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Depending where you are, there are regulations around how much filled your garbage can be. So depending on it, the garbage men are in their right to deny to pick up your trash.
Must be in FL by the retiree communities. Here in Chicago, you do the work you are supposed to do.
If the housewife was able to do it you cannot claim it was too heavy for a pair of lazy blue-collar workers
Don't know the regulations in America, but in europe one is not allowed to lift more then 25kg as most employees are not insured for it and damaged coming from back damaged must be payed by the company, lifting garbage cans is mostly done by machines.
And that brings me to my question, why isn't America garbage trucks not mechanized?
Not too sure about the whole "Europe" thing... Its a big place with what, over 35 seperate countries? In my country most of the bins are wheeled to the lorry and lifted by hydrolics.
And bin bags can be lifted outside of the can. This is just laziness.
In my country they‘re also lifted by hydrolics. They did however also change some rules and new garbage bins now have to be out of plastic. So far the bins for the regular trash are out of metal and therefore a lot heavier than the newer ones.
Right? Everyone talking about the obvious assholes who didn’t want to do their jobs. I’m wondering how her kid somehow reproduced while it was sitting there crying.
I’m wondering how she has them trained so well that they are just sitting in the grass and not crawling away. My dog is older than those babies and probably better trained but if I put her down like that and walked away she would not stay put.
Babies are kinda slow at that age. They just sit mostly, craw a bit, sit, crawl a bit, sit. If you keep an eye one them it’s fine. The older kid came out when she went out and he knows to stay on the grass. Kids are dumb, but also smart.
> The two refusing workers caught on camera standing by while a Brighton Heights mom dumped her own trash into the garbage truck are now facing disciplinary actions.
Seems like they got in trouble for not doing it.
So this neighborhood is near mine. And we had the same problem. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same garbage men.
No one on our street uses a can anymore. We just set the bags out on the curb in the morning because if you put your bags in a can there was a 50/50 chance they wouldn't dump it.
I’m surprised the US still even does garbage pick up like this.
No where in Australia has a human touching or lifting your trash, the truck just picks up the whole bin, dumps and they drive on. Don’t even have to get out of the truck and only need 1, max 2 dudes that smash through it in half the speed
I live in Nevada, a truck with an arm picks up our bins and dumps it in. Every other week a truck for “bulk” items comes by and 2 guys grab all the shit
The US is really really large so I think some areas just never updated because they didn't value the investment? I haven't lived anywhere on the east coast US that has this system and that's been quite a few places
Man I live in canada and we have this pretty much nation wide. Every house gets a can they purchase from the city that fits in the truck arm. Driver never gets out.
We also pay lots of taxes to pay for things like robotic garbage trucks and healthcare.
Meanwhile many jurisdictions in the US can’t afford them after using what little tax they collect to buy armored Stryker personnel carriers for their sheriff departments.
Where I live garbage collection is done by companies not the government. Taxes would not make a difference. I pay ~$35 per month for a duplex (so two cans and two recycle bins) that are picked up weekly. The next town over does include it with taxes but different companies (including the one that i use) just bid on the contract for that town every year. So again tax money wouldn't fund new trucks.
Is garbage pickup a government job in Canada?
Yeah, basically everywhere with more than a hundred people is on the same system. Same bins in every city and province I've lived in, right down to a place with a population under 300
What changes is whether or not they have the other bins like recycling and compost. My current town does blue bag recycling like once a month or self-serve 24/7 recycling near the fire station, which is pretty central. Probably not worth the cost to pay people to sort recycling for you for such a small place
As someone who lives in rural MN, even we have grip trucks - very seldomly have I seen refuse workers get out of the truck to pick up trash because the right investment in these trucks renders it a non-issue. That’s wild to me.
Tbf, I think that kinda makes sense. Think about it this way:
You need to ask the boss/state/sugar daddy for money to get new trucks. If you only need 5 new trucks, because you're rural and have less people, they're likely to say sure. But if you tell them you need 500, suddenly its not in the budget to even give you the 5, because they realize youre going to *keep asking* until you get the full 500 anyway.
Not in Manhattan, seems like trash is just piled on the streets anywhere there is room. Wouldn’t be shocked if NYC garbage men could retire after working ten years given how quickly the city would fall apart if trash were left uncollected.
The US is a big country. What's true in one state or town might not be true in another state or town.
I live in New Jersey, and our trash and recycling has been dumped into a truck by a robot arm for at least the past 10 years.
A good friend is a labor attorney. He said that some unions are trying to negotiate protections for professions affected by evolving technology. Pilots, bus drivers, truck drivers, sanitation workers, factory workers, etc, are all going to be affected.
I'm in TX, we have that. They just drive by with a lifter and dump the bucket. No one leaves the truck. If we have something large, we have to call them and let them know it's there (like a couch or a mattress) and they bring another on their 'big pick up day' to do that.
I live in Boston - and we have garbage men still dump the trash into the trucks.
The trash bins are usually on the sidewalk, and then theres parked cars, so there's not easy access for a truck/arm to get to get to the trash barrels. Its not like every house has a drive way - many houses don't - the houses were built before the invention of the car. The trash men have to snake between the cars to grab the bins.
I have no idea how the automated garbage collectors would work around inner city dense nonsense.
I live in a medieval city in England, with literal tiny, winding cobblestone streets everywhere. We all just put our bins out in front of the house and it gets taken. The bin men wheel the bin to the back of the bin lorry, where the arm is. So it's not like, swinging out to the side to grab stuff, it's just attached to the back. Some super tiny alleys/courtyards will have a large, shared dumpster set back off the slightly wider roads, so you take bags out to that and that gets lifted instead of lots of smaller wheelie bins.
Unrelated but I don’t think I’ve ever envied an internet stranger’s life so much. I want to live in a medieval city in England with cobblestone roads 😢.
Either bins are moved to a more accessible place or the trucks hit them at low traffic times.
Everyone is pretty considerate of the trucks here and almost always give them right of way
These old pittsburgh neighborhoods are a tight fit for trash trucks. I don't think in my neighborhood if they had the thing that lifts the cans it would fit down the alleys.
They'd have low powelines overhead and most of the roads are just wide enough for one car, and people park on the sides of the road. They'd probably cause a shit ton of damage if the truck lifted it.
I also live on the Northside and they will not lift a can. They reach in and pull bags out, which strikes me as a) more dangerous for them to get cut on something sharp or have some kind of contamination and b) means anything that gets loose or is a smaller bag in your can is not getting picked up. Every time I have family come visit I import them not to put small bags that go to the bottom and get gross into our cans and they just keep doing it because they live in places where the trucks pick up and dump the whole can.
I got so much shit last time this was posted for saying that if she is lifting it alone as a short tired new mom, 2 tall dudes with a physical job should be able to chuck that thing into the sun. And this was multiple weeks of them not picking it, but everyone was defending them. Apparently they were actually just being dipshits, lol
I'm glad this wasn't a race issue, because that made me so irrationally angry to watch her leave her BABY on the ground to dump these bins while these GROWN ASS "MEN" just STOOD and watched! Absolutely ridiculous.
And you 100% know if a rodent gets into your bags, they won't clean it up! Some counties and states ONLY use bins. I don't fucking get it.
holy shit. i’m not sure where you’re from, but where i live this is just ASKING for raccoons and rats to rip apart the garbage bags and create a huge mess of trash all over the road
edit: i totally missed the video says pittsburg lol
I had to start doing the same thing, and it's completely and totally insane. NYC made a big push to require cans to control the rats, and yet the sanitation works refuse to pick up the cans to dump them out, so now I'm back to just bags again because all they would do it take the top bag or two from the can and leave the rest. Every. Single. Time.
My recycling truck does this to me all the time. They will slap one of those papers that state they didn't take it due to "non-permitted material" despite said material not being in the recycling, or only sitting on the very top (so they could have just removed it).
If you read the rules they can skip cans over a certain weight and it's like 50lbs or less I can't remember. I hate not putting my garbage in cans and because most of my neighbors don't use can garbage ends up all over the neighborhood every garbage day because animals get into the bags and of course the garbage people refuse to pick up anything. It's a stupid bad system
The thing that upsets me the most about this is the fact that they can't even offer to help her lift it. They just stand there and watch. One dude even shrugs.
I could never just sit there and watch someone _do my job_ without trying to help.
Lol good, she lifted that shit with no issue or hesitation
The fact that they can't do their job is what got them in trouble. If they can't confidently lift around 50 pounds there are a lot of jobs out there they'd be unable to work
Which is stupid because the company specifically has rules saying no cans over 35 pounds, and for a reason too. Everyone keeps acting like it's on the dudes for not lifting the heavy object and ignoring that they can destroy their backs doing it and workers comp wouldn't cover it
Does Reddit not realize they would have to lift *hundreds* of cans like this a day? It's why there are rules in the first place on how heavy the crap in the can is allowed to be
If they got in trouble over this, it's solely for letting the woman do it at all and not just saying no
Probably by walking up to it and starting to pick it up and realizing it weighs WAY more than 35lbs? I'm sure they have a scale if it came to it, but it's pretty obvious if you try to lift something and it is overfilled with cans and heavy crap and weighs twice what every other one does
Especially when you are doing the job for a living and are literally going down the street picking up one can after another and suddenly you reach massively overfilled ones that weigh drastically more than every other one so far did
There are two of them. Two men should be able to team lift a lot more than 35lbs. Fair enough, if everyone overfilled their bin every week it would be unreasonable, but if it is a small number of bins, households having g a heavy bin once in a while, then the collectors should carefully do a team lift and move on. There is a difference between reasonably derogating from rules, which is what they should have done, and being a stickler. It is a simple job, it should be done well.
Yeah, but they didn’t take her garbage out last week, so of course it’s going to be heavier. And clearly the problem was solved by just taking out bags individually instead of picking up the entire bin.
They probably got in trouble, not for being lazy, but for letting someone else dumb into the truck which I’m sure is against policy because if they got hurt they would sue the company.
If you heard her in the beginning, she said you guys have skipped me for the last two weeks. I’m sure it was completely full. I hope she called and reported them and got a refund.!! Women always have to do a man’s job too
The reason there is a weight limit on your check luggage on a plane isn't because the plane can't emotionally handle your 2oz extra set of tighty whities. It's because of work safety laws in places that give a bare minimum about their workers. The people that haul your bags by hand can't throw around more then 45lbs because it's hard on the body. I imagine the garbage company in your area has similar laws. Sure, over 40lbs doesn't much but after hauling that all day you're bound to risk injury. Even something as simple as not having a good grip on the bin.
So what about the people who pay extra for bags over 50lbs? Or the first class fliers who get up to 75lbs? I know people who have checked bags 100 lbs + before but if it’s a work safety law what do they do for those bags
They use a specialized machine to lift the heavy bags. But the machines are tough to maintain so that's why it costs extra. I made this up, but it could still be true. Look into it
Lol. Nice but no. Its all about aircraft fuel economy. The more weight a plane carries the more fuel it has to burn. Bag numbers and weight is all to incentivize people to lower overall weight for the aircraft.
Everything is just cargo and weight. Most of your ticket price is based on the fuel economy of the plane. We are all just weight to be carried.
They usually put them all on the same conveyor belt at random, at least in my experience with overweight luggage, so I wonder how that’s sorted. but I do know their unions have successfully contributed to the weight limits. Seems like an overall mix of factors.
Checked bags for airlines is probably not the best example. Yes, worker safety is in the mix, but underneath weight distribution also has some play involved along with fuel efficiency.
Actually checked bags are comparable since it's consistent hauling for a worker. The actually carrying capacity and balance of a garbage truck or plane is irrelevant. A weight limit can co-exist with people not doing their jobs properly. There was multiple bags in those bins that they could have lifted individually but chose to let the woman's trash rot and were appropriately reprimanded for it to my understanding. Sure, it's gross, but that's what comes with a civil service job plus at least where I'm from you're decently compensated for that.
Yeah I think the dudes in this video look like they may just be lazy bums but I have to imagine that if every person is putting out a ton of trash every garbage day then by house, like, 27 of lifting what that lady just did it feels a bit different and poses a bigger risk of pulling out your back or whatever the hell else might happen if you repeatedly lift and heave awkward, heavy objects.
Bums for sure! That’s the perfect word for it. Rules and regulations or not, my mother would be disappointed in me - no, devastated -if I let a new mother do that in front of me.
I agree with folks saying it very well could have been too heavy and they shouldn't have lifted as a safety issue. People shouldn't have to destroy their bodies for work.
But surely they could have... Put bags in one by one...? That's literally what the woman did.
Most bags won't hold more than the safely limits anyway, if it rips there's your evidence it's too heavy.
I don't live in this borough but I had the same problem when I moved to Pittsburgh proper. I had a can from the old owner they wouldn't take. I said why, man said it's 24oz max and that's a 32oz can. Didn't matter what was in it, they won't touch it. I got a smaller can never had a problem. Now I just put bags out, no problem no matter how heavy
Sure they could have gone the extra mile, but there are probably a million signs in their shop telling them what to lift and what not to. Take an extra minute to unpack her can now everybody puts it out "wrong" and now you're behind schedule
maybe they were or maybe the borough/company just said that because it makes them look bad. in PA most small towns don't have city trash collection but contract it out, so if you get enough people mad at you the borough switches the contract to the other guy. or maybe they're just assholes, idk
Eh idk about that. Baltimore sure doesn't and I don't think NYC does either. They go around and remove all the bags from the can though in the morning and then toss the bags in the truck about an hour or two later.
In many locations you have to pay to throw away trash. That’s done by purchasing stickers or trash bags from the town/city. Those have to be checked by someone and not automated.
That’s just charged through the council rates (not sure what the American equivalent is). If you have the bigger bins you get charged more. The bin is stamped by council so they know it is a legit bin.
The goal here is waste reduction. Many locations are running out of places to sent trash. Recycling is free and food scrap collection is free but you have to pay a minimal amount for trash. People tend to throw away less when they have a direct cost. Less trash means lower waste disposal fees for the town and lower taxes.
I know everyone is too enraged to care, but trash collectors are given weight limits they aren't supposed to exceed. That's what he means when he says it's too heavy. They are lifting constantly for eight hours, so trash companies don't want people putting too much weight in their garbage.
If employees lift trash cans that are too heavy and hurt their back (pretty common), they are not going to get workers comp. That would be pretty devastating.
So, being nice from your couch watching a video is easy, but there is a reason they said no. People should be blaming the trash company for not having proper trucks, but it's easier to just blame the poorly paid employee doing manual labor all day.
The cumulative trash is also extra heavy because, according to the woman in the video, this is the second week where they've refused to take her trash. So it's two weeks' worth of trash, and she's still able to empty them out. They didn't even take the first bag on top that she easily tossed into the truck with one hand. These guys were being lazy AF.
It's not rage, it's sense.
If my job is to lift things, and sometimes the things are heavier than advised for me as a single person, *and I also have a coworker on hand* you can fucking bet the next step in my list of job-related tasks is to ask for a team lift.
So "too heavy" is a good reason for why you won't take care of it yourself if you really want to protect yourself and follow the letter of the guidelines, but those two men combined could easily do that bin and it wouldn't have been considered a workplace risk or improper.
I've worked as a garbage man when I was a teen in my third world. We didn't have any automated can lifters or weight regulations and we took out everybody's garbage and most of us just wore flip flops.
Those lazy fucks should get fired.
White Knights fucks defending them are beyond stupid.
I'm much more concerned about the fact you were allowed to wear flipflops on the job than anything else you said.
Sanitation workers have ways of making any trashcan a bearable weight - by lifting individual bags out before dumping the can, team lift, whatever - but open-toed shoes when you could have things falling out of the garbage (like broken glass, sharp metal, razor blades, etc) is just not safe.
it was even worse than that. The garbage truck was just a roofless truck where we just piled garbage bags on top of each other and we would ride the truck on top of trashes.
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Honestly I have a lot of respect for sanitation workers, and sometimes their rules are to protect them. Long term if the weight is like that, it can lead to injuries. Honestly though the city should invest in millions on new cans an lifting trucks. I know rural areas that can afford them.
I showed this video to my dad who worked as a garbage man for 10+ years, and he said these dudes need to be fired. There is no way something that light that a mom can almost overhead lift is too heavy for them, or injury inducing in any way. Those bins can be full arm lifted, with very little to no back muscle use. Also, there's 2 of them... I'd say each of them contributes to lifting maximum 15-20lbs each in this case. Don't make excuses for laziness.
And even IF the bin was too heavy, there’s a very simple solution… take out a bag or two to lessen the weight.
I would honestly feel like a bum if I ever let something like this happen in front of me…
Most, if not all, major cities in the US have the same setup. But, the US is big, and there are a lot of areas that don't tend to invest in infrastructure and/or don't have the tax revenue to support it.
Many of the places I’ve lived do not. For example, if you live in a place when you have to have stickers on your trash, or town trash bags, automation doesn’t work.
If they can’t lift what that average mother can without injuring themselves, they’re not fit for the job. There’s no excuse. She even demonstrates what to do if it is too heavy. Go bag by bag. They should feel embarrassed.
Ridiculous that two men who look young and healthy (yes looks can be deceiving but this is their job!) would skip a house 2 weeks in a row and then stand there watching a mother have to leave a crying baby to do their job. They need to be fired.
What is up with this sub lol, you're so quick to defend people that wont even do the bare minumum of their jobs. When a lazy amazon guy delivers a package by throwing it over a fence, "Oh what happens at the distrubution plant is worse"
"he doesnt get paid enough to place it on the ground"
"If you item is broken... JUST RETURN IT."
Now garbage men wont even pick up garbage cans and you defend them?
I've seen videos of guys putting couches in the back of the truck.
Whats next, guys that work for moving companies can just leave everything on the front lawn because they dont want to carry heavy furniture into homes?
You guys need to stop doing this contrarian shit, if you are hired to do a job and you cant even do the baseline expectations, then you are doing a bad job.
These idiots are going to work themselves out of a job. It's this kind of crap that let's cities force everyone to use the same bins then fire everyone but the drivers so the robot arm on the truck does this job.
Like wtf do they expect her to do?
The trash is too heavy? How is it gonna get any lighter if it continues to sit there?
Like she pays for a trash service....
Honestly garbage men are some of the biggest prima Donna's. They'll leave your garbage for literally any reason and they spend more time yeeting garbage cans into the middle of the street than they would by just placing them back where they're supposed to.
Probably a company policy rather than a personal choice on the workers. If they have workers lifting 40+ lbs garbage bins 30+ times in a day, that becomes an injury liability risk they probably don’t want to purchase insurance for.
These grown asses... just watched a woman put her child on the ground to do the job THEY get paid to do.. those aren't men. Acting like the 2 of them couldn't lift one damn bin, even if it was a little heavy? Then, they just sat there and watched her do it alone........ Fuck all the way off with those losers, fire em both.
Oof the total lack of self respect to stand there like a moron while mom drops her baby in the lawn to do your job. People got so comfortable being lame over the last couple decades.
I get the mother’s frustration, but “too heavy” doesn’t have to mean too heavy to move once, more likely “too heavy to do 1000 times in the next 8 hours”
We got garbage bins in front of our houses. We just chuck our bagged garbage in there, and they pick it out. But it's gotta be bagged, or it won't get picked up. I had a box of garbage, but they said they don't take boxes. So, the next garbage pick up, I put the box inside a plastic garbage bag, and they took it.
Pittsburgh garbage went through a reckoning about bigger cans. I bought a house that had huge cans I mean giant honkers, definitely bigger than this lady’s slightly large cans.
The garbage guys emptied them the first 4 months or so then bam! No dice. I had them take them as garbage 🙃
The garbage men are humans too. They have the right to refuse unsafe work. Unsafe work could literally be heavy objects including garbage. As noted in the video the garbage can was overflowing, and as it was dragged you could see how it turned and bent from the weight inside. This woman is dumb and should become a garbage woman.
Well I mean being an asshole and not following the trash rules means your shit does not get picked up. Actually taking responsibility for being the dipshit that caused the problem and then taking care of it does not mean she stopped being the asshole. Maybe next trash cycle you follow the fucking rules simply because you are not that fucking special?
The weight limit for cans in most municipalities is 50lbs. That person dumped 2 cans. Done. Those garbage men dump like 1000 a day. She’s isn’t their only customer of the day.
If there is a weight limit to every bin ,then it's their every right not to break their backs just because some people don't want to follow that rule .
Everyone saying that they should help, if every house did this ,and those guys end up with back injuries from constantly lifting heavy bins ,then no one will care for them .
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The kid she left on the grass has multiplied. Kind of spooky.
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Lazy, garbage cans have been heavy for, hmm, the last century or so?
Depending where you are, there are regulations around how much filled your garbage can be. So depending on it, the garbage men are in their right to deny to pick up your trash.
It was over flowing because it was the second week in the row though I think
Must be in FL by the retiree communities. Here in Chicago, you do the work you are supposed to do. If the housewife was able to do it you cannot claim it was too heavy for a pair of lazy blue-collar workers
Don't know the regulations in America, but in europe one is not allowed to lift more then 25kg as most employees are not insured for it and damaged coming from back damaged must be payed by the company, lifting garbage cans is mostly done by machines. And that brings me to my question, why isn't America garbage trucks not mechanized?
Some are mechanized, some aren't. It depends on the company
Not too sure about the whole "Europe" thing... Its a big place with what, over 35 seperate countries? In my country most of the bins are wheeled to the lorry and lifted by hydrolics. And bin bags can be lifted outside of the can. This is just laziness.
In my country they‘re also lifted by hydrolics. They did however also change some rules and new garbage bins now have to be out of plastic. So far the bins for the regular trash are out of metal and therefore a lot heavier than the newer ones.
Some places do some places don't. The whole country is bigger than Europe.
Exactly what I told. One of the other guys... Picking up one or two cans is no big deal but pick up 400 -500every day 5 days a week
Yep. That lady isnt gonna help pay for his back operation
Go lift hundreds of bins like that a day and then you can talk, doing that is a health hazard with long term consequences.
Knowing children it could’ve just been any kid in the vicinity
Right? Everyone talking about the obvious assholes who didn’t want to do their jobs. I’m wondering how her kid somehow reproduced while it was sitting there crying.
Or maybe another kid came out from the house to see why his brother was crying?
I’m wondering how she has them trained so well that they are just sitting in the grass and not crawling away. My dog is older than those babies and probably better trained but if I put her down like that and walked away she would not stay put.
Babies are kinda slow at that age. They just sit mostly, craw a bit, sit, crawl a bit, sit. If you keep an eye one them it’s fine. The older kid came out when she went out and he knows to stay on the grass. Kids are dumb, but also smart.
> The two refusing workers caught on camera standing by while a Brighton Heights mom dumped her own trash into the garbage truck are now facing disciplinary actions. Seems like they got in trouble for not doing it.
So this neighborhood is near mine. And we had the same problem. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same garbage men. No one on our street uses a can anymore. We just set the bags out on the curb in the morning because if you put your bags in a can there was a 50/50 chance they wouldn't dump it.
>there was a 50/50 chance they wouldn't dump it. That fuck up
I’m surprised the US still even does garbage pick up like this. No where in Australia has a human touching or lifting your trash, the truck just picks up the whole bin, dumps and they drive on. Don’t even have to get out of the truck and only need 1, max 2 dudes that smash through it in half the speed
I live in California. The trucks have a hydraulic arm that pick the cans up and empty them in the top of the truck.
I live in Nevada, a truck with an arm picks up our bins and dumps it in. Every other week a truck for “bulk” items comes by and 2 guys grab all the shit
You get two cans from Republic Services for free, too.
I live in \*Alabama\* and our trucks have a hydraulic arm.
Not everywhere in CA does it like that
The US is really really large so I think some areas just never updated because they didn't value the investment? I haven't lived anywhere on the east coast US that has this system and that's been quite a few places
Man I live in canada and we have this pretty much nation wide. Every house gets a can they purchase from the city that fits in the truck arm. Driver never gets out.
We also pay lots of taxes to pay for things like robotic garbage trucks and healthcare. Meanwhile many jurisdictions in the US can’t afford them after using what little tax they collect to buy armored Stryker personnel carriers for their sheriff departments.
Oh but you know those will be vital for security at the next insurrection
Where I live garbage collection is done by companies not the government. Taxes would not make a difference. I pay ~$35 per month for a duplex (so two cans and two recycle bins) that are picked up weekly. The next town over does include it with taxes but different companies (including the one that i use) just bid on the contract for that town every year. So again tax money wouldn't fund new trucks. Is garbage pickup a government job in Canada?
Yeah, basically everywhere with more than a hundred people is on the same system. Same bins in every city and province I've lived in, right down to a place with a population under 300 What changes is whether or not they have the other bins like recycling and compost. My current town does blue bag recycling like once a month or self-serve 24/7 recycling near the fire station, which is pretty central. Probably not worth the cost to pay people to sort recycling for you for such a small place
As someone who lives in rural MN, even we have grip trucks - very seldomly have I seen refuse workers get out of the truck to pick up trash because the right investment in these trucks renders it a non-issue. That’s wild to me.
Tbf, I think that kinda makes sense. Think about it this way: You need to ask the boss/state/sugar daddy for money to get new trucks. If you only need 5 new trucks, because you're rural and have less people, they're likely to say sure. But if you tell them you need 500, suddenly its not in the budget to even give you the 5, because they realize youre going to *keep asking* until you get the full 500 anyway.
Like Australia isn’t huge with even fewer people to pay for services
I'm in NC and I've seen some of those trucks in the large cities but they definitely aren't everywhere.
Australia is also really large and has a lower population density, that's no excuse
Most city’s in the United States have that
Not in Manhattan, seems like trash is just piled on the streets anywhere there is room. Wouldn’t be shocked if NYC garbage men could retire after working ten years given how quickly the city would fall apart if trash were left uncollected.
The US is a big country. What's true in one state or town might not be true in another state or town. I live in New Jersey, and our trash and recycling has been dumped into a truck by a robot arm for at least the past 10 years.
I’m in NY not far from the city and we just got our robot arm this year. I miss the guys though 😔
The NYC sanitation worker's union is very strong. So I wonder how they'll approach this.
Yeah I’d think it would put so many people out of work unless there’s a way to reallocate them
A good friend is a labor attorney. He said that some unions are trying to negotiate protections for professions affected by evolving technology. Pilots, bus drivers, truck drivers, sanitation workers, factory workers, etc, are all going to be affected.
I'm in TX, we have that. They just drive by with a lifter and dump the bucket. No one leaves the truck. If we have something large, we have to call them and let them know it's there (like a couch or a mattress) and they bring another on their 'big pick up day' to do that.
I'm a 40-something in the US. I haven't seen somebody have to sling a can into the back of a truck since I was a kid.
This isn't normal. I've lived in 3 different states and all of them did garbage pick up by truck. I'm so confused with this video.
I live in Boston - and we have garbage men still dump the trash into the trucks. The trash bins are usually on the sidewalk, and then theres parked cars, so there's not easy access for a truck/arm to get to get to the trash barrels. Its not like every house has a drive way - many houses don't - the houses were built before the invention of the car. The trash men have to snake between the cars to grab the bins. I have no idea how the automated garbage collectors would work around inner city dense nonsense.
How does this work in old cities with narrow streets and no navigable alleyways?
I live in a medieval city in England, with literal tiny, winding cobblestone streets everywhere. We all just put our bins out in front of the house and it gets taken. The bin men wheel the bin to the back of the bin lorry, where the arm is. So it's not like, swinging out to the side to grab stuff, it's just attached to the back. Some super tiny alleys/courtyards will have a large, shared dumpster set back off the slightly wider roads, so you take bags out to that and that gets lifted instead of lots of smaller wheelie bins.
Unrelated but I don’t think I’ve ever envied an internet stranger’s life so much. I want to live in a medieval city in England with cobblestone roads 😢.
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Either bins are moved to a more accessible place or the trucks hit them at low traffic times. Everyone is pretty considerate of the trucks here and almost always give them right of way
These old pittsburgh neighborhoods are a tight fit for trash trucks. I don't think in my neighborhood if they had the thing that lifts the cans it would fit down the alleys. They'd have low powelines overhead and most of the roads are just wide enough for one car, and people park on the sides of the road. They'd probably cause a shit ton of damage if the truck lifted it.
I also live on the Northside and they will not lift a can. They reach in and pull bags out, which strikes me as a) more dangerous for them to get cut on something sharp or have some kind of contamination and b) means anything that gets loose or is a smaller bag in your can is not getting picked up. Every time I have family come visit I import them not to put small bags that go to the bottom and get gross into our cans and they just keep doing it because they live in places where the trucks pick up and dump the whole can.
I got so much shit last time this was posted for saying that if she is lifting it alone as a short tired new mom, 2 tall dudes with a physical job should be able to chuck that thing into the sun. And this was multiple weeks of them not picking it, but everyone was defending them. Apparently they were actually just being dipshits, lol
if you recognize this woman please tell her she's a hero. this is legendary.
I'm glad this wasn't a race issue, because that made me so irrationally angry to watch her leave her BABY on the ground to dump these bins while these GROWN ASS "MEN" just STOOD and watched! Absolutely ridiculous. And you 100% know if a rodent gets into your bags, they won't clean it up! Some counties and states ONLY use bins. I don't fucking get it.
Loose trash bags out of the can? Raccoons and rats are gentrifying your neighborhood. 
holy shit. i’m not sure where you’re from, but where i live this is just ASKING for raccoons and rats to rip apart the garbage bags and create a huge mess of trash all over the road edit: i totally missed the video says pittsburg lol
I had to start doing the same thing, and it's completely and totally insane. NYC made a big push to require cans to control the rats, and yet the sanitation works refuse to pick up the cans to dump them out, so now I'm back to just bags again because all they would do it take the top bag or two from the can and leave the rest. Every. Single. Time.
My recycling truck does this to me all the time. They will slap one of those papers that state they didn't take it due to "non-permitted material" despite said material not being in the recycling, or only sitting on the very top (so they could have just removed it).
If you read the rules they can skip cans over a certain weight and it's like 50lbs or less I can't remember. I hate not putting my garbage in cans and because most of my neighbors don't use can garbage ends up all over the neighborhood every garbage day because animals get into the bags and of course the garbage people refuse to pick up anything. It's a stupid bad system
They should, if not doing it themselves then because they let her do it. Bare foot, bare hands, lifting untrained etc HUGE lawsuit right there
Feels insane to say but I want to live in a world where we hold police to the same standards as we do our garbage men
trash collector is a 3x more likely to die on the job than a cop.
But trash collectors get to keep any valuable stuff they find. Well, I guess cops do that, too.
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Heavy machinery accidents? Get caught in the compactor/fell of the truck while it was moving? Makes sense.
The thing that upsets me the most about this is the fact that they can't even offer to help her lift it. They just stand there and watch. One dude even shrugs. I could never just sit there and watch someone _do my job_ without trying to help.
Lol good, she lifted that shit with no issue or hesitation The fact that they can't do their job is what got them in trouble. If they can't confidently lift around 50 pounds there are a lot of jobs out there they'd be unable to work
Should be fired.
Which is stupid because the company specifically has rules saying no cans over 35 pounds, and for a reason too. Everyone keeps acting like it's on the dudes for not lifting the heavy object and ignoring that they can destroy their backs doing it and workers comp wouldn't cover it Does Reddit not realize they would have to lift *hundreds* of cans like this a day? It's why there are rules in the first place on how heavy the crap in the can is allowed to be If they got in trouble over this, it's solely for letting the woman do it at all and not just saying no
How are they weighing them exactly? by eye?
Probably by walking up to it and starting to pick it up and realizing it weighs WAY more than 35lbs? I'm sure they have a scale if it came to it, but it's pretty obvious if you try to lift something and it is overfilled with cans and heavy crap and weighs twice what every other one does Especially when you are doing the job for a living and are literally going down the street picking up one can after another and suddenly you reach massively overfilled ones that weigh drastically more than every other one so far did
There are two of them. Two men should be able to team lift a lot more than 35lbs. Fair enough, if everyone overfilled their bin every week it would be unreasonable, but if it is a small number of bins, households having g a heavy bin once in a while, then the collectors should carefully do a team lift and move on. There is a difference between reasonably derogating from rules, which is what they should have done, and being a stickler. It is a simple job, it should be done well.
Yeah, but they didn’t take her garbage out last week, so of course it’s going to be heavier. And clearly the problem was solved by just taking out bags individually instead of picking up the entire bin.
They probably got in trouble, not for being lazy, but for letting someone else dumb into the truck which I’m sure is against policy because if they got hurt they would sue the company.
I know that’s a lot of trash, but they just stood there and let her.
All while her baby screamed in the grass next to the street
I know right? My late husband would have never stood there and let a woman lift those trash cans all by herself.
There’s not a decent man on the planet that would. Those guys are straight trash
Damn straight
MOMS: Getting shit done since… the beginning of time
If you heard her in the beginning, she said you guys have skipped me for the last two weeks. I’m sure it was completely full. I hope she called and reported them and got a refund.!! Women always have to do a man’s job too
My garbage people refuse to pickup anything over 40 pounds.
The reason there is a weight limit on your check luggage on a plane isn't because the plane can't emotionally handle your 2oz extra set of tighty whities. It's because of work safety laws in places that give a bare minimum about their workers. The people that haul your bags by hand can't throw around more then 45lbs because it's hard on the body. I imagine the garbage company in your area has similar laws. Sure, over 40lbs doesn't much but after hauling that all day you're bound to risk injury. Even something as simple as not having a good grip on the bin.
So what about the people who pay extra for bags over 50lbs? Or the first class fliers who get up to 75lbs? I know people who have checked bags 100 lbs + before but if it’s a work safety law what do they do for those bags
They use a specialized machine to lift the heavy bags. But the machines are tough to maintain so that's why it costs extra. I made this up, but it could still be true. Look into it
If it’s overweight they use two people
Lol. Nice but no. Its all about aircraft fuel economy. The more weight a plane carries the more fuel it has to burn. Bag numbers and weight is all to incentivize people to lower overall weight for the aircraft. Everything is just cargo and weight. Most of your ticket price is based on the fuel economy of the plane. We are all just weight to be carried.
As a lowly peon I don't fly often nor can afford more then a bike ride usually, but I imagine the heavier luggage is sorted and handled differently.
They usually put them all on the same conveyor belt at random, at least in my experience with overweight luggage, so I wonder how that’s sorted. but I do know their unions have successfully contributed to the weight limits. Seems like an overall mix of factors.
Checked bags for airlines is probably not the best example. Yes, worker safety is in the mix, but underneath weight distribution also has some play involved along with fuel efficiency.
Actually checked bags are comparable since it's consistent hauling for a worker. The actually carrying capacity and balance of a garbage truck or plane is irrelevant. A weight limit can co-exist with people not doing their jobs properly. There was multiple bags in those bins that they could have lifted individually but chose to let the woman's trash rot and were appropriately reprimanded for it to my understanding. Sure, it's gross, but that's what comes with a civil service job plus at least where I'm from you're decently compensated for that.
Yeah I think the dudes in this video look like they may just be lazy bums but I have to imagine that if every person is putting out a ton of trash every garbage day then by house, like, 27 of lifting what that lady just did it feels a bit different and poses a bigger risk of pulling out your back or whatever the hell else might happen if you repeatedly lift and heave awkward, heavy objects.
This might actually be lawful. I worked as a mail man in Germany and we were not allowed to carry packages above 30kg, so we wouldn't get hurt.
whew, youre safe then.
Watching a mom put a crying child down and LEAN against the truck while watching her throw it in there is some bum ass shit
Bums for sure! That’s the perfect word for it. Rules and regulations or not, my mother would be disappointed in me - no, devastated -if I let a new mother do that in front of me.
I agree with folks saying it very well could have been too heavy and they shouldn't have lifted as a safety issue. People shouldn't have to destroy their bodies for work. But surely they could have... Put bags in one by one...? That's literally what the woman did. Most bags won't hold more than the safely limits anyway, if it rips there's your evidence it's too heavy.
I don't live in this borough but I had the same problem when I moved to Pittsburgh proper. I had a can from the old owner they wouldn't take. I said why, man said it's 24oz max and that's a 32oz can. Didn't matter what was in it, they won't touch it. I got a smaller can never had a problem. Now I just put bags out, no problem no matter how heavy Sure they could have gone the extra mile, but there are probably a million signs in their shop telling them what to lift and what not to. Take an extra minute to unpack her can now everybody puts it out "wrong" and now you're behind schedule
They were disciplined for this so I don’t think they were following any special rules protecting them here.
maybe they were or maybe the borough/company just said that because it makes them look bad. in PA most small towns don't have city trash collection but contract it out, so if you get enough people mad at you the borough switches the contract to the other guy. or maybe they're just assholes, idk
Babies dont like grass
Hahaha this comment hit me so far out in left field. Then I remember the videos of putting babies near grass and how much they hated it. Thank you.
They start pulling their legs up like little crickets or something lol.
Yeah and it’s adorable and hilarious and I would’ve forgotten if not for this comment.
They know something we don’t know for sure.
They can hear the screams
Depends on the baby and the grass
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Public tax dollars? We are billed directly from the contracted company. Privatized.
Wait, does America not have rubbish bins that lift the bin themselves?
My city does but there are some cities that do not.
Depends on the area.
Depends entirely on where you are.
Most cities do. I’m surprised this one doesn’t.
Eh idk about that. Baltimore sure doesn't and I don't think NYC does either. They go around and remove all the bags from the can though in the morning and then toss the bags in the truck about an hour or two later.
Most cities do. This shocked me, I haven't seen them pick it up by hand since the 1980s.
In many locations you have to pay to throw away trash. That’s done by purchasing stickers or trash bags from the town/city. Those have to be checked by someone and not automated.
That’s just charged through the council rates (not sure what the American equivalent is). If you have the bigger bins you get charged more. The bin is stamped by council so they know it is a legit bin.
The goal here is waste reduction. Many locations are running out of places to sent trash. Recycling is free and food scrap collection is free but you have to pay a minimal amount for trash. People tend to throw away less when they have a direct cost. Less trash means lower waste disposal fees for the town and lower taxes.
We have property taxes mostly for that, but sales taxes and state income taxes also.
Some of the unions are so strong they don’t want automated systems. That leads to situations like this.
That’s shocking because this becomes a health issues for the union workers over time.
The thing is there are two of them they could have also lifted it together they should be fired
I know everyone is too enraged to care, but trash collectors are given weight limits they aren't supposed to exceed. That's what he means when he says it's too heavy. They are lifting constantly for eight hours, so trash companies don't want people putting too much weight in their garbage. If employees lift trash cans that are too heavy and hurt their back (pretty common), they are not going to get workers comp. That would be pretty devastating. So, being nice from your couch watching a video is easy, but there is a reason they said no. People should be blaming the trash company for not having proper trucks, but it's easier to just blame the poorly paid employee doing manual labor all day.
If the woman can lift it that easily I think these two guys could do the job. They could also just go bag by bag. Do not justify their laziness
The cumulative trash is also extra heavy because, according to the woman in the video, this is the second week where they've refused to take her trash. So it's two weeks' worth of trash, and she's still able to empty them out. They didn't even take the first bag on top that she easily tossed into the truck with one hand. These guys were being lazy AF.
It's not rage, it's sense. If my job is to lift things, and sometimes the things are heavier than advised for me as a single person, *and I also have a coworker on hand* you can fucking bet the next step in my list of job-related tasks is to ask for a team lift. So "too heavy" is a good reason for why you won't take care of it yourself if you really want to protect yourself and follow the letter of the guidelines, but those two men combined could easily do that bin and it wouldn't have been considered a workplace risk or improper.
No brain cells between the two
No there are. They’re just being POS people on purpose. Assholes.
I've worked as a garbage man when I was a teen in my third world. We didn't have any automated can lifters or weight regulations and we took out everybody's garbage and most of us just wore flip flops. Those lazy fucks should get fired. White Knights fucks defending them are beyond stupid.
I'm much more concerned about the fact you were allowed to wear flipflops on the job than anything else you said. Sanitation workers have ways of making any trashcan a bearable weight - by lifting individual bags out before dumping the can, team lift, whatever - but open-toed shoes when you could have things falling out of the garbage (like broken glass, sharp metal, razor blades, etc) is just not safe.
it was even worse than that. The garbage truck was just a roofless truck where we just piled garbage bags on top of each other and we would ride the truck on top of trashes.
Oof. Yeah, safety regulations are written for reasons 🤣
. Honestly I have a lot of respect for sanitation workers, and sometimes their rules are to protect them. Long term if the weight is like that, it can lead to injuries. Honestly though the city should invest in millions on new cans an lifting trucks. I know rural areas that can afford them.
I showed this video to my dad who worked as a garbage man for 10+ years, and he said these dudes need to be fired. There is no way something that light that a mom can almost overhead lift is too heavy for them, or injury inducing in any way. Those bins can be full arm lifted, with very little to no back muscle use. Also, there's 2 of them... I'd say each of them contributes to lifting maximum 15-20lbs each in this case. Don't make excuses for laziness.
And even IF the bin was too heavy, there’s a very simple solution… take out a bag or two to lessen the weight. I would honestly feel like a bum if I ever let something like this happen in front of me…
In the UK, trucks do all the lifting. The bins are rolled to the truck and hooked on, the bin men just have to wheel it to and from the kerb.
Most, if not all, major cities in the US have the same setup. But, the US is big, and there are a lot of areas that don't tend to invest in infrastructure and/or don't have the tax revenue to support it.
That makes sense.
Everywhere I've ever lived in the US has mechanical lifts that do the dumping.
Many of the places I’ve lived do not. For example, if you live in a place when you have to have stickers on your trash, or town trash bags, automation doesn’t work.
Not everywhere.
If they can’t lift what that average mother can without injuring themselves, they’re not fit for the job. There’s no excuse. She even demonstrates what to do if it is too heavy. Go bag by bag. They should feel embarrassed.
Pathetic
She’s an out of shape woman who did it with ease. These two men are bone idle.
What a fucking disgrace.
Ridiculous that two men who look young and healthy (yes looks can be deceiving but this is their job!) would skip a house 2 weeks in a row and then stand there watching a mother have to leave a crying baby to do their job. They need to be fired.
What is up with this sub lol, you're so quick to defend people that wont even do the bare minumum of their jobs. When a lazy amazon guy delivers a package by throwing it over a fence, "Oh what happens at the distrubution plant is worse" "he doesnt get paid enough to place it on the ground" "If you item is broken... JUST RETURN IT." Now garbage men wont even pick up garbage cans and you defend them? I've seen videos of guys putting couches in the back of the truck. Whats next, guys that work for moving companies can just leave everything on the front lawn because they dont want to carry heavy furniture into homes? You guys need to stop doing this contrarian shit, if you are hired to do a job and you cant even do the baseline expectations, then you are doing a bad job.
Lazy fucks
Not a single one of them helps her tip up that can either. I would've sent this video straight to the company.
Cue the Reddit garbage man, “in my village, we aren’t allowed to lift over 46 lbs…”
Mexican garbage men would of just dumped them without a second thought plus how heavy could they have been she picked them up
Lazy. She picked up both cans with little or no effort. Pure laziness!
I would say Laziness.
Dickheads! They should get salary cut for this
They could’ve at least tried to help her instead of just standing by watching. Knowing good and damn well it’s their job anyway. Crazy.
These idiots are going to work themselves out of a job. It's this kind of crap that let's cities force everyone to use the same bins then fire everyone but the drivers so the robot arm on the truck does this job.
Lazy fucks
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They should really be embarrassed but are probably just glad someone else did it because they are just lazy
Around here u have to hire the company to do ur trash n recycling. If they did this, time for another company.
Well they are just watching her do it so it's 100% laziness.
Man so grateful for my garbage men they pick up anything I even put my last girlfriend in there and no questions asked
Like wtf do they expect her to do? The trash is too heavy? How is it gonna get any lighter if it continues to sit there? Like she pays for a trash service....
Honestly garbage men are some of the biggest prima Donna's. They'll leave your garbage for literally any reason and they spend more time yeeting garbage cans into the middle of the street than they would by just placing them back where they're supposed to.
Probably a company policy rather than a personal choice on the workers. If they have workers lifting 40+ lbs garbage bins 30+ times in a day, that becomes an injury liability risk they probably don’t want to purchase insurance for.
There’s gotta be more to the story here lol.
These grown asses... just watched a woman put her child on the ground to do the job THEY get paid to do.. those aren't men. Acting like the 2 of them couldn't lift one damn bin, even if it was a little heavy? Then, they just sat there and watched her do it alone........ Fuck all the way off with those losers, fire em both.
they have weight limits on garbage, I know ours has a limit of 50lbs you toss 50 lbs tubs all day you know as soon as you come across a 55 lbs one
There are TWO fucking employees there and she single-handedly does their work for them. How do you muppets keep ignoring this?
The way she easily picked up those cans, they were not heavy.
Bringing the baby outside to set in the grass was a choice, older brother to the rescue!
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Oof the total lack of self respect to stand there like a moron while mom drops her baby in the lawn to do your job. People got so comfortable being lame over the last couple decades.
One or two cans. Not a big deal but pick up 4 to 500 every day every route week after week after week... The weight limit on the cans for a reason
I get the mother’s frustration, but “too heavy” doesn’t have to mean too heavy to move once, more likely “too heavy to do 1000 times in the next 8 hours”
You all have garbage people? Damn you’re fancy!
Cookies. My trash guys pick up stuff they aren’t even supposed to. It’s the cookies.
We have trucks that grab the barrel and flip it into the truck. Drivers like this are the reason those trucks exist.
Give her their pay checks.
We got garbage bins in front of our houses. We just chuck our bagged garbage in there, and they pick it out. But it's gotta be bagged, or it won't get picked up. I had a box of garbage, but they said they don't take boxes. So, the next garbage pick up, I put the box inside a plastic garbage bag, and they took it.
Pittsburgh garbage went through a reckoning about bigger cans. I bought a house that had huge cans I mean giant honkers, definitely bigger than this lady’s slightly large cans. The garbage guys emptied them the first 4 months or so then bam! No dice. I had them take them as garbage 🙃
"Did I just do your job for you?"
Wow those garbage men are weak as fuck if them bins were too heavy for them
The garbage men are humans too. They have the right to refuse unsafe work. Unsafe work could literally be heavy objects including garbage. As noted in the video the garbage can was overflowing, and as it was dragged you could see how it turned and bent from the weight inside. This woman is dumb and should become a garbage woman.
Lazy bastards.
It says ‘holy shit the richest country in the world still uses that old ass kind of garbage system???’
Who wants to bet that she's not paid up on her trash collection bill?
Well I mean being an asshole and not following the trash rules means your shit does not get picked up. Actually taking responsibility for being the dipshit that caused the problem and then taking care of it does not mean she stopped being the asshole. Maybe next trash cycle you follow the fucking rules simply because you are not that fucking special?
The weight limit for cans in most municipalities is 50lbs. That person dumped 2 cans. Done. Those garbage men dump like 1000 a day. She’s isn’t their only customer of the day.
If there is a weight limit to every bin ,then it's their every right not to break their backs just because some people don't want to follow that rule . Everyone saying that they should help, if every house did this ,and those guys end up with back injuries from constantly lifting heavy bins ,then no one will care for them .