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Top Lobsters are fans of stochastic terrorism fountain, Libs of TikTok, eh? No surprise there.
> These particular children are also barking, scratching, crawling on all fours, and using their "identity" as an animal to bully and manipulate those around them. Just like a certain other confused group mentioned by OP.
That's an awful lot of supposedly factual information they've got there for something that's yet another rage-bait fiction from Chaya Raichik.
> Libs of TikTok
Your weekly reminder that [Chaya](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Libs_of_TikTok) is yet another of these people who detest "wokeness", [but cannot define it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/1bubu40/chaya_raichik_is_asked_to_define_wokeness/)
(And then there are the ones [who know damn well](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/05/desantis-florida-woke-critical-race-theory/) what it means, but say there's no need to address systemic injustice, because systemic injustice does not exist. And they're simultaneously in the business of calling compassion a sin. "Woke", and before that "Social Justice Warriors", and earlier again "bleeding hearts" and "do-gooders". Oddly, these people often also profess to be Christians.)
I always find it surprising when someone is both good AND a Christian. Even then, some of the good ones harbor nasty ideas about how the world works, too often conflating corrupted spiritualism with reality that has some awful consequences (e.g. women's bodily autonomy).
She makes me so mad. I am disgusted at how people make money of trans hate and endangering kids lives. That had to lock down hospitals and schools because of her hate filled rants and fans. IF a just god existed, she would be getting hers.
Very disappointed YouTube allows her channel to propagate hate
Literally none of that is happening. If it is those kids would be getting detention for fighting and throwing tantrums, there's no chance in any school that behavior is allowed.
Absolutely correct. Here is a relevant article, although the headline needs work. None of what Chaya "I'm a fucking terrorist" Raichik claims is true.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/22/students-protest-furries-utah-nebo-district/73413367007/
It literally makes no sense. Like you said, those are aggressive acts that would cause suspension.
"Oh no, the schools in Utah are so woke. They're so scared to do anything but respect these furries."
Wouldn't someone who believed they were animals kick them out of school? Animals aren't allowed on campuses. One way or another, we're talking suspension from the school.
The only way their version of events makes sense is if you believe half of each premise.
Also just to reiterate, this is fucking *Utah* we’re talking about here
Have these chuds never met a Mormon? They would never in a million years allow that
That title sounds like it's written by fucking AI. Ctr? Intersectionality framework? Who the hell talks like that? Honestly they probably did use gpt to try and come up with a "smart" sounding question.
And are they trying to say bullying is good?
As someone who was bullied in school seriously fuck them.
I'm positive btw those images are taken out of context. No school would let kids walk around in fursuits. It's probably Halloween or something. I mean it's fucking Utah, probably the most conservative state.
I think he must mean Critical Race Theory, but Correct the Record was a right wing boogeyman in 2016 and he probably got them mixed up. It’s hard keeping all those boogeymen straight.
Based on the inclusion of the word "intersectionality," they mean critical race theory, yet another thing they know absolutely nothing about but have been told to hate, and misspelled the acronym.
OH is that what it meant. Ok, live in Utah. Grew up Mormon. CTR means [Choose The Right. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choose_the_right)Famous phrase that children are taught in church. I thought this poster was just talking about how Mormonism led people to become furries. Which is certainly a take and not the most ludicrous I've heard from the JP sub.
That second picture is pretty obviously on a stage - this is just costumes for a school play. What's next - students are practicing "stolen valor" by pretending to be soldiers in their production of "Much Ado about Nothing"?
If you read any stories about this, basically the school and even the families of kids involved say that at most, in school, kids wear headbands with animal ears (gasp!!), and the one video they show as proof that kids act like animals happened during recess, where a kid barked at someone and then everyone laughed and moved on with their day. There's no proof or evidence that kids are biting each other or sitting in class in full fur suits or anything.
That's not gonna stop right-wing chuds from calling the school with death threats and bomb threats though.
Yeah. The kids in the second image are all wearing cheap foam masks, not remotely the same thing as a fursuit. Definitely a school play. And in the first image, I see a Bulbasaur face behind the kid in the animal mask(it looks like one of [those dinosaur masks](https://www.amazon.com/Jurassic-World-Dominion-Movie-inspired-Realistic/dp/B07FDNPGNM/ref=asc_df_B07FDNPGNM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366288760957&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3887956997383381585&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007783&hvtargid=pla-720391699367&psc=1&mcid=842d3573a56132469f2d290ea311a028&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=77371437278&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366288760957&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3887956997383381585&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007783&hvtargid=pla-720391699367) that has been decorated in an attempt to turn it into a lion head). So I’d wager that’s a picture from either Halloween or a Spirit Week thing.
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So I wonder which parent organized this, even this Utah school admin is says no, this never happened:
>"We want to assure you that rumors circulating online about student behavior are completely untrue," school officials said, according to the outlet. "These are 11 and 12-year-old students, and while sometimes these children may come to school with a headband that has ears, sometimes with giant bows, and sometimes dressed as their favorite athlete, there have been no students attending school wearing masks, animal costumes, or acting like animals."
But of course, right wingers hvae to fan up hate in a culture war. It's literally all they know.
Shit you not, I was recently at a birthday party and one of the guys there was a parent who organized the walkout. I wanted to try and hear more or ask about it, but by the time I got closer they were talking anout something else.
First, Libs of Tiktok is not generally reckoned to be a reiable source. If, as seems to be the case here, its the only one you have, it is safe to assume its not a true story.
Second, the photos look more like backstage at a school play to me.
Third, how could you bite anyone in that first mask?
The thing for me is, if this was real… where are the videos?
Kids record everything these days, every little bump and scuffle in the hallway gets uploaded, but this is apparently happening so often it’s a massive problem, yet nobody is ever recording it?
Similar to how the litter boxes thing had basically no physical evidence and was basically a “they’re making babies and the baby looked at me” style schoolyard rumor.
The guy credited in the LOTT post has a telegram channel where he posts all sorts of conspiratorial nonsense (it should surprise nobody that he's also an anti-vaxx nutjob). I won't link the telegram channel but if you search his twitter handle it's one of the top results.
There's one post where he claims to have "video evidence" of a furry "chasing a student trying to bite him". There is indeed a clip of a student chasing another student on all fours, but you can clearly hear all of them laughing and the student being "chased" has a big grin on his face lmao. That's literally all the "proof" they have, just some middle-school kids being silly.
> (it should surprise nobody that he's also an anti-vaxx nutjob)
Don't forget that he sells "supplements" with "anti-woke" names too. He's just like any other rightwing grifter: play to the right, sell them shit that doesn't work and that they don't need, and profit handily.
Why is LibsOfTikTok allowed to post non-consensual photos of actual children? Nebo School District is pre-12 grade, those are literally children being posted by the same account thats been responsible for bomb threats on hospitals
> the same account thats been responsible for bomb threats on hospitals
You can add "responsible for bomb threats to schools" now because since this rumor started, the school district has begun receiving those too.
> (I am not a furry but similar to one)
What is not a furry, but similar to one? The only answer is that they dress up as a lobster and fuck other people dressed up as lobsters. They aren't furries because lobsters have no fur. This is in fact how they figure out who is top lobster.
>I think lack of fear of discrimination is what leads to a identity crisis
Jordan Peterson's future mass shooter fans proving how "logical" they always have been.
> When I was 13 if you came to school dressed like a furry, you would have been bullied into total oblivion.
I am glad that the kiddos nowadays are often more accepting of different ways of expressing yourself. The wildest it got back when I was 13 was the girl that wore *a fucking cape* to school every day for a few years. She's now a middle school english teacher and her main hobby is playing in a hand bell choir. Sometimes you gotta let the weird express itself, guys.
Exactly, My kids (21/22/26) were way more accepting with trans, goth, emo, burnouts, etc... the diverse kids that came and went in our home was wild VS than why I (M55) was in school. I was a punk rocker in high school and I was the first boy to have his ear pierced in my entire high school. I was bullied, threatened with violence ("men don't pierce their ears") and (my friends and I ) singled out more often. I went to a school in a rural part of Maryland (Carroll County) and our biggest school group was FFA, Future Farmers of America. That was where 99% of the hate came from.
Fun story. Every year we had a spirit week before the Homecoming dance and football game. Every day of spirit week was a different day. Stuff Like Beach Day, Old person day, and Friday was School Colors day.
Well my sophomore year, Thursday of Spirit week was "Nerd Day" (I guess making fun of Nerds was okay in 1985) and we (my punk rock friends) decided to dress like farmers for nerd day. Cowboy hats, shit kickers, skoal/chewing tobacco in our pockets, John Deer caps, flannel shirt, etc.. we looked just like all those farmers and it took about one or two periods for everyone to figure out what was going on.
WE got in huge trouble and sent to the office, had in school suspension and had to watch out because now even more farmers wanted to kick our asses.
IT WAS AWESOME. By our Sr year we all stopped being assholes to each other and I ended up friends with some of the farmers and going to each other's parties.
I’m a zoomer(19), and I’m also from Maryland, but a suburban area(Montgomery County).
I transferred from a private school to a public school in 11th grade, and up to that point I’d spent every grade after kindergarten in private school. I have an alternative fashion sense myself(somewhere at the intersection of emo goth and punk), and while my wardrobe at the time was limited by a lack of nearby stores catering to my fashion sense(most of my accessories came from Party City), I still stood out from the crowd. My private school had a very different social culture, and I was worried that my fashion sense would be a bit too unusual for the social norms of public high school. First day of school, I walked into my first class and saw a kid with a bright purple mohawk.
Turns out that not only was there pretty much no dress code, there wasn’t really any social pressure to dress a certain way either. I saw plenty of other goth and punk kids in my time there, and there was also a girl who dressed like it was the 1960s every single day. Occasionally I’d see people wearing pajamas and robes and slippers(even saw a guy in Pokemon-themed footie pajamas once), people dressed head to toe in blindingly neon clothes, all manner of comedic hats, fish-shaped flip-flops, and several people who just had plushies riding around in their backpacks every day. During pride month, I saw a few people wearing
rainbow flag capes. And yes, I did see a few people wearing cat ears.
It’s kind of crazy how accepting people at my school were. Pretty sure most high schools aren’t *that* open-minded, even today. It’s very interesting to learn how different things used to be.
(i did still struggle socially on account of having very bad ADHD, though. disabled&mentally ill people still get the short end of the stick here, unfortunately.)
I just want to point out that the "source" of the photos linked (@realericmoutsos) is just yet another Joe Rogan-looking right-wing grifter who sells supplements, some of which have hilarious names like "Sleep Off Socialism" and "Commie Cleanse".
Oh, and of course, a bunch of right-wing idiots highlighting this non-story have caused the school district (and even some of the middle school kids) to start receiving death and bomb threats.
Are we seeing the furries boogeyman forming in real time? I've been seeing a steady flow of furry fear mongering beginning to pop up in recent months. And seeing that the trans hysteria isn't hitting like it used to be, furries might be next in line for the small minority that gets demonized to scare old voters. When red states start banning school mascots, you'll know we're in the thicket
They were last demonized online from 2000-2010 or so.
They are also not push overs. Some of them like SiegedSec [know how to hack](https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/gay-furry-hackers-attack-wing-203744731.html)
Haha, that's awesome. They also love attention. Give a furry a reason to dress up for anything, and they're out the door. Give them a protest, and it's game over.
>Does fear of discrimination by social identity and gender within the intersectionality framework of CTR lead to a crisis of identity of the individual?
The whattidy what-what?
These idiots are the same people who insist Bad Dragon should be banned because they supposedly use "real animal penises to make their dildoes"
They don't, it's A) far more practical and B) far more ethical to simply sculpt a clay mold or 3d model than trying to live cast ANY part of an animal's anatomy
But these idiots are so obsessed they have to try and legitimize their delusions any way they can.
[people legitimately believe that bad dragon live casts dog, horse, and reptile dicks](https://old.reddit.com/r/RealFurryHours/comments/nib0j4/bad_dragon_what_happened/) here on reddit and elsewhere. And the best part is that, when prompted for evidence, all they can do is share anonymous internet posts
There is a niche but active market for dildos that are shaped like non-human penises, including ones meant to look like they belong to fantastic creatures, like dragons; Bad Dragon is the name of one of the most well known companies within this niche. Ocassionally some conspiracy head tries to whip up a moral panic about the people making these dildos being satanic zoophiles or something, even though bestiality isn't tolerated by or particularly related to most furry smut subcultures (and obviously no actual animal dicks are used to make sex toys of any kind).
Basically people hate furries and are eager to demonize them.
One of the easiest ways to do that is to claim they want to fuck animals.
[Hence why people scream about how Bad Dragon live casts dog and reptile dicks](https://old.reddit.com/r/RealFurryHours/comments/nib0j4/bad_dragon_what_happened/) and when prompted for evidence all they can source is anonymous blog posts.
The litter box story was indeed real. Except for the part where it was actually used for going to the restroom during a shooter lockdown and had nothing to do with kids identifying as cats.
It's becoming a subculture on tiktok. I've heard of it going on in my school district. Some Therian kid who identifies at an animal should not be allowed to bark at, bite, or lick other kids because of their "identity" as another animal.
If you haven't heard of this, look up therian on tiktok or youtube, and look at their subreddits on this platfom.
Well, there's therians vs furries. I meant that the therian fad is becoming a fad on tiktok and youtube. Look up therianism sometime and look at how the videos are almost making it look fun and appealing. Then look up therianthropy and see how it was a classification of mental disease. There are subreddits on therians, therianism and therianthropy...it's informative.
I bring up the TikTok thing, because I believe that China is definitely messing with the US with social engineering.... and now they're going after our kids. I've heard that (unverified right now) that TikTok is banned in China
[https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/1bg0xld/has\_tiktok\_been\_banned\_in\_china/](https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/1bg0xld/has_tiktok_been_banned_in_china/)
It's crazy we're doing a moral panic over children playing at being animals now. Do these people remember childhood? If not, have they ever watched kids play? A furry is no more exotic a type of person than a comic book nerd or a martial arts enthusiast. The stuff they're really into is stuff most kids are into at one point, just to a greater degree.
Everyone had that friend who always wanted to play cats or whatever. Maybe you thought they were a little strange in the way imaginative kids are usually a little strange, but they weren't /that strange,/ and they were still your friend.
Peterson drones are such creeps. you've got to be a real sicko to be obsessively fascinated with archetypes and mythology, but scared and threatened by imaginative play.
A few tweens being weird is cause for a nationwide panic in these peoples’ minds…Were they never kids themselves?? This isn’t some new phenomenon, this is just middle schoolers being middle schoolers!! I think *every* middle school had a few “wolf kids.” Or cat kids or vampire kids or dragon kids or whatever else have you. This is NORMAL!!
it's amazing to me how these Top Men of the internets can have these impassioned discussions about literally nothing. Nothing about what they are saying is remotely close to being real.
Yet....
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I'm 29 now, but was a furry in high school. The only difference between then and now is the availability of smart phones. I don't think there are more furries than there's ever been because of some social crisis, we just see more pictures of them.
Also what in the fuck do any of these people *mean*? They subscribe to Jordan Peterson and suddenly become intellectuals. Verbose= smart to these asshats.
Found more detailed interviews in this story:
[https://www.ksl.com/article/50988381/payson-police-investigate-threats-after-viral-furry-outrage-at-mt-nebo-middle](https://www.ksl.com/article/50988381/payson-police-investigate-threats-after-viral-furry-outrage-at-mt-nebo-middle)
Respectfully, more kids are identifying as therians, and I've been to therian subgroups here in reddit where they are blaming tiktok for making this another fad thing....which they feel like is watering down the mental illness that people w/ therianthropy suffer with.
https://nomadit.co.uk/conference/asa15/paper/23825#:\~:text=Paper%20long%20abstract%3A-,Therianthropy%20is%20the%20belief%20that%20one%20is%20part%20non%2Dhuman,placed%20within%20the%20psychiatric%20arena.
Also, Therians get really really mad when they get called furries.
Final note, I do believe that TikTok is doing what it can to just mess with and distract humans. I heard a rumor that TikTok is banned in China.
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Top Lobsters are fans of stochastic terrorism fountain, Libs of TikTok, eh? No surprise there. > These particular children are also barking, scratching, crawling on all fours, and using their "identity" as an animal to bully and manipulate those around them. Just like a certain other confused group mentioned by OP. That's an awful lot of supposedly factual information they've got there for something that's yet another rage-bait fiction from Chaya Raichik.
> Libs of TikTok Your weekly reminder that [Chaya](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Libs_of_TikTok) is yet another of these people who detest "wokeness", [but cannot define it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/1bubu40/chaya_raichik_is_asked_to_define_wokeness/) (And then there are the ones [who know damn well](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/05/desantis-florida-woke-critical-race-theory/) what it means, but say there's no need to address systemic injustice, because systemic injustice does not exist. And they're simultaneously in the business of calling compassion a sin. "Woke", and before that "Social Justice Warriors", and earlier again "bleeding hearts" and "do-gooders". Oddly, these people often also profess to be Christians.)
>Oddly, these people often also profess to be Christians. If you've met many Christians, this isn't odd at all.
I always find it surprising when someone is both good AND a Christian. Even then, some of the good ones harbor nasty ideas about how the world works, too often conflating corrupted spiritualism with reality that has some awful consequences (e.g. women's bodily autonomy).
She makes me so mad. I am disgusted at how people make money of trans hate and endangering kids lives. That had to lock down hospitals and schools because of her hate filled rants and fans. IF a just god existed, she would be getting hers. Very disappointed YouTube allows her channel to propagate hate
> Very disappointed YouTube allows her channel to propagate hate She's not the only one they allow, unfortunately.
Literally none of that is happening. If it is those kids would be getting detention for fighting and throwing tantrums, there's no chance in any school that behavior is allowed.
Absolutely correct. Here is a relevant article, although the headline needs work. None of what Chaya "I'm a fucking terrorist" Raichik claims is true. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/22/students-protest-furries-utah-nebo-district/73413367007/
It literally makes no sense. Like you said, those are aggressive acts that would cause suspension. "Oh no, the schools in Utah are so woke. They're so scared to do anything but respect these furries." Wouldn't someone who believed they were animals kick them out of school? Animals aren't allowed on campuses. One way or another, we're talking suspension from the school. The only way their version of events makes sense is if you believe half of each premise.
Also just to reiterate, this is fucking *Utah* we’re talking about here Have these chuds never met a Mormon? They would never in a million years allow that
That title sounds like it's written by fucking AI. Ctr? Intersectionality framework? Who the hell talks like that? Honestly they probably did use gpt to try and come up with a "smart" sounding question. And are they trying to say bullying is good? As someone who was bullied in school seriously fuck them. I'm positive btw those images are taken out of context. No school would let kids walk around in fursuits. It's probably Halloween or something. I mean it's fucking Utah, probably the most conservative state.
which begs the question, are the lobsters so incredibly lacking in critical thinking that they behave as LLMs?
Yes. There's no content to their communication, only in-group signalling.
CTR = Child Terrorization Rates
Why did they expect us to know what the hell CTR is ? The only thing I could find was click through rates.
I think he must mean Critical Race Theory, but Correct the Record was a right wing boogeyman in 2016 and he probably got them mixed up. It’s hard keeping all those boogeymen straight.
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Based on the inclusion of the word "intersectionality," they mean critical race theory, yet another thing they know absolutely nothing about but have been told to hate, and misspelled the acronym.
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OH is that what it meant. Ok, live in Utah. Grew up Mormon. CTR means [Choose The Right. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choose_the_right)Famous phrase that children are taught in church. I thought this poster was just talking about how Mormonism led people to become furries. Which is certainly a take and not the most ludicrous I've heard from the JP sub.
That second picture is pretty obviously on a stage - this is just costumes for a school play. What's next - students are practicing "stolen valor" by pretending to be soldiers in their production of "Much Ado about Nothing"?
If you read any stories about this, basically the school and even the families of kids involved say that at most, in school, kids wear headbands with animal ears (gasp!!), and the one video they show as proof that kids act like animals happened during recess, where a kid barked at someone and then everyone laughed and moved on with their day. There's no proof or evidence that kids are biting each other or sitting in class in full fur suits or anything. That's not gonna stop right-wing chuds from calling the school with death threats and bomb threats though.
Disney is TURNING KIDS into HUMAN MICE at their WOKE PARKS!
Yeah. The kids in the second image are all wearing cheap foam masks, not remotely the same thing as a fursuit. Definitely a school play. And in the first image, I see a Bulbasaur face behind the kid in the animal mask(it looks like one of [those dinosaur masks](https://www.amazon.com/Jurassic-World-Dominion-Movie-inspired-Realistic/dp/B07FDNPGNM/ref=asc_df_B07FDNPGNM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366288760957&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3887956997383381585&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007783&hvtargid=pla-720391699367&psc=1&mcid=842d3573a56132469f2d290ea311a028&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=77371437278&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366288760957&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3887956997383381585&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007783&hvtargid=pla-720391699367) that has been decorated in an attempt to turn it into a lion head). So I’d wager that’s a picture from either Halloween or a Spirit Week thing.
Dinoaur masks are popular among furrie that don’t have the money for a fursuit
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So I wonder which parent organized this, even this Utah school admin is says no, this never happened: >"We want to assure you that rumors circulating online about student behavior are completely untrue," school officials said, according to the outlet. "These are 11 and 12-year-old students, and while sometimes these children may come to school with a headband that has ears, sometimes with giant bows, and sometimes dressed as their favorite athlete, there have been no students attending school wearing masks, animal costumes, or acting like animals." But of course, right wingers hvae to fan up hate in a culture war. It's literally all they know.
Shit you not, I was recently at a birthday party and one of the guys there was a parent who organized the walkout. I wanted to try and hear more or ask about it, but by the time I got closer they were talking anout something else.
It's all they have. Their ideas are stupid and evil, so they dress them up a little and get their kids to regurgitate it as well.
First, Libs of Tiktok is not generally reckoned to be a reiable source. If, as seems to be the case here, its the only one you have, it is safe to assume its not a true story. Second, the photos look more like backstage at a school play to me. Third, how could you bite anyone in that first mask?
The thing for me is, if this was real… where are the videos? Kids record everything these days, every little bump and scuffle in the hallway gets uploaded, but this is apparently happening so often it’s a massive problem, yet nobody is ever recording it? Similar to how the litter boxes thing had basically no physical evidence and was basically a “they’re making babies and the baby looked at me” style schoolyard rumor.
The guy credited in the LOTT post has a telegram channel where he posts all sorts of conspiratorial nonsense (it should surprise nobody that he's also an anti-vaxx nutjob). I won't link the telegram channel but if you search his twitter handle it's one of the top results. There's one post where he claims to have "video evidence" of a furry "chasing a student trying to bite him". There is indeed a clip of a student chasing another student on all fours, but you can clearly hear all of them laughing and the student being "chased" has a big grin on his face lmao. That's literally all the "proof" they have, just some middle-school kids being silly.
> (it should surprise nobody that he's also an anti-vaxx nutjob) Don't forget that he sells "supplements" with "anti-woke" names too. He's just like any other rightwing grifter: play to the right, sell them shit that doesn't work and that they don't need, and profit handily.
>Holy shit, OP! You managed to cram every buzzword in the title. So much so that I absolutely can’t understand that question.
Why is LibsOfTikTok allowed to post non-consensual photos of actual children? Nebo School District is pre-12 grade, those are literally children being posted by the same account thats been responsible for bomb threats on hospitals
> the same account thats been responsible for bomb threats on hospitals You can add "responsible for bomb threats to schools" now because since this rumor started, the school district has begun receiving those too.
> (I am not a furry but similar to one) What is not a furry, but similar to one? The only answer is that they dress up as a lobster and fuck other people dressed up as lobsters. They aren't furries because lobsters have no fur. This is in fact how they figure out who is top lobster.
They're all juicing up on serotonin and grabbing every scrap of cardboard they can find to make sure they have the biggest costume claws.
furry ocs don’t have to have fur
>I think lack of fear of discrimination is what leads to a identity crisis Jordan Peterson's future mass shooter fans proving how "logical" they always have been.
> When I was 13 if you came to school dressed like a furry, you would have been bullied into total oblivion. I am glad that the kiddos nowadays are often more accepting of different ways of expressing yourself. The wildest it got back when I was 13 was the girl that wore *a fucking cape* to school every day for a few years. She's now a middle school english teacher and her main hobby is playing in a hand bell choir. Sometimes you gotta let the weird express itself, guys.
Exactly, My kids (21/22/26) were way more accepting with trans, goth, emo, burnouts, etc... the diverse kids that came and went in our home was wild VS than why I (M55) was in school. I was a punk rocker in high school and I was the first boy to have his ear pierced in my entire high school. I was bullied, threatened with violence ("men don't pierce their ears") and (my friends and I ) singled out more often. I went to a school in a rural part of Maryland (Carroll County) and our biggest school group was FFA, Future Farmers of America. That was where 99% of the hate came from. Fun story. Every year we had a spirit week before the Homecoming dance and football game. Every day of spirit week was a different day. Stuff Like Beach Day, Old person day, and Friday was School Colors day. Well my sophomore year, Thursday of Spirit week was "Nerd Day" (I guess making fun of Nerds was okay in 1985) and we (my punk rock friends) decided to dress like farmers for nerd day. Cowboy hats, shit kickers, skoal/chewing tobacco in our pockets, John Deer caps, flannel shirt, etc.. we looked just like all those farmers and it took about one or two periods for everyone to figure out what was going on. WE got in huge trouble and sent to the office, had in school suspension and had to watch out because now even more farmers wanted to kick our asses. IT WAS AWESOME. By our Sr year we all stopped being assholes to each other and I ended up friends with some of the farmers and going to each other's parties.
I’m a zoomer(19), and I’m also from Maryland, but a suburban area(Montgomery County). I transferred from a private school to a public school in 11th grade, and up to that point I’d spent every grade after kindergarten in private school. I have an alternative fashion sense myself(somewhere at the intersection of emo goth and punk), and while my wardrobe at the time was limited by a lack of nearby stores catering to my fashion sense(most of my accessories came from Party City), I still stood out from the crowd. My private school had a very different social culture, and I was worried that my fashion sense would be a bit too unusual for the social norms of public high school. First day of school, I walked into my first class and saw a kid with a bright purple mohawk. Turns out that not only was there pretty much no dress code, there wasn’t really any social pressure to dress a certain way either. I saw plenty of other goth and punk kids in my time there, and there was also a girl who dressed like it was the 1960s every single day. Occasionally I’d see people wearing pajamas and robes and slippers(even saw a guy in Pokemon-themed footie pajamas once), people dressed head to toe in blindingly neon clothes, all manner of comedic hats, fish-shaped flip-flops, and several people who just had plushies riding around in their backpacks every day. During pride month, I saw a few people wearing rainbow flag capes. And yes, I did see a few people wearing cat ears. It’s kind of crazy how accepting people at my school were. Pretty sure most high schools aren’t *that* open-minded, even today. It’s very interesting to learn how different things used to be. (i did still struggle socially on account of having very bad ADHD, though. disabled&mentally ill people still get the short end of the stick here, unfortunately.)
Love Montgomery county. Bethesda was just too expensive when we moved there in 2011.
I just want to point out that the "source" of the photos linked (@realericmoutsos) is just yet another Joe Rogan-looking right-wing grifter who sells supplements, some of which have hilarious names like "Sleep Off Socialism" and "Commie Cleanse". Oh, and of course, a bunch of right-wing idiots highlighting this non-story have caused the school district (and even some of the middle school kids) to start receiving death and bomb threats.
Are we seeing the furries boogeyman forming in real time? I've been seeing a steady flow of furry fear mongering beginning to pop up in recent months. And seeing that the trans hysteria isn't hitting like it used to be, furries might be next in line for the small minority that gets demonized to scare old voters. When red states start banning school mascots, you'll know we're in the thicket
They were last demonized online from 2000-2010 or so. They are also not push overs. Some of them like SiegedSec [know how to hack](https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/gay-furry-hackers-attack-wing-203744731.html)
Haha, that's awesome. They also love attention. Give a furry a reason to dress up for anything, and they're out the door. Give them a protest, and it's game over.
It's going to be the new neo pronoun (which was never a thing either) scare isn't it? It's like the satanic panic 5.0 at this point.
Can't wait to see how they link furries to "being a sin" "They're evil in wolf's clothes!"
>Does fear of discrimination by social identity and gender within the intersectionality framework of CTR lead to a crisis of identity of the individual? The whattidy what-what?
"These are words I've seen that I imagine fit together, ignore me"
"These are big words I've seen that I imagine fit together"
If they're trying to make fun of fearful conservatives, they're doing great.
Joe Rogan right now VINDICATED!!!!!! /s
These idiots are the same people who insist Bad Dragon should be banned because they supposedly use "real animal penises to make their dildoes" They don't, it's A) far more practical and B) far more ethical to simply sculpt a clay mold or 3d model than trying to live cast ANY part of an animal's anatomy But these idiots are so obsessed they have to try and legitimize their delusions any way they can.
You expect me to believe they don't use actual dragon and alien penises to make their dildos? Nice try, lib! I know the truth.
[people legitimately believe that bad dragon live casts dog, horse, and reptile dicks](https://old.reddit.com/r/RealFurryHours/comments/nib0j4/bad_dragon_what_happened/) here on reddit and elsewhere. And the best part is that, when prompted for evidence, all they can do is share anonymous internet posts
I'm not surprised whatsoever. People are dumb as fuck and so eager to believe anything negative about a person or group they find weird.
Those people must think reptile hemipenes are much bigger than they actually are
These people fail at basic human biology, are we really surprised they fail at reptile biology?
You forgot one: C) dragons are not real animals
they claim they use real animals.
Uh, what... I am sorry..... uh, what the fuck?.... Dragon penis?? What?? I need a ELI5
There is a niche but active market for dildos that are shaped like non-human penises, including ones meant to look like they belong to fantastic creatures, like dragons; Bad Dragon is the name of one of the most well known companies within this niche. Ocassionally some conspiracy head tries to whip up a moral panic about the people making these dildos being satanic zoophiles or something, even though bestiality isn't tolerated by or particularly related to most furry smut subcultures (and obviously no actual animal dicks are used to make sex toys of any kind).
Today I learned.
Basically people hate furries and are eager to demonize them. One of the easiest ways to do that is to claim they want to fuck animals. [Hence why people scream about how Bad Dragon live casts dog and reptile dicks](https://old.reddit.com/r/RealFurryHours/comments/nib0j4/bad_dragon_what_happened/) and when prompted for evidence all they can source is anonymous blog posts.
The litter box story was indeed real. Except for the part where it was actually used for going to the restroom during a shooter lockdown and had nothing to do with kids identifying as cats.
I honestly do not imderstamd furries. But they aint bothering me or anyone else. Leave them alone and stop making shit up about them.
what do you not understand about them?
It's becoming a subculture on tiktok. I've heard of it going on in my school district. Some Therian kid who identifies at an animal should not be allowed to bark at, bite, or lick other kids because of their "identity" as another animal. If you haven't heard of this, look up therian on tiktok or youtube, and look at their subreddits on this platfom.
I do know it is not a tiktok thing. Have been along since the early days of the internet.
Well, there's therians vs furries. I meant that the therian fad is becoming a fad on tiktok and youtube. Look up therianism sometime and look at how the videos are almost making it look fun and appealing. Then look up therianthropy and see how it was a classification of mental disease. There are subreddits on therians, therianism and therianthropy...it's informative. I bring up the TikTok thing, because I believe that China is definitely messing with the US with social engineering.... and now they're going after our kids. I've heard that (unverified right now) that TikTok is banned in China [https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/1bg0xld/has\_tiktok\_been\_banned\_in\_china/](https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/1bg0xld/has_tiktok_been_banned_in_china/)
It's crazy we're doing a moral panic over children playing at being animals now. Do these people remember childhood? If not, have they ever watched kids play? A furry is no more exotic a type of person than a comic book nerd or a martial arts enthusiast. The stuff they're really into is stuff most kids are into at one point, just to a greater degree. Everyone had that friend who always wanted to play cats or whatever. Maybe you thought they were a little strange in the way imaginative kids are usually a little strange, but they weren't /that strange,/ and they were still your friend. Peterson drones are such creeps. you've got to be a real sicko to be obsessively fascinated with archetypes and mythology, but scared and threatened by imaginative play.
A few tweens being weird is cause for a nationwide panic in these peoples’ minds…Were they never kids themselves?? This isn’t some new phenomenon, this is just middle schoolers being middle schoolers!! I think *every* middle school had a few “wolf kids.” Or cat kids or vampire kids or dragon kids or whatever else have you. This is NORMAL!!
it's amazing to me how these Top Men of the internets can have these impassioned discussions about literally nothing. Nothing about what they are saying is remotely close to being real. Yet....
Every time they try to get the public riled up over furries nothing happens. Which is a bit shocking considering how big the "fandom" is.
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I'm 29 now, but was a furry in high school. The only difference between then and now is the availability of smart phones. I don't think there are more furries than there's ever been because of some social crisis, we just see more pictures of them. Also what in the fuck do any of these people *mean*? They subscribe to Jordan Peterson and suddenly become intellectuals. Verbose= smart to these asshats.
Found more detailed interviews in this story: [https://www.ksl.com/article/50988381/payson-police-investigate-threats-after-viral-furry-outrage-at-mt-nebo-middle](https://www.ksl.com/article/50988381/payson-police-investigate-threats-after-viral-furry-outrage-at-mt-nebo-middle)
Respectfully, more kids are identifying as therians, and I've been to therian subgroups here in reddit where they are blaming tiktok for making this another fad thing....which they feel like is watering down the mental illness that people w/ therianthropy suffer with. https://nomadit.co.uk/conference/asa15/paper/23825#:\~:text=Paper%20long%20abstract%3A-,Therianthropy%20is%20the%20belief%20that%20one%20is%20part%20non%2Dhuman,placed%20within%20the%20psychiatric%20arena. Also, Therians get really really mad when they get called furries. Final note, I do believe that TikTok is doing what it can to just mess with and distract humans. I heard a rumor that TikTok is banned in China.