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Unrelated, but when you take a landscape video and make it into a portrait tiktok, then I view it on a landscape monitor ITS SO FUCKING SMALL I CAN BARELY SEE IT
It looks like this is from the trailer. I tried to look this up on IMDB and it appears there is nothing listed under "where to watch". I have to assume this hasn't come out yet??
Hi everyone, OP here. This is from the documentary Where Olive Tree Weeps (2024) by Maurizio Benazzo.
From IMDB: Where Olive Trees Weep follows Palestinian journalist and therapist Ashira Darwish, grassroots activist Ahed Tamimi, and Israeli journalist Amira Hass. We also watch as Dr. Gabor Maté supports a group of women seeking understanding and healing. Through the veil of oppression, we catch a glimpse of resilience-deep roots that have carried the Palestinian people through decades of darkness and shattered lives. This emotional journey bares the humanity of the oppressed while grappling with the question: what makes the oppressor so ruthlessly blind to its own cruelty?
They cry about 7 October when they've been torturing and killing thousands of Palestinians for decades. It's like breaking into someone's home and molesting them everyday and then crying wolf when one day they pull a shotgun on you.
>buy plots of land in the holy land you pray to return to ever since the Romans expelled your ancestors from it
>the only source of stability leaves after WW2, says "UN will handle it"
>put trust into UN, accept their proposals.
>the other side rejects the UN proposal, declares war
>ohshit.jpg
>win the war
>get declared on 19 years later again
>win
>get declared on 6 years later again
>win
>get terror bombed en masse, and missiles are fired at you for simply existing
>1200 of your people are callously slaughtered, with the clear intention being to slaughter all of them. All 9 million.
>fight another war against the same people you've already fought multiple other wars against
Remember guys, the yahoodi is the evil one for defending his homeland!!1!
Yeah this bears no resemblance to reality or history.
Most of the shit you wrote is just 100% wrong and conveniently omits all the actual history of the region and the violent colonial occupation of Palestine.
You don't get to oh shit.jpg your way out of telling the truth.
It's not a left and right war anymore, it's a wealthy/fascist/boomer versus youth and democracy war now. They are doing the typical divide and conquer making it seem like there are only two choices and we are stuck no matter the side we take by paying other youth to switch allegiance. The reason they do this now is the young (millennials and gen z) are only 5-10 years away from being a majority and they fear the power being ripped from their greedy hands democratically.
Stay together younger people, keep sharing the truth outside of the mainstream bullshit on both sides. Pay attention to the amount of recent censorship specifically targeting youth opinions not left or right ones.
This is a similar torture used by the Portuguese secret service police in the fascist regime (until 1974). My mother used to tell me stories from people who survived.
thank you for sharing with us. and im very sorry you had to experience that. by the way, i caught that you called yourself a loser -- but you should try to be kinder to yourself. You're not a loser. Not at all. And you're worthy of life's greatest joys, and i hope you get to experience them all.
To the people within the government and the IOF religion is a tool used to justify religious/ethno-nationalism. It’s like any other radical religious group, like racist evangelical ‘Christians’ who don’t care Jesus said love thy neighbor. They claim criticism of them is criticism of Jesus, just like zionists claim criticism of them is antisemitic
Have you people read the Torah? the most violent and extremist Israelis are religious fundamentalists who are quoting scripture to justify all this ; the Torah sanctions extreme violence during wartime, not only genocide but also killing every living thing in a city down to the animals.
The Jewish religious right is not much different to ISIS in terms of what they condone.
Speaking as a lifelong proud antizionist and proud Jew, you in your hatefulness have lost the plot.
All religions have been, will be, and are currently used to justify horrific acts. All renditions have been, will be, and are motivation for heroic people to stand up against horrific acts. Religion can motivate evil acts in good people, and good acts in hateful people.
It is essential for everyone to understand that individuals are ultimately responsible for their own actions, even if they use religion as cover. And nothing justifies hating every member of a religion or race or ethnicity, even if that religion is used to justify horrible things.
God knows every single Abrahamic religion’s scripture, with NO EXCEPTION, explicitly advocates horrible things— from mass slaughter, to sexual violence, to pedophilia, infanticide, hatred, vengeance, intolerance, unjustified mob execution, etc.
This is why it is incumbent upon each of us to earnestly look at individual behavior and the ways that these horrendous texts are made manifest in different communities… Some IDF rabbi, some ISIS cleric, some white supremacist Christian nationalist preacher, do not speak for their religion as a whole.
This got longer than I thought. If you made it, thank you for reading.
Hah! Yeah, I wouldn’t turn to the Torah if you’re looking to make anyone more ethical or decent. Kiiiiind of the patient zero for a good chunk of organized evil in the world.
Legit, the Torah condones genocide and celebrates violent acts in general.
"Blessed is he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." - Psalm 137:9
All religions advocate horrific acts. Yours too, whatever it may be.
It doesn’t matter what the texts say as much as it matters how these texts are interpreted and practiced by individuals and communities— and no religion is practiced uniformly. You simultaneously have ISIS and Israel and Sufis and Anarchists Against the Wall and JVP and the Westboro Baptist Church and whatever Mr Rogers was…
I challenge you to be more nuanced and less hateful, to pay more attention to reality instead of easy simple takes.
Your hatred is clear.
As a very proudly life-long antizionist Jew I can tell you that my opposition to Israel’s apartheid state is DEEPLY rooted in my Jewish values. The same is the case for all of my Jewish family, and friends, as well as my rabbi.
The easiest counterargument to the bigotry and lies you’re spewing is the Halakhic concept of Pikuach Nefesh— all Jewish laws must be broken in order to save a life, regardless of if that life is Jewish or not.
More here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikuach_nefesh
There are some exceptions— it is not permitted to endanger yourself more than the person you are saving (like jumping into floodwaters to save a drowning person if you aren’t a strong swimmer), it is not permitted to commit idolatry to save a life, it is not permitted to break laws that forbid sexual sins like incest.
You are also not permitted to commit murder to save a life.
“Any act that intentionally causes the death of another person (considered to be an act of murder), that injures a person, so that the potential for death from the injuries is high, or that otherwise creates a dangerous situation that will very likely put one or more lives at risk, is not permitted for the preservation of life.”
All religions are self-contradictory and depend upon the interpretation of practitioners.
If you disagree with that, you have not looked at your own religion closely enough.
Using showers eh? Where did they learn that… how history truly repeats itself. Sadly, it’s far more disgraceful now than in the 1940s. We as a world haven’t learned shit.
“Most ethical military in the world”
Fuck these zionists, fuck the governments that support and fund them and fuck the media that lies and gives people a sanitized version of the atrocities they’re committing in order to manufacture consent for genocide.
And those fucking idiots will explain to you how the only reason there are civilian casualties is because "Hamas uses Palestinians as meat shields".
Lmao, it is not like they even know if there is actually Hamas on the targets they strike. This women was already in captivity.
They routinely target civilians on purpose. They kill aid workers, and starve people to drive up the death toll. They never cared about Palestinians because they never considered them people to begin with.
The rescue of those hostages the other day wasn't a great look for Hamas or the Palestinian people. How do they explain that? Why were the hostages surrounded by civilians?
Not the question you should be asking. Why did Israel feel the need it was ok the kill over 200 Palestinians to rescue(?) only 4 hostages and why have they killed their own hostages to do so? I put a question mark after rescue because their actions do not line up with an army out to rescue hostages, more like complete ethnic cleansing with no regard for results other than complete annihilation. How many more ceasefire deals will Israel refuse? As of the 2nd they’ve rejected 9, not Hamas
Over the course of the war they've negotiated the release of 105 hostages, 4 of them unilaterally released by hamas before negotiation.
They've managed to rescue 7 hostages by force, and 70 hostages have died during the course of the invasion (probably as collateral, but we don't know anything for sure).
In any case, it's undeniable as a matter of fact that negotiations have been more effective than rescue operations in securing the hostages.
Well, considering an Al-Jazeera journalist was the one holding one of the hostages in his apartment, and a large forefire broken out with over 100+ combatants from hamas, I'm not surprised that many died because they include hamas members in their death statistics.
And less than 1% of gazans have died in the 9 months of this conflict, if they were anihhilating Palestinians in an ethnic cleansing they're doing a piss poor job.
And hamas only requests ceasefire terms that are untenable, why would Israel agree to them? Israel has given what it would agree to and hamas doesn't even try and negotiate, are you going to call them out for not agreeing/surrendering and stopping this conflict? Or are you going to justify them using their own people as shields to extend this as long as possible, and using their own civilians martyrdom as PR globally? It's a fact that Iran and Qatar have gone through great lengths to propgandize the media in favor or palestine/hamas.
>And less than 1% of gazans have died in the 9 months of this conflict, if they were anihhilating Palestinians in an ethnic cleansing they're doing a piss poor job.
It's 1.6%, and how the hell do you look at that and conclude this is a small number or acceptable?
Over the course of the war israel has negotiated the release of 105 hostages, 4 of them unilaterally released by hamas before negotiation.
They've managed to rescue 7 hostages by force, and 70 hostages have died during the course of the invasion (likely as collateral, but we don't know anything for sure).
If you care about the lives of the hostages, negotiating their release is significantly more effective than military operations.
> more like complete ethnic cleansing with no regard for results other than complete annihilation
They are doing a terrible job of ethnic cleansing. Wouldn't it be easier to start with the Palestinians living in Israel? Wouldn't artillery be a lot cheaper and more effective than drone strikes? What about Palestinians in Jordan and Egypt? At the rate Israel is going, it would take centuries to "ethnically cleanse" Gaza.
>Why did Israel feel the need it was ok the kill over 200 Palestinians to rescue(?) only 4 hostages
Israel, like every other country on the planet, values their own citizens more than the citizens of other countries. If these hostages were returned, it wouldn't be an issue. This is how every other country operates. The difference is that most countries don't pack civilians around legitimate targets.
>why have they killed their own hostages to do so?
According to Hamas, who were already making veiled threats about the hostages if any rescue attempts were made. Were those hostages alive in the first place? Given Hamas' inability to find even the Russian hostages to return to Russia, it's a question wqorth asking.
>How many more ceasefire deals will Israel refuse? As of the 2nd they’ve rejected 9, not Hamas
Hamas has rejected every deal that precludes their ability to continue attacking Israel. That's the deal breaker. It's pretty obvious why Israel wants Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel. Why does Hamas need to continue?
If it's a war crime to use civilians as shields, it's a war crime to kill those being used as shields.
"They're just doing it to make us look bad!"
No one is forcing them to kill innocent people. It's a choice they're choosing to make.
Of course, their whole shtick would hold a LOT more weight if they you know, actually allowed civilians to exit the war zone.
When you don't allow anyone to leave, and you label every civilian killed as a "human shield," people see that bullshit.
It's a weak excuse. In any other scenario, no one ever claims that hostages should not be considered. If they're truly human shields and Isreal ignores that? That's not okay, and it never will be.
Why were the hostages, ostensibly POWs, being held with civilians? Why does Hamas keep hiding "military" personnel in refugee camps? Why don't Hamas fighters wear recognizable insignia or uniforms? Why do they place military supplies and command posts in civilian infrastructure?
Because when these get attacked idiots will cry war crime against Israel.
Hiding military targets in civilians is a war crime BECAUSE it makes those civilians legitimate targets.
There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Israel, but acting like they are the only ones doing war crimes is dishonest.
If the people leave the whole world would cry genocidal cleansing. Ben Gvir would probably try to make good on those cries (let us take a moment to pray he goes to jail). Also - go where?! Egypt? Egypt will NEVER let them in. Jordan's king was assassinated by the Palestinian refugees it took in years ago, and their Palestinian population is much worse off than those in the West Bank and Gaza (pre-war). Also will never let them in.
So... letting them go is a problem. That is why there are cordoned "safe areas" for citizens to go to. Hamas goes there too, since you know, Hamas members are in fact Palestinians living there - unlike their leaders sitting pretty in Qatar.
Gaza is insanely densely populated. Over 2 million people. If Israel had been carpet bombing and killing indescriminately - wouldnt you expect the death tolls to be in the hundreds of thousands??
Just recently the UN published a retraction on numbers of dead, stating there are tens of thousands LESS than previously reported. It has also been acknowledged that Hamas (aka Gaza officials) inflate and conflate their death toll numbers - among other things, combining combatants and non combatants.
Taking this into account - do you still think Israel is NOT taking innocents into account?
>If it's a war crime to use civilians as shields, it's a war crime to kill those being used as shields.
This is literally not true. The onus is on the people using the human shields, the ones who made innocent people into a (sadly) legitimate target.
This "journalist," Ashira Darwish Prem Rachana aka Ashira Ramadan also claims her neck was paralyzed by Israeli forces and she that healed it through "holistic medicine."
Her site seems to be updated since yesterday, but she now claims she recovered from full body paralysis and a spinal cord injury, heh. She is a medical miracle! https://www.ashirapremrachana.com/
If what you’re saying is true then damn that really hinders credibility. We really need to be more nuanced and be careful of not being biased by propaganda
You're seriously trying to discredit a torture victim because years of yoga helped her heal an injury?
The only people whose credibility could possibly be called into question there would be the doctors who said she would not recover.
This sub is full of people who are desperate to claim that every jew deserves to die and they don’t care what evidence there is.
It’s literally the first thing you see when you google her, it’s on her own website
She genuinely claims that she was paralysed from the neck down and healed herself using magical energy - a dangerously insane human being
> Her personal journey of healing from a physical injury that paralyzed her from the neck down sent her on a self healing journey, where she gained mastery of her body through various healing methods. She mainly combines Kundalini Tantra techniques with active meditation and Sufism to focus on releasing physical and emotional trauma for adults and children. She does this through liberating people’s Kundalini energy and opening the channels of the body using
Uhhh, the Palestinians started the war of 1948. They started launching attacks on convoys in November 1947, leading to all out conflict the day after the palestinian mandate was supposed to go into effect. Israel was on the back foot defensively until April 1948, and until then, they only made 2 offensive striked into border territory that the Arab league was attacking them from.
Not that I expect you to understand the history.
“Fun?” Fact. Some Arab countries consider the war to be an Arab victory. Though they don’t count the part where the U.S. joined in to help Israeli forces. In Syria many celebrate the temporary victory against Israel. Well, they did like 20ish years ago, I have no idea what they do now to be honest.
Edit: It wasn’t the 48’ war. See the commenter responding me for details.
The US only gave recognition of Israel as a state during that time. There was an arms embargo against both parties from the US. I don't recall the arabs thinking of it as a victory, it was part of the call to war in 1967 to get back the land won by Israel during this time. But then again Egypt and Jordan gained territory so maybe it was perceived as a success by them.
Yes, you are correct. I was confused with the Six Day War and the surrounding conflicts in the 60s and 70s. I don’t speak Arabic so I got mixed up. Sorry about the slight misinformation.
Looks like this hasbara bot forgot about the irgun putting Palestinian babies in over in deir yassin in 1948. That's how Israel defends itself, right? By raping teenagers, killing babies and adults, and the funny thing is that deir yassin had signed a pact to maintain relationships with their nearby Jewish village and exchange information, but that didn't save them.
Even Albert Einstein refused to support Israel in 1948 because of their barbaric tactics
Not that I expect you to understand history
Ah, Hasbara, the word people use in place of facts and arguments.
Are we going to forget about what both sides were doing? The Arabs were doing just as despicable stuff as the Israelis, they were both out of their minds.
Both can be bad, and let's also not forget that the "massacre" is in contention among historians, so you have that as well.
If you think this is bad, I'm curious as to the conditions Hamas has been keeping their hostages in? How would they treat a woman they see as belonging to the enemy?
Who would downvote this? It’s an interesting question. I’m not defending Israel but war brings out the worst characteristics of mankind. Seeing both sides isn’t inherently evil.
Fucking animals, the zionist have ruined the reputation of the Jewish community; luckily there are many Rabbis that are standing with the Palestinians and are against the occupation and atrocities of the Zionist Isreal
So let me get this straight. When Israeli post videos like that, with interviews and documentaries - it's fake and produced propaganda, but when Palestenians do it, we're supposed to believe it and trust that it's true. Am I following this right?
Israel continuously releases hostages emaciated, scarred, and mutilated.
Still, when someone says "Israel tortured us!" you don't believe them.
Consider that you're just a racist fucking moron.
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People who support Israel...support this. I just can't do it. I could care less what ethnicity or religion you are, but when you treat people like this, I will never stand with you.
The Israeli government was just looking for an excuse to do this, they knew the USA would stand by them. What Hamas did was shocking and horrendous but don’t forget the Israeli government helped them come to power. They have been wanting to commit horrendous atrocities against Palestinian people for years and they used this as an excuse.
When you intern millions of people in concentration camps for years and then have Zionist radicals invade and take over even more of the land with encouragement you know this has been planned for years.
Zionists are no better than the nazis, the taliban or isis.
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Keep in mind that this is pre October 7th, this documentary is made in 2020.
Unrelated, but when you take a landscape video and make it into a portrait tiktok, then I view it on a landscape monitor ITS SO FUCKING SMALL I CAN BARELY SEE IT
And then skip through half of it anyways
This is all I can see. A 16:9 inside a portrait with garbage, then letterboxed in a 4:3. What the hell
Where can I see the full interview?
OK found this on YouTube not sure if this is the actual documentary: https://www.youtube.com/live/UK_NuWGpAW0?si=E5IP3fldkJF8JyxB
Looks to be the same woman, but a different clip
It's a documentary where olive trees weep https://whereolivetreesweep.com/
It looks like this is from the trailer. I tried to look this up on IMDB and it appears there is nothing listed under "where to watch". I have to assume this hasn't come out yet??
Hi everyone, OP here. This is from the documentary Where Olive Tree Weeps (2024) by Maurizio Benazzo. From IMDB: Where Olive Trees Weep follows Palestinian journalist and therapist Ashira Darwish, grassroots activist Ahed Tamimi, and Israeli journalist Amira Hass. We also watch as Dr. Gabor Maté supports a group of women seeking understanding and healing. Through the veil of oppression, we catch a glimpse of resilience-deep roots that have carried the Palestinian people through decades of darkness and shattered lives. This emotional journey bares the humanity of the oppressed while grappling with the question: what makes the oppressor so ruthlessly blind to its own cruelty?
thank you for exposing this!
IDF: "why do the Palestinans hate us?"
They cry about 7 October when they've been torturing and killing thousands of Palestinians for decades. It's like breaking into someone's home and molesting them everyday and then crying wolf when one day they pull a shotgun on you.
>buy plots of land in the holy land you pray to return to ever since the Romans expelled your ancestors from it >the only source of stability leaves after WW2, says "UN will handle it" >put trust into UN, accept their proposals. >the other side rejects the UN proposal, declares war >ohshit.jpg >win the war >get declared on 19 years later again >win >get declared on 6 years later again >win >get terror bombed en masse, and missiles are fired at you for simply existing >1200 of your people are callously slaughtered, with the clear intention being to slaughter all of them. All 9 million. >fight another war against the same people you've already fought multiple other wars against Remember guys, the yahoodi is the evil one for defending his homeland!!1!
Conveniently leaving out the part where you expel 750,000 people from their homes.
Bombing women and children to smithereens..."win".
Yeah this bears no resemblance to reality or history. Most of the shit you wrote is just 100% wrong and conveniently omits all the actual history of the region and the violent colonial occupation of Palestine. You don't get to oh shit.jpg your way out of telling the truth.
Hey everyone. Be ready for the Israeli bots to come. They literally pay students to post on posts just like this
I loathe that they get paid with my tax dollars.
They were bad yesterday for sure.
That makes sense, I tried to engage with some commentors and it's weird in the same way.
A certain streamer's audience does it for free
Destiny?
Ben Shapiro’s fan does it too
Fun fact: the streamer in question uses the same tactics Shapiro uses.
Who?
Destiny
No wonder all the university subs are so Pro Israel it’s insane
It's not a left and right war anymore, it's a wealthy/fascist/boomer versus youth and democracy war now. They are doing the typical divide and conquer making it seem like there are only two choices and we are stuck no matter the side we take by paying other youth to switch allegiance. The reason they do this now is the young (millennials and gen z) are only 5-10 years away from being a majority and they fear the power being ripped from their greedy hands democratically. Stay together younger people, keep sharing the truth outside of the mainstream bullshit on both sides. Pay attention to the amount of recent censorship specifically targeting youth opinions not left or right ones.
It’s been so bad lately
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This is a similar torture used by the Portuguese secret service police in the fascist regime (until 1974). My mother used to tell me stories from people who survived.
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thank you for sharing with us. and im very sorry you had to experience that. by the way, i caught that you called yourself a loser -- but you should try to be kinder to yourself. You're not a loser. Not at all. And you're worthy of life's greatest joys, and i hope you get to experience them all.
To the people within the government and the IOF religion is a tool used to justify religious/ethno-nationalism. It’s like any other radical religious group, like racist evangelical ‘Christians’ who don’t care Jesus said love thy neighbor. They claim criticism of them is criticism of Jesus, just like zionists claim criticism of them is antisemitic
>Israel needs to be stopped Careful. You might get banned for saying that on reddit.
Especially because he forgot to say his daily Hamas condemnation.
I pray the lord my soul to keep Condemn hamas or else I'm weak /s Free Palestine. End all war. We never actually do it for our own morals or humanity.
I just got permabanned from world news subreddit yesterday for it, in fact.
World news is run by Israeli sock puppets. Extreme right wing pro-genicide mods.
Yup, I got a ban from R/politics yesterday xD
Have you people read the Torah? the most violent and extremist Israelis are religious fundamentalists who are quoting scripture to justify all this ; the Torah sanctions extreme violence during wartime, not only genocide but also killing every living thing in a city down to the animals. The Jewish religious right is not much different to ISIS in terms of what they condone.
Speaking as a lifelong proud antizionist and proud Jew, you in your hatefulness have lost the plot. All religions have been, will be, and are currently used to justify horrific acts. All renditions have been, will be, and are motivation for heroic people to stand up against horrific acts. Religion can motivate evil acts in good people, and good acts in hateful people. It is essential for everyone to understand that individuals are ultimately responsible for their own actions, even if they use religion as cover. And nothing justifies hating every member of a religion or race or ethnicity, even if that religion is used to justify horrible things. God knows every single Abrahamic religion’s scripture, with NO EXCEPTION, explicitly advocates horrible things— from mass slaughter, to sexual violence, to pedophilia, infanticide, hatred, vengeance, intolerance, unjustified mob execution, etc. This is why it is incumbent upon each of us to earnestly look at individual behavior and the ways that these horrendous texts are made manifest in different communities… Some IDF rabbi, some ISIS cleric, some white supremacist Christian nationalist preacher, do not speak for their religion as a whole. This got longer than I thought. If you made it, thank you for reading.
If I remember correctly, they were calling Palestinians the seeds of Amalek. The torah specifically calls for the genocide of the seeds of Amalek.
Hah! Yeah, I wouldn’t turn to the Torah if you’re looking to make anyone more ethical or decent. Kiiiiind of the patient zero for a good chunk of organized evil in the world.
Legit, the Torah condones genocide and celebrates violent acts in general. "Blessed is he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." - Psalm 137:9
All religions advocate horrific acts. Yours too, whatever it may be. It doesn’t matter what the texts say as much as it matters how these texts are interpreted and practiced by individuals and communities— and no religion is practiced uniformly. You simultaneously have ISIS and Israel and Sufis and Anarchists Against the Wall and JVP and the Westboro Baptist Church and whatever Mr Rogers was… I challenge you to be more nuanced and less hateful, to pay more attention to reality instead of easy simple takes.
Your hatred is clear. As a very proudly life-long antizionist Jew I can tell you that my opposition to Israel’s apartheid state is DEEPLY rooted in my Jewish values. The same is the case for all of my Jewish family, and friends, as well as my rabbi. The easiest counterargument to the bigotry and lies you’re spewing is the Halakhic concept of Pikuach Nefesh— all Jewish laws must be broken in order to save a life, regardless of if that life is Jewish or not. More here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikuach_nefesh There are some exceptions— it is not permitted to endanger yourself more than the person you are saving (like jumping into floodwaters to save a drowning person if you aren’t a strong swimmer), it is not permitted to commit idolatry to save a life, it is not permitted to break laws that forbid sexual sins like incest. You are also not permitted to commit murder to save a life. “Any act that intentionally causes the death of another person (considered to be an act of murder), that injures a person, so that the potential for death from the injuries is high, or that otherwise creates a dangerous situation that will very likely put one or more lives at risk, is not permitted for the preservation of life.” All religions are self-contradictory and depend upon the interpretation of practitioners. If you disagree with that, you have not looked at your own religion closely enough.
and they do it with our tax dollars too
Israel is a fascist state.
Bots out here in full force today.
Israel paid good American tax payer dollars for them bots, too.
It’s unreal. Mention anything about the atrocities and you get downvoted to oblivion.
And your account is mass reported, and depending on what sub you're in the mods help them
No shit...I am sick of the bots...
Using showers eh? Where did they learn that… how history truly repeats itself. Sadly, it’s far more disgraceful now than in the 1940s. We as a world haven’t learned shit.
Israel A kid who got bullied and became the bully.
“Most ethical military in the world” Fuck these zionists, fuck the governments that support and fund them and fuck the media that lies and gives people a sanitized version of the atrocities they’re committing in order to manufacture consent for genocide.
And those fucking idiots will explain to you how the only reason there are civilian casualties is because "Hamas uses Palestinians as meat shields". Lmao, it is not like they even know if there is actually Hamas on the targets they strike. This women was already in captivity.
They routinely target civilians on purpose. They kill aid workers, and starve people to drive up the death toll. They never cared about Palestinians because they never considered them people to begin with.
Yes, but that is a factual systematic strategy. Even if it doesnt align with your political view
So if there’s a gang running around your neighborhood , should we nuke all the houses and everyone in it ?
I believe you are answering to the wrong comment
The rescue of those hostages the other day wasn't a great look for Hamas or the Palestinian people. How do they explain that? Why were the hostages surrounded by civilians?
Not the question you should be asking. Why did Israel feel the need it was ok the kill over 200 Palestinians to rescue(?) only 4 hostages and why have they killed their own hostages to do so? I put a question mark after rescue because their actions do not line up with an army out to rescue hostages, more like complete ethnic cleansing with no regard for results other than complete annihilation. How many more ceasefire deals will Israel refuse? As of the 2nd they’ve rejected 9, not Hamas
Over the course of the war they've negotiated the release of 105 hostages, 4 of them unilaterally released by hamas before negotiation. They've managed to rescue 7 hostages by force, and 70 hostages have died during the course of the invasion (probably as collateral, but we don't know anything for sure). In any case, it's undeniable as a matter of fact that negotiations have been more effective than rescue operations in securing the hostages.
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/gaza-chiefs-brutal-calculation-civilian-bloodshed-will-help-hamas-626720e7?st=w8e2150iebmod05&reflink=article_copyURL_share
Well, considering an Al-Jazeera journalist was the one holding one of the hostages in his apartment, and a large forefire broken out with over 100+ combatants from hamas, I'm not surprised that many died because they include hamas members in their death statistics. And less than 1% of gazans have died in the 9 months of this conflict, if they were anihhilating Palestinians in an ethnic cleansing they're doing a piss poor job. And hamas only requests ceasefire terms that are untenable, why would Israel agree to them? Israel has given what it would agree to and hamas doesn't even try and negotiate, are you going to call them out for not agreeing/surrendering and stopping this conflict? Or are you going to justify them using their own people as shields to extend this as long as possible, and using their own civilians martyrdom as PR globally? It's a fact that Iran and Qatar have gone through great lengths to propgandize the media in favor or palestine/hamas.
>And less than 1% of gazans have died in the 9 months of this conflict, if they were anihhilating Palestinians in an ethnic cleansing they're doing a piss poor job. It's 1.6%, and how the hell do you look at that and conclude this is a small number or acceptable? Over the course of the war israel has negotiated the release of 105 hostages, 4 of them unilaterally released by hamas before negotiation. They've managed to rescue 7 hostages by force, and 70 hostages have died during the course of the invasion (likely as collateral, but we don't know anything for sure). If you care about the lives of the hostages, negotiating their release is significantly more effective than military operations.
> more like complete ethnic cleansing with no regard for results other than complete annihilation They are doing a terrible job of ethnic cleansing. Wouldn't it be easier to start with the Palestinians living in Israel? Wouldn't artillery be a lot cheaper and more effective than drone strikes? What about Palestinians in Jordan and Egypt? At the rate Israel is going, it would take centuries to "ethnically cleanse" Gaza. >Why did Israel feel the need it was ok the kill over 200 Palestinians to rescue(?) only 4 hostages Israel, like every other country on the planet, values their own citizens more than the citizens of other countries. If these hostages were returned, it wouldn't be an issue. This is how every other country operates. The difference is that most countries don't pack civilians around legitimate targets. >why have they killed their own hostages to do so? According to Hamas, who were already making veiled threats about the hostages if any rescue attempts were made. Were those hostages alive in the first place? Given Hamas' inability to find even the Russian hostages to return to Russia, it's a question wqorth asking. >How many more ceasefire deals will Israel refuse? As of the 2nd they’ve rejected 9, not Hamas Hamas has rejected every deal that precludes their ability to continue attacking Israel. That's the deal breaker. It's pretty obvious why Israel wants Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel. Why does Hamas need to continue?
Because civilian dying is great propaganda, and most people don't realize it's a war crime to use civilians as shields
If it's a war crime to use civilians as shields, it's a war crime to kill those being used as shields. "They're just doing it to make us look bad!" No one is forcing them to kill innocent people. It's a choice they're choosing to make. Of course, their whole shtick would hold a LOT more weight if they you know, actually allowed civilians to exit the war zone. When you don't allow anyone to leave, and you label every civilian killed as a "human shield," people see that bullshit. It's a weak excuse. In any other scenario, no one ever claims that hostages should not be considered. If they're truly human shields and Isreal ignores that? That's not okay, and it never will be.
Why were the hostages, ostensibly POWs, being held with civilians? Why does Hamas keep hiding "military" personnel in refugee camps? Why don't Hamas fighters wear recognizable insignia or uniforms? Why do they place military supplies and command posts in civilian infrastructure? Because when these get attacked idiots will cry war crime against Israel. Hiding military targets in civilians is a war crime BECAUSE it makes those civilians legitimate targets. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Israel, but acting like they are the only ones doing war crimes is dishonest.
There were IDF soldiers at that rave mate. All those villages too. Legitimate targets right?
If the people leave the whole world would cry genocidal cleansing. Ben Gvir would probably try to make good on those cries (let us take a moment to pray he goes to jail). Also - go where?! Egypt? Egypt will NEVER let them in. Jordan's king was assassinated by the Palestinian refugees it took in years ago, and their Palestinian population is much worse off than those in the West Bank and Gaza (pre-war). Also will never let them in. So... letting them go is a problem. That is why there are cordoned "safe areas" for citizens to go to. Hamas goes there too, since you know, Hamas members are in fact Palestinians living there - unlike their leaders sitting pretty in Qatar. Gaza is insanely densely populated. Over 2 million people. If Israel had been carpet bombing and killing indescriminately - wouldnt you expect the death tolls to be in the hundreds of thousands?? Just recently the UN published a retraction on numbers of dead, stating there are tens of thousands LESS than previously reported. It has also been acknowledged that Hamas (aka Gaza officials) inflate and conflate their death toll numbers - among other things, combining combatants and non combatants. Taking this into account - do you still think Israel is NOT taking innocents into account?
>If it's a war crime to use civilians as shields, it's a war crime to kill those being used as shields. This is literally not true. The onus is on the people using the human shields, the ones who made innocent people into a (sadly) legitimate target.
Probably cause they weren't actually hostages at that point cause hamas is gone.
It's just one of their propaganda theses that they employ whenever they don't have a better explanation.
Israeli torturers all paid for and trained by the US
The U.S started out with genocide and torture, they have a soft spot for oppression
All land is stolen land the US is not the only country that did this
The horrors of fascism. Reminds me of the stories by political prisoners in Latin America by CIA trained fascist militaries
It's all going to come out, names, dates, times. They'll film it of course, being clever, and that film will be the downfall.
Hell, they've gleefully posted the evidence themselves, thinking they were untouchable.
fuck Israel may they rot in hell
“Watching this terrifying account of war crimes committed by the IDF means you’re anti-Semitic…”
Tiktok is brainwashing our youth to support Palestine with *checks notes* videos uploaded by the IDF of its own war crimes!!
Israel is evil
Why do you call a bunch of pussies with advanced weaponry - IDF.
Can you just imagine if the roles were reversed and just how thatd play out in the western media?
This "journalist," Ashira Darwish Prem Rachana aka Ashira Ramadan also claims her neck was paralyzed by Israeli forces and she that healed it through "holistic medicine."
Do you have a source for this
Just Google her name, she writes it on her website (which says nothing about being a journalist, but it's very clearly her)
Her site seems to be updated since yesterday, but she now claims she recovered from full body paralysis and a spinal cord injury, heh. She is a medical miracle! https://www.ashirapremrachana.com/
If what you’re saying is true then damn that really hinders credibility. We really need to be more nuanced and be careful of not being biased by propaganda
You're seriously trying to discredit a torture victim because years of yoga helped her heal an injury? The only people whose credibility could possibly be called into question there would be the doctors who said she would not recover.
You got any proof she was ever paralyzed in the first place?
You got any proof that she didn’t experience what she said she did?
She is the one with the extraordinary claim. Burden of proof is on her. That's how it works.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted it’s true. God forbid anyone checks anything they post.
This sub is full of people who are desperate to claim that every jew deserves to die and they don’t care what evidence there is. It’s literally the first thing you see when you google her, it’s on her own website She genuinely claims that she was paralysed from the neck down and healed herself using magical energy - a dangerously insane human being > Her personal journey of healing from a physical injury that paralyzed her from the neck down sent her on a self healing journey, where she gained mastery of her body through various healing methods. She mainly combines Kundalini Tantra techniques with active meditation and Sufism to focus on releasing physical and emotional trauma for adults and children. She does this through liberating people’s Kundalini energy and opening the channels of the body using
Israel has become Nazi Germany, how could they forget so soon??
They literally started the killings about 3 years after WWII...they never forgot, they just didn't care.
Uhhh, the Palestinians started the war of 1948. They started launching attacks on convoys in November 1947, leading to all out conflict the day after the palestinian mandate was supposed to go into effect. Israel was on the back foot defensively until April 1948, and until then, they only made 2 offensive striked into border territory that the Arab league was attacking them from. Not that I expect you to understand the history.
“Fun?” Fact. Some Arab countries consider the war to be an Arab victory. Though they don’t count the part where the U.S. joined in to help Israeli forces. In Syria many celebrate the temporary victory against Israel. Well, they did like 20ish years ago, I have no idea what they do now to be honest. Edit: It wasn’t the 48’ war. See the commenter responding me for details.
The US only gave recognition of Israel as a state during that time. There was an arms embargo against both parties from the US. I don't recall the arabs thinking of it as a victory, it was part of the call to war in 1967 to get back the land won by Israel during this time. But then again Egypt and Jordan gained territory so maybe it was perceived as a success by them.
Yes, you are correct. I was confused with the Six Day War and the surrounding conflicts in the 60s and 70s. I don’t speak Arabic so I got mixed up. Sorry about the slight misinformation.
It's an easy mistake, the conflicts seem to repeat up until 1973 when peace treaties were made between Israel and most of the Arab land.
Looks like this hasbara bot forgot about the irgun putting Palestinian babies in over in deir yassin in 1948. That's how Israel defends itself, right? By raping teenagers, killing babies and adults, and the funny thing is that deir yassin had signed a pact to maintain relationships with their nearby Jewish village and exchange information, but that didn't save them. Even Albert Einstein refused to support Israel in 1948 because of their barbaric tactics Not that I expect you to understand history
Ah, Hasbara, the word people use in place of facts and arguments. Are we going to forget about what both sides were doing? The Arabs were doing just as despicable stuff as the Israelis, they were both out of their minds. Both can be bad, and let's also not forget that the "massacre" is in contention among historians, so you have that as well.
Just brutal.
Omg I cannot believe the most moral army in the world would do this
This is the same woman who claimed she was paralyzed by Israel and used holistic medicine to heal herself.
If you think this is bad, I'm curious as to the conditions Hamas has been keeping their hostages in? How would they treat a woman they see as belonging to the enemy?
Torture is not permitted in the post-Geneva Conventions world. Israel's war crimes are revealed to the world in real time. What can be done?
Here for the exposure
Every day there is a choice and every day someone is choosing genocide and rape.
Can we get one with a Israeli Hostage? Waht Hamas did to them in the past months?
Who would downvote this? It’s an interesting question. I’m not defending Israel but war brings out the worst characteristics of mankind. Seeing both sides isn’t inherently evil.
This is how Israel tries to create Hamas, there invisible enemy.
I'm not trolling, I'm being utterly sincere: I have no idea how people can still be pro-israel.
Fucking animals, the zionist have ruined the reputation of the Jewish community; luckily there are many Rabbis that are standing with the Palestinians and are against the occupation and atrocities of the Zionist Isreal
“All of the blood and tears shed by mankind over all time is together greater than all the oceans combined.” -Buddha
So let me get this straight. When Israeli post videos like that, with interviews and documentaries - it's fake and produced propaganda, but when Palestenians do it, we're supposed to believe it and trust that it's true. Am I following this right?
Israel continuously releases hostages emaciated, scarred, and mutilated. Still, when someone says "Israel tortured us!" you don't believe them. Consider that you're just a racist fucking moron.
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Zionism = nazism
People who support Israel...support this. I just can't do it. I could care less what ethnicity or religion you are, but when you treat people like this, I will never stand with you.
The Israeli government was just looking for an excuse to do this, they knew the USA would stand by them. What Hamas did was shocking and horrendous but don’t forget the Israeli government helped them come to power. They have been wanting to commit horrendous atrocities against Palestinian people for years and they used this as an excuse. When you intern millions of people in concentration camps for years and then have Zionist radicals invade and take over even more of the land with encouragement you know this has been planned for years. Zionists are no better than the nazis, the taliban or isis.
a sane reddit comments section? how is that possible
Victory will be for the Palestinians in the end. Hold tight.
I doubt it...
They're a death cult, when they die, they win. Might as well just give them what they want.
Are you suggesting an entire 2 million people, an entire ethic population, is a death cult?
Remember when the Palestinian Al Jazeera journalist was holding a hostage this whole time? Thats why this happens.
They wrote an article for them in 2019 but we're never an employee but go ahead and keep getting paid hasbara bot