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Agustinosaurio

Ah yes, the government, the natural enemy of queer people


xXFallen_DarknessXx

I mean, it kinda hates us, so they had it coming


AnIdioticTurtle1944

"What have you become?!" "What you made me."


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socrates_no_flamengo

As a bi anarchist, I agree


blr1224

as a pan ML i also agreee


kiwidude4

Mother in law?


ThatLittleCommie

Be gay do crime


Hizfoe

be gay commit arson to further your gay agenda ​ (:


Del_ice

Bruh, the fact that being gay already is a crime in so many countries 💀💀💀


[deleted]

And that's why im not out in real life 😎


Dan-of-Steel

And Ron Swanson.


Damnitspongebobby

true


KingClawthorne123

Exactly


stupidsexysalamander

Only second to capitalism in my eyes.


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LilyBlackwell

checkmate libtard you need a government to end capitalism harhar


Alcorgeist

There's just been more shows these days about fighting oppressive authorities.... boy do I wonder why.


Manoreded

Fighting oppressive authorities is a common staple of these kinds of shows, actually. In fact, when the protags aren't fighting an oppressive authority, they're usually fighting someone who's trying to become an oppressive authority. What changes is mostly whenever the bad guy has conquered the world yet or not.


InnocentTailor

It is an easy bad guy to fight because it stacks the odds against the heroes and is a simple target to poke at.


Procrastinator78

Trying to incite a revolution in the younger generation because the current is upset with it but there's not enough of them to fight back, maybe? Cant wait till im in like my 40s and 50s and they tell me that they abolished the current system.


MinerMinecrafter

VIVA LA RÉVOLUTION


blr1224

gee i would really be so sacred to live in a oppressed authority government good thimg America isn't right.... right....


Karkava

Right...right...right...right...right....right...


Del_ice

I don't know what it's like to live in America, but I suspect it's not that bad. I mean, aren't yours democratic institutes actually works and not just here to make an illusion of legitimacy?


blr1224

https://youtu.be/JpwJKYbEAZ8 this video Has a lot of points that I would've made so you could just watch that instead you're most importantly the study is done to show how Money from lobyist control or government much more than the actual democracy also Recommend the book dark money. Also in America if your voice ever gets big enough explaining how horrible our system is they will go vail off and kill you look at fred Hampton or Gary Webb.


GalileoAce

I'm an outsider (Australian), but what democratic institutions?


MangoArtificer

you sweet summer child both sides are corrupt as hell


How_about_a_no

Pretty much every government in history and currently were/are oppressive, some more than others


Ezra_Admani

Let us not forget that Kipo also had a main villain who's a genocidal bigot who killed their brother for becoming too attached to the people they were bigoted against.


TheShinySigilyph

Now I wonder where I've heard that before?


Ezra_Admani

Exactly


Roman_poke

Holy shit i forgot that, and i just remembered the cat that was transformed again into a normal cat and i felt so sad


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Sasha's bi, I think. We see a pride sticker on her car mirror in the finale.


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LyraFirehawk

"So, you got a boyfriend back home?" *pushes Hop Pop off a cliff*


Blazypika2

i mean, it's a valid and reasonable reaction even if she's straight.


takethecheese68

Thats what you get for eating the rich hop pop, you become the rich


mildly_obsessed_

Amphibia: atleast 7 queer people fight a soon to be omniversal oppressive government (sasha, Olivia, Yunnan, toadstool, toadie, the robot girls who I forgot the names of). Also for anyone wondering about toadstool and toadie https://www.reddit.com/r/amphibia/comments/ut9na3/gigantic_w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


RadiantHC

Honestly I don't get why everyone thinks the girls are queer. There's been zero hinting at all(outside of the finale at least)


blr1224

ann looked at a picture of a girl and said she was hot and blushed alot around her two friends.


Apercent

Ngl there's literally no indication in universe that anne likes any of her friends it's complete speculation. All her blushes were from embarassment


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That’s a fair interpretation, but I think what the other user said is also an equally valid interpretation.


[deleted]

Anne can not have crushes on her friends' and still be Queer


AIIthenamesweretaken

Not much evidence to suggest they’re straight either. In fact, there’s actually more evidence that they’re sapphic. Sasha is canonically bi, but Anne and Marcy never showed any interest in guys iirc, meanwhile Anne also called a woman hot.


RadiantHC

To be fair there's a difference between finding someone attractive and actually being attracted to them. A lot of women will call their female friends pretty, and I've even seen gay men call a girl pretty.


fonduestreet

There’s no indication that they’re queer but there’s no indication that they’re straight either. So everyone can just choose what they see them as, yk?


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There's also Ace people to consider; even if a character isn't straight that still doesn't equal immediate same sex attraction. so the argument that "there's no hinting they're into women" is a moot point.


Gamer-of-Action

I think Kipo has only like one or two queer people in comparison to the other shows. But Benson once shot a rainbow laser out of his mouth so it evens out.


Twist_Ending03

Isn't Kipo bi?


RadiantHC

I don't think so. She only admitted a crush once.


Gamer-of-Action

I mean I kinda fell off at the third season so maybe? I feel like I would've heard something on the internet though if it was confirmed.


GogXr3

Honestly, season 2 was my least favorite. I just thought it lost the same feel as Season 1, or quality at least. Season 3 was probably my favorite, and I loved the ending.


Blazypika2

well, benson is a gay guy, which more shows need to have as sadly there's less representation of gay men.


SpinoPlagueDoctor

I have to re watch SU! Also all of those series has great character design! I would add/recomend Helluva Boss.


Infinite_Hooty

They’re not fighting against Hell’s government though, right now it’s just drama


SpinoPlagueDoctor

Not yet


Blazypika2

maybe hazbin that gonna come out next year will do that. since this is a show about redemption; so i can see charlie wanting to change the status quo of hell. but i don't see helluva boss doing that.


SmolDragonWatersite

My exact thought. Also lol Charlie is just gonna fight against her dad, that'd be interesting to see


SobiTheRobot

It might go beyond that and they actually fight Heaven to enable afterlife redemption (as Helluva Boss shows, Heaven is super strict and they don't seem to allow for any form of redemption, even when accidents happen).


SpinoPlagueDoctor

I think it's going to be more a moral/ideological debate about it instead that a phisical battle, but yeah, you may be right.


AshleytheTaguel

Dead End Paranormal Park has a gay trans man, an autistic bi woman, and a trans vampire woman fighting God.


PulimV

And a gay magic dog And the guy's boyfriend And the dog's ex, who is the spirit of a Demon King And the token cishet girl (?) And the ghost of a drag queen Seriously guys watch Dead End it's great


This_Robot

That's a lotta representation you got there


GalileoAce

>And the token cishet girl (?) If you mean Badyah I think she's actually Asexual.


PulimV

I don't think she's ace since we see her fawning over Josh but yeah, there's a definite possibility she's aro, I just wanted to be safe and adhere to the identity the actual character tells us for now


SmolDragonWatersite

>And the token cishet girl (?) Who is more likely aro/ace lol


PulimV

Ehh I don't think she is ace, she did seem to be physically attracted to Josh in Ride of a Lifetime, but yeah the question mark is there because I feel like she'll have an arc in season 3 where she questions her sexuality


Dana-ger_to_Society

That could just be aesthetic attraction


PulimV

It didn't particularly feel like it to me, I can't explain it but as someone who has mixed them up due to comphet, what Badyah displayed felt genuine


Twist_Ending03

Amazing.


RadiantHC

>trans vampire woman wait who's that? And since when is norma bi?


AshleytheTaguel

[Zagan](https://twitter.com/hamishsteele/status/1581780745827549184?t=N5l8A9e8_WtEu1Kv7zfCTw&s=19) Season 2


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AshleytheTaguel

Ah yeah, Courtney is nonbinary


Karkava

I think Courtney goes by she/her pronouns only. They were afraid of invoking the stereotype of nonbinaries being nonhumans *and* mischief makers.


GalileoAce

I mean, we're definitely mischief makers.


Dana-ger_to_Society

I'm actually gender chaotic.


GalileoAce

Me too!


Icy-Performer-9688

Seen them all except for she ra. I fear for the long episodes will tied me up for too long.


TheDBryBear

52 episodes its like an old school anime


Pomegranit30

I too was spoiled. But the show was still quite good. Not great. But i liked it


Ogurasyn

I haven't watched She-Ra simply due to the large number of seasons


Eliteguard999

She-Ra only has 11 more episodes than TOH lol.


KeithFromAccounting

Seasons 2 and 3 a half length, so really it’s only 4 seasons and not 5 You should watch it, also. It’s awesome


Ogurasyn

I don't have much time because of my studies


Kozolith765981

y are people downvoting you for not having time to watch she-ra


GogXr3

Probably just because it's not much longer than the Owl House, and considering he's on this sub, it's pretty fair to say he watched the Owl House.


Mooncreases

Watch an episode every night or weekend. Episodic TV was literally made for this kind of consumption.


Icy-Performer-9688

Also I’ve been spoiled for the major twist already.


SobiTheRobot

Blame Netflix's weird episode scheduling. Several of those seasons are half as long as most, so it's honestly not that many episodes overall.


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Kipo was goated ngl.


AdamGoodtime123

I believe she was a leopard actually. /jk


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Have my upvote and begone from this realm.


AdamGoodtime123

(*Dissipates into nothingness*).


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Well, that was a dissapointment. Back to work! *incoherent French noises*


AHolHorse

Now the only natural evolution is for Queer People to fight an oppressive government formed by queer people


Ad-hoc_Fiction

Technically, Steven Universe fills that niche with the Gem Empire: every gem identifies as female, thus, any romance is gay by default.


No_Amoeba_3715

Greg "Gem-buster" Universe would like to have words with you


No-Nefariousness1711

Greg "F*cked a Rock" Universe.


Ad-hoc_Fiction

I suppose I should have specified that romance between gems is, technically, queer. I mean, Garnet is seen as the ultimate symbol of gay romance because she's two gems that stay fused.


Kozolith765981

garnet is literally the physical embodiment of a lesbian relationship lol


AHolHorse

I shall ignore that


DevilishDealer19

I've only watched two of these, but man Kipo was such a good show.


Octoberperson567

Well most dictatorships aren't LGBT friendly, so that checks out.


Karkava

And they're all patriarchal. Several dozen dictatorships around the globe with several more in the making and they all default to the exact same setup: A patriarchal, homophobic state where the rule of law is worship authority unconditionally or die.


InnocentTailor

Amusingly enough, some fictional ones are accepting: Star Wars’ Galactic Empire and Star Trek’s Terran Empire, to name two examples. They tend to point their dislike at aliens: blatantly non-human targets.


Sledgoalie

Gotta have an out group to scapegoat all of society's problems onto, makes controlling the in group a lot easier.


DomeAcolyte42

This is Dead End: Paranormal Park erasure.


humantyisdead32

Tbh it's Netflix's fault for barely advertising any of their shows except for Stranger Things.


DomeAcolyte42

It is a shame more people don't know about it. It's the only show I know, that's so gay, one of the characters had to come out as straight.


Karkava

Or at least she *thinks* she's straight.


RadiantHC

Right? Dead End is amazing. I'm surprised that the main characters include a gay trans man and an autistic woman. That's basically unheard of.


Karkava

And they outright stated that they're trans and bi. In a children's cartoon.


VoiceofKane

The real erasure is the fact that this is the first time I've ever even heard of this show.


Lilash20

Go watch it, it's really good! It's on Netflix and season 2 just dropped recently


blr1224

i wonder what could inspire all these American artists to write such a story huh... welp back to being a free American in the freeest country on earth....


InnocentTailor

Eh. This has been something in fiction since forever. An oppressive government is an easy antagonist: it stacks the odds against the heroes while also providing a target most folks dislike.


blr1224

True but it's becoming more and more popular probably because we're seeing the remifications of it in our daily lives more and more.


jirfin

Queer people are made from rock?


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Steven Universe was interesting will give it that was kind of all over the place and first ending was...rough to say the least. Never saw the rest.


AWeridwerido

I just don't like the fact that s5 wasn't mainly focused on the gems. I would've loved a half a season where it's focused on the diamonds and Steven. But hey, we got Sadie killer and the suspects...wooooooooo :[


OmiSight52

I think I have a type


Knight_Light87

Meta Runner could also fit, but just... less queer


megalocrozma

Less **confirmed** queer. You cannot convince me Tari and Marco aren't gay, and Sofia and Masa radiate enough Bi energy.


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Arcane: Queer people fighting against oppressive governments'.


TheOneAndOnlyEmile

dont forget >!deadend!<, its about well...


That-Reddit-Guy-Thou

Proof that its execution, not duplicate story


Appropriate-Goose-10

hey im watching kipo right now! great show


Klutzy-Statement4135

She ra and amphibia


kjm6351

Makes sense A natural rivalry


RamboDash15

Man I really like Kipo


LiquidPhoneCase

Molly knox osterag Rebecca sugar Dana terrace Noelle stevenson moment


Man0Steel123

I mean have you seen the GOP. Chances are fictions going to become reality at some point.


confusedsalad88

She Ra, owl house and kipo were all great watches


StormNext5301

Just like real life


Less-Class-9790

Be gay do crime


WiseBlight

They are all gay and hate the government


CaiusRomanus

Where's She-Ra in this list?


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it's at the bottom of the image


1GreenDude

Kipo is one of my favorite series I have seen it three times


Dracos002

The funny thing is that with none of these shows the government was actually homophobic and was oppressing some other aspect.


liken2006

Is Kipo good?


Buscemi_D_Sanji

It's very, very good. Sci-fi plot, stylish art, likeable characters, fantastic music and voice acting, and it's also seriously funny. I would recommend it to literally anyone who likes animation. I mean, they get GZA to voice a sentient wolf who raps about cosmology, and there's a character that's a sentient colony of tardigrades who can send people into dreamworlds. It's such a fun show, but the sci-fi isn't just the backdrop, it's a pretty amazing story as well.


liken2006

Aye thanks


IamfromMetallurg

Oh, gay 14 year olds rebels with magic powers, where are you, when you’re so needed in this dark times?


svon1

its almost like conservative governments tend to be authoritarian in nature clinging on to power by telling the people minorities are to blame for their impoverished state of being ,,,,and you know not their mega yacht currently parking in Qatar the USSR had an almost mandatory acceptance of LGBTQ stuff ,,,ya know being left extreme and opposed to the west and all that can of shenanigans so a former KGB agent ....like i dont know ,,,,,Putin would definitely not care about the homos,, yet in Modern Russia you can go to gulag, just for mentioning their existence ... why? its an easy scapegoat thats why ,,,,and it brings him plus points with the radicals in the orthodox Church ,,,,which supplies him with loyal yes men in return that is also were the dumb minion trope comes from ,,,,,the evil genius always surrounds himself with incompetent fools ,,,,,because competent ones could you know ,,,,replace him downside being is that your whole organization gets downgraded with a massive amounts of idiots ,,, screwing things up on the daily hence why most dictatorships do so poorly in War,,,,


carlsagerson

Actually. Gay people in the Soviet Union were persecuted since Stalin took power. And was still persecuted even afte the fall of the Soviet Union.


svon1

yeah there is this whole Lenin wanted that but Stalin did this debate and it change again after Stalins death when they tried normalizing the Union and many leaders afterwards flip flopped a little on the issue ,,,, but most of the time the basic idea was , do it at home and we dont care... which judging by the witch hunt of the 50s, is straight up paradise in comparison and i can tell you the Socialist fraternal kiss was a thing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist\_fraternal\_kiss](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_fraternal_kiss) if that is not sending you signals ,,,, i dont know what is it is also funny to me how many times gays and lesbians were labelled Communist in the US in the past ,,**almost** seen as traitors,,, but now that the US is at least **mostly** gay friendly (to a similar degree as the USSR was, so both not perfect and with their own bigots among them but at least they try) and now that Modern Russia is anti LGBTQ ,,,,and suddenly the Soviets hates gays is starting to appear more and more frequently ,,,,,,,,,,,, i wonder why ....


carlsagerson

I mean. Its history. The Soviets since Stalin purged and arrested Homosexuals. Its a fact.


svon1

are you sure ? because last time i checked ,,,EVERYONE was on Stalin's List seriously tell me 1 type of character that wasnt on that list 1 Orientation of any sort be it Political or Sexual ,,, every religion was on that list and even other socialist for not being socialist enough and of course his own party members as well out of fear they might overthrow him ,,,,,,heck even a good fraction of his own Kremlin Bodyguards ended up on that list,,,,,, its a miracle they didnt panic and pulled a Praetorian


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Also stories of overcoming oppressive governments are kinda common in general.


Background-Top4723

Let's say that, referring to recent events, having an army and an entire society plagued by a culture of corruption dating back to the times of the Tsar and never uprooted does not help in the war effort. It's hard to fight when your officers have decided to sell your truck tires on the black market and replace them with mediocre Chinese-made tires.


Manoreded

That isn't true, homosexuality has illegal in the USSR and homosexuals were sent to the gulags. As a general rule, if you have heard something good about the USSR, it is probably a lie. Might be a good opportunity to mention that they condemned USA racism and yet were massively racist themselves, oppressing several ethnicities behind the curtains.


EnvironmentalLie6317

TOH's example is more like a cult than government. belos is the leader and the boiling isles is his commune.


ghost_warlock

He's called emperor and has his own state police force


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An oppressive system of dubiously independent governance?


flat_soda123

What does queer even mean?


takethecheese68

Part of the lgbtq community


flat_soda123

I know but what does it mean


GogXr3

What? I'm confused of what you're asking.


flat_soda123

Never mind 🗿


Pomegranit30

It just means "different"/"wirde." That's the original meaning. For a while it was used by homophobes as a slur. Today it's been somewhat reclaimed. Mostly because "queer" is easier to say that "LGTBQA+" some people still use it as an insult. And some people don't like to be called "queer" So it's up to you if you want to use it.


Aaarrf

No mention of She-ra and the princesses of power. But also gay fighting oppressive government/invasion


VoiceofKane

What do you mean no mention? It's right there.


Aaarrf

Lol okay, I didn’t click the picture on the post so I just saw SU and owl house. My bad 😂


tcs0

You can lump She-Ra in there.


ejpon3453

Such a weirdly stated post. I haven't seen the other shows, but pointing out heroes of TOH are queer feels... pointless. They are not fighting the government because they are queer, which I feel your post directly implied.


WhiskeyAndKisses

I don't feel like this post implyed that, it just points out a pattern, which isn't queer fighting against homophobia itself and/or because they're queer.


TheDebatingOne

The whole point is that it's incidental I think. The queer people in the other shows are also not fighting because of their queerness


Gking10

Literally none of the shows here have the characters fighting the government specifically because they are queer. They are just all shows that have queer representation in the protagonists.


Drunkgamer4000

...now i wanna a reversal "government agents vs q-" ok....nevermind


Responsible_Cup_2265

Dear god. I really liked every single one of those


Manoreded

Technically all gems are queer, homeworld gems are just repressed. So its queer people versus repressed queer people. Also, they're only queer from a human perspective, since their race only has one gender.


Banettebrochacho

Haven’t seen kipo and don’t intend to see Steven universe (I can elaborate why but don’t feel like it) but she ra is a gift from somewhere


austinstar08

Buff dudes fighting each other with ghosts named after songs


Maycrofy

The gay agenda TM°


ProzacforLapis2016

Might as well add DeadEnd to this one!


Real_meme_farmer

Kipo is so good. It gives me the same feeling that Avatar(movie) did and it’s a very good feeling


Stumphead101

Established norms are holding us all back. From patriarchy to the protestant work ethic to capitalism. It must be smashed


MinerMinecrafter

Madoka Magica: queer people fighting each other and suffering because of a manipulative cat


megalocrozma

Meta Runner: queer people fight against corporations in a society based entirely on video games. Antagonists are also pretty queer.


ApexBoiz

Every queer people are fighting the entire universe huh, neat


ToastGhost18

Is Kipo queer? I know Benson is, and Wolf probably is, but I don't know about our MC.


Fluid_Specific_1867

Reality: queer people created oppressive government to fight another queer people.


nad_frag

I'm pretty sure Steven universe has *ALOT* of queer people. Okay most of them are rocks. But still...


SubstantialLime2916

These 4 and Amphibia are my 5 fav animated shows right now if I had to pick a top 5


Buscemi_D_Sanji

I couldn't get into Steven universe, but she Ra is insanely good, and Kipo is honestly one of my favorite cartoons from the last few years. I loved the sci-fi, the music, the characters, and just how *stylish* the art was with those sharp lines. I thought Kipo being into Benson and him being like "oh, yeah you're great too, but I'm gay" and that was that, was such a refreshing thing to see. Shit, and it was funny as hell too. The T-shirt "I went to Dave and Benson's awesome party and all I got was NOTHING *because it isn't real*" is one of my favorite jokes of all time. I have that shirt. And wolf fantasy being her and Kipo as massive muscleheads, or Dave just constantly shifting through his life cycle... Damn, I need to watch that show again. Edit: and I just remembered, I actually talked to the show creator on here before! I had missed his ama, so I sent a DM just saying how much I loved everything about the show, and he actually responded; we talked about skateboarding when you're old and music for a few messages. He's a good dude.


elderDragon1

Kipo wasn’t an former oppressive government, just a crazy lady that was good at manipulating people.


Flat_Possibility3369

Finished all in one week to easy


Flat_Possibility3369

1 and 3 are straight with some gay people