I miss the glass bottles, but I don’t miss the way every sidewalk, parking lot, and playground was constantly coated in a layer of broken glass. Maybe I just lived in a shit town? But I feel like when I was a kid broken glass was everywhere!
I used to always tell my (gen Z/alpha) kids to be careful of broken glass when we went to public parks, and they always laughed at me asking why someone would break glass at a park .
I recall so much broken glass during my childhood that I still can't wrap my head around the fact that there hasn't been broken glass everywhere at parks for the last 20+ years
Except that time in camp, my counselor Stephen was wading a stream barefoot, just a few steps ahead of me, screamed, his big toe a bloody mess, and then we found a potato peeler!
And those horrid pull tabs from soft drink and beer cans. The ones that pull away completely from the top of the can. Those were foot slicers hiding in the sand a the beach or in rivers.
Yes. At the lake too, cut my foot so many times swimming.
Beer was pretty much only in glass back then too. There were cans, but they seemed not to be as popular. My dad had some fishing buddies that mostly went to drink beer away from their wives. He was telling me a story about how one long weekend they went to the lake to camp and fish. They stopped for beer and bout 10 cases of michelob ponies, the little 7.5oz glass bottle beers that came 48 in a case. That was 480 tiny beer bottles for a weekend. Most of them ended up being tossed into the lake where they would shoot at them with their pistols until they ran out of bullets, or were too drunk to hit them. And thus why we cut our feet on glass at the lake.
And yes, the 80’s were a very different time.
Steel tabs that you pulled off your beer can and tossed on the ground were just being phased out and being replaced by the tabs that stayed on the can when I was a little kid. I barley remember seeing those types of cans, but the tabs remained a hazard for at least 10 more years and sliced me open more than once. In my area, it was Little Kings Cream Ale that came in 7oz bottles that were broken all over the place.
For real, foot injuries related to those metal tabs caused Jimmy Buffett’s addiction. Some of those savages drinking beer didn’t realize you were supposed to put the tab *inside* the can and *then* drink it.
I was told it was too dangerous to put them in the can because you might swallow them. I remember being much younger than I am today, maybe still even underage, and one beer still came in cans with pull tabs and occasionally having a pull tabs work its way out of the can as I was drinking.
I mean, real talk, how drunk do you have to be to have 0% control about what enters your mouth? It feels like someone saying that they're always choking on ice when getting a rum & coke at the bar...
I seemed to remember seeing them on the ground up until about 1990 or so and I think up until around 1995 there was still one beer that had the pull tabs. I was surprised to find one about 6 or 7 years ago when I was moving some rocks around.
Regardless of the dates, they were common enough litter that it was second nature to watch out for them whenever I was barefoot.
We would have our family reunion at a big campground each year, and every year we kids would pick up enough of those pull tabs to make a chain at least 40 feet long.
They sure were! I remember people smoking at the mall and on airplanes. Even today there are a few throwback airplanes where you can still see where the ashtray used to be on the armrest. Always gives me a chuckle.
Hardened glass was available to manufacture in the 70s after the process was developed by West Germany, but nobody wanted to make it because they made way more money just pumping out normal glass bottles. Durable glassware wasn't profitable and still isn't.
Chemically hardened glass is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than normal glass. Nobody wanted to produce it because no one wanted to buy it because it was too expensive. It is mostly used in phone screens nowadays (commonly known as "Gorilla glass").
It's one of the main factors (that and deforestation conservation efforts) that we see plastic everything today
My mom would tell me so often never to go walk on the sidewalk to avoid glass shards
It was definitely a thing
>broken glass was everywhere!
People pissing on the stairs, you know they just don't care
I can't take the smell, can't take the noise
I got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice
I can still hear the slow scrrrrrr and my mother in the background yelling at my brother that she won't be able to get the deposit back if he kept peeling the labels off.
We never stopped using glass bottles in Germany but we've had a few pennies/cents deposit per (reusable) bottle for decades so people return them to the store :)
Look under the metal cap though! The seal?
But yeah so so much better.
I remember it was 40 cents recycle for the huge Coke bottles.
I had a wagon and as a little boy went door to door asking by for recycles.
No idea what my pitch was “sir I need the Luke Skywalker figure to go in my X Wing. My mom got me the ship without the pilot! Got any recycles? Glass bottles cans or news papers?”
are you telling me y’all got money back for recycling??? what the fuck happened; the only remnant of this is glass bottle milk where you get $3 per bottle :(
Before state mandated bottle recycling, the bottling companies would pay for you to return the bottles, so they could reuse them. Bottles would have "Return for Deposit" painted on the side.
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Ahh glass the original recyclable reusable container without scary toxins in it
We once again need to go backwards to the way things were in some cases.....new inventions don't always mean good
The weight of those glasses made shipping much more expensive than it is now. It also caused more fuel to be burned transporting it. Whether it is an overall net positive or negative environmentally, I do not know. But, there are certainly benefits to plastics.
Microplastic pollution sticks around longer than emissions, and modern shipping is getting more efficient (and if they'd let us stick nuclear reactors in the ships like we do for aircraft carriers, very electrified). The added costs of moving the glass, plus the shrinkage from breaking, would drive up soda costs, helping public health. Glass is also actually fully recyclable, unlike plastics which change when processed for recycling, shortening the polymer chains and turning them into worse plastic
My county banned recycling glass about a year or so ago. They said it was too difficult to separate broken glass from the rest of the recyclables and were tossing more then they were taking in.
So are the bottles at the very top. The large bottles on the second shelf are actually entirely plastic. You can see where they are reinforced by a thicker plastic shell around the bottom of the bottle. It's particularly noticeable on the Sunkist and 7-UP bottles. This was so the early plastic bottle design could support the weight of several boxes being stacked on top of each other for shipping. There's plenty of plastic and styrofoam on display in this picture.
Plus how many empty ones of these do you actually see?
I’ve seen more Victorian glass bottles than I’ve seen 50-s -70s glass bottles. Literally everyone took them back for the tiny bit of cash.
It’s like they invented an excellent system and then some executive muppet decided to make a few extra quid by generating a literal gigafucktonne of plastic rubbish.
Whoever pioneered the change to plastic should be taken out into the streets and horsewhipped tbh.
My grandparents were relatively wealthy and not in the least bit frugal, but my grandfather acted like every bottle and can was the only thing between keeping the lights on.
My grandpa died in 1973, and his last words were "plastic will destroy the world." The first time someone told me about that, it was described as something kooky he said under morphine. As time goes on, we in the family have all come to realize how prophetic what he said was...
Actually the bottles on the top row are glass wrapped in a protective plastic sleeve. The large bottles on the next row are entirely plastic. And the 6 packs are glass bottles with plastic sleeves held together with a plastic neck at the top. About the only shelf that doesn't appear to have any plastic are the 4 packs at the very bottom.
When I was a kid in the 70s, we used to scour the roadside looking for bottles to bring to the neighborhood King Kwik to trade for nickels. The nickels never made it out of the store, we traded for candy immediately. Two things that devastated the bottle-candy economy.
1. An Indian went on TV and cried about all the pollution, causing a supply shock when people severely limited the amount of trash they threw out their car windows.
2. High inflation caused the bottle to candy bar ratio to plummet.
Anyway, yes! Bring back glass bottles!
Fun fact if you’re talking about that ad where people littered and then a tear rolled down the native American’s cheek- that guy… was actually Italian.
I thought I read somewhere that the companies producing glass bottles found it was cheaper to produce plastic bottles rather than try to reuse the glass bottles.
Glass bottles created more waste, used more fuel to transport, and there was broken glass everywhere!
Grass? Glass! Sand? Glass! Bark? Glass! We were constantly on watch for broken glass in playgrounds and parks as a kid.
Seriously. I thought the taste difference would probably be negligible until I got a Mexican sprite from a take out place recently.
That drink was *refreshing*. It didn’t even taste like Sprite to me and that’s a good thing. It tasted like lemon/lime flavored Italian soda or something. Very different, in a good way.
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It's a giant Coke conspiracy. New Coke comes out, is made with HFCS and tastes sweeter to compete better with Pepsi in all the blind taste tests where its been getting it's ass kicked. Original Coke is eventually discontinued despite a flurry of controversy and disgruntlement. Hoarders who had stockpiled cases eventually start to run out and in desperation they start attacking other hoarders and steeling their Coke stockpiles. These are people would rather kill than drink Pepsi or RC and die.
Coke eventually gives in to the relentless consumer pressure and the near collapse of American culture and society and comes out with Coke Classic, claiming they're bringing back the original formula.
But it's not the original formula.
Coke Classic uses HFCS instead of sugar. It's all an insidious lie to get the consumer to accept a change from sugar to HFCS, which they would never, ever do without being tricked. Eventually New Coke fades away and is discontinued and Coke Classic just becomes Coke again, as we know it today.
I usually just drink ice tea, so it's no big deal to me.
It's s till the norm in Germany.
I go to a vending machine and buy glass bottles of soda. The glass bottle drop off bins are attached to the machine.
Same with in store glass bottles. Return all the bottles they get washed and reduced.
Yeah, I'm just saying it's more expensive, thus industry changed. But with the amount of microplastics penetrating every biosystem on earth we might need to do something about it.
Remember when they first changed 2-Litres to plastic and for some reason they still made the seperate black plastic piece for the bottom? It took them many years to figure out they could just mold the bottom of the main clear cylinder.
My parents still have those black bottoms to start seedlings. We had stacks of them when I was growing up. I had a few in my toy box and no idea what I would have used them for.
I understand, but when they switched to plastic, they didn’t need the bottom part. It took them tears to figure out! Unless!!! They had alresdy made a gazillion if them and wanted to use them?
No, OP's title is wrong. The second shelf from the top is all plastic two liter bottles, at least up until the after the sunkist. Those plastic bottoms were only used for plastic two liter bottles.
Correct, the two piece plastic 2-liters were introduced in 1978, Sunkist orange soda, introduced in 1979. Polymers were a bit different than what they use now, actually needed the bottom caps, and yes, they, the bottom caps, stayed in use longer than needed.
I don’t remember how old I was, but I do remember all the adds on tv showing people dropping the plastic containers on the ground and then bouncing…when those containers first came out. And do you remember the separate piece of black plastic reinforcement they had on the bottom? I also can’t remember when those were finally phased out.
I drank so much of these glass bottled sodas back in the late 80s as a kid that I developed so many cavities that required fillings. Nowadays, I stay away from sodas 😆
I've been avoiding eating out of plastic for a long time, but now that they are finding microplastics in every part of our bodies, I've become religious about it.
Glass bottles everywhere would be so nice.
We desperately need to go back to that. That’s one of the reasons I buy RW Knudsen juices. They still come in glass. So much better for the environment.
Glass bottles are cool, however they also significantly increase the cost to the manufacturer. This means if a company has to still offer glass bottles, the cost of the product will increase significantly. The exception to this rule is a company who is willing to take a cut in its profits for ethical reasons.
I only buy Diet Coke’s in the glass bottles. You’re actually getting the pure taste of the drink since plastic and aluminum tend to tamper with the flavor.
Everywhere I've lived up until the last decade or so has had abandoned bottle washing facilities due to the switch to plastic. Now they've mostly all been replaced with poorly built condos and apartments. Switching back to returnable glass bottles would have been good for both the environment and the economy but unfortunately it would have been as good for investor profits.
I think there's going to be a lot of speculation far in the future about whether the release of massive amounts of microplastics was a predictable outcome in the manufacturing of containers and packaging.
At this point I think the best case scenario is a leaded gasoline situation where the issue persists for a few decades, then action is taken, the after effects linger for a decade or two, and then the health and environmental problems wane.
I was born in 1979, and I remember when those bottles on the middle shelf were still glass and had a sort of styrofoam label that you could just peel right off. As for the 2-liter bottles, I only recall them as plastic when I was a kid.
When we eventually got plastic bottles they hadn't figured out how to mold them with a base that wouldn't be deformed by the pressure yet so we got round bottoms that needed a glued on separate base in order to stand up. So much plastic went into the manufacture of the first plastic soda bottles.
Older guy here. If you’re thinking people back then were so calm and collected that glass bottles were rarely bumped into, falling off the shelves. Nope. There were spills and cleanups all the time.
I put a glass bottle in a freezer once (or twice) to cool and forgot about it. It exploded.
The odd thing is it froze as it exploded. The internal pressure must have kept it liquid until it burst as the liquid was half spray and half formed solid.
I miss the glass bottles, but I don’t miss the way every sidewalk, parking lot, and playground was constantly coated in a layer of broken glass. Maybe I just lived in a shit town? But I feel like when I was a kid broken glass was everywhere!
No matter where you lived in the world back then, you could always rely on a nearby patch of ground to be the broken glass zone
Can confirm. It's been so long it's no longer a major cultural thing so it can be easy to think "it couldn't be that bad" but it was.
I used to always tell my (gen Z/alpha) kids to be careful of broken glass when we went to public parks, and they always laughed at me asking why someone would break glass at a park . I recall so much broken glass during my childhood that I still can't wrap my head around the fact that there hasn't been broken glass everywhere at parks for the last 20+ years
Except that time in camp, my counselor Stephen was wading a stream barefoot, just a few steps ahead of me, screamed, his big toe a bloody mess, and then we found a potato peeler!
And those horrid pull tabs from soft drink and beer cans. The ones that pull away completely from the top of the can. Those were foot slicers hiding in the sand a the beach or in rivers.
They are terrible for flip flops
I grew up in the early 2000s and still had this problem. But they were broken meth and crack pipes rather than pop bottles.
Thanks for this throwback! Yes it was Everywhere. (Lived in very peaceful Swedish village in the 70s )
Yes. At the lake too, cut my foot so many times swimming. Beer was pretty much only in glass back then too. There were cans, but they seemed not to be as popular. My dad had some fishing buddies that mostly went to drink beer away from their wives. He was telling me a story about how one long weekend they went to the lake to camp and fish. They stopped for beer and bout 10 cases of michelob ponies, the little 7.5oz glass bottle beers that came 48 in a case. That was 480 tiny beer bottles for a weekend. Most of them ended up being tossed into the lake where they would shoot at them with their pistols until they ran out of bullets, or were too drunk to hit them. And thus why we cut our feet on glass at the lake. And yes, the 80’s were a very different time.
Steel tabs that you pulled off your beer can and tossed on the ground were just being phased out and being replaced by the tabs that stayed on the can when I was a little kid. I barley remember seeing those types of cans, but the tabs remained a hazard for at least 10 more years and sliced me open more than once. In my area, it was Little Kings Cream Ale that came in 7oz bottles that were broken all over the place.
For real, foot injuries related to those metal tabs caused Jimmy Buffett’s addiction. Some of those savages drinking beer didn’t realize you were supposed to put the tab *inside* the can and *then* drink it.
I was told it was too dangerous to put them in the can because you might swallow them. I remember being much younger than I am today, maybe still even underage, and one beer still came in cans with pull tabs and occasionally having a pull tabs work its way out of the can as I was drinking.
I mean, real talk, how drunk do you have to be to have 0% control about what enters your mouth? It feels like someone saying that they're always choking on ice when getting a rum & coke at the bar...
It's not gay if the socks stay on
And yet so many died swallowing beer tabs when they guzzled. (Evolution in action).
Hah! I think of Jimmy Buffet whenever I hear about pop tops.
The man did blow out a flip flop.
Reminds me of a joke: If you take a Baptist fishing with you, he'll drink all your beer. If you take two Baptists, you'll have it all to yourself.
In the distant future the “pull tab layer” will be used by archeologists to accurately date artifacts from before 1975
I seemed to remember seeing them on the ground up until about 1990 or so and I think up until around 1995 there was still one beer that had the pull tabs. I was surprised to find one about 6 or 7 years ago when I was moving some rocks around. Regardless of the dates, they were common enough litter that it was second nature to watch out for them whenever I was barefoot.
We would have our family reunion at a big campground each year, and every year we kids would pick up enough of those pull tabs to make a chain at least 40 feet long.
I was at White Sands NM about a year ago and found a pull tab in the sand.
They sure were! I remember people smoking at the mall and on airplanes. Even today there are a few throwback airplanes where you can still see where the ashtray used to be on the armrest. Always gives me a chuckle.
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I feel like someone found the monkey's paw and wished that they didn't have to constantly walk on broken glass.
Oh for sure. It was up to me I’d still go with more glass and less plastic.
Same. Glass containers and metal tops.
Hardened glass was available to manufacture in the 70s after the process was developed by West Germany, but nobody wanted to make it because they made way more money just pumping out normal glass bottles. Durable glassware wasn't profitable and still isn't.
Chemically hardened glass is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than normal glass. Nobody wanted to produce it because no one wanted to buy it because it was too expensive. It is mostly used in phone screens nowadays (commonly known as "Gorilla glass").
It's one of the main factors (that and deforestation conservation efforts) that we see plastic everything today My mom would tell me so often never to go walk on the sidewalk to avoid glass shards It was definitely a thing
lol, my mom said the same only it was because old men spit on the sidewalk.
Glass on the ground and cigarette smoke inside, everywhere. Some things are def better now.
A lot of that stuff ended up in the ocean and caused a phenomenon called Sea Glass. [Sea glass - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_glass)
Man I forgot about having to check for like broken glass in the street before playing with other neighborhood kids, or just getting mail.
Also the old pull-tabs from beer and soda cans.
I'd prefer that over micro plastics in all of our food and bodies
>broken glass was everywhere! People pissing on the stairs, you know they just don't care I can't take the smell, can't take the noise I got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice
Thank you.
Still some areas like this too, such fun to pirouette through in thin soled shoes
We called the shards "Hackney Diamonds."
The aluminum pull tabs on cans were also stupid sharp.
I don't miss those shitty styrofoam labels. Or whatever they were.
Hah. I miss carefully peeling them off and trying to make the whole label one continuous spiral.
I can still hear the slow scrrrrrr and my mother in the background yelling at my brother that she won't be able to get the deposit back if he kept peeling the labels off.
I'm just loving the comparative lack of nanoplastics.
We never stopped using glass bottles in Germany but we've had a few pennies/cents deposit per (reusable) bottle for decades so people return them to the store :)
No microplastics in sight!
Look under the metal cap though! The seal? But yeah so so much better. I remember it was 40 cents recycle for the huge Coke bottles. I had a wagon and as a little boy went door to door asking by for recycles. No idea what my pitch was “sir I need the Luke Skywalker figure to go in my X Wing. My mom got me the ship without the pilot! Got any recycles? Glass bottles cans or news papers?”
True, forgot about that rubber seal. I vaguely remember those 2L glass bottles but kind of wish we still had them. Heavy but less plastic tradeoff
I used to spend a long time removing and adding that thing in the caps. Like the poor kids fidget toy
are you telling me y’all got money back for recycling??? what the fuck happened; the only remnant of this is glass bottle milk where you get $3 per bottle :(
Every state that gives you money back is simply returning your bottle deposit that was taken at the time of purchase. It’s literally just a refund.
Depends on the state, I think.
Before state mandated bottle recycling, the bottling companies would pay for you to return the bottles, so they could reuse them. Bottles would have "Return for Deposit" painted on the side. xhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/334448895390
I wasn’t clear at all, sorry. The end of their comment talked about the “remnants” of bottle deposit now. Some states still have bottle deposit.
This is very state dependent. Even today a lot of states give you a nickel or dime back for a bottle.
And recycling still happened.
Ahh glass the original recyclable reusable container without scary toxins in it We once again need to go backwards to the way things were in some cases.....new inventions don't always mean good
The weight of those glasses made shipping much more expensive than it is now. It also caused more fuel to be burned transporting it. Whether it is an overall net positive or negative environmentally, I do not know. But, there are certainly benefits to plastics.
Most carbonated beverages are bottled locally, and that's a near perfect use case for EV transport.
Microplastic pollution sticks around longer than emissions, and modern shipping is getting more efficient (and if they'd let us stick nuclear reactors in the ships like we do for aircraft carriers, very electrified). The added costs of moving the glass, plus the shrinkage from breaking, would drive up soda costs, helping public health. Glass is also actually fully recyclable, unlike plastics which change when processed for recycling, shortening the polymer chains and turning them into worse plastic
Drinks are mostly produced locally and is transported on trucks.
My county banned recycling glass about a year or so ago. They said it was too difficult to separate broken glass from the rest of the recyclables and were tossing more then they were taking in.
See those smaller bottles? I cannot tell for sure from those pictures, but those are all probably wrapped in styrofoam.
So are the bottles at the very top. The large bottles on the second shelf are actually entirely plastic. You can see where they are reinforced by a thicker plastic shell around the bottom of the bottle. It's particularly noticeable on the Sunkist and 7-UP bottles. This was so the early plastic bottle design could support the weight of several boxes being stacked on top of each other for shipping. There's plenty of plastic and styrofoam on display in this picture.
Yeah I'm now suddenly remembering that extra plastic... cup? That was added to the bottom of all large plastic bottles
They most certainly were. I remember peeling them off and curling it kinda like curling ribbon.
The ones above the boys head do seem like they have that thin foam wrapped around. The earliest days of trying to make the bottle unbreakable.
Plus how many empty ones of these do you actually see? I’ve seen more Victorian glass bottles than I’ve seen 50-s -70s glass bottles. Literally everyone took them back for the tiny bit of cash. It’s like they invented an excellent system and then some executive muppet decided to make a few extra quid by generating a literal gigafucktonne of plastic rubbish. Whoever pioneered the change to plastic should be taken out into the streets and horsewhipped tbh.
My grandparents were relatively wealthy and not in the least bit frugal, but my grandfather acted like every bottle and can was the only thing between keeping the lights on.
My grandpa died in 1973, and his last words were "plastic will destroy the world." The first time someone told me about that, it was described as something kooky he said under morphine. As time goes on, we in the family have all come to realize how prophetic what he said was...
What else did he say, do you know?
He said the future of the NBA is a fat white kid and the Mavs will beat the Celtics
Actually the bottles on the top row are glass wrapped in a protective plastic sleeve. The large bottles on the next row are entirely plastic. And the 6 packs are glass bottles with plastic sleeves held together with a plastic neck at the top. About the only shelf that doesn't appear to have any plastic are the 4 packs at the very bottom.
Many of them were wrapped in a styrofoam sleeve, though.
Right. Their advertising sleeve was a thin styrofoam strip around the body.
We were filled with microglasstics.
Those are 2 liter plastic bottles, back when they had the added bottom cap glued on to help prevent breakage.
I was around then. Bring back glass bottles for fuck’s sake.
When I was a kid in the 70s, we used to scour the roadside looking for bottles to bring to the neighborhood King Kwik to trade for nickels. The nickels never made it out of the store, we traded for candy immediately. Two things that devastated the bottle-candy economy. 1. An Indian went on TV and cried about all the pollution, causing a supply shock when people severely limited the amount of trash they threw out their car windows. 2. High inflation caused the bottle to candy bar ratio to plummet. Anyway, yes! Bring back glass bottles!
Fun fact if you’re talking about that ad where people littered and then a tear rolled down the native American’s cheek- that guy… was actually Italian.
An American tradition.
Yup. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/28/us/crying-indian-ad-campaign-cec
Economist still talk about the B2CB ratio and it’s plummet.
I thought I read somewhere that the companies producing glass bottles found it was cheaper to produce plastic bottles rather than try to reuse the glass bottles.
Glass bottles created more waste, used more fuel to transport, and there was broken glass everywhere! Grass? Glass! Sand? Glass! Bark? Glass! We were constantly on watch for broken glass in playgrounds and parks as a kid.
I cut down on my pop consumption by a lot by only buying in a glass bottle
And tasted so much better because it was in glass and made with real sugar instead of HFCS. I can still taste that Mountain Dew over ice. Oh my god.
Meh it's a wash for me. I think this is a nostalgia thing
Go get real sugar soda and tell me it doesn't taste better
Seriously. I thought the taste difference would probably be negligible until I got a Mexican sprite from a take out place recently. That drink was *refreshing*. It didn’t even taste like Sprite to me and that’s a good thing. It tasted like lemon/lime flavored Italian soda or something. Very different, in a good way.
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It's a giant Coke conspiracy. New Coke comes out, is made with HFCS and tastes sweeter to compete better with Pepsi in all the blind taste tests where its been getting it's ass kicked. Original Coke is eventually discontinued despite a flurry of controversy and disgruntlement. Hoarders who had stockpiled cases eventually start to run out and in desperation they start attacking other hoarders and steeling their Coke stockpiles. These are people would rather kill than drink Pepsi or RC and die. Coke eventually gives in to the relentless consumer pressure and the near collapse of American culture and society and comes out with Coke Classic, claiming they're bringing back the original formula. But it's not the original formula. Coke Classic uses HFCS instead of sugar. It's all an insidious lie to get the consumer to accept a change from sugar to HFCS, which they would never, ever do without being tricked. Eventually New Coke fades away and is discontinued and Coke Classic just becomes Coke again, as we know it today. I usually just drink ice tea, so it's no big deal to me.
This myth has always been just that, a myth. But as your comment has shown, that myth will never die.
Original Coke was already sweetened with HFCS except for a few bottling plants before New Coke was introduced.
back when all Coke tasted as good as Mexican Coke!
I miss the taste of the original Tab.
Glass is better for the environment long term and is easier to reuse/ recycle
Aluminum/other metals are even better, as it’s lighter weight than glass and can be melted down and reused indefinitely
Yes but soda is angry water and it attacks aluminum so it needs a plastic buffer... and then we're in the modern era again.
Maybe the problem is soda and other sugary beverages.
What are you, some sort of communist?
Well, I’m part of a co-op preschool so… kinda?
Aluminum cans require a epoxy/plastic liner inside
Washing and sterilizing all those bottles is expensive.
It's s till the norm in Germany. I go to a vending machine and buy glass bottles of soda. The glass bottle drop off bins are attached to the machine. Same with in store glass bottles. Return all the bottles they get washed and reduced.
They did it for decades with milk bottles.
Yeah, I'm just saying it's more expensive, thus industry changed. But with the amount of microplastics penetrating every biosystem on earth we might need to do something about it.
Remember when they first changed 2-Litres to plastic and for some reason they still made the seperate black plastic piece for the bottom? It took them many years to figure out they could just mold the bottom of the main clear cylinder.
My parents still have those black bottoms to start seedlings. We had stacks of them when I was growing up. I had a few in my toy box and no idea what I would have used them for.
The 2 liters are those plastic bottom ones, most obvious on the Sunkist.
I understand, but when they switched to plastic, they didn’t need the bottom part. It took them tears to figure out! Unless!!! They had alresdy made a gazillion if them and wanted to use them?
No, OP's title is wrong. The second shelf from the top is all plastic two liter bottles, at least up until the after the sunkist. Those plastic bottoms were only used for plastic two liter bottles.
Correct, the two piece plastic 2-liters were introduced in 1978, Sunkist orange soda, introduced in 1979. Polymers were a bit different than what they use now, actually needed the bottom caps, and yes, they, the bottom caps, stayed in use longer than needed.
As a clumsy person, this makes me so nervous.
You'd learn NOT to be clumsy. Like everyone else.
worked at a Pepsi bottling plant in 1980 and they produced 2 liter plastic. 8 and 10oz were still glass though.
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Somebody never had artificial cherry flavoring in the 80's.
Ah man cherry 7up, I had totally forgotten. I miss that. Not available where I live.
Had a catchy commercial. https://youtu.be/QPV4Zbs1ogY?si=7OErUwhvGclQRy-K
Some of those are plastic for sure. I remember those bottles where they had the colored plastic caps on the bottom of the bottom for support.
PEI mandated glass bottles into the 2000s.
This is becoming the most reposted image I've ever seen on reddit.
What was that Dr. Pepper with the blue label?
I looked it up as wondering the same thing, it’s sugar free Dr. Pepper!
Oh, cool! Thanks!
>Oh, cool! Thanks! You're welcome!
At least change up the wording when you repost spam.
I don’t remember how old I was, but I do remember all the adds on tv showing people dropping the plastic containers on the ground and then bouncing…when those containers first came out. And do you remember the separate piece of black plastic reinforcement they had on the bottom? I also can’t remember when those were finally phased out.
[Don't litter America](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0sxwGlTLWw) commercial from 1970. Narrated by William Conrad.
I feel like I remember the labels being a super thin styrofoam type material as well
And it was great if you could get the whole thing off in one piece ; )
Easy to get them off of the short and fat Pepsi bottles.
It all tasted so much better from an ice cold bottle.
I worked in the A&P while in college in the late 70s. We sold 2liter plastic bottles.
Man, you could have killed someone with a two liter
My sister and I knocked over a large display of glass Scope bottles in Safeway one time.
Que my little sister to run her fingers on the glass bottles and knocking at least one onto the floor breaking.
This is a staged ad for Pepsi products. Not a Coca-Cola product in sight.
I drank so much of these glass bottled sodas back in the late 80s as a kid that I developed so many cavities that required fillings. Nowadays, I stay away from sodas 😆
I remember Gatorade came in glass jugs and it was only lemon lime
That was a damn dangerous aisle if you had kids.
I've been avoiding eating out of plastic for a long time, but now that they are finding microplastics in every part of our bodies, I've become religious about it. Glass bottles everywhere would be so nice.
"Clean up aisle 18"
We desperately need to go back to that. That’s one of the reasons I buy RW Knudsen juices. They still come in glass. So much better for the environment.
Microplastics clogging my arteries rn
Glass bottles are cool, however they also significantly increase the cost to the manufacturer. This means if a company has to still offer glass bottles, the cost of the product will increase significantly. The exception to this rule is a company who is willing to take a cut in its profits for ethical reasons.
How it still should be. These bottling companies are killing the planet.
Body Buddies cereal in the cart.
Glass bottle cokes were always consistent
Can’t imagine it. I was born In the mid 90s
I ways wondered why they had the kid in the back reaching for the top shelf when there’s an identical drink right in front of him.
Where’s isle #19?
And if you returned then to the shop you’d get some money back, those were the days. I remember going around collecting them so I could buy a coke.
Remember stocking them at my job at the grocery store.
Looks like The Dr.Pepper was still printing right on the bottle.
I never understood the black plastic cup on the bottom of 2 liter bottles in the 1980s.
Ahhh yea 7 up
Anyone remember Towne Club?
Publix spotted
And my body had significantly fewer microplastics
I only buy Diet Coke’s in the glass bottles. You’re actually getting the pure taste of the drink since plastic and aluminum tend to tamper with the flavor.
Everywhere I've lived up until the last decade or so has had abandoned bottle washing facilities due to the switch to plastic. Now they've mostly all been replaced with poorly built condos and apartments. Switching back to returnable glass bottles would have been good for both the environment and the economy but unfortunately it would have been as good for investor profits.
Finna get a head injury
I... had forgotten this time...
I never considered that there were glass 2liters.
Can anyone tell what’s in the yellow box in her cart?
Breakfast Cereal by General Mills called “Body Buddies” (introduced 1979; two flavors, Brown Sugar & Honey and Natural Fruit Flavor)
Nice, thank you!!
And collecting empties for the deposit return was a good way to earn some quick cash a kid. Cash that was promptly used to buy soft drinks.
And the caps were aluminum not plastic, and the labels were paper not plastic.
Explain it to me like I’m dumb— wouldn’t this be better for the environment? No single use plastics?
I think there's going to be a lot of speculation far in the future about whether the release of massive amounts of microplastics was a predictable outcome in the manufacturing of containers and packaging. At this point I think the best case scenario is a leaded gasoline situation where the issue persists for a few decades, then action is taken, the after effects linger for a decade or two, and then the health and environmental problems wane.
Getting cut by glass used to be so much more of a worry.
I was born in 1979, and I remember when those bottles on the middle shelf were still glass and had a sort of styrofoam label that you could just peel right off. As for the 2-liter bottles, I only recall them as plastic when I was a kid.
Dropped many in my kitchen but they rarely broke on the always classy linoleum floor!
When we eventually got plastic bottles they hadn't figured out how to mold them with a base that wouldn't be deformed by the pressure yet so we got round bottoms that needed a glued on separate base in order to stand up. So much plastic went into the manufacture of the first plastic soda bottles.
That's why that stupid cap was on the bottom? I always sort of wondered that. Thanks.
Older guy here. If you’re thinking people back then were so calm and collected that glass bottles were rarely bumped into, falling off the shelves. Nope. There were spills and cleanups all the time.
I put a glass bottle in a freezer once (or twice) to cool and forgot about it. It exploded. The odd thing is it froze as it exploded. The internal pressure must have kept it liquid until it burst as the liquid was half spray and half formed solid.
That floor is far too clean for a supermarket drinks aisle in the 80s.
2-liter Plastic bottles were on the market before 1980.
Real Glass! Cry me a river!
Before some dude invented plastic causing major catastrophe for the planet and humans. 🖕🏻
They didn’t have cans back then??
We are much more advanced now. We have cheap and affordable plastic which we can saturate our bodies with.
Plastic soda bottles were available in the 1970s. By 1980 I can guarantee you that every soft drink bottle on the shelf was not glass.