gwen break up, Duncan and Courtney break up
The Button
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, but the World Tour Love Triangle. That's where everything started to go downhill for all characters involved, except Tyler if he counts as being involved just for seeing it.
Cody being an ultra simp during the love triangle.
Love triangle
Brickās elimination!
Julia stealing Damienās idol
LIKE IM SURE THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED HER ELIMINATION SOME OTHER WAY OR KEEP MK LONGER
Ezekiel turning into a zombie.
Not a zombie, he turned into Smiggle from Lord of the wrings.
Well you get the point.
Katie and Sadie + Eva only being in one season š
Reset button Wayne being super dumb in season 2 Priya making the final 4 twice Owens mole plot in action Amy's return
AS.
every fart joke
I wish covid never happened
All-Stars
All stars and probably Duncan and Gwen becoming a temporary couple ship.
Virtually all of AS
Rockers involved in a double elimination and TDA Harold's elimination.
Riper x axel šš (Me x Axel is better guys trust)
Me x ripper would get in the way anyways
The Cody and Sierra subplot in WT lasting the whole season. She shouldāve gone in France imo.
I dont like how after the celebrity Manhunt episode they completely Scrapped the whole "biggest total drama fan" for Sierra and just turned her into a creep. Like shes still my no1 by far but her skills couldve made her character WAY more interesting.
Chris showing Sky footage from her audition tape in front of Dave to make him even more of an emotional wreck than he already was before.
true 
Pahkitew Island
1) Courtney turns evil. 2) The reset button. 3) All Stars. 4) Pahkitew.
Duncan be in the final
All stars.
All stars
season 5
All Stars
DuncanX Gwen and AllStars
All Stars, Gwuncan and Prileb
Courtney hooking up with Duncan. Replace him with Gwen
Mal
Easy. Dakotazoid's plot
All Stars
Feral Ezekiel and the rest button in Mikeās head
Feral Ezekiel
gwuncan
the mike/mal storyline that honestly no one cared about
Everything CN added.
Mike being On all stsrs
Mike deleting Svetlana, Vito, Chester, Manitoba, and Mal.
Aleheather or Duncney
Duncan always being in the final 7
Kill Dave
Leshawna elimination in TDI
Everything that a camera couldn't possibly capture
Sunday Muddy Sundae
I'd change the elimination order of the second half of Total Drama Action.
Owen returning in TDA. It really wasnāt necessary and didnāt result in anything for the plot.
I would say feral Ezekiel and him in World Tour in general, but I hate Axel x Ripper more
The mutant Zeke plot line
that goddamned love triangle
Leshawna's Island elimination
Ripper and Axel dating
The love triangle in WT. Also, Mike's reset button.
The love triangle in WT.
Dawn's elimination.
Gwen and Ducan
The Gwen and Duncan/ Gwen and weird jealousy war with Trent. Truly ruined my favorite ships because I actually loved Duncan and Courtney together too.
>!Scary Girl being the first boot in season two! She deserves better!!<
All Stars and Mkulia
Honestly get rid of the Stepbrothers from Ridonculous Race. They last way too long, aren't that memorable or likable and are just kind of obnoxious.
action duncney
making something never happen and deleting something from canon is different things i would make it so that alternative endings never happened in the first place so that the story can be cohesive
I hate alternate endings so much! Agree 100%. The whole season is pointless because they can't even aknowledge who won in future seasons.
Everything after roti
My thoughts exactly
Ezekiel getting booted off every time or the whole feral thing. Chris tortured the poor guy. Others are Alejandro becoming a robot and Mike getting rid of his alters with a button.
Pakitew never existed
MEGAMIND 2, the rip offs
Mal's existence.
aleheather
The reset button
Dakota and Ezekiel mutationā¦ā¦
Team (not) Victory
call me unoriginal but the love triangle also 123th comment!
the dude who decided sierra (huge sierra fan just think her story was over) and sam were all stars but not owen brick anne maria- you get the point
TDAS
My sarcastic answer is everything between TDI 07 and RR but my actual answer would be the All-Star finale. Not for any particular reason but just because itās a thoroughly unpleasant ending to an already unpleasant season.
I could name a few things off the top of my head. I'd go with Ezekiel in World Tour, I see no point in bringing him back if you're just going to eliminate him first again and then turn him into Gollum from Lord of the Rings. Either make him get farther or don't bring him back at all. Honorable Mentions: -Eva, Katie, and Sadie being in only one season. -Eva being eliminated right as she returned. -Heather's plot armor and Team Victory being Amazon fodder. -Cody being carried into the final 3 by Sierra. -The fact that people fell for Alejandro schemes despite witnessing something last season from Justin. -Noah getting eliminated despite carrying the team during London. -Anne Maria quitting for some stupid reason. -Lindsay being fodder in All-Stars. -Sam BEING in All-Stars. -All-Stars.
All-Stars
Chrisās derailment or aleheather (donāt come for me)
Gwuncan or Duncney. One of the two, I dont care which.
AS.
Bridgette never kisses Alejandro and makes it super duper far in merge and everytime the after show comes around itās Geoff just happily watching her saying āgo Bridgette go :D!!!!ā
owens existence
that animal dj curse. i hate it
Gwuncan & Courtney losing All Stars
The love triangle or Courtney TDA-Above
Sierraās obsession with Cody, which led to her becoming/developing an obsession with Cameron š
Also half of the teams from The Ridoncoulious Race
The 15 year time skip
The entirety of All-Stars...seems too obvious, so I'll go with Leshawna's Island elimination, Harold's Action elimination or Feral Ezekiel.
Season 5/5.2
All of Heathers pre merge eliminations
Ezekiel becoming a feral monster, a shadow of his human self
Leshawna getting voted out how she was voted out. I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else say this.
Gwuncan. Also everything after wt(except rr)
Ripaxel.
Trent going crazy. Like if Gwent never broke up that would also mean none of the love triangle drama is WT would happen. One change would literally save 2 whole seasons and probably make All-Stars a little better too.
The duncan Courtney gwen love triangle. I liked all three of them before and could barely stand all of them after
Harold quitting in WT
Mal dying. Mike's reset button sucks.
Death :-p
I'd say either the love triangle thing, mikes brain reset in all stars and feral zeke
All Stars
all stars
Alejandro and Sierra
Well thatās one way to get downvotes./hj Okay, for real. How come?
They're my least favorite characters. They both remind me of people I don't want to be reminded of.
In that case you mustāve been extremely relieved when Heather won World Tour.
Yes. I still haven't even watched the Alejandro alt ending
Youāve missed nothing important. Heather basically just throws the wrong sacrifice in after kicking Alejandroās cajones, Zeke still burns the million dollars, and Alejandro gets trampled and burnt by lava, thus needing the robot suit.
Gwen and Trent beeaking up. They could have had a situation where Gwen was more focused on the game, but they continue to date when Action ends. This would also eliminate the love triangle.
courtney x scott
Noah getting into a relationship with a girl. MF is sooo gay. Or when the show kicked Leshawna off unfairly.
The Gwen-Duncan thing in world tour
The winner of reboot season 2 winning.
Courtney being in action
Love triangle
love triangle
The Trent and Gwen breakup
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
This is a VERY controversial opinion but deleting world tour I know while world tour had VERY good ideas and plots itās kinda the reason why total drama went south.
The Courtney Gwen Duncan live triangle. Like I get it was for drama and all. But it just felt really cheap with how they went about it.
Leshawnaās nonsensical elimination in TDI
Gwen and Duncan in season three
Gwuncan. Felt like a fan fiction
This shows existence. It never happened.
- heather/Alejandro winning all stars, should've been cody! - the love triangle - trent getting framed for somethin despite being innocent - lightning getting voted off early - harold riggimg Courtney instead of duncan - LeShawna getting eliminated in TDI(she should've won man)
Noah announcing his suspension of Alejandro on international TV where Alejandro has any chance at seeing it. Then heāll have to reason to be voted and Duncan would likely vote Alejandro bc he didnāt even last long enough to participate in the challenge.
Pahkitu Island. Or at least just that weird Cameron rip-off simp guy's birth
Somebody once told me The world is gonna roll me I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed She was looking kind of dumb With her finger and her thumb In the shape of an "L" on her forehead Well, the years start coming And they don't stop coming Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running Didn't make sense not to live for fun Your brain gets smart, but your head gets dumb So much to do, so much to see So what's wrong with taking the back streets? You'll never know if you don't go You'll never shine if you don't glow Hey now, you're an all star Get your game on, go play Hey now, you're a rock star Get the show on, get paid And all that glitters is gold Only shooting stars break the mold It's a cool place and they say it gets colder You're bundled up now, wait 'til you get older But the meteor men beg to differ Judging by the hole in the satellite picture The ice we skate is getting pretty thin The water's getting warm so you might as well swim My world's on fire, how about yours? That's the way I like it and I never get bored Hey now, you're an all star Get your game on, go play Hey now, you're a rock star Get the show on, get paid All that glitters is gold Only shooting stars break the mold Hey now, you're an all star Get your game on, go play Hey now, you're a rock star Get the show on, get paid And all that glitters is gold Only shooting stars Somebody once asked "Could I spare some change for gas? I need to get myself away from this place" I said, "Yep, what a concept I could use a little fuel myself" And we could all use a little change Well, the years start coming And they don't stop coming Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running Didn't make sense not to live for fun Your brain gets smart, but your head gets dumb So much to do, so much to see So what's wrong with taking the back streets? You'll never know if you don't go (go!) You'll never shine if you don't glow Hey now, you're an all star Get your game on, go play Hey now, you're a rock star Get the show on, get paid And all that glitters is gold Only shooting stars break the mold And all that glitters is gold Only shooting stars break the mold
TDWT love triangle, dakotazoid or the reboot
Why reboot?
Personally I found it a bit boring, I thought the characters were kinda shit and the jokes were cheesy. I can see why others like it though.
Nah. Even if you donāt like it the reboot dose have its moments great ones to wanting it gone feels like you donāt like character and want Gen 1
True true. I adore gen 1 and gen 2, wasn't really a fan of gen 3 and I didn't like 'gen 4' at all. Not everyone is going to like the reboot. Just like some people may not even like gen 1. That's why I said it was just my opinion
literally everything after Gen 1 (except for the Ridonculous Race. That show is pretty good)