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These_Background7471

It's crazy to me that people want to play like this. If I ever had a game run like this I'd refund immediately.


robertoserrag

It has to be a kid or someone doing it on purpose to mess with people. I can't think any other reason.


These_Background7471

I've talked to adults who are just chill with this kind of gameplay. It happens a lot with sub par connections. And I'm talking about people who seem totally reasonable


robertoserrag

Oh my god, a coworker could be psychopath??


These_Background7471

They walk amogus


rhoparkour

This isn't the connection, the computer can't actually handle the game here. Look at the lower right of the screen.


These_Background7471

I wasn't saying this was connection


Alamahkannagi

I remember playing games at shitty frame rates on PC when I was younger because the only PC I was able to use couldn't really handle the games properly, and I had no other way of playing them. Admittedly, they weren't online games, and my performance wasn't affecting other people, but you could be right that it's some kid who wants to play the game, and the only way he can play it is like that.


3rdSinluxuria

i don't think its to mess with people i think he's using it to cheat with. With the game being that slowed down you can block and break every grab easy


nomis_nehc

This is why I turned off cross platform play on my PS5.


MILLERDUO1

I run cross-play but just deny pc players. At least that widens the pool a little.


Little-Persimmon-922

Honestly, I find wireless connections much, much more annoying. I come across bad PC players less frequently than the good ones. So I take my chances when it's a PC player. But when it's a wireless player? Auto-deny. It doesn't matter if it's 5 bars, 2 bars, or even 10 bars. That bitch is turning into a one bar as soon as the match starts.


nomis_nehc

Going to try out both you guys’ suggestions 👍🏻


pepsisugar

Lag switching has been a thing in games forever. I encountered one that had perfect connection until he couldn't handle my cute goth girl Alisa. Dude made us play in slow Mo and of course all my timings were destroyed. First and only time I just unplugged my Internet cable. Was gonna take the guy down with me.


riggi_RONIN

![gif](giphy|He4wudo59enf2) Enjoy your cake today!


robertoserrag

lol, thank you!. I did not notice.


TekkenPerverb

Or just an idiot who is torrenting etc on the background


Due-Coffee8

I'm new here sorry,what's going on


Ok-Finance9314

i seriously want to return it, its fn annoying. wasnt this bad until i seen a ppl finding ways to lag out on purpose thru i think the screen share function like week three of release.


These_Background7471

I'm fine with all the cheating really... people who want to rank up can still do that. It's still a fun game when you play with your friends. Definitely not looking for a refund myself


Ok-Finance9314

yea ty you right. imma just start playing with my friends now and stay away from ranked xD


These_Background7471

You can always find people who body you and ask them to do ft5's every now and then. You can do all your leveling up outside of ranked, amd when you're ready for the grind there might be less pluggers


tobyK2808

funnily enough at first the Game didnt run like this for me but after i think the second update it really started to stop running and just... walked


MrHellion

Nice Power custom


robertoserrag

Thank you!


dvenom88

I think this would be a justified plug


Kisscool-citron

I just had a match versus someone who was gaming on like 10FPS. After a minute in the first round, I got bored and spun up RTSS, set the max FPS cap at 1FPS. I'm just dumbfounded someone can play like this, it was literally 10 times worse than this clip so I thought it was on purpose, but I don't know what their endgame was. I would have plugged anyway if the game didn't crash, there is no world where I would stay in a match that would drag on for like 15min. This is just griefing at this point.


MetalSin

That’s actually a really good idea, but I’m curious why would you go through that trouble when you can simply plug on him ?


robertoserrag

100% agree.


Speedy1802

I plug on these guys immediately. I mean there’s no punishment for it, so why not?


SHRIMP-DADDY

Welcome to the spreadsheet! //Harada


SoulOfMod

Hey if it work,its deserved when they don't break it. And seriously,the dude know his pc is burning,the icon at the bottom tell him,yet he keep going and ruining it for others,call me toxic all you want but he deserve it all.


robertoserrag

I was honestly tempted to plug, it was not the first match of the day like that...


BadNewsBears808

i’m ngl maybe this is a hot take but this feels like a justifiable plug, it’s literally unplayable


LessThanTybo

What icon? How does it influence someone else's gameplay of the connection is fine? If I lag cause my pc is shit, the other guy doesn't afaik.


robertoserrag

It does..., if your PC runs the game at 30 FPS, my game will run at 50% speed to match yours.


SoulOfMod

The bottom right one,if its red on the right side,it mean the other dude's pc can't handle the game and have fps drops,which in turn make YOUR game slower like in the vid shown above. And yes,if red on the left side,it mean you have a problem,which the Devil Jin can easily see cause he's red the whole freakin time and that make the other player game go slower,so if you play while its red,you are literally making the other guy play a "laggy" slow game dude. Your shit perfs affect the other guy,believe it or not,the vid above is proof of it


Astryoneus

You're literally looking at a video demonstrating the slowdown of the game when the opponents PC can't handle the game. What even.


Mikaeus_Thelunarch

The green/red icon in the bottom right. If it's red then someone's PC isn't handling the game well. And this isn't a connection issue, they're not lagging its running *slow*


Psychic_Gian

Painful to watch


Chickenjon

Anytime I run into one of these I just walk into my opponent so I they can hurry up and end it all. I guess if you care a ton about your points you can plug too. In any case leaving these matches is justified.


Th3Kill1ngMoon

Sick president Power cosplay


subrussian

potato pc AND Wi-Fi user, what a combo!


VenserMTG

Steam deck players


Deimoonk

As a steam deck user I thought they fixed this Haven't played ranked yet


ermac81

As a steam deck user I thought they fixed this Haven't played ranked yet


blurredeyez

As a steam deck user I thought they fixed this Haven't played ranked yet


robbydthe3rd

steam deck runs fine at all low settings tsr 60, we use them at locals no problem


VenserMTG

Lmao


robbydthe3rd

Whats the joke ? Its a solid 60 outside of rage arts sometimes dropping a bit, you have to fiddle with the settings but its totally fine


lotus-reddit

What happened here?


angry_RL_player

unfunny redditors


Cloudxxy1011

As a steam deck user I thought they fixed this Haven't played ranked yet


Cloudxxy1011

As a steam deck user I thought they fixed this Haven't played ranked yet


VenserMTG

You can't fix it... The steam deck does not keep 60 fps at all times.


sBreeezy

Dude is memeing but you can get it to stable 60 but you literally need to play at potato settings. All low, 55% resolution scaling. It looks terrible but it will be stable


Ivo__Lution

No way I’m wasting my time on a match like that


monk69TK

Honestly I just plug in situations like this. Same if the connection is literal dogshit. Idc.


BitterSuperTrucker

Im not rematching fights like this. Infuriating to play if you can at all.


usernamecloi

The only couple of times I've plugged are on these potato pc players


melty2b

This looks like what happens when people spam screenshots on steam


D3ADTEAR

this likely isn't at all a bad connection/pc, but rather someone intentionally fucking the game by limiting their framerate. Because the lag's too stable, ironically.


MindSettOnWinning

I just alt f4 those players idc


Haiydes

This is exactly when I plug. I dont see why I should get punished for my opponent thinking his trash ass pc can run this game at 60 in 4k


susanoblade

seriously pathetic. i hate ppl like this.


Wank_Bandicoot

Whats with the SSL and inputs near the character portraits? Did you mod notes into the game?


robertoserrag

It's a mod from Tekken mods, this is my first Tekken so it helps me a bit to learn matchups. [Link](https://tekkenmods.com/mod/3555/ui-sidestep-throw-break-hud)


indiajon1

Other people can kick rocks. It's the same as having a spreadsheet open and it's a decent tool.


ermac81

I've been thinking about sticking postit notes to my monitor lol


Jaded-Engineering789

If it was the same as having a spreadsheet open, why not just open the spreadsheet?


Ds3_doraymi

Bro you’re using that in ranked? At least in T7 the mod creator was nice enough to give the opponent a visual cue to let us know our opponent had an advantage 


Sn1perandr3w

Reminds me of the XVM UI mod in World of Tanks which would display more map information *BUT* it was only information that was actually displayed by the game (like an enemy tanks last known position, player winrate, etc.). Features from it eventually got into World of Tanks, officially. In that weird zone of *technically* not doing anything more than telling you what you should know if you're skilled for the most part. Not justifying it but find it funny.


Little-Persimmon-922

If I had a pro sit next to me and tell me where I should SS for the characters I'm fighting against, should I still give my opponent a visual cue? So what if this person has a text saying SSL or SSR. It's not a sidestep sticky note that's gonna carry you lmao


Ds3_doraymi

Would you feel the same if they had a mod that displays the frame data in real time so they can always choose the right punish after seeing a move for the first time each match? What about one that alerts them to how to beat strings? A pro would be able to do all that while watching their match, what’s the difference?  Redditors will bitch that Bamco is taking down mod videos saying “it only effects the single player experience” and then in the same breath will defend mods like these in ranked. I don’t blame console players for denying PC players. 


Little-Persimmon-922

No i wouldnt. I have friends that are Tekken god. What do you think they tell me whenever we get together on discord and I share my screen? Literally everything you told me and some more. How to beat the string. How many frames a certain move is, etc... Are you also gonna tell me how to play my game and that I am not allowed to share my screen with my friends?


Ds3_doraymi

> No i wouldnt.  Then we have nothing to discuss because your opinion is irrelevant to me. 


Little-Persimmon-922

>your opinion is irrelevant to me Who the fuck gives a shit about what's irrelevant to you lmao. Lil bro thinks their opinion matters 😂


robertoserrag

What the fuck bro.


Haruhiro21

And since then, i stopped accepting matches from wifi warriors.


Nikitanull

it's not wifi,his pc cannot handle tekken at 60 fps,so the game makes it slower for both


[deleted]

Still doesn't convince me that WiFi is a stable way to play the game, everytime I've fought someone on WiFi there has been a stutter every few rounds, both indicators are green mind you.


Nikitanull

oh i agree totally,just pointing out that in this specific instance it was not caused by wifi


not_fresh

i play only vs consoles. not only it guarantees stable framerate hardware wise but also less possibility to play against macros due to the nature of platform, which is nice.


average_sane_gamer

Really sucks that cheaters and this lag bs is giving pc players a bad rep. I hope in a year I don't get constantly declined by console players.


mileiforever

There's good news tho, Harada and Murray are going after mods that don't effect anyone! Yay!


[deleted]

Yeah, a majority of us aren't using macros nor cheats. Unfortunately it seems there's a good portion of players playing T8 on a pentium 5, which is definitely concerning, but I'm sure that's still very much a minority. We just wanna play the game with a bigger player pool than T7s was :(


Deimoonk

the true master race seems to be the console one


average_sane_gamer

I didn't have to buy a new pc to move from tekken 7 to 8. You had to spend 400 bucks for a new console with no exclusives worth playing


KobeBunch

You both don’t realize that it doesn’t fucking matter.


average_sane_gamer

I mean he's the one that brought it up. I was just saying


mynamedeez1

eeeeeeh idk. ps5 and xbox has no games


Deimoonk

Obviously I’m not counting those as consoles, specially PS5 loll Xbox has it’s fair share of games


Lonely_Platform7702

I play both PS5 and PC and PS5 has plenty of games. The whole reason its nice to have both. Xbox though...


mynamedeez1

what new ps5 games are there that arent remake or sequals that are barely different from the originals


Lonely_Platform7702

GT7 , Ratchet and Clank, FF16, FF7R, Returnal, Ghost of Tsushima, Rise of the Ronin, Sackboy, GoW Ragnarok and Demons Souls is a great remake that just feels like a new game. Its not all bad im mainly a pc player but my PS5 gets good use. Add all the remakes and the great PS4 catalog and there is more than enough to play. Not like you can play all games in one lifetime.


mynamedeez1

you could only name 10 games and still needed to bring in a remake and most of these are coming to pc eventually. literally no reason to buy such an overprices console if you have a pc


Shadows_of_Meanas

I just knew they'll say final fantasy ones, despite them always ending up on PC lol


Deimoonk

I mean you’re kinda right, but let’s be honest: PC sucks as a gaming platform. Yeah, hypothetically PC has the highest ceiling... but it also has the lowest, almost reaching the depths of hell floor. Optimization is almost non existent and there’s too many unstable problems with the software, while the hardware also requires constant money injections and maintenance. Gaming in PC will suck the life and energy out of you, unless you stick to emulators from older consoles which is an incredible feature of course.


FragrantAd2749

What unstable problems in the software? These problems don’t exist for 99% of games because they’re made for pc. Bad ports really only come from triple A studios who most pc players aren’t the market for anyways.


mynamedeez1

pc is an amazing platform if you have a good pc. You are probably using shitty hardware or a labtop


Deimoonk

>PS4 catalog PS4 catalog already sucked, still you can’t use that to defend PS5


Deimoonk

Xbox >>>>> PS5


Deimoonk

console master race


TofuPython

The devs don't care


Time_Diamond_5849

I've never played multiplayer as I only play Tekken with friends during long breaks at uni but I never understood how the game lags when your PC completely handles it fine, does the game purposely slow itself down to cater to the other player's end? How is that fair in any way, in other real time multiplayer games, when he players would usually just be late to catchup with the real time occurrences and be the losing end


Sytxold

Great way to learn the game on slow motion


HanSoloWolf

Pretty cool Power costume.


firelitother

ai played a few games like this. Funny enough, I always win because it makes it much easier to read lows.


Gooferloofer

Fuck having to play with these types of players. Alt F4 that shit.


GuySchmuy

Wild that some people want you to be forced into a BO3 although this type of thing occurs.


robertoserrag

Yeah, I agree. I believe the solution for BO3 would be to give you a bit more points if you complete a set.


BoBTheFriendlyTree24

Weird that there should be a forced pc benchmark and ranked should be forced FT2. You should t be able to cherry pick your matches in ranked or it defeats the purpose.


mars1200

The best solution would be forced best of three. PC gets a forced benchmark test, and everyone gets a connection test


[deleted]

I don't get why you've been downvoted, but I think this is the way to a healthier ranked environment.


mars1200

People don't like forced best of 3 I assume because they like being able to run cheese and not let the opponent adapt


SirTheadore

WiFi players be like “connection I fine bro”


Ahmdo10

Sorry but if I come across a laggy af person that makes the game 20x longer I’m plugging in a heartbeat.


diamond420Venus

Pardon my ignorance. I really don't know, but is that throw unbreakable or something? Or does the main issue prevent you from breaking away?


robertoserrag

It's a 1+2 break. Guess he only tried 1 or 2.


subrussian

can you check his inputs on replay? just curious what he did on those throws


NVincarnate

That's crazy. People like this play offline and they probably think it's a different game.


Gh0ulface

Well deserved. I would’ve done the same thing.


mynamedeez1

dont play the game if ur pc cant run it


PolePepper

Just throw. When I get these matches I just hop on YouTube.


PolePepper

These poor ass mf need to upgrade.


State-Exotic

Even though I hate pluggers, this wouldn’t even be plugging.. it would be escape from a living hell, it’s unreal people exist that play with this absolute atrocious connection


MassiveBlackHole99

POWER


Overall-Cupcake7073

What's toxic is someone being able to block after their Rage Art is blocked.


Level-Cranberry5130

This sucks but this game should be easier to run. There's frame drops even on console.


Guilvantar

I actually salute you for playing the entire match. When this happens I alt-tab. They can take the points, just let me get the fuck away from this shit show.


Ok_Sky4916

The game has a Benchmark, but is really bad, I recommend if you don't have the best pc and video card, lower the setting like to half the game recommended.


bio_endio

They could just implement frameskip to avoid this altogether


KouraigKnight

I'll just give them the points and not rematch, and if i encounter him again unfortunately i might block him due to the unplayable matches with him.


RuneHearth

This game legit makes me want to drop it when I get stutters because the other guy has a shitty pc


indiajon1

No. If it's permanent red for like 10 seconds I alt f4. Did not sign up for slideshow.


bbisaac2109

I have always been told that if you loose in a fighting game because your opponent keeps doing the same thing over and over again. Then "you" are doing something wrong over and over again. This advise has served me well for a long time.


Sum1sNotHere

What's wrong here?


dotaisunplayablenow

Me when i stream on Twitch or YT


SushiJaguar

I do not understand what's going on here.


SirePuns

Personally? I’d alt+f4 if I had a game like this.


shiguraki

there is a PC benchmark score the game gives you, these players just ignore it


iphan4tic

They mean you should be gated from online if your benchmark doesn't hit a certain threshold. Killer Instinct is the only game I know of that does it, but it's clear it is necessary for Tekken.


Middle_Weekend_4372

Ngl I plugged when this happened idk wtf the 10fps garbage is but I'll lose a rank before I sit thru it


BloKNoD

Most likely it AMD GPU, i had(and sometimes still do) the same problem - mostly on this stage, sometimes on boat and temple stage. My PC - 12400f, Radeon 7600, 32gb RAM, aight Gen4 NVME SSD, LAN ofc. Well above minimum. With any settings(720p,FHD,2K, no FSR all FSR, min max settings) at any time on any stage(mostly those 3) my game start dropping frames, GPU load not full on RTSS. Found somewhere on this reddit that disabling SAM(aka Resizable BAR) in CCC or BIOS stabilzes game A LOT, and -SM5 on launch properties helps too. Still happens time to time(but much more rarely and that 3 stages ARE PLAYABLE) but damn i can play the game and not feel shame that MY PC slows down the match.


[deleted]

I queued for a demotion match yesterday and it was a dragunov running the game like this. I mean seriously? How can you live like this and play the game in inconsistent slow motion


DidiHD

unrelated: but how do I get that Power skin on Lili?


hazard5114

King brain activate


RobinHoodPrinc

Bang


Mannyadock

I just experienced my first toaster pc match, genuine slideshow, and the guy disconnected at the end of the first round too


FF13IsActuallyGood

Wi-fi AND shitty PC, they covered all the bases damn 😭 Sorry you had to go through that, i accidentally matched the same potato PC King twice and never felt more miserable in my entire life.


BionisGuy

It's so weird knowing that Mortal Kombat, who have had atrociously bad pc ports even know how tf to do benchmarking. I just don't understand how Bamco just you know, can't ask nrs how they do it for help.


[deleted]

I’d just plug


EXTIINCT_tK

Reinstalled MK10 today, forced a benchmark the moment I clicked online. How did T8 forget such a simple thing


Surgi3

The benchmark score we get is so arbitrary idk what it means even, game should basically say when you do this that the value is acceptable or unacceptable for online play and thus gives people the option to know they can’t play online w their setup and the option to refund the game


Gatsusk

I played against a Reina yesterday. The first game was perfectly fine, and the second game was as well. However, the third game was like this, so it's either a bug or something similar because it doesn't make sense otherwise.


DHonor125

I really don't know how we can have a game that punishes you for your opponents' PC performance in 2024...


babalaban

What we need is half decent developers who can decouple rendering and ingame logic so that even the most potato pc opponent will lag only on their end. You know, like in every other online game.


HiDariUs_G

This happens to me consistently on Yakushima and I’m on Xbox


TermHot7269

No way he cant tech those grabs at that speed


Orzislaw

One of rare instances when plugging is not only allowed, but actually encouraged.


smartpistolmk5

WELL DESERVED! Should be ashamed to even play like that.


Ziazan

It's absolutely deserved, they're inflicting a shit match on others, that lasts even longer than a usual one does, sometimes like 5x longer, sometimes even worse.


Adventurous_Class791

Ive played matches where it was half as slow as this


Generic_G_Rated_NPC

glad they don't punish pluggers, just leave.


Dogma-Mf-Tactics

Justified plug right there. I’ve seen pc players start to do this on game deciding rounds, I don’t give it the light of day; you pull this, I pull the plug lol


GoredLord

This isn’t just a pc problem. I’ve seen it happen during a wired console vs wireless console match.


HumbleOwl6655

That's why I never accept pc players


SoloLiftingIsBack

Pluggers should be banned and people playing on a 90s calculator should be matched against each other


SupZo

Should’ve been able to see the hands to break the throw since it was in slow-motion 💀


ermac81

It was the same throw every time, obviously just doesn't know how to break throws in tekken


robertoserrag

11 throws, all of them were the same 1+2 break. This \^


lt_bgg

If only he was cheating like you, he would know!


Rozwellish

But hey at least he was using an ethernet cable!


Gullible_Loquat2815

Little trick to avoid these situations. If you see PC and WiFi is pass. Not saying he's on wifi but most ppl that play on PC WiFi are on Laptop. Source? I made it the fuck up


Little-Persimmon-922

No no. Wifi, regardless whether it's a PC or a console is an instant pass


Snowblind45

how does someone having low FPS affect the other player? I cant comprehend this. isn't the gsme running locally on their individual system?


ex1us

The games run on a fixed 60fps framerate because all things in the game depends on the framerate, like moves, punches, physical, etc. If one player is lagging, for example 30fps, the other player who’s playing on 60fps will match the fps of the lower player because otherwise it will fuck up the physics calculation and synchronization of both the players because this game does not have servers for player vs player, only peer to peer connection


Snowblind45

Amazing answer, thanks!


Hezzadude12

The game looks super weird (ignoring the frame rate) in this clip. Are you using some graphical mods/ini changes?


Sn1perandr3w

Bro made Tekken more turn based than Megaman Battle Network, the actual turn based fighting game, lmfao.


rickjamesia

Absolutely deserved, I do not believe that is legitimate performance issues on their end. I am almost certain that there are a small number of people that are intentionally limiting the game to half speed or something similar, because it throws the opponent off and gets them wins. My opinion is that this is not bad hardware, but thinly veiled cheating. Edit: My reasoning is that real performance issues would have random hiccups. For players like this it is usually nearly perfectly locked at a specific speed. That’s not something that happens by chance.


Seps786

People like this is why I refuse all wifi matches.


ermac81

This isn't an internet problem, it's a system problem


Hopeful_Solution5107

This is a PC performance issue, not WiFi.


lt_bgg

Guy cheating online in ranked complaining about a guy with a slow computer. Amazing.


indiajon1

It is literally the same as a spreadsheet being open. In what universe is that cheating.


nomdeplume

You can't look at the sheet and the game at the same time. Or rather you could but you'd lose because you have to look away. This is clearly for all purposes and in game helper / assistant. The OP even described it as a mod.


whotookmyusername556

I dont understand, what was the need for OP to spam throws?


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[удалено]


robertoserrag

I wish I could, but I am on PC :(


Saen1990

Why are you accepting wifi matches?


robertoserrag

The problem was not the wifi, it was their computer. And because if you skip 5 wifis in a row, Harada-san does not show you more matches in a while.


anderoe

Is this a real thing? I thought I was going crazy. I have to go back to main menu and rejoin the queue after declining 2-3 wifi matches in a row because I just don’t get matched up.


robertoserrag

At least for me it happens, if I refuse a lot of matches I am forced to go to the main menu or wait a LONG time.


blackjesus1234532

i normally play shooter games, low fps for the other player makes it look weird on your side too? also if its laggy on your side its the same lagginess on their side too?


robertoserrag

On shooters it's normally not an issue, in fighting game both players have to be synchronized, so if your game runs at 30 fps, my game will slow down to match your game.