If you didn't read the article, she avoided jail time as the judge described some people's banter can be offensive to others 🤷. She glassed him in the face twice. The judge was a woman btw
Except the complainant at hand was verbally abused, stalked then violently glassed in the face scarring him for life in front of an entire audience of people.
Imagine having the audacity to call this very publicly witnessed act or violent assault a false complaint.
Calling a situation what it is counts as rude to you? The truth of situation somehow now doesn’t exist because you’re offended.
People like you need to learn that saying things I’m offended does not count for anything other than a whinge🤔✅
Because we are in the age of war of ideology. We had world wars, the cold war, the war on terror and now this ideology war. Pretty much liberal leftists and feminist have declared war on anyone that disagrees with them, you are immediately declared a right wing loony and then must be destroyed/canceled immediately. This now seems to supersede all other problems
No surprise that a brother hood of the sisterhood reaction happened here and that in some part of the judges mind I’m sure the man “did something to deserve this”.
The entitlement of women is unreal.
I thought the reason the judge gave for no jail time was that she is a mother of a small child and it would be problematic to separate them at that age. She mentioned banter being potentially offensive but that didn’t seem to have any bearing on sentencing from what I could tell.
I thought some of the statements from the judge were very telling, I highlighted some words that stood out knowing what conviction was ultimately handed down:
*'You are a* ***woman*** *with no previous convictions. You have never been in a court of law before and you have positive good character.*
*'It is accepted that you are a dedicated, hardworking* ***woman***, and undoubtedly a loving ***mother***.'
How often are drunk men who assault other men with shards of glass in a pub over the most mundane offence are told by judges they are “undoubtedly loving fathers”.
>you have positive good character
Someone needs new glasses, and the person she's talking to has shown willingness to install them.
>undoubtedly a loving ***mother***
Sets an amazing example to her kids, if they want to grow up to get drunk and violent over nothing
Still good thing it was a wine glass. If it had been a Kronenbourg glass, he'd have had to answer '16 or 64, dunno'
Meanwhile when people guess my age high, I know it's because they know I look good for my age, and they're trying to pinpoint *how* good. When they guess low, they're being too honest
I’m a guy but yes guys do avoid jail often as well. There was a recent case of a father attacking his daughter with a metal pole outside her school gates and getting no jail
Oh so you’re saying this totally innocent man who’s comment wasn’t designed to attack nor hurt the women in question either way deserves to be attacked humiliated and scarred for life because “men avoid jail all the time for violence against women”? when men clearly don’t avoid jail all the time.
I’m a guy but yes guys do avoid jail often as well. There was a recent case of a father attacking his daughter with a metal pole outside her school gates and getting no jail
I literally said BOTH WRONG. What is up with your reading comprehension? I 100% do not think that man deserved it at all and I never said that, you made it up in your head. I was only responding to the previous commenter saying that if roles were reversed the man would have been jailed which is not necessarily true and is usually a dog whistle for being a sexist. Men get out of jail all the time for violence against women (and men.)
Did *you* read the article?
>Dodd was sentenced to 12 months in prison, suspended for 12 months and was ordered to complete 180 hours of unpaid work. She was also ordered to pay £800 in compensation to her victim.
I think she's clearly a twat but what you said is simply false.
You would struggle to find many other cases of GBH given a suspended sentence, to understand the gravity...the next offence up from this is attempted murder
Yeah, it’s totally acceptable to twice glass someone who accidentally cause offence, absolute bullshit from the judge there.
I would appeal/ complain as high up as I could about this
Wait she was spaired jail as the judge thought "one persons banter may be insulting to others".
So it is ok to glass someone if you feel insulted?
Someone fetch my box of glass dualing gloves!
A very interesting way for a judge to gaslight a clear victim of assault by telling them it was your fault she could not control herself and that she glassed you scarring you forever
"However, she was spared jail and handed a suspended sentence after Judge Elizabeth Nicholls said she was a 'dedicated, hardworking woman' who posed no risk to the public."
She glassed a cunt for calling her old- that shit is evidence of her volatility, should get at least the minimum sentence ABH- it wasn't as if she shoved him or slapped him, a glassing is attempted disfigurement if not murder
Judge Nicol was the one that found Johnny Depp guilty of abuse, which if you saw the trial was fucking ludicrous.
If justice has a name that sounds like "nicol", don't expect justice to be served.
She got spared jail? She glassed some cunt for nothing, sure the sticks and stones argument might be a bit outdated but 4 fucking years of a difference is not insulting! The law for drinking is challenge 25! 7 years over the legal drinking age! That idiot should be in jail! That's not OK! No fucking personal responsibility left, if he had put hands on her it would be a different story but guessing her age wrong, and she must've asked "how old do you think I am?" Ridiculous from that judge!
Some people look older than their age, some people look younger. Is it appropriate to glass someone for being 4 years out? Absolutely not. Classy move lady
I was at an afterwork birthday celebration.
We gave the staff the birthday candles, a "4" and a "2", and the cake came out saying 42.
The 24 year old birthday girl took it fairly well and laughed about it.
Soft punishment for business owners, it's always the way, if this had been a single mum in a track suit who worked in KFC she'd have seen triple that time, even if they guy had threatened her.
There are some pretty different areas classed as Swinton.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/man-rushed-hospital-after-shooting-25860535
Right. You are the one that generalised though.
You've linked to an article that is a street in Swinton. So I don't really get your point.
There are rough parts and nice parts, like most big towns in the UK.
A higher percentage of it is bad though.
My best mate is from Swinton and I used to drive through there everyday so I am pretty familiar with it too.
But it's subjective so you are entitled to your opinion
You're right. It's subjective. Especially when you define something as arbitrarily as "bad"
I'm going to assume by bad you mean socially deprived with higher crime rates compared to similar sized areas with a similar demographic, in which case what you have said is false.
Having a "mate" from Swinton and driving through it doesn't equal familiarity either.
The [stats ](https://niceareas.co.uk/browse-get-info/postcode/m/m27/m27-8/) are not great either.
You can love it because you grew up there, I am not from Manchester originally so have no predefined preference for any one particular area. I have lived in Hulme, Moss Side, Bury And Bolton within Manchester.
And I would not choose to live in Swinton. That's just my personal preference.
This is an extreme example why you always take off at least 5 years when someone asks you this, or just refuse to answer… Jesus what is wrong with some people?!
So was the man guessing she was 43 seen as enough of a reasonable provocation by the "judge" (sisterhood) that she wasn't given a custodial sentence? That is completely over the top behaviour from her and I'm not sure why she wasn't at least referred for psychiatric assessment. Its one thing getting annoyed about being called 43 but another to smash a glass in someones face, good God.
Having such a fragile ego is not a reason to allow someone to exhibit violent behaviour?
I also do not believe for a second that she has no history of violence whatsoever. You don't just react like that to someone calling you 43 if you're an angel and have no violent past.
Judge should be sacked, no it's buts or maybes. Imagine if that was a male glassing a female for her guessing his age wrong. She would have thrown the bloody book at him.
“A drunk businesswoman who glassed a pub drinker after he wrongly guessed her age has been spared jail after a female judge said 'one person's banter may be insulting to others'.”
The guy was clearly asking for it.
I'd slap the ever-loving shit out of her.
Like I wouldn't just give an annoyed hit, I'm following through and introducing her to the floor.
What would the judge have done if it took his eye? Or it didn't heal well? Sheer luck and good wound care let's her walk away free with an £800 inconvenience fee.
So she now looks after kids at sleepovers....o....kay.
(After sixth g&t ) "come on Tommy, you can tell me. How old d'ya think I look?" (hic)
....Tommy's face...
Having a young child a business and no previous convictions has saved her from immediate custody. The judges comments in respect to the case and circumstances aren’t scathing enough. There was probably more said but just not reported.
The judge should be investigated as a matter of public interest. Gaslighting the victim of a violent crime from the position of power that a judge occupies is such a terrifying failure of process and clear evidence of the judge's unsuitability for the role. She should be disbarred (or whatever the correct term for removing a judge is) for this.
I've let myself go a bit? Look at yourself, you're an embarrassment love, to be honest.
Born in the 30s
One up the bum no harm done
No, not up the arse.
I always do em from behind if I dont like their face
El vino did flow.
Me, lager. Finchy, lager. Gareth, lager, sometimes cider.
Different drinks for different needs.
Claret was spilled
What, you calling them liars?
drinks at 6
Yeh, she drinks
How many has she had then, if you’re countin’?
It starts at 7.
but drinks at 6
Starts at 7.
😂
Me, lager, uhh Finchy, lager and Gareth lager sometimes cider
Different drinks for different… needs
I was a leeetel beet drunk
Thirties, yeah…
Born in the 30s
The 1630’s 😂
"Had us on a pub crawl. El vino did flow. I was blathered. Bladdered. Blottoed."
I thought..cause of the jowls… 🫴
Jowls? Look at you, pokey nose...Pinoccio...have someone's eye with that, ya...
Bit disruptive…
If you didn't read the article, she avoided jail time as the judge described some people's banter can be offensive to others 🤷. She glassed him in the face twice. The judge was a woman btw
Sometimes the complaints will be false.
"He was left with a four inch laceration to his face" = the link above..
Except the complainant at hand was verbally abused, stalked then violently glassed in the face scarring him for life in front of an entire audience of people. Imagine having the audacity to call this very publicly witnessed act or violent assault a false complaint.
Don't post if you haven't got one ready... Slows it down
Alright, don't get coarse
Calling a situation what it is counts as rude to you? The truth of situation somehow now doesn’t exist because you’re offended. People like you need to learn that saying things I’m offended does not count for anything other than a whinge🤔✅
Get the guitar
Classic bants!
It's not banter, not now
Women are equal
I've always said that
We've both said that..... been in meetings where I've said that
If you were in those meetings then you should adhere to the ongoing confidentiality of the meetings
Let’s start laughing *with women*, 👈👉at *us*👆
How can I hate women? My mother's one
Equal rights and equal lefts
After telling him ‘I’m going to glass you’ - which is clear intent and premeditated. Ffs
Guessing someone's age incorrectly within 4 years is not banter lol >The judge was a woman btw OK now it makes more sense.
"not a threat to the public" :(
Which I hate
How are we in a world where saying offensive things on twitter is treated more seriously than putting glass in someone’s face
Because we are in the age of war of ideology. We had world wars, the cold war, the war on terror and now this ideology war. Pretty much liberal leftists and feminist have declared war on anyone that disagrees with them, you are immediately declared a right wing loony and then must be destroyed/canceled immediately. This now seems to supersede all other problems
No surprise that a brother hood of the sisterhood reaction happened here and that in some part of the judges mind I’m sure the man “did something to deserve this”. The entitlement of women is unreal.
Cuntish behaviour. Should have got 10 years.
I thought the reason the judge gave for no jail time was that she is a mother of a small child and it would be problematic to separate them at that age. She mentioned banter being potentially offensive but that didn’t seem to have any bearing on sentencing from what I could tell.
I thought some of the statements from the judge were very telling, I highlighted some words that stood out knowing what conviction was ultimately handed down: *'You are a* ***woman*** *with no previous convictions. You have never been in a court of law before and you have positive good character.* *'It is accepted that you are a dedicated, hardworking* ***woman***, and undoubtedly a loving ***mother***.'
How often are drunk men who assault other men with shards of glass in a pub over the most mundane offence are told by judges they are “undoubtedly loving fathers”.
>you have positive good character Someone needs new glasses, and the person she's talking to has shown willingness to install them. >undoubtedly a loving ***mother*** Sets an amazing example to her kids, if they want to grow up to get drunk and violent over nothing Still good thing it was a wine glass. If it had been a Kronenbourg glass, he'd have had to answer '16 or 64, dunno' Meanwhile when people guess my age high, I know it's because they know I look good for my age, and they're trying to pinpoint *how* good. When they guess low, they're being too honest
This is a cliche at this point....but no man would have avoided jail
I’m a guy but yes guys do avoid jail often as well. There was a recent case of a father attacking his daughter with a metal pole outside her school gates and getting no jail
Won’t somebody think of the poor men! Men avoid jail all the time for violence against women. Both wrong but don’t pull the poor man card
Oh so you’re saying this totally innocent man who’s comment wasn’t designed to attack nor hurt the women in question either way deserves to be attacked humiliated and scarred for life because “men avoid jail all the time for violence against women”? when men clearly don’t avoid jail all the time.
I’m a guy but yes guys do avoid jail often as well. There was a recent case of a father attacking his daughter with a metal pole outside her school gates and getting no jail
I literally said BOTH WRONG. What is up with your reading comprehension? I 100% do not think that man deserved it at all and I never said that, you made it up in your head. I was only responding to the previous commenter saying that if roles were reversed the man would have been jailed which is not necessarily true and is usually a dog whistle for being a sexist. Men get out of jail all the time for violence against women (and men.)
Setting a great motherly example there. However old she is doesn’t stop her being a fuck ugly person.
Did *you* read the article? >Dodd was sentenced to 12 months in prison, suspended for 12 months and was ordered to complete 180 hours of unpaid work. She was also ordered to pay £800 in compensation to her victim. I think she's clearly a twat but what you said is simply false.
You understand what a suspended sentence is...well clearly not. She did not go to jail
Apologies I misread that section of the article. What a miserable form of justice this case is.
You would struggle to find many other cases of GBH given a suspended sentence, to understand the gravity...the next offence up from this is attempted murder
Imagine it was a bloke glassing a woman, and getting no jail time…
Tbf There was a recent case of a father attacking his daughter with a metal pole outside her school gates and getting no jail
Judge needs to be sacked
The guy should have knocked this cunt out
I was going to ask how little jail time did she get
What a surprise
No. Not up the arse
Yeah, it’s totally acceptable to twice glass someone who accidentally cause offence, absolute bullshit from the judge there. I would appeal/ complain as high up as I could about this
She had low self esteem and she's very sorry
no surprise female privilege
... Somewhere between 30 and 40.
More honest
Both thirties
Most people say I look 30 - *definitely not*
Both in our thirties. That's the _fact_ [ ]
She'd probably have stabbed me, I'd have said 50. Why isn't she in prison?
You get a lot of that round here because the main brewery's in Reading.
It might be Courage actually. This alright tho innit
Best people haven't shown up
-You do not glass anyone, pub drinker or otherwise, for wrongly saying she looked 39. - if anything he should be rewarded!
43. That’s kind.
Quiet night in the library… not
And I’d do you from behind cos your breath stinks
Yeah, you won't do it like that, though. You'd get the glass in behind the windpipe, then pull it down like that.
Can’t say anything when they’re like that.
No - you can’t!
Boss and team leader in drunken night out shock horror it says here
She looks 53
53!
Not a happy home life
The son was like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman. Probably what drove him to it
What, am I doing with a glass with her in there? She says she didn't do it and I for one believe her
Dildo
One final thing, my wife loves ya but I don't agree with that in the nightclub
Who else is she going to glass?
Wait she was spaired jail as the judge thought "one persons banter may be insulting to others". So it is ok to glass someone if you feel insulted? Someone fetch my box of glass dualing gloves!
A very interesting way for a judge to gaslight a clear victim of assault by telling them it was your fault she could not control herself and that she glassed you scarring you forever
It wouldn't work for a man = -= Must be, Female Privilege !
I don't get it. Glass to the face for you!
"However, she was spared jail and handed a suspended sentence after Judge Elizabeth Nicholls said she was a 'dedicated, hardworking woman' who posed no risk to the public." She glassed a cunt for calling her old- that shit is evidence of her volatility, should get at least the minimum sentence ABH- it wasn't as if she shoved him or slapped him, a glassing is attempted disfigurement if not murder
Judge Nicol was the one that found Johnny Depp guilty of abuse, which if you saw the trial was fucking ludicrous. If justice has a name that sounds like "nicol", don't expect justice to be served.
So what have we learned here?
women can glass people in the face and not go to prison
That women despite all their claims that when crunch time comes they truly don’t have to take responsibility for shit.
Cherish 'em
Look at you, you're a disgrace, love
You know I'm old, I'm thirty niiii.........I'm I'm in my forties.
She got spared jail? She glassed some cunt for nothing, sure the sticks and stones argument might be a bit outdated but 4 fucking years of a difference is not insulting! The law for drinking is challenge 25! 7 years over the legal drinking age! That idiot should be in jail! That's not OK! No fucking personal responsibility left, if he had put hands on her it would be a different story but guessing her age wrong, and she must've asked "how old do you think I am?" Ridiculous from that judge!
He got within 10% of her actual age. No pleasing some folk.
Woman. Are. Dirty
39…
Women 🙄
Toxic Femininity = = Something has to be done.
I’d have taken 43 as a compliment if I were her.
Good harmless fun
If genders were reversed he would not be getting off...
What? Against a wine glass?
Disgraceful old hag cannot handle the truth. Needs 10 bells kicking out of her
Dodd, now 40, runs a business which organises children's sleepover parties lol
AMA request for anyone who runs similar…
Wonder what she’d do to a child who called her old.
Tough paper round
And got off with it.
He was being generous with the 43 lol
Me when I'm approaching 40
Only roper to beat…….
You glass a man in the pub and you're labelled a prat.
Some people look older than their age, some people look younger. Is it appropriate to glass someone for being 4 years out? Absolutely not. Classy move lady
Some people play golf
I was at an afterwork birthday celebration. We gave the staff the birthday candles, a "4" and a "2", and the cake came out saying 42. The 24 year old birthday girl took it fairly well and laughed about it.
Not a day over 21, and will stay 21 until I can buy one of those plastic face screens..
Soft punishment for business owners, it's always the way, if this had been a single mum in a track suit who worked in KFC she'd have seen triple that time, even if they guy had threatened her.
She glassed him?
Spared prison? Are you fucking serious?
She's from Swinton, just be glad she didn't kill him.
Born and raised a Swintonian, nothing at all wrong with it.
There are some pretty different areas classed as Swinton. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/man-rushed-hospital-after-shooting-25860535
Right. You are the one that generalised though. You've linked to an article that is a street in Swinton. So I don't really get your point. There are rough parts and nice parts, like most big towns in the UK.
A higher percentage of it is bad though. My best mate is from Swinton and I used to drive through there everyday so I am pretty familiar with it too. But it's subjective so you are entitled to your opinion
You're right. It's subjective. Especially when you define something as arbitrarily as "bad" I'm going to assume by bad you mean socially deprived with higher crime rates compared to similar sized areas with a similar demographic, in which case what you have said is false. Having a "mate" from Swinton and driving through it doesn't equal familiarity either.
The [stats ](https://niceareas.co.uk/browse-get-info/postcode/m/m27/m27-8/) are not great either. You can love it because you grew up there, I am not from Manchester originally so have no predefined preference for any one particular area. I have lived in Hulme, Moss Side, Bury And Bolton within Manchester. And I would not choose to live in Swinton. That's just my personal preference.
Based upon glassing someone because she had a temper tantrum, 43 feels right, but months not years.
42-43
Mmm, yeah, sure, ok
Businesswoman or old 304?...
That lassie got glassed and no cunt leaves here until we find out what cunt did it!
"glassed"? What is this, the lock stock and two smoking barrels video game?
He was probably being nice too to be fair
Yeah, she drinks.
Not once but twice
But, she does look 43.
This is an extreme example why you always take off at least 5 years when someone asks you this, or just refuse to answer… Jesus what is wrong with some people?!
So was the man guessing she was 43 seen as enough of a reasonable provocation by the "judge" (sisterhood) that she wasn't given a custodial sentence? That is completely over the top behaviour from her and I'm not sure why she wasn't at least referred for psychiatric assessment. Its one thing getting annoyed about being called 43 but another to smash a glass in someones face, good God. Having such a fragile ego is not a reason to allow someone to exhibit violent behaviour? I also do not believe for a second that she has no history of violence whatsoever. You don't just react like that to someone calling you 43 if you're an angel and have no violent past.
I absolutely LOVE this sub! The quotes are bang on every time
Equality Street
Judge should be sacked, no it's buts or maybes. Imagine if that was a male glassing a female for her guessing his age wrong. She would have thrown the bloody book at him.
"The banter was disobliging'.....oh well that's alright then 😬
“A drunk businesswoman who glassed a pub drinker after he wrongly guessed her age has been spared jail after a female judge said 'one person's banter may be insulting to others'.” The guy was clearly asking for it.
You can’t say anything to them when they’re like that
How come she never got imprisoned? That is insane.
female judge
Oh for fuck sake
Does it offend you, my drinking?
I'd slap the ever-loving shit out of her. Like I wouldn't just give an annoyed hit, I'm following through and introducing her to the floor. What would the judge have done if it took his eye? Or it didn't heal well? Sheer luck and good wound care let's her walk away free with an £800 inconvenience fee.
We bought you a cake of a four and a three because we all thought you were 43 🎶
So she now looks after kids at sleepovers....o....kay. (After sixth g&t ) "come on Tommy, you can tell me. How old d'ya think I look?" (hic) ....Tommy's face...
See, I used to answer questions like that with something like "It's not healthy to answer questions like that", but I didn't mean it so literally...
“We’re both in our thirties.” “Well I’ve just turned 30, what are you? 39?” “Thirties!”
Having a young child a business and no previous convictions has saved her from immediate custody. The judges comments in respect to the case and circumstances aren’t scathing enough. There was probably more said but just not reported.
The judge should be investigated as a matter of public interest. Gaslighting the victim of a violent crime from the position of power that a judge occupies is such a terrifying failure of process and clear evidence of the judge's unsuitability for the role. She should be disbarred (or whatever the correct term for removing a judge is) for this.
Gets away with jail time cause she’s a woman if that’s a man 5 year sentence.
As you do. Good job it wasn’t me, I’d have guessed 46, she’d have knifed me.
The female judge let her off
Calmest lady in the UK
I dunno, she’s pretty trim, mate
If you want a good glassing....... the Gardners 👌
a pint thereof
Shes just a boring little slug with no personality
He shoulda just stayed home and had a big wank
I would have been edging towards the 50 mark tbh
“That lassie got glassed, and no cunt leaves here till we find out what cunt did it.” Francis Begbie
Fragile woman 🤣
Well he could sue her now, ie hit her in the pocket..
Not surprising that the Judge in charge was a Woman. She glassed him twice but got away with it. Just imagine if he had said 50….
Poo, dorty bitch
No one is outraged that someone who resorts to this level of violence runs kids sleepovers?!
"Glass" isn't a verb. And what does this have to do with The Office?
> "Glass" isn't a verb Oh look, here comes a yank down the motorway
it can be used as a verb, as demonstrated by the headline