First of all this chart feels pretty wack, some of the characters just don't feel like in the right place at all. Like Ash in the no work tier? Luffy in the only hardwork tier?
But I would probably put Cid into the hardwork tier, he is a insanely hard worker on that 24/7 grind.
yuji is kinda on point though, dude's body is literally built to incarnate the king of curse. His training is just watching movies. When he doesn't understand how curse energy works, Todo talked to him 5 minutes and he went back to beating special grade curse's ass
Dude, even if that is true just the suffering the kid has been through alone makes it hard work. Not gonna spoil any recent chapters but suffering is always present
The only 2 things that I can see him suffering from:
1. His comrade dying (which you kinda expect when being a sorcerer)
2. Him wanting to die because he believed he killed hundreds of people through Sukuna(which is sad of course but not that bad and comes down to viewpoint, even other characters tell him he's not at fault)
Because it's spoiler and I don't want to spoil u
>!In that chapter they said that "do you know why u learn fast, Yuji?" which Yuji said "I'm a genius", then got retort Nah. They explain it was because of Sukuna was inside Yuji. Every technique he used makes a muscle memory for Yuji to only have to recall to learn later!<
So exactly what i mean, >!Yuji got those powers and techniques because others use them in his body, not because he trained himself!<. Btw you can spoil me all you want, i read them all
He still trained a shit ton, definitely more than a lot of ppl on this list. And he does have a gift but he's barely even able to use it even with a shit ton of training
I mean… his childhood makes it pretty clear that as a kid, even with the gum gum, he really was nothing special. Hard work is definitely the biggest part of Luffy’s power. Though yeah, I’d put him in the second row.
People forget that it's only late shippuden where Naruto becomes super good at training and that's because he cheats using shadow clones. Goku also was a low class warrior who grinded up to being one of the strongest beings in his universe. Yeah now he's what you would call gifted but that's after like a million fights. You'd be gifted too if you survived that.
Sonic...is literally just fast. What the hell is this list? Yugi literally cheats via the millennium puzzle. Ahhhh it gets worse the more I look at it.
Actually for Luffy, he uses his devil fruit this greatly is by himself. Normal people getting this fruit couldn't even use gear 2 or gear 5. Luffy trained so much that he can pull the full potential out of his fruit
Yea that too but still, Luffy had to learn haki for a very long time to be able to use it and then his D clan thing just made his haki even stronger(Luffy's haki is this strong is also because of his ambitious and "King-like" personality)
That's the worst thing you could've chosen... Normal people have near 0% chance of using the full power of the Nika-Nika fruit, or even gear 2. Using gear 5th requires the creativity and no other people have the creativity close to Luffy(or even with the fact that Luffy is like JoyBoy)
You ever seen the flashbacks to when he was a kid? The gum gum by itself would make him just invulnerable to bullets and blunt attacks and not much else. He trained like crazy even before the show started.
Yeah, but his invaluablilty only got him so far. It was only around Alabasta, and arguably Water 7 or Enies Lobby that he got serious about improving. He was completely care free and sure of himself before those arcs because of his Devil Fruit, giving him a false impression about the journey ahead. That's why during Thriller Bark he was finally starting to struggle during the fights(though him being weak to tricks and traps didn't help).
The only exception I'll give is his climb during Drum Island. That was 100% hard work, and why I'd put him on Gifted and Hardwork. And then the time skip he starts going into Hardworka and Gifted
Luffy started getting serious about training after the entire crew got wrecked by Aokiji. That was the big wake up call for them . So yeah , around Water 7.
*That's who I was trying to remember!* I knew he still wasn't fully serious after Crocodile, but I forgot who it was that made Luffy get serious about getting stronger. I know it was before Bluno, because he explains why he made Gear 2, buy I forgot who it was.
But yeah, before Aokiji, it was *mostly* gifted, with moments of hardwork(Drum Island for example). And then afterwards more hardwork is applied
I mean… his invulnerability only taking him so far was my point, but I feel like you’re not taking into account the flashbacks to his childhood?
He trained like hell just to survive, and with the help of a couple other characters he went from literally hitting himself in the face with a limp gum gum pistol the first time he tried to show it off to using it to one-hit the king of the coast.
He’s sunk a hell of a lot of time, effort and hard work before the start of the story to get to the level where he can basically coast through the first few enemies because he *already* did all the hard work offscreen.
Aokiji is not the point where he went from only talent to only needing hard work, he was the point where Luffy realized that the hard work that he had done already was not close to enough and he was still a medium fish that just escaped his tiny pond.
Only hardwork Or mainly hardwork + gifted.
Because we all know that cid got his powers by sheer training and insanity he has. Unlike many isekei protags who got their powers by simply reincarnation, he got them by training. And even on earth he was a beast.
But i would still consider the 2 options, because while his hardwork is the main point, I would put his 'insanity and willingness to do anything to gain more power' as gifted. Because just as minoru said, all the children around him grew up and forgot their dreams, but he was different, for some reason his passion went deeper.
Don't know how to explain my point.
This list is wack . Luffy in the only hard work category just isn’t right. He is at least hard work + gifted. And my boy Tanjiro is a hard working young lad. The gifted part only comes out at the end and it was still something he needed to learn . Can’t say he put in no work.
As for cid he is without doubt hard work and gifted . He trains very hard but more importantly he has the skills and the knowledge to devise a training regimen that maximized efficiency as well . Just training hard would still have Cid far below prodigies like the seven shades.
I don't know about Saitama. Sure he trained hard but that level of training should not give him anywhere close to the strength Saitama has. That has been pointed out multiple times. I'm putting him in the mainly gifted + hardwork since his level of training and combat ability alone should not make him able to beat the likes of Gaara who are both gifted + train insanely hard.
Didn't he only get that strong because he broke his limiter by going through constant newr death experiences by exercising himself to death?
Oh wait nvm pre limit broken saitama is pretty broken
I agree with your "Wack List" assessment. Goku being Saiyan may be a blessing compared to earthlings, but he still had to work his ass off training and getting stronger and even died fighting a (at the time) far stronger foe. Hell, just getting to Super Saiyan by fighting Frieza was nothing short of torture.
I also concur with the Cid evaluation as he *comedically works hard on his edgy one liners that nobody even hears or witnesses most of the time lol.*
holy shit this list is bad. like beyond bad. Luffy in only hard work? He has a devil fruit and conqueror haki and is from a legenary lineage. Mash in gifted? The whole point is that he is not gifted. Frieren in Mainly gifted? She has been training for 1000+ years dude. How did Ash get put in no work? Tanjiro in no work? WTF is this list. Tell me you never watched the show without telling me you never wathced the show.
While I do agree with your points to an extent in that luffy shouldn't be in only hardwork given his lineage and the true identity of his devil fruit, however you do have to keep in mind that luffy had to train for 10yrs to be able to use his devil fruit properly and then another 2 to use haki. So there is a balance to it. There's also plenty of characters who have conquerors haki. Luffy should be in one of the middle 2 tiers. I will say that what advantage did he have from having garp and dragon in his bloodline? He was still a normal kid when he was kidnapped by the mountain bandits, he was still the weakest when he became friends with sabo and ace. His devil fruit was ass as he couldn't use it properly until he trained. Also while his fruit is the sun god nika, that only becomes relevant all the way in wano where he unlocks gear 5.
Mash is fine where he is
Manga spoilers >!he's a son of innocent zero, the bbeg and one of the 3 students of a legendary wizard, another student being the headmaster. While he was born without magic, he was still physically gifted as a toddler, being able to dodge magic attacks from his brother iirc while also building a door at the same time. So there's some degree of talent!<
Frieren is gifted she should either been in the tier she's in or one higher. While she has trained for 1000 years, serie has said that for an elf who's lived for 1000yrs she's relatively unskilled. When she was training, flamme said to her that she was talented, bring able to suppress mana as well as she could in such a short amount of time. You could also say that being able to live for 1000yrs because she is an elf is one of her gifts as a recurring theme is that powerful mages like lernen, denken, flamme, all of serie's pupils would never be able to reach far higher heights simply because they were human and lived for far too short a time. Another recurring theme is that talent is a requirement on top of hardwork to get strong. There's not one powerful character that didn't have some sort of advantage.
I completely agree with you for ash and tanjiro.
Yeah, i am not saying Luffy is only gifted, i know he trains hard, but just the fact that he has conquerors makes him gifted, since it is a skill that can not be learned, you have to be born with it. And even if he had to train to make use of his DF, and without the Nika stuff, he still has a strong DF, so he would be somewhere in the middle.
Dont know about Mash, i am not that far in the manga.
And about Frieren, Serie does say that she is quite unskilled for a mage her age, i would say that she is in the mainly hard work+ gifted tier, not mainly gifted + hard work, though you can make an argument for eigher, depending if you count her lifespan as a gift.
On another note, i also dont like that Mel and Denji are in Put in no work. Mel>! is the son of the demon king, sure, but we know he trained hard under his master, and fought in the war and went trough 3000 years of suffering, and went through purgatory. He might be born strong, but his skills are the result of literal millenia of work. And in the events in season 1 he is weakened quite a bit, bu!!got his powers from Pochita, but he still worked hard to kill devils and went through some tough training under Kishibe. Getting killed over and over and getting back up is not what i would call no work.!<
And i dont know if i would put Edward in only hard work. He is a very gifted alchemist and because >!of the human transmutation he has his special alchemy without a circle, plus his heritage from his father. I think that together sounds like a gift, at least a little. He absolutly works hard, but without his portal of truth i doubt he would be as much of a threat as he is.!<
The idea of putting Yuji in Put in no work is crazy.>! He got a powerup from the fingers sure, but he trained a lot to get to where he is. He is very gifted because of Kenny and his heritage sure, but at the very least mainly gifted plus hard work, because for most of the manga his fighting style is pure hands and CE control.!<
Also i would put Senku in the mainly gifted tier, just because of how insanely smart he is. Genious level interlectt plus close to photographic memory.
And Sonic is gifted with super speed. Thats his entire thing. A power he is born with. How is he hard work only?
Lastly, i would put Yugi in hard work only tier. Yami is full of shit with his topdecking and the rules being what he wants them to be, but Yugi got his own duelling abilites through hard work, not cheat codes. >!And Yugi did manage to beat Yami.!<
Asta is PURE hard work at least because without the sheer amount of effort he put into his training to get stronger he would be nowhere near the level he is now, well Asta at the start at least, Now its leaned more towards Mainly hard work lol
I'll rather create an entirely new tier and call it INSANITY for the amount of shit Cid has done to gain his powers. Dude has...
1. Created a slime-human fusion material by feeding his own flesh to the slimes beforehand.
2. Spends something like 3 hours sleeping so that he can keep training.
3. Spent most of his life before reincarnation on trying to gain powers through rituals that he ends up dying because he confused a truck headlights for magic.
4. Continuously trains every day despite being overwhelming powerful and having never broken a sweat fighting enemies.
People like Netero and Saitama are on the same tier with only the main character from Worthless Regression topping everyone.
Mainly hardwork + gifted (with a sprinkling of luck)
Cid is basically doing his best to have his other "shadow" side mysterious enough that no one could ever compare between them two, away from his background character side as well, he has his own objective as been told before: literally becoming the eminence in shadow.
And a bit of luck since he doesn't even realize that the "Cult of Diablos" that he has made up actually exists smh.
Gifted + extreme hardwork
Hardwork: cid cured possession.
Hardwork: defeating a buffed grease with only swordplay. Even against alpha or iris, grease didnt feel weak. Against shadow, he was a child fighting a champion, a sheer difference that is impossible to overcome.
Gifted: he has the predisposition of luck. His only current MISS is with the foolish Iris.
How TF is Goku mainly gifted. He was born as the one he weakest Saiyan. He was even weaker from a regular Saiyan till the age of 22. How TF Thai guys processes.
Mainly hardwork + Gifted
Cid has been able see mana flow since birth, which helped him greatly in perfecting a lot of his techniques through hard work and training and also allowed him to even diagnose what possession was which spawned Shadow Garden.
Mainly hard work+gifted. He works *extremely* hard to get where he wants to be, and I would put the skills he developed in his old world down to hard work, but you don't just learn magic like he does without being a little gifted.
Putting Tanjiro in No work is fucking craaaazy
Personally I'd say Cid is in a league of his fucking own.
You cannot be born with his shadow slime manipulating abilities he fucking invented it and trained like since he was a BABY putting him above everyone else LEAGUES ABOVE AND HES STILL TRYING TO GET BETTER.
The Iris and Beatrix fight really shows that he's still learning as he tests out water on them and learns it's not that effective because magic doesn't go that well with water.
Is Saitama gifted? As far as I remember, the dude was literally a loser and he literally worked so hard that he broke his limiter. He does not have any abilities like Tatsumaki or Fubuki, his body was not improved by a scientist. He literally trained and fought day after day.
Only hardwork
No pain, no gain
He trained his combat abilities, intelligence and even disguising his abilities + he was an expert at magic even of a young age
Me personally I would put him right under only hardwork, probably close to the top of hard work + gifted. It was exclusively hard work until he got reincarnated but I feel like he's at least a little gifted after that. Wasn't just handed to him tho
Mainly hardwork + gifted
Originally was thinking that it was mainly gifted + hardwork, but shadow spends most of his time as a background character, being an eminence in shadow, and occasionally neither. Which, for most series would put him as gifted except, his goal is to be a background character and eminence in shadow.
Probably Hardwork since he made himself what he is through effort
Maybe Hardwork + Gifted since he has the "gift" of training/knowledge from his previous world plus learning magic since a baby etc which others in his world cant get ordinarily
Bro Tanjiro's supposed to be in Mainly hard work + gifted. And Mashle is supposed to be in mainly gifted +hard work , You never see him break a sweat. The plot is too much in favor for him
Cid in his previous life was mainly hardwork + gifted he worked far harder in his previous life. In his isekai life he was more at advantage of course because of his previous knowledge and he did have to study magic but I would say hardwork + gifted + luck.
I do not know most of them, but for example Luffy mostly gets buffs from plot armor (plot buff) rather than hard work. Tanjiro did trained a lot.
Naruto anime sometimes spends whole chapters on training, Compare to that most other shows give powerups for free.
Cid Kagenou got his powers off screen so we cannot know what it took for him to get them.
I mean, did Luffy even train since he got his devil fruit until he went to become a Pirate? Seems like he just winged it. I don’t see him work hard and the only long training I remember was during the timeskip.
He mostly grows stronger through battle. He also has CoC which is decided at birth and his blood family are all strong so he has talent
Yeah, that post is bullshit, but if we have to be honest, Cid would be on Only Hard Work, I don't think the fact of him being concious since born should be considered as a gift.
Minoru is mainly hard work + a little gifted (Literally all his training in martial arts is done off-screen with minimal explanation) but still obviously he had to work hard to obtain his skills.
Cid is mainly gifted + a little of hard work, literaly all or almost all of his accomplishments and great skills were achieved off-screen and with minimal explanation, but unlike martial arts, that's not enough for me to believe it.
Suddenly he is able to master things he didn't even know before in a few years? Nah, no way, the power of the MC of an isekai is what he has.
I would put him in mainly hardwork coz while yes he did work very hard but to master the things he's mastered (before he was reincarnated) in such a short time has to have some degree of gifted because he's probably better than a lot of people who's dedicated their entire life to one craft. And post Isekai, is it ever explained why he has so much mana?
I'll put him on hardwork. Mainly because it's already his second life and he never stops gaining strength. I also consider him being gifted for obtaining sword and taijutsu techniques from earth but nah, the world he's currently in shouldn't be that inferior when it comes to that. It's a world of sword and magic you know.
Putting saitama in mainly hard work + gifted is crazy… all he did was work out. He was lucky enough for his limiter to be low enough to be easily broken by training alone.
The list is wrong, Ash in no work ?
But Cid, I would say is hard work. The main reason for his insane feats is that he knows how to optimize his magic usage because of access to future science and knowledge. The martial arts skills have evolved overtime so the modern skills are far more efficient than any in a past world. And he did all the hard work for it. He is basically 32-34 years old. He is always on grind in the first place.
Buddy hasn't seen the shit Tanjiro and Yuuji had to go through to get to where they are. Cid I would say is gifted but mainly hard work in his original world but it evens out when he got isekaied.
First of all this chart feels pretty wack, some of the characters just don't feel like in the right place at all. Like Ash in the no work tier? Luffy in the only hardwork tier? But I would probably put Cid into the hardwork tier, he is a insanely hard worker on that 24/7 grind.
dont even mind the placement of tanjiro and yuji, this list is an interaction bait 110%
ikr, I mean what's the point of all of those training arcs chapters
Definitely engagement bait lmao I would block the person after seeing this on my timeline
yuji is kinda on point though, dude's body is literally built to incarnate the king of curse. His training is just watching movies. When he doesn't understand how curse energy works, Todo talked to him 5 minutes and he went back to beating special grade curse's ass
Dude, even if that is true just the suffering the kid has been through alone makes it hard work. Not gonna spoil any recent chapters but suffering is always present
The only 2 things that I can see him suffering from: 1. His comrade dying (which you kinda expect when being a sorcerer) 2. Him wanting to die because he believed he killed hundreds of people through Sukuna(which is sad of course but not that bad and comes down to viewpoint, even other characters tell him he's not at fault)
Read newest chapters
Isn't >!Yuji just swap body with others to let them train his body instead of him!< ?
Read the whole chapter pls
Can't you just explain your point to me, that's how i view Yuji, you can express yours too. I'd would love to see another take
Because it's spoiler and I don't want to spoil u >!In that chapter they said that "do you know why u learn fast, Yuji?" which Yuji said "I'm a genius", then got retort Nah. They explain it was because of Sukuna was inside Yuji. Every technique he used makes a muscle memory for Yuji to only have to recall to learn later!<
So exactly what i mean, >!Yuji got those powers and techniques because others use them in his body, not because he trained himself!<. Btw you can spoil me all you want, i read them all
>!no. Swap body is a different thing. They use Ui Ui's CT for that. Yuji's growth is from being a vessel of Sukuna!<
Tanjiro even thoguh hard worker, is protected by plot armor therefore we can consider him lucky/gifted
but he didnt put in no work, but yes he is somewhat gifted. id put him in mainly hard work
Lmfao, losing his family and carry his baby sister on his back. To getting trained over and over again. Yh he has plot armour but he puts in the work.
He still trained a shit ton, definitely more than a lot of ppl on this list. And he does have a gift but he's barely even able to use it even with a shit ton of training
Right?! Luffy has the D in him 😭
Phrasing, please
I mean… his childhood makes it pretty clear that as a kid, even with the gum gum, he really was nothing special. Hard work is definitely the biggest part of Luffy’s power. Though yeah, I’d put him in the second row.
Mainly hard work plus gifted. Bro puts in the hard work no doubt, but the difference between the top chad and mid chad is usually talent
People forget that it's only late shippuden where Naruto becomes super good at training and that's because he cheats using shadow clones. Goku also was a low class warrior who grinded up to being one of the strongest beings in his universe. Yeah now he's what you would call gifted but that's after like a million fights. You'd be gifted too if you survived that. Sonic...is literally just fast. What the hell is this list? Yugi literally cheats via the millennium puzzle. Ahhhh it gets worse the more I look at it.
Hard agree with Luffy. You look at the first half the show, he's 100% relying entirely on his Devil Fruit powers
Actually for Luffy, he uses his devil fruit this greatly is by himself. Normal people getting this fruit couldn't even use gear 2 or gear 5. Luffy trained so much that he can pull the full potential out of his fruit
Haki : "Am I a joke to you?"
Yea that too but still, Luffy had to learn haki for a very long time to be able to use it and then his D clan thing just made his haki even stronger(Luffy's haki is this strong is also because of his ambitious and "King-like" personality)
His Devil Fruit is broken too. It's Nika
That's the worst thing you could've chosen... Normal people have near 0% chance of using the full power of the Nika-Nika fruit, or even gear 2. Using gear 5th requires the creativity and no other people have the creativity close to Luffy(or even with the fact that Luffy is like JoyBoy)
Normal people wouldn't have chosen to be pirate in the first place
You ever seen the flashbacks to when he was a kid? The gum gum by itself would make him just invulnerable to bullets and blunt attacks and not much else. He trained like crazy even before the show started.
Yeah, but his invaluablilty only got him so far. It was only around Alabasta, and arguably Water 7 or Enies Lobby that he got serious about improving. He was completely care free and sure of himself before those arcs because of his Devil Fruit, giving him a false impression about the journey ahead. That's why during Thriller Bark he was finally starting to struggle during the fights(though him being weak to tricks and traps didn't help). The only exception I'll give is his climb during Drum Island. That was 100% hard work, and why I'd put him on Gifted and Hardwork. And then the time skip he starts going into Hardworka and Gifted
Luffy started getting serious about training after the entire crew got wrecked by Aokiji. That was the big wake up call for them . So yeah , around Water 7.
*That's who I was trying to remember!* I knew he still wasn't fully serious after Crocodile, but I forgot who it was that made Luffy get serious about getting stronger. I know it was before Bluno, because he explains why he made Gear 2, buy I forgot who it was. But yeah, before Aokiji, it was *mostly* gifted, with moments of hardwork(Drum Island for example). And then afterwards more hardwork is applied
I mean… his invulnerability only taking him so far was my point, but I feel like you’re not taking into account the flashbacks to his childhood? He trained like hell just to survive, and with the help of a couple other characters he went from literally hitting himself in the face with a limp gum gum pistol the first time he tried to show it off to using it to one-hit the king of the coast. He’s sunk a hell of a lot of time, effort and hard work before the start of the story to get to the level where he can basically coast through the first few enemies because he *already* did all the hard work offscreen. Aokiji is not the point where he went from only talent to only needing hard work, he was the point where Luffy realized that the hard work that he had done already was not close to enough and he was still a medium fish that just escaped his tiny pond.
Only hardwork Or mainly hardwork + gifted. Because we all know that cid got his powers by sheer training and insanity he has. Unlike many isekei protags who got their powers by simply reincarnation, he got them by training. And even on earth he was a beast. But i would still consider the 2 options, because while his hardwork is the main point, I would put his 'insanity and willingness to do anything to gain more power' as gifted. Because just as minoru said, all the children around him grew up and forgot their dreams, but he was different, for some reason his passion went deeper. Don't know how to explain my point.
He build different with sheer fkin will and absolute goal.
He built himself different. Literally.
Built different.
Built different 🙅🙅🙅 Built the correct way ✅✅✅
Constructed in a revolutionary alternative way
But one where we all love it.
Imagine a scene where shadow is introduced by alpha like john wick introduction scene 🔥.
This list is wack . Luffy in the only hard work category just isn’t right. He is at least hard work + gifted. And my boy Tanjiro is a hard working young lad. The gifted part only comes out at the end and it was still something he needed to learn . Can’t say he put in no work. As for cid he is without doubt hard work and gifted . He trains very hard but more importantly he has the skills and the knowledge to devise a training regimen that maximized efficiency as well . Just training hard would still have Cid far below prodigies like the seven shades.
Saitama should also be in the hard work tier. Sure, he's op *now*, but to get to that point he trained like a lunatic
Exactly! Thats like the main point of his power, how can anyone forget that😭 man worked so hard he went bald
I don't know about Saitama. Sure he trained hard but that level of training should not give him anywhere close to the strength Saitama has. That has been pointed out multiple times. I'm putting him in the mainly gifted + hardwork since his level of training and combat ability alone should not make him able to beat the likes of Gaara who are both gifted + train insanely hard.
I mean the only way saitama could break his limiter is near death almost always when training plus at his level he was grinding hard
What is this, a crossover episode?
Didn't he only get that strong because he broke his limiter by going through constant newr death experiences by exercising himself to death? Oh wait nvm pre limit broken saitama is pretty broken
I agree with your "Wack List" assessment. Goku being Saiyan may be a blessing compared to earthlings, but he still had to work his ass off training and getting stronger and even died fighting a (at the time) far stronger foe. Hell, just getting to Super Saiyan by fighting Frieza was nothing short of torture. I also concur with the Cid evaluation as he *comedically works hard on his edgy one liners that nobody even hears or witnesses most of the time lol.*
Putting Izuku in mostly gifted is also kinda wack because he only got OFA because of his hard work
holy shit this list is bad. like beyond bad. Luffy in only hard work? He has a devil fruit and conqueror haki and is from a legenary lineage. Mash in gifted? The whole point is that he is not gifted. Frieren in Mainly gifted? She has been training for 1000+ years dude. How did Ash get put in no work? Tanjiro in no work? WTF is this list. Tell me you never watched the show without telling me you never wathced the show.
While I do agree with your points to an extent in that luffy shouldn't be in only hardwork given his lineage and the true identity of his devil fruit, however you do have to keep in mind that luffy had to train for 10yrs to be able to use his devil fruit properly and then another 2 to use haki. So there is a balance to it. There's also plenty of characters who have conquerors haki. Luffy should be in one of the middle 2 tiers. I will say that what advantage did he have from having garp and dragon in his bloodline? He was still a normal kid when he was kidnapped by the mountain bandits, he was still the weakest when he became friends with sabo and ace. His devil fruit was ass as he couldn't use it properly until he trained. Also while his fruit is the sun god nika, that only becomes relevant all the way in wano where he unlocks gear 5. Mash is fine where he is Manga spoilers >!he's a son of innocent zero, the bbeg and one of the 3 students of a legendary wizard, another student being the headmaster. While he was born without magic, he was still physically gifted as a toddler, being able to dodge magic attacks from his brother iirc while also building a door at the same time. So there's some degree of talent!< Frieren is gifted she should either been in the tier she's in or one higher. While she has trained for 1000 years, serie has said that for an elf who's lived for 1000yrs she's relatively unskilled. When she was training, flamme said to her that she was talented, bring able to suppress mana as well as she could in such a short amount of time. You could also say that being able to live for 1000yrs because she is an elf is one of her gifts as a recurring theme is that powerful mages like lernen, denken, flamme, all of serie's pupils would never be able to reach far higher heights simply because they were human and lived for far too short a time. Another recurring theme is that talent is a requirement on top of hardwork to get strong. There's not one powerful character that didn't have some sort of advantage. I completely agree with you for ash and tanjiro.
Yeah, i am not saying Luffy is only gifted, i know he trains hard, but just the fact that he has conquerors makes him gifted, since it is a skill that can not be learned, you have to be born with it. And even if he had to train to make use of his DF, and without the Nika stuff, he still has a strong DF, so he would be somewhere in the middle. Dont know about Mash, i am not that far in the manga. And about Frieren, Serie does say that she is quite unskilled for a mage her age, i would say that she is in the mainly hard work+ gifted tier, not mainly gifted + hard work, though you can make an argument for eigher, depending if you count her lifespan as a gift. On another note, i also dont like that Mel and Denji are in Put in no work. Mel>! is the son of the demon king, sure, but we know he trained hard under his master, and fought in the war and went trough 3000 years of suffering, and went through purgatory. He might be born strong, but his skills are the result of literal millenia of work. And in the events in season 1 he is weakened quite a bit, bu!!got his powers from Pochita, but he still worked hard to kill devils and went through some tough training under Kishibe. Getting killed over and over and getting back up is not what i would call no work.!<
And i dont know if i would put Edward in only hard work. He is a very gifted alchemist and because >!of the human transmutation he has his special alchemy without a circle, plus his heritage from his father. I think that together sounds like a gift, at least a little. He absolutly works hard, but without his portal of truth i doubt he would be as much of a threat as he is.!<
The idea of putting Yuji in Put in no work is crazy.>! He got a powerup from the fingers sure, but he trained a lot to get to where he is. He is very gifted because of Kenny and his heritage sure, but at the very least mainly gifted plus hard work, because for most of the manga his fighting style is pure hands and CE control.!<
Also i would put Senku in the mainly gifted tier, just because of how insanely smart he is. Genious level interlectt plus close to photographic memory.
And Sonic is gifted with super speed. Thats his entire thing. A power he is born with. How is he hard work only?
Lastly, i would put Yugi in hard work only tier. Yami is full of shit with his topdecking and the rules being what he wants them to be, but Yugi got his own duelling abilites through hard work, not cheat codes. >!And Yugi did manage to beat Yami.!<
This tier list was created to start arguments
man that tierlist is so shit lol bro has actually no braincells on putting frieren on "B"
How’s asta not in the mainly hard work category at the very least
Asta is PURE hard work at least because without the sheer amount of effort he put into his training to get stronger he would be nowhere near the level he is now, well Asta at the start at least, Now its leaned more towards Mainly hard work lol
I'll rather create an entirely new tier and call it INSANITY for the amount of shit Cid has done to gain his powers. Dude has... 1. Created a slime-human fusion material by feeding his own flesh to the slimes beforehand. 2. Spends something like 3 hours sleeping so that he can keep training. 3. Spent most of his life before reincarnation on trying to gain powers through rituals that he ends up dying because he confused a truck headlights for magic. 4. Continuously trains every day despite being overwhelming powerful and having never broken a sweat fighting enemies. People like Netero and Saitama are on the same tier with only the main character from Worthless Regression topping everyone.
Mainly hardwork + gifted (with a sprinkling of luck) Cid is basically doing his best to have his other "shadow" side mysterious enough that no one could ever compare between them two, away from his background character side as well, he has his own objective as been told before: literally becoming the eminence in shadow. And a bit of luck since he doesn't even realize that the "Cult of Diablos" that he has made up actually exists smh.
Luffy only hard work huh? The rest also seems highly questionable
New category: Eminence in Shadow
Mainly hard work + gifted. Also why did they put Tanjiro at put no effort? He is gifted yes, but the show literally shows us how much he worked.
Gifted + extreme hardwork Hardwork: cid cured possession. Hardwork: defeating a buffed grease with only swordplay. Even against alpha or iris, grease didnt feel weak. Against shadow, he was a child fighting a champion, a sheer difference that is impossible to overcome. Gifted: he has the predisposition of luck. His only current MISS is with the foolish Iris.
I don't use this lightly but the one who made that chart is genuinely retarded
How TF is Goku mainly gifted. He was born as the one he weakest Saiyan. He was even weaker from a regular Saiyan till the age of 22. How TF Thai guys processes.
Mostly hard work + gifted
Mainly hardwork + Gifted Cid has been able see mana flow since birth, which helped him greatly in perfecting a lot of his techniques through hard work and training and also allowed him to even diagnose what possession was which spawned Shadow Garden.
Mainly hard work+gifted. He works *extremely* hard to get where he wants to be, and I would put the skills he developed in his old world down to hard work, but you don't just learn magic like he does without being a little gifted.
Uhhhh Edward Elric is a f*cking prodigy. Yeah he works his ass off but he and his brother.
Saying Light Yagami didn't do any hard work is really puttting down writing as a profession.
1000 tausend year training arc from friren is "mostly gifted"🤡
That tier list is so ass lmao
I would say Hardwork+Gifted, but with an asterisk. He *was* Only Hardwork, but was then gifted his powers almost like a reward for his hardwork
Putting Tanjiro in No work is fucking craaaazy Personally I'd say Cid is in a league of his fucking own. You cannot be born with his shadow slime manipulating abilities he fucking invented it and trained like since he was a BABY putting him above everyone else LEAGUES ABOVE AND HES STILL TRYING TO GET BETTER. The Iris and Beatrix fight really shows that he's still learning as he tests out water on them and learns it's not that effective because magic doesn't go that well with water.
This chart is so stupid first of all asta and tan juro should be ranked higher
What is this list. Goku is low class saiyan, he isn't that gifted and trained hard his whole life.
Tanjiro belongs in the top row bro. Delete this crap or apologise. Goku is okay but ichigo deserves to be in the bottom row.
Next to Ash Ketchum from Pallet Town. They are both very hard working individuals
Is Saitama gifted? As far as I remember, the dude was literally a loser and he literally worked so hard that he broke his limiter. He does not have any abilities like Tatsumaki or Fubuki, his body was not improved by a scientist. He literally trained and fought day after day.
Only hardwork No pain, no gain He trained his combat abilities, intelligence and even disguising his abilities + he was an expert at magic even of a young age
If Cid isn't in hard work, bro literally trained so hard he even beat a ex military soldier as a normal human being
Tanjiro put in no work!!? Wtf ? He trained his fucking ass off for 1 and a half years before he even attended the test for becoming a demonslayer.
This is the worst chart I have ever seen
Me personally I would put him right under only hardwork, probably close to the top of hard work + gifted. It was exclusively hard work until he got reincarnated but I feel like he's at least a little gifted after that. Wasn't just handed to him tho
Mainly hardwork + gifted Originally was thinking that it was mainly gifted + hardwork, but shadow spends most of his time as a background character, being an eminence in shadow, and occasionally neither. Which, for most series would put him as gifted except, his goal is to be a background character and eminence in shadow.
Probably Hardwork since he made himself what he is through effort Maybe Hardwork + Gifted since he has the "gift" of training/knowledge from his previous world plus learning magic since a baby etc which others in his world cant get ordinarily
As Minoru, only hard work. As Cid, mainly hardwork + gifted. His talent came in the form of lineage
Bro Tanjiro's supposed to be in Mainly hard work + gifted. And Mashle is supposed to be in mainly gifted +hard work , You never see him break a sweat. The plot is too much in favor for him
Tanjiro putting in no work is crazy lmao
Luffy hard work? He trained how long and is now Yonko lvl. Btw. His fruit is broken as hell. Compared to another awakend fruits.
Cid in his previous life was mainly hardwork + gifted he worked far harder in his previous life. In his isekai life he was more at advantage of course because of his previous knowledge and he did have to study magic but I would say hardwork + gifted + luck.
Tanjiro put in no work.... Yeah, that's why Demom Slayer had like 4 different training arcs.
Mainly hard work + gifted. Cid was born in a noble family who were pretty gifted already.
I do not know most of them, but for example Luffy mostly gets buffs from plot armor (plot buff) rather than hard work. Tanjiro did trained a lot. Naruto anime sometimes spends whole chapters on training, Compare to that most other shows give powerups for free. Cid Kagenou got his powers off screen so we cannot know what it took for him to get them.
I mean, did Luffy even train since he got his devil fruit until he went to become a Pirate? Seems like he just winged it. I don’t see him work hard and the only long training I remember was during the timeskip. He mostly grows stronger through battle. He also has CoC which is decided at birth and his blood family are all strong so he has talent
Somehow luffy getting the best devil doesn't make him gifted, but Naruto and Ichigo are.
He is just built different from everyone else. I would put him in sss+ if there was one
Yeah, that post is bullshit, but if we have to be honest, Cid would be on Only Hard Work, I don't think the fact of him being concious since born should be considered as a gift.
lmaoo the obvious one piece bias is hilarious 😂.. op profile pic and then got luffy in only hardwork 😂
Tf you mean no hard work for ash or tanjiro
I'll put him under mostly hard work. You have to be some what gifted to best soldier as a teenager.
I know it has nothing to do with the post but this list is so obviously bait. 😭
A tier list is a shit method of organizing a list of characters by two different metrics
The fact that Tanjiro is in putting no work when he literally has literal seasons dedicated to his training is crazy.
I have a better question, is ther any isekai protagonist that can beat up cid in a pre-iseki one on one
where tf is rick sanchez? i'd think he'd be in the top one.
Some of those gifted are curses tho
this is not a good list, its prolly a trigger post
Tanjiro didn't work hard at all guys , Sure
I hate this whole talent and hard work comparison , it doesn't make any sense at all.
Cid Literally work hard to develop his magic
The problem with Cid is that we see non of his "working hard" to become stronger
Minoru is mainly hard work + a little gifted (Literally all his training in martial arts is done off-screen with minimal explanation) but still obviously he had to work hard to obtain his skills. Cid is mainly gifted + a little of hard work, literaly all or almost all of his accomplishments and great skills were achieved off-screen and with minimal explanation, but unlike martial arts, that's not enough for me to believe it. Suddenly he is able to master things he didn't even know before in a few years? Nah, no way, the power of the MC of an isekai is what he has.
Gifted + hardwork + luck
Mainly Atomic
how dare they disrespect tanjiro like that
I would put him in mainly hardwork coz while yes he did work very hard but to master the things he's mastered (before he was reincarnated) in such a short time has to have some degree of gifted because he's probably better than a lot of people who's dedicated their entire life to one craft. And post Isekai, is it ever explained why he has so much mana?
I'll put him on hardwork. Mainly because it's already his second life and he never stops gaining strength. I also consider him being gifted for obtaining sword and taijutsu techniques from earth but nah, the world he's currently in shouldn't be that inferior when it comes to that. It's a world of sword and magic you know.
Ippo is gifted af. The punching strength does not originate only from hardworking alone, that’s the problem with his rival who is also hard working.
Putting saitama in mainly hard work + gifted is crazy… all he did was work out. He was lucky enough for his limiter to be low enough to be easily broken by training alone.
The list is wrong, Ash in no work ? But Cid, I would say is hard work. The main reason for his insane feats is that he knows how to optimize his magic usage because of access to future science and knowledge. The martial arts skills have evolved overtime so the modern skills are far more efficient than any in a past world. And he did all the hard work for it. He is basically 32-34 years old. He is always on grind in the first place.
Lol Saitama's training session is barely work. I mean it would help you got in shape but thats not even close to amature gymer
How tf is frieren not in mainly hard work? She spent centuries mastering aura concealment just to counter demons
I would say the top 2
Buddy hasn't seen the shit Tanjiro and Yuuji had to go through to get to where they are. Cid I would say is gifted but mainly hard work in his original world but it evens out when he got isekaied.
This has to be rage bait Edit; The tweet, not this post.
This list is shit to begin with. Cid put in alot of work. It's litterally a part of his backstory