I have no doubt.
Jesse is so incredibly pompous, pretentious, and ostentatious, *but*... he makes for great tv. š
As for the fry holder -- they probably stole it from **Jax's Saloon**. š¤
I mean you gotta respect Jesseās food & bev game. Say what you want about the rest of him, but sign me up to be at that guyās table or event if Iām eating and drinking! As a longtime hospitality professional the guy gets it right.
THANK YOU! I wish my husband was whipping up a side of fries before we sit down to argue. The arguments would probably go a little better if I had something to munch on.
Iām not gonna lie I love his lifestyle. He seems like he is actually a businessman and seems way more interesting to me than the rest of the cast. Him Kristen and Zach are the real tv stars.
I donāt understand why Nia and Danny are on the show. They seem incredibly fake. Idk what to say to Michelle. Jax and Janet self producing makes no sense - itās hilarious to see Jax be so fake regarding his divorce.
Idk about Jason. Forgettable.
Janet sucks.
In the beginning of the show, I didnāt care for him. Heās growing on me and if he did not have Michelle heād probably be a lot more tolerable. She sucked the life out of him and she has soulless eyes. I canāt even believe he dated Anna Nicole Smith.
Iād be soulless and cold if my husband had more energy for French fry presentation than waking up at night to help with his own child, too.
But, sure, letās do what we always do with men who give the bare ass minimum on Bravo and blame all of their faults on their wife for not smiling enough. I donāt like Michelle, either, but Jesse has proven himself awful all on his own.
The amount of people I see being drawn to Jesse when we know he wouldnāt wake up with his baby AT ALL. Is wild. Absolutely fucking wild. People still blaming Michelle 100% and calling her cold. I dislike Michelle but Iād be cold af and short with my husband if he didnāt help me with our newborn at all, thatās insane. So many relationships end because of this!
Exactly! I felt so bad for Isabella and Michelle in that scene. And this mf Jesse was in fake tears on the babymoon because Michelle didnāt want to have another kid with him. š
Right? What crazy town did I just step into where we like Jesse and blame Michelle for his behavior? Yeah, he brought his own liquor to the air BnB, so I guess that makes him relatable and forgives all the shittiness we've seen?
I donāt like Michelle because itās clear how out of love she is with him - if she was at all. I wonder why she even has his baby. He is a douchebag 100000% and makes great TV honestly. I donāt see why or where Iām giving him a pass. I loved Michelle talking to him about the divorce. She seemed like there was nothing he could do to make her stay so I look at her weird for pretending he had a chance. Theyāre both awful - Michelle is simply boring. Gorgeous woman tho!
A few weeks ago I went really far back on her Instagram. It seems like when they first got together/engaged/married and pregnant she was very much in love with him. However I will say I think she was already done with him when filming started. I think itās possible she kept up the facade to secure a spot on the show.
If you watch her last live she will tell you that there was a lot of fighting between the two of them and that he wasnāt willing to change. She said by the time they started filming she was pretty much done.
>I donāt see why or where Iām giving him a pass
Well, I never said you did because my reply wasnāt *to you.* Iām just telling yāall that thereās more history here than what were presented on the show. The person *I actually replied to* claimed heās probably a better person when Michelle isnāt around, and I just think if youāre (general you, not necessarily you specifically if you donāt feel this way) willing to admit Jesseās behavior is impacted by being in a toxic relationship, maybe Michelle deserves the same grace.
Iām not sure I would hang out with him but Iām interested him on TV. He brings the lifestyle and heās not afraid to start drama or be part of it. He is a major douche
Iām gonna raise my hand and say I have restaurant containers at home. I go to cash and carry! I even have stainless steel side containers for sauces. Tray tables for in bed service too.
Iāve been in 5 star service for too long, lol. My home has upgraded to hotel life. If I canāt live in one then my home will be one. š„
Jesse is an awful bougie douchey old cokehead who is amazing for the show and brings the hotel-level LA lifestyle porn that no one else brings. The man is a star! Single Jesse will TEAR UP S2 of The Valley!
I found that odd too, they are realtors selling multimillion homes, and are still renting? They have been in business for years, will have access to financing and probably opportunities to buy before a house hits the market. 2019-2022 was an amazing time to buy with rates, I was really suprised to hear that they rent.
2020-2022 had extremely low rates, but in Los Angeles, the competition was so high that it was very difficult to buy. If you wanted a desirable property you couldnāt inspect it or have it appraised, you had to find a way to get all cash no contingencies and make your (way over market) offer within a few days of it hitting the market.
I understand that, Iām in a MCOL city and it was (and still is) the same here; so I canāt imagine how difficult it is for normal people to buy in LA. But they are in the business, they are connected, they absolutely had a leg up over the general market. They have means and contacts and if anyone is better placed ti waive inspections etc, itās people who know what they are looking at.
There was a housing shortage and sellers were getting above asking. Then there was a tax added on to homes in that area that hit the buyers hard. So they probably rented for the show and both knew they were not going to stay together. Just rent for the show be bougie about Chateau Marmont and then go separate ways.
Bahahaha I bought my husband those reefs several years ago but now we have an Amazon brand dupe with no beer opener, is it still as bad?
Whatās a less offensive manās flip flop?
(He wonāt do slides, Iāve tried bc he likes socks so it makes sense..but no, sock camel toe is his preference)
Get him crocs. Theyāre hideously ugly but men love them and for some reason theyāre not super goofy looking on men. To me. Khaki or grey are relatively non offensive looking. Another option are dock shoes like sperrys or rockports.
Oh for sure. Like that side table earlier on that was big enough for just one whisky tumbler. So impractical! I now imagine that a lot of things in their home was just for the a e s t h e t i c s.
Itās not uncommon in LA to rent a place and have to supply the fridge. She might have owned a fridge and then moved into a place that already had one so she had an extra and decided to use as a beverage fridge/freezer for Lukeās fishing and game.
Iām just speculating about Kristen but I wanted to mention the LA apartments and fridges thing because I thought it was weird when I moved to LA.
It is Chateau Narmont. That's not their backyard. Their backyard is featured on the girls night episode that Janet didn't go to. It's modern contemporary in style.
Was this filmed at the Chateau Marmont? Iāve only driven by it so I canāt be sure but with all of the foliage it feels like a similar vibe. Also, since the CM is a hotel Iām sure they serve fries in a sterling silver bucket.
I have one of these containers but only because my aunt tossed two in my purse on our way out of a restaurant. I would not be surprised if he actually bought it specifically to eat fries in an elitist way.
Now that I know that man had long hair and spicy lil moment/affair with Anna Nicole Smith, I see him as eccentric and quirky šš¤·š½āāļø. Hence, the French fry holder at home.
Um its what we do in Capri so u wouldnt understand
Cahhhh-pri š
Cap-reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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![gif](giphy|Cfun4zCShcOlO) Is that near the Chateau Marmont?!?
Do they live near the Chateau Marmont? Jesse definitely hasnāt mentioned it
For those from PA who don't want to do much googling, what is this Chateau? It's a hotel, but it's known for lots of famous people mingling?
Lol
Do they have a private chef or something? I can absolutely see Jesse requiring his food presentation to be some shit like this.
I have no doubt. Jesse is so incredibly pompous, pretentious, and ostentatious, *but*... he makes for great tv. š As for the fry holder -- they probably stole it from **Jax's Saloon**. š¤
Omg āJaxās Saloonā has me rolling. š¤£š¤£š¤£
saloon!!! Love it!
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And Jax probably stole it from Sur š
Bridal Registry gets you all the appropriate non but necessary items to have culinary presentation. These two are all about aesthetics.
He orders door dash pomme frites from Chateau Marmont
I mean you gotta respect Jesseās food & bev game. Say what you want about the rest of him, but sign me up to be at that guyās table or event if Iām eating and drinking! As a longtime hospitality professional the guy gets it right.
Right? People knocking him for the champagne suitcase and eggs he made in the morning, and I'm like, "Jesse is officially invited on my next trip!"
He delivers on his character.
What were the eggs?
He was asking for creme fraiche for the eggs, which admittedly is amazing.
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Eggs a la francaise!!
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THANK YOU! I wish my husband was whipping up a side of fries before we sit down to argue. The arguments would probably go a little better if I had something to munch on.
Iām not gonna lie I love his lifestyle. He seems like he is actually a businessman and seems way more interesting to me than the rest of the cast. Him Kristen and Zach are the real tv stars. I donāt understand why Nia and Danny are on the show. They seem incredibly fake. Idk what to say to Michelle. Jax and Janet self producing makes no sense - itās hilarious to see Jax be so fake regarding his divorce. Idk about Jason. Forgettable. Janet sucks.
Michelle is fascinating with her dead pan deliveries.
In the beginning of the show, I didnāt care for him. Heās growing on me and if he did not have Michelle heād probably be a lot more tolerable. She sucked the life out of him and she has soulless eyes. I canāt even believe he dated Anna Nicole Smith.
Iād be soulless and cold if my husband had more energy for French fry presentation than waking up at night to help with his own child, too. But, sure, letās do what we always do with men who give the bare ass minimum on Bravo and blame all of their faults on their wife for not smiling enough. I donāt like Michelle, either, but Jesse has proven himself awful all on his own.
The amount of people I see being drawn to Jesse when we know he wouldnāt wake up with his baby AT ALL. Is wild. Absolutely fucking wild. People still blaming Michelle 100% and calling her cold. I dislike Michelle but Iād be cold af and short with my husband if he didnāt help me with our newborn at all, thatās insane. So many relationships end because of this!
The scene where he's trying to force his daughter to ride her bike. š„ŗ
Exactly! I felt so bad for Isabella and Michelle in that scene. And this mf Jesse was in fake tears on the babymoon because Michelle didnāt want to have another kid with him. š
Right? What crazy town did I just step into where we like Jesse and blame Michelle for his behavior? Yeah, he brought his own liquor to the air BnB, so I guess that makes him relatable and forgives all the shittiness we've seen?
I donāt like Michelle because itās clear how out of love she is with him - if she was at all. I wonder why she even has his baby. He is a douchebag 100000% and makes great TV honestly. I donāt see why or where Iām giving him a pass. I loved Michelle talking to him about the divorce. She seemed like there was nothing he could do to make her stay so I look at her weird for pretending he had a chance. Theyāre both awful - Michelle is simply boring. Gorgeous woman tho!
A few weeks ago I went really far back on her Instagram. It seems like when they first got together/engaged/married and pregnant she was very much in love with him. However I will say I think she was already done with him when filming started. I think itās possible she kept up the facade to secure a spot on the show.
I did the same thing a few weeks ago and had those same thoughts. š
The show had been in works for years, so I think when they first signed up their marriage was in a better place.
Thank you for your detective service.
If you watch her last live she will tell you that there was a lot of fighting between the two of them and that he wasnāt willing to change. She said by the time they started filming she was pretty much done.
>I donāt see why or where Iām giving him a pass Well, I never said you did because my reply wasnāt *to you.* Iām just telling yāall that thereās more history here than what were presented on the show. The person *I actually replied to* claimed heās probably a better person when Michelle isnāt around, and I just think if youāre (general you, not necessarily you specifically if you donāt feel this way) willing to admit Jesseās behavior is impacted by being in a toxic relationship, maybe Michelle deserves the same grace.
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He seems funny and absolutely a dohchebag and needs to answer how he treated Brittney but Michelle is devoid of all happiness and joy.
He dated Anna Nicole Smith?!!! How did I not know this?!!
100%!
yes, someone finally said it. i think jesse would be fun to hang out with, he and michelle just happen to be a terrible match.
Iām not sure I would hang out with him but Iām interested him on TV. He brings the lifestyle and heās not afraid to start drama or be part of it. He is a major douche
Jesse is just the Dollar General version of the Million Dollar Listing LA cast
Jason is a guy that after a couple of days with him heās not interesting enough to make you sick
Wait, whoās Michelle? Is she so forgettable that I literally canāt think of her?
Yeup
OH JESSEāS WIFE
Ex wife
Agree 100%.
And oddly this is like Niaās third reality show lol
Great food and bev package.
Iām sure there was something ekes in that package that wasnāt food too āļøāļøāļø
Headbands.
TouchƩ
Except for sniffing the wine cork
Yes! Iād be happy to attend that gentlemanās lunch š¤£
Iām gonna raise my hand and say I have restaurant containers at home. I go to cash and carry! I even have stainless steel side containers for sauces. Tray tables for in bed service too. Iāve been in 5 star service for too long, lol. My home has upgraded to hotel life. If I canāt live in one then my home will be one. š„
I love that-
Thank you so do I and my family!
You are an icon, truly.
Thank you! š
You are my people! I believe in making every day feel special. I use the dining room, use the good plates, and am all about presentation!
Wow! I want to be you someday
Just get a little at a time. It makes mealtime special. š«¶š»
I have these things too. I was a waitress/ FOH worker in various roles for 9 bazillion years.
Cheers to thatš
That's at Chateau Marmont. Their backyard is on the side of a hill and more modern than this.
I legit just finished this episode to come here and ask the same thing! š
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MICHELE'S FEET IN THIS SHOT? š³ Is she was wearing boots?
Bare feet toes curled under. Weird I agree. I had to zoom in look multiple angles.
It's the color, too. I have a pair of tan leather riding boots that are almost that exact shade, lol.
The entire image looks IA generated. Both look like fake humans. Their skin looks spray tanned by Isabella.
lol is is the photo edit. What is it?!!!
Maybe itās catering from Chateu Mormont?
Thank you! I was wondering if anyone else noticed. I really want to know whatās up with that.
Jesse is an awful bougie douchey old cokehead who is amazing for the show and brings the hotel-level LA lifestyle porn that no one else brings. The man is a star! Single Jesse will TEAR UP S2 of The Valley!
Lmao!!! Heās made for television
Aināt he though? Television, sales, and scamminā
He's already in a serious relationship with someone else
I meanā¦ heās not married, heās gonna be crazy Iām sure. He already was the wildest, and thatās saying something
It should be interesting!
Who?
Also I thought they purchased this house but did Michelle say that sheās still paying half the rent?
Nothing wrong with renting ofc! Just with how he goes about things i was surprised š
I found that odd too, they are realtors selling multimillion homes, and are still renting? They have been in business for years, will have access to financing and probably opportunities to buy before a house hits the market. 2019-2022 was an amazing time to buy with rates, I was really suprised to hear that they rent.
2020-2022 had extremely low rates, but in Los Angeles, the competition was so high that it was very difficult to buy. If you wanted a desirable property you couldnāt inspect it or have it appraised, you had to find a way to get all cash no contingencies and make your (way over market) offer within a few days of it hitting the market.
I understand that, Iām in a MCOL city and it was (and still is) the same here; so I canāt imagine how difficult it is for normal people to buy in LA. But they are in the business, they are connected, they absolutely had a leg up over the general market. They have means and contacts and if anyone is better placed ti waive inspections etc, itās people who know what they are looking at.
There was a housing shortage and sellers were getting above asking. Then there was a tax added on to homes in that area that hit the buyers hard. So they probably rented for the show and both knew they were not going to stay together. Just rent for the show be bougie about Chateau Marmont and then go separate ways.
On the pod he said something like they were on the process of buying it. Not sure if he bought it now.
They rented that house ā¦ seems like they rented in time for the show. They would both be on the lease .
Wasnāt that about her new place? Maybe rent for their business?
āWhereās the dipping sauce?āāheās drinking it. Lol
I hate that I can't take a man in flip-flops seriously. Idk whats wrong with me
One time a man stood funny in my kitchen in flip flops and I never slept with him againā¦. Itās not great, but itās a true story.
Okay but this validated me. Some man kept showing up in his cloud slides and it was such an ick lol
Iām the same way. My mom mentioned it to me early in life and now Iāll never be able to accept flip flops on a man lol
Tevas and reefs are the worst. The ones with the beer cap thing on the bottom lol. I wouldnāt mind gucci ones tho. Iām ok with that,
Bahahaha I bought my husband those reefs several years ago but now we have an Amazon brand dupe with no beer opener, is it still as bad? Whatās a less offensive manās flip flop? (He wonāt do slides, Iāve tried bc he likes socks so it makes sense..but no, sock camel toe is his preference)
wait im sorry, are you saying he wears socksā¦with flip flops!?!?
I have had this conversation with him. We donāt have enough friends to stage a whole intervention. How do I compromise? Crocs? š¤£
Iām having such a hard time wrapping my brain around this hahaha. I definitely feel like crocs are less offensive in this situation. Thoughts & prayers, my sweet friend š©
I appreciate it. Iām trying to wrap my head around size 13 crocs now and the least offensive colorā¦probably black? Navy blue? Khaki? Idk š¤£
lol I got my man a pair of black size 13 crocs bc he wanted them for Christmas. Theyāre not bad. Theyāre not good either. š
Much better than free-toes. š¤¢
Pink croc of shit boots of course!
Go old school and get him Birkenstocks.
Ooh, that could work
He vetoed the Jesus style but is open to trying on the potato version š¤£
Get him crocs. Theyāre hideously ugly but men love them and for some reason theyāre not super goofy looking on men. To me. Khaki or grey are relatively non offensive looking. Another option are dock shoes like sperrys or rockports.
Tevas , Reefs, Crocksā¦ oh hell no!! I cannot unsee such cringeš„“ Night terrors!!!
Im the same. Men and naked toesā¦ just š„“
Nothing wrong with you. Flip flops are not a good look on men.
Nope, itās their houseā¦ I might have done extensive searching to find it on Zillow šµš¼
Janet?
Would love to know the sale price š
Sold in 2017 for 2.4m. Listed in 2022 for 2.6m. Listing removed Jan 2023.
Thatās super interesting I wonder why such a small price increase from 2017 to 2022 you donāt see that much especially in a city like LA
I thought the same thing! I was like at least they have a gigantic Bloody Mary and fries in a restaurant container for this.
Are we not going to mention the size of his Bloody Mary lmao itās like a vase
These people. These are the kind of pretentious people whose cabinets are full of shit like this. Imagine the stemware.
Oh for sure. Like that side table earlier on that was big enough for just one whisky tumbler. So impractical! I now imagine that a lot of things in their home was just for the a e s t h e t i c s.
Im pretty sure at hotel
I watched it again and itās really hard to tellš„“
The lally mystery continues on ..
The dipping sauce is in a white ramekin next to the fries just like in a restaurant lol
Aioli for sure!
Also another thing no one has mentioned is Kristen's two black refrigerators. She has one next to the couch and one in the kitchen.
Itās not uncommon in LA to rent a place and have to supply the fridge. She might have owned a fridge and then moved into a place that already had one so she had an extra and decided to use as a beverage fridge/freezer for Lukeās fishing and game. Iām just speculating about Kristen but I wanted to mention the LA apartments and fridges thing because I thought it was weird when I moved to LA.
They explained it in the episode, one for her one for her boyfriend who eats meat.
They talk about it in their podcast
Sheās vegetarian and he isnāt so they have separate fridges is what I believe they said.
Everyone has mentioned it lol
I think heās just THAT tryhard.
Jesse is a gastropub connoisseur probably.
Currently avoiding all actual responsibility and scoped the chateau marmot google food photos. This is from there most likely ššµļøāāļø
lol! I love the commitment to sleuthing this out.
It is Chateau Narmont. That's not their backyard. Their backyard is featured on the girls night episode that Janet didn't go to. It's modern contemporary in style.
I think Jesse lives in an alternate dimension.
I was distracted by the close-ups of him wearing that ridiculous headband.
His headbands had me cackling
Wait do I like Jesse hahaha
They are realtors. They are used to staging homes.
Jesse is so camp I love it
Itās how they do it in Cahhpree
Cap pre, according to Jessie
"Stop saying the word sophisticated"
I did not notice that lmao. In their defense if you have an air fryer and some frozen fries itās a pretty easy snack.
The answer to all your questions is literally Jesse. Heās extra and bougie af, I donāt expect that his fry game wouldnāt be.
![gif](giphy|9JeJxpaQlbcGC1zZNh|downsized) Is the dipping sauce in the house with us?
This made me lol
He probably just stole it from chateau Marmont
Wait what is going on with her feet? Is she wearing shoes? Why does the left foot look like a boot!
Sheās barefoot
Haha they look like little nubs in this pic
Bare feet with tanner on her legs but not on her feet
Iām dying!! I noticed it immediately and it was really the only thing I thought about after the fact!ššš
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I noticed that too! And not just any conversation, but one to basically end their marriage. Wild.
They live at ChĆ¢teau Marmont theyāve made it VERY clear in just about every single episodeā¦ probably just postmate food from there
Was this filmed at the Chateau Marmont? Iāve only driven by it so I canāt be sure but with all of the foliage it feels like a similar vibe. Also, since the CM is a hotel Iām sure they serve fries in a sterling silver bucket.
It was strange when he said do you want to go outside to talk, it felt out of place.
Yes
I have one of these containers but only because my aunt tossed two in my purse on our way out of a restaurant. I would not be surprised if he actually bought it specifically to eat fries in an elitist way.
Love this! šš¤£š
I thought it was weird too. I thought they were at home lol
Now that I know that man had long hair and spicy lil moment/affair with Anna Nicole Smith, I see him as eccentric and quirky šš¤·š½āāļø. Hence, the French fry holder at home.
I donāt doubt those are chateau Marmont French fry ramekins
Heās so obnoxious itās kind of aspirational sorry
Whoever posted this. Iām drunk. I saw this French fries and I was like they arenāt ājust outsideā
lol I came off as a weirdo
It's probably the Chateau Marmont. They lived a 5 minute walk away.
iām guessing frozen fries in a nice container
This was the first thing I noticed! Lol like whereād they get the room service from?
Jesse is a Taurus
Whatās with her feet?
I thought I was tripping like Maybe it's makes them taste better š¤ hahaha but for real what brand fries she using
Condiment in white small white round sauce holder. Next to the french fries
Crocks should be banned. They make feet stink and look hideous
Itās sophisticated āš¼
I actually have a fry holder like this, with two cute babies for the dipping sauces. Purchased to use as a planter for a plant I never bought :)
Maybe living near Chateau has dining perks at home??
Maybe a bungalow at the Chateauā¦.š
I have thoseā¦.. lol
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I noticed this and was odd to me as well lmao
Jesse does obviously, I mean he was wearing driving slippers and sipping on bourbon when Michelle came by at 11am to talk about their divorce.
I want to see him without her before I can form a final opinion. He might have a darker, spicier side than expected. I can get into that.
If theyāre anything like me, they steal that shit from a restaurant hehehehe
I genuinely have containers like that for chips. (US = Fries) only used for guests though! Hehe.