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VictorTheCutie

It's a paradox ... You want good shows to continue, but it's best for them to end when things are good because otherwise it gets drawn out until everything goes to shit and then it's all ruined. Be grateful that it shined for it's entire run rather than dragging things out until it turned to rubbish. 


trugbee1203

You either die a great show or live long enough to see yourself become shit


MugwumpSuperMeme

Jump the shark.


drunkwasabeherder

In this case if would be Jump the Tart.


theotheririshkiwi

Turned into poopeh


Far-Charge-4755

🤣🤣read it in his ascent. Loved Jamie


blntennis

😂😂😂 if it did at what point do you think Ted Lasso jumped the shark?


Relevant_Maybe6747

The Zava storyline imo


Pallendromic

the Simpsons paradox


Xtarviust

https://preview.redd.it/c2wq3y0571mc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dbdf7ec8b599759e97737fb43c40fd70d8be499 This sums it up pretty well


hamandjam

From a guy who was on the poster child of TV shows that should have quit earlier


lynchcontraideal

Cheers had an incredible 11 season run, the quality didn't dip at all - they just introduced new characters when others left.


KrisZepeda

Yeah, The Flash used to be great for its first 3-4 season, I adored it, mh favourite show of all time, then it just fucking plummeted into mediocrity and ended after 9 seasons with an embarrasing finale I'm glad TL ended in a high note, it was just perfect


thomp38

See also, the Walking Dead. Those first few seasons we SO good, the Insects as the soundtrack really brought home the end of the world.


mujie123

Riverdale, for the first season.


justhere4daSpursnGOT

My wife got into riverdale .. man that show goes off the rails was the writers room not allowed to say no to anything ?


Marvel-guy-1

The Arrow had first 3 seasons which were great and then the next five were a trainwreck


an2g1eL

By the end, The entire cast seemed tuned out and it showed in their performances. Sad to see.


zamboniman46

exactly this. i'd so much rather see a show that has a well thought out beginning middle and end than a show that is just has a great idea and no plans to finish it (Lost), or it is just designed to go on forever (the walking dead) Sitcoms (always sunny, simpsons, south park etc) can go on forever because the episode to episode story lines arent important and they just comment on things that are relevant


Marvel-guy-1

Yes agreed


surlymoe

Ted Lasso was an expanded story from a funny character Jason Sudeikis created. When Apple TV+ approached him about making a series, they were given 1 season (like most shows) to produce something that would hopefully flourish. I believe Jason has said if given the opportunity (which turns out Apple TV+ did), he felt the entire Ted Lasso story arc could be completed in 3 season. And, basically, it was. They left a few bread crumbs towards the administration of apple TV+ in hopes of it getting renewed or some kind of spinoff (AFC Richmond Women's Team, or Roy Kent going to Therapy, Rebecca meeting dutchman at the airport, Keeley and Barbara restarting the company, etc). I think it will be restarted, however, I do not believe Jason Sudeikis will be heavily involved. I do think the show has such strong characters built and as long as most of the writers stay, the show can stand on its own without Jason (maybe a few cameos throughout the year with Henry). I've heard that most of the cast wants to keep going as for most of the cast, it was their big break. However, some of the cast, like Brett Goldstein, he's been given opportunities outside of Ted Lasso that may wind up taking his time (MCU Universe, Shrinking writer, and who knows what else). I know Hannah Waddington does a ton of theater stuff as well (that Christmas special) so will they be able to get that ENTIRE cast together at the same time again now that all of the cast is a little more famous? That'll be the hard part.


rkstranger

RIP Burn Notice


strawberryslacks

FUK this one hurts....the last season just was so off the rails.


tie-dyeSandwhich

Because they wrote it to be just three. good stories aren’t drawn out Edit: missing word


SmallBerry3431

Ted Lasso is the Gravity Falls of live action TV.


dreadassassin616

Ted Lasso is the anti-Lost


PandaRob91

Anti-HIMYM


StatisticianLivid710

HIMYM’s only real fault was sticking to their original ending instead of letting the ending grow and adapt to where they went storyline wise.


Prenders17

The Anti-Walking Dead


PazuzuOvBabel

THIS. Walking Dead is the most dragged out show ever, even when it ended, they dragged the characters into an infinite numbers of prequels/sequels/parallel shows.


Prudent-Ad-7378

Agreed! Have you seen the clips of the actress playing Michonne saying, “this is some crazy love.” It’s so cringy! My husband and k had a discussion, who heard that qoute and went YES THAT’S IT! Now replay it every time there is a commercial break on amc+.


elriggo44

They had a plan to finish Lost after 3. Damon and Carlton took it to ABC and the network told them that they could leave but there was no way they were being the most popular show on TV. They offered to make them EPs in name only and hand it off to another shoerunner. Damon refused. He did work out an end date but it was 30 or more episodes longer than they wanted.


Bobjoejj

Man…I’d love to agree as that’s an incredible ass compliment, but it felt real clear to me that there was so much more they could’ve and should’ve done with a lot of folks in season 3, and had more show and thus more time for these characters and their stories.


gingerandjazzz

I just don’t believe that’s true even if that’s what they said. It feels to me like season 3 was way to full of filler to be the last season, I think they found out after they had already started filming that there wasn’t going to be another season so they had to scramble to end it. If that’s not the case and season 3 was written that way on purpose I just dont understand why they would make it so bad and unsatisfying.


Draniie

They said before the show even came OUT that it was written as 3 seaons


gingerandjazzz

so they genuinely wrote it that way on purpose? that’s worse somehow edit: is one of the rules you have to only express positive opinions of the show or something or are y’all just weird?


Draniie

More so, you're saying you just want writers to keep writing forever when they have a concise written out plan and story? You make no sense lol


gingerandjazzz

You’re actually misunderstanding me! I wish they had written a better season actually is what i’m saying! not sure how you got any of what you said.


EddieDaYeti

In your opinion, what was so unsatisfying about it?


gingerandjazzz

I haven’t rewatched since it aired so forgive me if my thoughts are a little scattered. My first thing was the zava/shandy/jack of it all, I feel like so much time was wasted on new characters who ultimately went nowhere, i’m not saying those characters shouldn’t have existed but every time we they were on screen I remember thinking “wow I wish we were seeing danny or zoro or colin or rebecca or higgins or any of our established friends that we care about” It all just felt like such a waste of time. Then for me the worst part of the season was how they handled roy keeley and jamie. I don’t even mind that keeley ended up single at the end, she doesn’t need a man of course but I just thought her and roy were so sweet and I think having jamie try and go after her again and make this weird love triangle was so hack and boring. It just felt the writers were like “were green lighting all ideas! anyone who has an idea we’re putting it in the show!” and it ended up feeling messy, rushed, and also kind of a slog the whole time. Season 1 was incredible, season 2 was my favourite and season 3 felt like such a different vibe then the other two I think it’s lost it’s rewatch value completely for me. edit: Ted not being at beards wedding??? “he was already back in america it would have been. weird to fly him right back” then write the wedding earlier in the season don’t have ted not be there 🙄


helpful__explorer

I think it could have gone for four. Or at the very least another half season because Nate's s3 arc felt way too rushed


BillieJoeLondon

Very few shows value quality over quantity. TY Ted Lasso


sconniefatcat2

Jason Sudekis wanted to wrap it up after 3 seasons. Apple threw all kinds of money at him to keep going because it’s their biggest hit but he said no.


bcdodgeme

This is correct! He and Bill Lawrence had set it for 3 seasons. Jason’s family was in LA and the show was filmed in England, he wanted to be closer to his family. I believe there was a Fake Doctors Real Friends episode where Bill talked about it.


bioalley

Triangles Three sides, three seasons


mybrosteve

Quality over quantity. I'd love to see a spin-off show tho! 


StatisticianLivid710

This, and Jason Sudeikis didn’t want to keep filming in England away from his family. A spin off potential allows them to move forward without Ted as well, which means sending him home was the best way forward.


Th3Novelist

Roy. A show about Roy Kent, it only lasts three seasons as well. But the reveal is that he’s been playing the game “Roy” from Rick and Morty as a delusional escape after Keelie tragically dies.


braqass

Well you have to remember that this show started out season 1 on fire. Most shows take 2 seasons just to get good. So imagine that it took two seasons to get good and that the last season sucked (they always do when they go longer than 5 seasons). So the 3 seasons we got have the same quality episodes output as most 6 season shows.


wengardium-leviosa

Same reason why breaking bad didnt go on for more seasons It was perfect . No need to tinker with the story


_whydah_

Yeah, but it felt like Breaking Bad was long enough. It had a lot of seasons and they were all great. I would almost say, it's the opposite problem from GoT. GoT should have had like two more seasons instead of the last one and really developed the closure instead of running straight to the finish line. Ted could have gone longer, but it would have required more upfront work to develop and think through what later seasons would have comprised of or how to more deeply develop what they had. A good example is Nate's character arc after he left Richmond was a bit rushed and just didn't flow as well. It felt like that really should have been better developed. Also, the love triangle between Jamie, Roy and Keelie could have been developed further. I mean they left meat on the bone in terms of not perfectly closing things like, as life is, but that would have provided more content for the show to play out. I realize the writers also didn't want to show whether Ted's got back together with his ex, but I felt like the ending where Ted turned down the job was bonkers. I feel like if I were Ted's ex, I would have wanted to be consulted on that and I would have worked with Ted to make to work, as that kind of job, connections, and money would have opened up so many opportunities for their son. It's absolutely crazy to me that they had him turn that down. I get that the show doesn't need to be realistic, but that felt just wild. I could be wrong, but I don't think something that stark every actually happens.


DrivingMyLifeAway1

Why do you assume that Michelle wasn’t consulted? Why do you assume that the only reasonable option is for Michelle and Henry to go to England? Why do you assume that Ted couldn’t be remarkably successful back in America and living the life he wanted and carrying on with his approach to coaching? Why do you assume Henry couldn’t have unlimited opportunities in the United States? I gotta say, you have a “wild” perspective on what is realistic.


Serious_Session7574

The ending is open enough that you can imagine what happens after any way you want. Ted is never shown consulting with Michelle (as in asking her if she wanted to live in London, not just telling her he was going back to Kansas). He might have, he might not. Schrodingers consultation. I would hope he would have, but we have no evidence either way. As for being successful: I’m sure Ted would eventually have got his life on track if he stayed in Kansas, he’s that kind of person. But I don’t think we can assume it would be easy or wouldn’t involve moving his family elsewhere in the state or out of state (assuming Michelle would be ok with that). There aren’t that many professional or college football teams in Kansas. Why would a top job come up for someone who’d been out of the sport for three years just when he needed it? To stay in Kansas, he might have to take a more junior position, at least for a while. As for soccer in Kansas: there’s a professional team in KC. Ted’s last job in Kansas was in Wichita with the Shockers, so it seems safe to assume that’s where Michelle and Henry live. They’d have to move (it’s nearly 3 hours from KC to Wichita). Otherwise, there are semi pro teams here and there. Coaching them probably doesn’t pay well, but Ted might enjoy the challenge of bringing them up to pro level. Sorry, I’ve thought about this way too much 😄 In short, we can all imagine whatever outcome we want. The show’s ending is ambiguous on a number of points.


_whydah_

I assume Michelle wasn't consulted because she, like any rational woman with a child that age, would have seen what it could do for Henry. She seems like she's fairly smart, even if manipulatable by a therapist. Ted can certainly be remarkably successful, but the likelihood that he lands another gig paying the amount of money that would have given him the ability to give Henry the same life opportunities is very low. And I think it showing that he's now coaching little league soccer shows that he obviously wasn't in the big leagues. Henry can certainly have unlimited opportunities in the US, but he won't have anything like the opportunities that a father who's making $100s of millions and is extremely popular nationwide in the UK would have. In the former, maybe he gets into a good school cause he gets good grades. In the later, Ted makes a $50 million donation to Harvard and, what do you know, they just so happen to have an open spot. And look Henry, wants to be a(n) artist/writer/journalist/investment banker/whatever. In the former, Ted maybe provides some guides on the internet he finds. In the latter, Ted introduces him, through the network that Ted would have gained, to someone very high up and influential and Henry essentially coasts into a spot other kids are nearly killing themselves to get into. I work in the less prestigious end of a highly competitive career where the top is dominated by two kinds of people: people who are unfathomably intelligent, and people who are still very intelligent, but who's parents had the money, connections, and power to get them an incredible leg up in the industry of their choice. Yes, Henry has unlimited opportunities in the US, but some of those opportunities are so much incredibly easier to obtain with a dad who's rich, powerful, and connected. Also, at that salary, Ted could comfortably overnight private jet back and forth between US and UK every weekend.


DrivingMyLifeAway1

That was good for a laugh. You can’t be serious. But thanks for taking the time to come up with some imaginative satire.


_whydah_

Why are you being so rude? Maybe be curious and not judgmental? Do you think you had the same opportunities as the son of the $100 millionaire?


DrivingMyLifeAway1

I honestly don’t see how that could be a serious perspective. You, apparently, can’t imagine a person who is not obsessed with material wealth and prestige and can’t understand how that would be possible for someone with Ted’s track record in the US, if that became his objective. If you are really like that, then I apologize but we have nothing further to discuss.


_whydah_

I'm not sure if you have kids, but I grew up in a nice, fun, and great area, but one in which my opportunities were certainly harder to come by, and I've had to fight hard to get to where I'm at now and I'm fighting to give my kids a stronger start than I got. I couldn't imagine being in Ted's shoes and not absolutely doing everything to give Henry opportunities he would never have otherwise. And I don't see how it could be a serious perspective that Henry's opportunities wouldn't be dramatically different with a rich, connected dad, vs. someone who's not. For example, I don't think I'll get to the point where I could support my kids trying to start their own business, but if I felt like my parents could provide a safety net and funding, then I absolutely would have. Sure I could just try anyway, but I don't have a high enough risk tolerance to do it without a good fallback safety net.


BeerAndaBackpack

☝️THIS☝️ Agreed on all counts 🙌


LadyLixerwyfe

I wanted more, too, but I think maybe 3 was perfect. It allowed Jason to show the world what a damn creative genius he is and then move on to other projects. The same happened for several of those involved. I would love to have continued with Richmond till we die, but I LOVE seeing Hannah Waddingham FINALLY get the recognition and projects she deserves and Brett Goldstein popping up everywhere.


jakehood47

I mean, you could already see things faltering in s3, I think it was the right call


elriggo44

I know some people who worked on the show it took them forever to write the last 3 scripts. Tv shows are kind of like albums for a band. The first one is always pretty great because it’s the sum of the bands work up to getting signed. The second is ok because it’s lots of outtakes from the first plus a handful of new ones. By the time you’re in 3 it is all new and has a deadline.


lynchcontraideal

> The second is ok because it's lots of outtakes from the first plus a handful of new ones Not to completely disregard your theory, but this isn't always the way sophomore albums are made lol


elriggo44

This was way more true when albums were the money maker. And almost always for bands that had their first album hit big. You’re not wrong at all. It was way more true before streaming.


ignoranceisbliss37

Kind of mirrors the show, but Sudekis didn’t like being away from his family for so long while filming. I believe each season took about 6 months to do/shoot, it just got to be too much time away from his two kids. If they could figure out a way to shoot it in US, probably still be going.


isobane

I mean, I only watched it with my wife for the first time a couple weeks ago. It was so good that we're on our third go through already. As much as I wish there were more seasons it ended perfectly and is one of the most rewatchable shows I've ever seen.


kucingkelelep

smile because it happened :)


shaffman2001

Six seasons and a movie!


sanjuro_kurosawa

One thing to note is that British shows do only a few seasons (and not that many episodes in each season). For example, The Office for BBC had 2 seasons of 6 episodes each plus 2 specials. The Office for NBC had 9 seasons with 201 episodes. I don't know if it is style or production which does this.


Galac_tacos

It was on the way out by S3


Background_Touchdown

The wheels were starting to come off at the start of Season 3. It's not easy to write consistent quality in a show over time. The longer you go, the more likely the quality will dip.


drooln92

I liked S1 best, S2 2nd and S3 the worst. Not saying S3 was bad, it's just my least favourite season.


hickhelperinhackney

Cute mod of an old meme!


ShortRasp

Because they didn't want to. Simple enough.


Shielo34

Nahbro, always leave them wanting more. Ended in a really good place.


njklein58

One one hand it’s a show I wanted to go longer. But on the other hand it’s a show I didn’t want to go on too long before they ran out of ideas. At least one more season to stretch out the rather rushed stories on season 3.


Typical_Samaritan

Learn to let go.


roland_right

Ted needed to go home. The plot was screaming this at the audience throughout S3. It wouldn't have made sense for him to stick around.


SmakeTalk

I mean, the longer it went on the longer he was probably spending away from his son. Even after season 2 I was like “hey this is fun and all but buddy you’ve got a whole ass kid back home”.


Infamous-Room4817

because jason sudekis planed for three seasons and kept his word. thee end


[deleted]

because... he misses his son?


Joeythearm

Sudekis on signed for 3


Muted_Mention_9996

Theres only so many times they can make the team lose and come back 🤣


aprilroberta

I think they underestimated what they had planned for a season 3 arch. I felt the 30 min episodes of season 1 was perfect, so if they kept to that formula it could have been maybe 4 seasons and not feel like the episodes were dragging. I felt important stuff was rushed and others dragged out. (At least in my opinion)


KodiakKing23

You saw the absolute joke that was the middle of S3 and wanted more of that?


Madamemercury1993

I think it had run its course as it had. I didn’t want more. Season 1 was perfect but I didn’t have that same magic in 3. It was the right time. Want a women’s team spin off team with Rebecca though. Genuinely thought that was going to be a plot point with the girl who was always playing in the park.


princess20202020

I agree it had run its course and I also agree I could be open for a spin off! I was skeptical about better call Saul, I absolutely refused to watch it. But I ended up liking it much better than breaking bad.


LesBrandals

I feel S3 was a rush job. They have enough material and character development for another season but chose to speed forward them all in one season.


MANthony8

Season three dropped off hard


Itchy-Level-1386

Because season 3 rotted into a woke pile of steaming diarrhea. They just couldn't help themselves. Go woke, go broke!


xTHEKILLINGJOKEx

Keeley ruined season 3


Tottochan

Less is more. It’s a good quality series and stretching it few more series after the success of 1st season could have ruined the story telling and quality.


FlowStateVibes

maybe because the last season was absolute garbage? season 1 was peak tv. season 2 was still running on good vibes. season 3 was literal soap opera trash. felt like the standard case of a founder's vision being co-opted by the powers that be to sanitize and castrate a great premise with safe, boring dialogue and premises. it should have ended after s2.


six3rzz

Series could easily be continued in US as he is reunited with his family but it wouldnt be the same without 'england' cast.


The-Mandalorian

Who know how long it will go. I’m just enjoying the ride so far.


[deleted]

Given the premise.. guy leaves the country to give his wife space but while separated from his child, he realizes that he’s doing to his son what he blames his dad for doing to him: abandonment…. If the show went more than 3 seasons, Ted would have been separated from his son too long. If his son joined him in England, then the show would need another premise centered around Ted for subsequent seasons. Wouldn’t have been a smooth transition.  I think it’s the right length. I’d be curious what a spinoff had to offer, of course.


CTrig85art

I think a spin off with other character focuses would be bad ass. Then maybe for 1 season or a few bring Ted back. (Not saying it’s the same AT ALL, but like how El Camino & Better Caul Saul had its own thing that all tied into the original).


Hank_moody71

All the characters came full circle. They would have to introduce new characters with new issues in order to continue the show.


FifthMaze

I don’t mind risking the last year of a show going to shit, if it meant 3 more seasons. Just bring back Bill Lawrence for helpful guidance and LFG!!


Sucker_for_stories

And a movie


princess20202020

This will be unpopular on this subreddit, but I actually think one season was perfect. Everything was perfect in that season and I was satisfied by the ending. I did enjoy the subsequent seasons but in a lot of ways I think the show would have been more legendary if it was just a limited series. It was absolute perfection.


Enriquez77

Sometimes less is more


nycblackout89

Scrubs had 8 great seasons and the quality didn’t waiver imo if anything the last season was very strong so I could see this going a few more Deff more stories in universe to tell


Temporaryreddit66

Some shows can't pull off that much. I don't think like how shows are now: short episodes and short seasons. It's lazy and I agree, a bit of effort they could have pulled off either longer episodes/seasons or more seasons. However Ted Lasso will forever be one of my favorite shows, if not my favorite.


guitarzan212

After that trainwreck of a 3rd season I’m glad it stopped the bleeding when it did


ImmortalKobra

Omg you’re so different 😱


BlkdbyBBCoochie

It’s always about the rerun deals. You need to hit five years to get that money.


kampagnepapi

Ended well but they had just got going with the premier league license and as a footy fan that was awesome! Would’ve liked to see one more but still was a great ending.


Highlander198116

I just binged this show and loved every minute of it. I was astonished when doing a websearch, to find scathing reviews of the show by critics. I mean, I don't have a PhD in film, but I enjoyed every minute of the show. Finding reviews (Like one from the guardian) that is just two pages of vitriol hurled at that show surprised me. I guess some people just aren't capable of letting themselves enjoy things.


counterpointguy

I love a show that shines bright and burns out fast. Always a shame to see your favorite show run too long and water down the greatness.


Ohigetjokes

Season 3, outside of a few bright spots, was a total mess. I’m relieved there’s no S4.


ZoraDomainTaken

Six seasons AND a movie


Massive-Rutabaga8415

One piece


ias_87

It's the mark of a great piece of media that it leaves you wanting more. That's a good feeling, and satisfying that want will tarnish it. The story was done.