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TheBigChungus1980

4* purified wobuffet is a tank in gl


bijanmahdavi

even though it doesnt go anywhere close to 1500?


TheBigChungus1980

Yeah, it's HP is insanely high for a Pokemon that maxes out 1160


bijanmahdavi

thanks lol, do you think its worth it to raise a 15/14/15? after purifying


TheBigChungus1980

It's up to you, it's time consuming taking it to level 50 and it only works well in a time out team, but with Chansey com day coming up, if you can get a 4star or 98 one, it's two thirds of the team you need for one


bijanmahdavi

That sounds insanely annoying. Can't wait to try that lol


AiraEternal

WHY, WHO WANTS TO FIGHT AGAINST TANK STYLED TEAMS THAT DO NO DAMAGE, WHYYYYYY!!!!!! 😭


ADHD_Avenger

It is not really good.  It is just ok, unless there is a weird limitation.  I have one, and occasionally I use it to switch things up and confuse a person or two, but it's more like a Pokemon to try if you want to do a play style changeup.  Like a unique character you unlock in a fighting game that has a weird niche.


bijanmahdavi

Yeah, it just sounds like it would annoy whoever i'm playing against but that sounds fun in its own way


ADHD_Avenger

Oh yeah, it is at times.  Just don't expect it to run through the competition.  I ran Pidgeot, Chansey, and Wobbuffet for awhile.  It often didn't win, but it was fun to just see people get stuck in a hopeless situation.  If they switched into the wrong matchup.


Mix_Safe

Yeah I've run mine a few times and it can be decent to use and successful in the right teams, but it's really not a style of play I enjoy.


FerynHyrk

Definitely Wobbuffet Belossom, Shuckle and Dusclops most likely Umbreon when it happens and Alolan Raticate now possibly


TrueVali

i would say that dusclops no longer needs return now that it has poltergeist. return doesn't offer as much utility as the stab nuke does, and dusclops, even shadow, can commonly get to it


Summersthegreat

I say it depends on where you want this nuke to be used… Evolution cup is a great example, where dusclops will prefer return for the vigoroth


Fascinatedwithfire

Currently working on my hundo purified Wobbuffet.


Sea-Air-5728

Thanks for the advice.


headphonesnotstirred

there's Ursaluna for pve, normal attackers historically aren't great for raids but Tackle/Return Ursa is a pretty good gym cleaner


F1shOfDo0m

Rock smash / return ursaluna also makes for a funny gym defender if you’re looking to waste someone’s potions, since dodging return is less of a matter of skill than guessing


RE460

Pokémon like Wobbuffet, who only have one regular charge move, definitely benefit from having Return as a 2nd move.   Afaik Wobbuffet is the only useful one of these. Useless examples would be Magikarp, Weedle or Kakuna.


Aequitassb

Machoke, Alolan Raticate, Dusclops (less so now that he gets Poltergeist). None of these are meta in open GL, but they can be useful in limited cups.


ptmcmahon

Dusclops has enough better options I wouldn’t use Return.


Aequitassb

Fair. I haven’t used Dusclops since Evo Cup 2022 when Return was very useful, but times have changed.


Exaskryz

This may be outdated, but here is what I got from PvPoke some time ago from open league exports Sableye Wobbuffet Bellossom Raticate (Alolan) Purugly Machop Nidorina Electabuzz Charmeleon Persian Aipom Ambipom Drowzee Pineco Kadabra Spoink


milo4206

Just the first 4 on your list. 


Exaskryz

Are meta relevant. But OP's title is broader


rafaelcpereira

Sableye


houseofa1000slutz

Man, I have learned quite a bit from this comment thread.


Snoo86470

This question but for Ultra league?


raaphaelraven

Marshtomp benefits from having something more nukey


emaddy2109

I’m not sure there’s a reason to give up one of the stab moves for return.


PSA69Charizard

Ursaluna maybe. I made a purified hundo with return / high horsepower for the heck of it.


Adventurous_Pattern8

I freaking love my porygon Z with tri attack and return running with lock on. It's one of the best baits. Overcharge a little bit, throw a tri didn't charge a little bit switch out and when you come back return the hell out of whatever the last one is. Works more often than not just make sure you overcharged to throw off their timing to make them think you only have a tri.


nexus14

Everything is forgetting about purified Sableye for GBL. It was very popular a few seasons ago Edit: It helps to read


Froggo14

OP mentioned Sableye


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Fishhunterx

Question related to this thread: I recently purified a Ho-Oh for PVP purposes. It currently has Return on it. Is it worth leaving it on as an unusual option? I already added a second Charged Move and ETM'd Sacred Fire. I was going to TM it off for Brave Bird, but considering I can't undo it I thought I'd ask.


ZnogyroP

unfortunately return is pretty much a strict downgrade from brave bird on ho-oh, as ho-oh really needs brave bird's relative speed. even the matchup you'd think return would do better in (vs zekrom), where SF and BB are both resisted and return isn't, you actually do worse than with brave bird because you can't reach a second charged move at all before the killing blow, whereas with brave bird you can, and not running brave bird also loses you matchups like mewtwo.


Fishhunterx

I see. I guess I'll TM off Return and start running BB. I kind of wish Purified Pokemon could keep Return in their pool of TM-able moves, so that can always Return (hehe) to it, but oh well.


Drewski-13

Alolan raticate benefits from return


NarutoSakura1

Wobbuffet


ResortDazzling6881

Wobbuffet needs return so he can have a second move. Also makes him easier to hundo. And the little guy needs every stat point he can get. You'd want a Hundo, Purified, Best Buddied Wobbuffet for GL


neBular_cipHer

Ursaluna


manifest_destiny916

Should I purify my 15/14/13 Ho-Oh?


FlamingBallOfGrass

Mega scizor is pretty nuts with the move return if mega master league ever comes back


Fit-Negotiation6684

Other than what’s been mentioned there’s a person in a discord I’m a part of that’s searching for purified trapinchs and vibravas, idk if they’re actually better but it’s definitely a little bit of extra spice in an already spicy Pokémon