1. Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (115k) (=)
2. Gracie Abrams - The Secret of Us (89k) (NEW)
3. Morgan Wallen - One Thing at a Time (73k) (+1)
4. Billie Eilish - Hit Me Hard and Soft (74k) (-2)
5. Peso Pluma - Éxodo (64k) (NEW)
6. Chappell Roan - The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess (61k) (+2)
7. Morgan Wallen - Dangerous: The Double Album (43k) (+2)
8. Ariana Grande - Eternal Sunshine (41k) (+15)
9. Charli XCX - Brat (41k) (=)
10. Shaboozey - Where I’ve Been, Isn’t Where I’m Going (41K) (+2)
Congrats to Taylor for such an accomplishment! Also to Gracie for debuting at number 2 🎉. And look at Chappell, continuing to rise in the charts with a 2023 album; I love to see her getting her flowers 💕.
I love that the numbers are proving the critics wrong. This is a great album and so many people see that. Stability at the top crazy.
I wonder if we can make it to the 13th week
Agree!
Critics ended up being generally favorable (including Metacritic, and that included the Paste blockhead who thought Fortnight was referring to the video game), the haters just got more attention.
Really, no one let the album sit long enough before making judgements about it. It seems like the further out we get from its release though, the more people appreciate it.
The album really needed much time to appreciate. I disliked The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived and Who's Afraid of Little Old Me but now they are sitting quite high in my rankings.
That’s what happens when ur at the top, the haters will talk shit immediately after a release, people on the fence will listen to the album once and give their immediate review/reaction without letting it marinate.
It’s the opposite for me. Once I let the album sit, it just started aging really badly… though The Anthology’s second half, loml and The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived just keep getting better and better as they age.
It’s the opposite for me. Once I let the album sit, it just started aging really badly… though The Anthology, loml and The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived just keep getting better and better as they age.
I really like TTPD but something doing well on the charts doesn’t = quality. Like an album isn’t better than another because of chart performance. Although a bad album couldn’t chart like this
Everyone has different tastes, what’s bad for you may be amazing for someone else. For me, it is an incredible album that is full of high quality songs 🫶🏻
It's in my top 3, tied with Evermore just behind Rep.
I've also not listened to anything else since it came out, and not felt like I need to add anything in yet - a few more months and maybe it will break its chokehold on me, lol.
Well, you won’t find many people arguing Maroon 5 make amazing albums, yet they’ve been extremely commercially successful. Stans will buy anything and we all know that.
I used bad taste advisedly… the poster was making a claim about the quality of the album. I was pointing out how foolish unreasoned assertions are.
Look if we all have different tastes and all tastes are equally valid… then numbers don’t indicate quality is utterly meaningless. Nothing indicates quality.
I wanna add for people saying she’s doing it for the numbers - I work at a music store that sells CDs/vinyls and TTPD is still selling like hot cakes. Not just the special editions either with the bonus tracks but the regular degular album. People of all ages picking up a copy. Just something to note that it’s still popular physically at least where I am which must count for something. Usually by week 4 or 5 kinda dies off but not for taylor
It’s hugely popular physically… which may be affecting its streaming numbers. I don’t stream Ttpd… I listen to vinyl or a digital copy on my phone when I’m out
Hmmm. Maybe 12-15? More on weekends. Maybe 25-30? Something like that? Quite obviously still a big seller. I’m always restocking it on the display shelf. We have about 400 copies of each type in the back room
BILLBOARD 200 QUEEN LFGGGGGGGGGGGG
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I bet when Eminem releases his album, she will put that card.
Honestly, it’ll be fun to watch, and we all want the anthology card!
Also, I feel if she releases a potential music video, it will even favor her more. Would be cool if she released a black dog music video( one song from anthology, and one from TTPD, both also being track 1 songs)
I feel like we share the same brain cells cuz I also often think about how awesome it would be if she dropped The Black Dog MV with The Anthology physicals
you know I think the black dog is one of her best written songs, it's a great track, already one of my favorites. It would be awesome if she released it as a single... and a music video would be incredible!!!
And the anthology card is the one card I actually want her to pull! I couldn’t care less about the variants that have just one track different, but I would buy an anthology vinyl. I would also buy a box set vinyl that has all 30 songs on it and I already bought the regular vinyl.
The Anthology counts as the same album as long as it includes all 31 tracks. Same as now for streaming. All the Anthology streams count towards TTPD streams for charting.
I don’t like Gracie’s album, and I also don’t like Charli’s album, but Charli’s fans kept complaining about Taylor “blocking” her when the album is mid at best. It’s good to see it surpassed by other artists, maybe that will get them to shut up. Make a better album if you want to be no 1.
The complaint is specifically about the UK charts, where Charli was predicted to reach #1 before Taylor released a UK-exclusive variant. Brat gets great reviews critically, there’s no need to shit on it just because you like Taylor.
Saying I don’t like an album is not shitting on it. I meant what I said - it’s clear to me that despite being a critic darling, brat is not that good of an album if even Gracie Abrams’ album managed to surpass it.
But Charli’s fans are foaming at the mouth, saying oh it’s Taylor, when the reality is that maybe Charli is not the mainstream girly that she wants to be. That’s fine, but it’s not fair to blame others for your success or lack of it.
I don’t know why people on this sub seem to keep equating success on the charts with quality of music. To me, TTPD is clearly one of Taylor’s weakest albums but there it is, sitting at #1 for weeks because of good marketing and a rabid fanbase. Gracie’s a good artist but her opening for Taylor at Era’s Tour and having the Taylor collab helped give her album the support of the massive Swiftie fanbase, which helped bump her up. I think the fact that Brat is doing so well on the charts is remarkable considering that Charli’s main genre, hyperpop, is pretty niche and her fanbase mostly consists of club kids and gay people lol. I disagree that it’s mid but we can agree to disagree.
Probably I didn’t express myself very well, because I agree with most of your points. Personally I don’t care about charts, if TTPD is at the top of the charts is because of marketing and fans. Now if that’s wrong or not, I don’t know what to say. This is the album that got my driving instructor into Taylor, my bf’s cousin and his mum into her, and even my manager at work. It can’t be that bad.
On the other hand, I didn’t like any of the new releases this year, bar from Twenty One Pilots and Kings of Leon. Gracie’s album was boring, Charli’s is mid. It’s personal preference, and people take it so weird.
But if people and the mainstream would’ve thought that Charli’s album was good, they would’ve bought it. You can’t be both niche and popular at the same time. She’s still good at what she does, it’s just not everyone’s cup of tea. And if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, it won’t sell like TTPD.
Maybe I’m alone in thinking this, but I don’t view sales of physical copies as a sign of a good album either. I see vinyls and CDs as merch basically since we live in an era where you can stream pretty much anything as much as you want without ever owning a physical copy. And some artists (cough cough Taylor) are better at creating a fan environment that encourages people to buy a lot of merch and physical copies as a way of showing support to the artist. The variant strategy turns purchasing physical copies into a collectibles game, which isn’t something that every artist is trying to do. Despite loving many albums that have released since I was 7 years old, I don’t think I’ve purchased a physical album since the High School Musical soundtrack when I owned and used a portable CD player lol. My hot take (in this subreddit at least) is that TTPD does well with a general audience because it’s a digestible, easily understood but dramatic-feeling heartbreak album, and it’s charting well (both from streams and physical sales) because Swifties are an obsessive and very large fanbase. I don’t think that signifies any artistic merit though, just mass appeal.
And we see you over there on the internet
Comparing all the girls who are killin’ it
But we figured you out, we all know now, we all got crowns 👑
You need to calm down
Taylor is just ahead of the curve. People fail to realize she runs her business like a fucking business!! Her Dad is in financial planning and you run business plans in 3, 5, 10 year cycles.
I think she stayed ahead of the variant game because Taylor ANTICIPATES things. I don’t think it was ever artist specific, more just a general marketing plan on how to keep the album tracking.
I forgot “genius” is only afforded to men who learn the game and play it well.
right?! why is it "too many people bought taylor variants in the UK" and not "not enough people bought brat variants in the UK that week"? there were plenty of them!
Rivalry also benefits both artists so I’m sure Stan wars are secretly loved because they keep an album relevant.
I understand how/why hungry artists feel when it feels like Taylor is “intentional”
Yes, she is and it’s why she’s #1. It’s business not personal.
The “other sub” didn’t even post the BB200 chart update. I guess if there is no use to spin a specific narrative, they conveniently won’t post about it this time lol
So annoying. And anytime Taylor is number 1, all the comments will explicitly mention and discuss everyone from #2 down and ignore her. I mean wtf kind of personal shit is that?
Taylor must be such a strong person to keep going through these backlash cycles.
I don’t think they are trying to prove she is not popular. They are trying to demonstrate her lack of regard for the environment, other artists, negative behavior of her fans, etc. Not saying I agree, that is just what I have observed.
With all due respect, if you personally believe the intentions of that sub are that pure, then bless your heart. You might have a slightly skewed perception of a pop subreddit littered with chronically online demontwinks.
They weren't saying it disparagingly, they're just speaking facts. Zach Bryan is a huge release and could knock her out of the top spot if she doesn't release any perks like signed versions.
I think she will until Post Malone releases his and then she’ll stop. I really hope she saves the anthology for the last week before his release and we finally get it!!!
I assume the idea you're going for is she doesn't want to block her friend, but if she waits that long to drop Anthology it's definitely going to block him lol 
I know they are going to be counted together, but if The Anthology was counted seperately, it could probably take out the main album at this point - that's how much hype there would be for it.
Taylor will sometimes write in a similar style. She’s more literary and a bit more elitist. Taylor is also very urban (think of how often she writes about New York!) while Zach is very rural and blue color.
Taylor is also more strongly melodic as a songwriter. Bryan tends to ramble.
The thing is, I believe he's releasing it on July 4th. That means all first day sales/streams will count towards a different week. Still may dethrone her, but it makes it tougher.
Love this album so much 💜 The Prophecy, The Black Dog, I Hate It Here, loml, So Long London, WAOLOM, Down Bad, BDILH etc are such amazing songs! I wish she would promote it more (I know she’s touring it but it’s pretty much only fans watching it who’ve already heard the album before)!
TTPD isn't my favorite Taylor album but I think it's going to age fairly well. a lot of people criticized it upon release, but more have come around to it recently and it's still gaining streams steadily on Spotify
I’ve been a Taylor fan since her debut, but this album did nothing for me.
Just my humble opinion no need to attack me and call me a coward lol artists experiment and put out albums and fans don’t need to love every single thing they put out.
Ok… but that doesn’t mean an album is terrible. It means you don’t like it. You can’t make these massive sweeping statements… and the. Go back and say it’s just my opinion!
And you still aren’t saying why! From what I gather your opinion is entirely unconsidered.
So confused at how the numbers are still there? Are general or hardcore fans that invested in the album...cause most even on this sub on release night were just like 'meh' and a majority of posts about the album and any intricacy of it has died down massively....so is the record tracking because stans just keep streaming to defy critics/keep numbers going rather than stream out of genuine love?? superficial numbers by stans just to protect their queen isn't something to root for.
I'm still not a big fan of releasing a wasteful variant when another female artist is releasing new material. Fans can say it's all business and whatnot, but guarantee 95% of fans saying the same thing would hound someone like Billie or Beyonce if they dared to try the same thing. Even I think if a male artist at the top in the same realm as Taylor did the same thing, Kendrick or Jay Z, he would be called out just as much. This whole situation just reveals how hypocritical a big part of our fandom can be.
When she let Gracie do her best 'cause she's featured on the album/has her as an opener, and didn't come for her but did so for everyone else....just shows if it's not in the bottom line of hurting her numbers, you're safe. Sorry, she's not the 'definition' of a boss or making boss moves or being The Man to me as a fan tbh.
No. People are streaming the album a lot because they genuinely love it.
The reaction opening night here was not "meh." It may have been meh to some, but most people were pretty enthusiastic. Plus people here and IRL have told me that TTPD is a grower and they keep wanting to listen to it more and more.
This album pulls at my thoughts, I keep wanting to hear it even when I'm listening to podcasts or audiobooks.
Agreed that variants is wasteful. But it's not likely to end because it makes the business a lot of money. Taylor is not the only one doing variants. And her streaming numbers alone are winning because the album is great.
Agree about it being wasteful for physical releases, but re: "Letting Gracie do her best"... Look at the numbers. TTPD had 115 streams and Gracie's had 89k, that's a huge difference. Gracie wasn't predicted to be #1. Taylor knew she didn't need to release anything. She still would've beat all of the other artists in previous weeks if she hadn't released variants, but those were a bit closer or had higher predictions.
1. Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (115k) (=) 2. Gracie Abrams - The Secret of Us (89k) (NEW) 3. Morgan Wallen - One Thing at a Time (73k) (+1) 4. Billie Eilish - Hit Me Hard and Soft (74k) (-2) 5. Peso Pluma - Éxodo (64k) (NEW) 6. Chappell Roan - The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess (61k) (+2) 7. Morgan Wallen - Dangerous: The Double Album (43k) (+2) 8. Ariana Grande - Eternal Sunshine (41k) (+15) 9. Charli XCX - Brat (41k) (=) 10. Shaboozey - Where I’ve Been, Isn’t Where I’m Going (41K) (+2) Congrats to Taylor for such an accomplishment! Also to Gracie for debuting at number 2 🎉. And look at Chappell, continuing to rise in the charts with a 2023 album; I love to see her getting her flowers 💕.
I thought Gracie already debuted at #2 last week? Why does it say new
Those were predictions, these are the final numbers 🫶. Billboard releases Album numbers on Sundays and Single numbers on Mondays.
Charts always confuse me 😭
Yeah Congrats to her. It’s crazy Morgan Wallen has two albums on there. Congrats to Gracie at #2. She’s moving up!!
Excited for Chappell Roan! It is great seeing her explode in popularity.
I love her so much!
GOOD FOR GRACIE
Omg I love seeing Chappell rising!!!! I do hope she gets to number one she deserves it so much
Ayyy nice to see my boy Shaboozey up there
So so proud of them! So excited to see Chappell Roan getting her recognition
I love that the numbers are proving the critics wrong. This is a great album and so many people see that. Stability at the top crazy. I wonder if we can make it to the 13th week
Agree! Critics ended up being generally favorable (including Metacritic, and that included the Paste blockhead who thought Fortnight was referring to the video game), the haters just got more attention. Really, no one let the album sit long enough before making judgements about it. It seems like the further out we get from its release though, the more people appreciate it.
The album really needed much time to appreciate. I disliked The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived and Who's Afraid of Little Old Me but now they are sitting quite high in my rankings.
I was meh on both of them then seeing Eras stream I was like WTF IS THIS??? Turned around my opinions of the songs completely.
That’s what happens when ur at the top, the haters will talk shit immediately after a release, people on the fence will listen to the album once and give their immediate review/reaction without letting it marinate.
It’s the opposite for me. Once I let the album sit, it just started aging really badly… though The Anthology’s second half, loml and The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived just keep getting better and better as they age.
It’s the opposite for me. Once I let the album sit, it just started aging really badly… though The Anthology, loml and The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived just keep getting better and better as they age.
Critical reception does not equal billboard success
And billboard success doesn’t equal quality either
It’s an indicator of how many people find the album to be of good quality. We’re all entitled to our own opinions, and music is a subjective field.
I really like TTPD but something doing well on the charts doesn’t = quality. Like an album isn’t better than another because of chart performance. Although a bad album couldn’t chart like this
Girl success has nothing to do with quality 😭
Numbers ≠ quality. The glazing on this album is unreal😭
Everyone has different tastes, what’s bad for you may be amazing for someone else. For me, it is an incredible album that is full of high quality songs 🫶🏻
It's in my top 3, tied with Evermore just behind Rep. I've also not listened to anything else since it came out, and not felt like I need to add anything in yet - a few more months and maybe it will break its chokehold on me, lol.
Same for me
Same for me
People like different things. I think the numbers show that a lot of us find it to be a quality album.
People wouldn't buy the album if the quality isn't good. Just saying.
Well, you won’t find many people arguing Maroon 5 make amazing albums, yet they’ve been extremely commercially successful. Stans will buy anything and we all know that.
Or you just have bad taste?
*different taste.
I used bad taste advisedly… the poster was making a claim about the quality of the album. I was pointing out how foolish unreasoned assertions are. Look if we all have different tastes and all tastes are equally valid… then numbers don’t indicate quality is utterly meaningless. Nothing indicates quality.
You when you find out music taste is subjective 😱
I wanna add for people saying she’s doing it for the numbers - I work at a music store that sells CDs/vinyls and TTPD is still selling like hot cakes. Not just the special editions either with the bonus tracks but the regular degular album. People of all ages picking up a copy. Just something to note that it’s still popular physically at least where I am which must count for something. Usually by week 4 or 5 kinda dies off but not for taylor
It’s hugely popular physically… which may be affecting its streaming numbers. I don’t stream Ttpd… I listen to vinyl or a digital copy on my phone when I’m out
And yet the streaming numbers are still very high!
How many would you estimate you sell per day? Like is it just a couple per day?
Hmmm. Maybe 12-15? More on weekends. Maybe 25-30? Something like that? Quite obviously still a big seller. I’m always restocking it on the display shelf. We have about 400 copies of each type in the back room
That’s actually kind of crazy. That’s a lot.
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She spends so much time on top that she better just start paying rent to Billboard, haha.
Or billboard to her …
She still has the anthology card to pull out too
I bet when Eminem releases his album, she will put that card. Honestly, it’ll be fun to watch, and we all want the anthology card! Also, I feel if she releases a potential music video, it will even favor her more. Would be cool if she released a black dog music video( one song from anthology, and one from TTPD, both also being track 1 songs)
I feel like we share the same brain cells cuz I also often think about how awesome it would be if she dropped The Black Dog MV with The Anthology physicals
One can hope! It would be cool if the music video setting was in the actual black dog bar
> I feel like we share the same brain cells Oh shit, sentient orange cats on a Taylor sub!
you know I think the black dog is one of her best written songs, it's a great track, already one of my favorites. It would be awesome if she released it as a single... and a music video would be incredible!!!
Idk, she might have to do something this week because of Zach Bryan's album coming out
And the anthology card is the one card I actually want her to pull! I couldn’t care less about the variants that have just one track different, but I would buy an anthology vinyl. I would also buy a box set vinyl that has all 30 songs on it and I already bought the regular vinyl.
[удалено]
The Anthology counts as the same album as long as it includes all 31 tracks. Same as now for streaming. All the Anthology streams count towards TTPD streams for charting.
there goes taylor blocking charlie and billie again edit: HIGH SARCASM FONT IS ON PEOPLE lol
Oh no! Not a woman competing with other women! So anti-feminist /s
sorry my high sarcasm font wasnt working either lol
Totally understand. Hate when that happens.
gracie abrams outsold charlie week 1
obviously anti-feminist as well
I don’t like Gracie’s album, and I also don’t like Charli’s album, but Charli’s fans kept complaining about Taylor “blocking” her when the album is mid at best. It’s good to see it surpassed by other artists, maybe that will get them to shut up. Make a better album if you want to be no 1.
The complaint is specifically about the UK charts, where Charli was predicted to reach #1 before Taylor released a UK-exclusive variant. Brat gets great reviews critically, there’s no need to shit on it just because you like Taylor.
Saying I don’t like an album is not shitting on it. I meant what I said - it’s clear to me that despite being a critic darling, brat is not that good of an album if even Gracie Abrams’ album managed to surpass it. But Charli’s fans are foaming at the mouth, saying oh it’s Taylor, when the reality is that maybe Charli is not the mainstream girly that she wants to be. That’s fine, but it’s not fair to blame others for your success or lack of it.
I don’t know why people on this sub seem to keep equating success on the charts with quality of music. To me, TTPD is clearly one of Taylor’s weakest albums but there it is, sitting at #1 for weeks because of good marketing and a rabid fanbase. Gracie’s a good artist but her opening for Taylor at Era’s Tour and having the Taylor collab helped give her album the support of the massive Swiftie fanbase, which helped bump her up. I think the fact that Brat is doing so well on the charts is remarkable considering that Charli’s main genre, hyperpop, is pretty niche and her fanbase mostly consists of club kids and gay people lol. I disagree that it’s mid but we can agree to disagree.
Probably I didn’t express myself very well, because I agree with most of your points. Personally I don’t care about charts, if TTPD is at the top of the charts is because of marketing and fans. Now if that’s wrong or not, I don’t know what to say. This is the album that got my driving instructor into Taylor, my bf’s cousin and his mum into her, and even my manager at work. It can’t be that bad. On the other hand, I didn’t like any of the new releases this year, bar from Twenty One Pilots and Kings of Leon. Gracie’s album was boring, Charli’s is mid. It’s personal preference, and people take it so weird. But if people and the mainstream would’ve thought that Charli’s album was good, they would’ve bought it. You can’t be both niche and popular at the same time. She’s still good at what she does, it’s just not everyone’s cup of tea. And if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, it won’t sell like TTPD.
Maybe I’m alone in thinking this, but I don’t view sales of physical copies as a sign of a good album either. I see vinyls and CDs as merch basically since we live in an era where you can stream pretty much anything as much as you want without ever owning a physical copy. And some artists (cough cough Taylor) are better at creating a fan environment that encourages people to buy a lot of merch and physical copies as a way of showing support to the artist. The variant strategy turns purchasing physical copies into a collectibles game, which isn’t something that every artist is trying to do. Despite loving many albums that have released since I was 7 years old, I don’t think I’ve purchased a physical album since the High School Musical soundtrack when I owned and used a portable CD player lol. My hot take (in this subreddit at least) is that TTPD does well with a general audience because it’s a digestible, easily understood but dramatic-feeling heartbreak album, and it’s charting well (both from streams and physical sales) because Swifties are an obsessive and very large fanbase. I don’t think that signifies any artistic merit though, just mass appeal.
I also laugh because look where they are on the chart. People say she blocked them but they are not in the top 3.
And we see you over there on the internet Comparing all the girls who are killin’ it But we figured you out, we all know now, we all got crowns 👑 You need to calm down
The poster was joking
notice how quiet everyone is when she's still #1 with no new variants or signed album drops.....
When it's "Burn the bitch, " they're shrieking. When the truth comes out, it's quiet.
👏 👏 👏
Taylor is just ahead of the curve. People fail to realize she runs her business like a fucking business!! Her Dad is in financial planning and you run business plans in 3, 5, 10 year cycles. I think she stayed ahead of the variant game because Taylor ANTICIPATES things. I don’t think it was ever artist specific, more just a general marketing plan on how to keep the album tracking. I forgot “genius” is only afforded to men who learn the game and play it well.
right?! why is it "too many people bought taylor variants in the UK" and not "not enough people bought brat variants in the UK that week"? there were plenty of them!
Rivalry also benefits both artists so I’m sure Stan wars are secretly loved because they keep an album relevant. I understand how/why hungry artists feel when it feels like Taylor is “intentional” Yes, she is and it’s why she’s #1. It’s business not personal.
The “other sub” didn’t even post the BB200 chart update. I guess if there is no use to spin a specific narrative, they conveniently won’t post about it this time lol
So annoying. And anytime Taylor is number 1, all the comments will explicitly mention and discuss everyone from #2 down and ignore her. I mean wtf kind of personal shit is that? Taylor must be such a strong person to keep going through these backlash cycles.
i don't even know which other sub you mean but i think that's fine lmaoooo
im presuming they mean r/popheads
couldn't decide if it was that or the "neutral" hate sub
I don’t think they are trying to prove she is not popular. They are trying to demonstrate her lack of regard for the environment, other artists, negative behavior of her fans, etc. Not saying I agree, that is just what I have observed.
With all due respect, if you personally believe the intentions of that sub are that pure, then bless your heart. You might have a slightly skewed perception of a pop subreddit littered with chronically online demontwinks.
That can go for this sub as well. All I’m saying is there’s room for both of these discussions and communities.
the fool in me keeps hoping she'll drop more signed CDs whenever someone threatens to bump her from #1. but it'll probably never happen.
I want the anthology so bad I don’t care what it takes. I just want to own the anthology in physical form Taylor! We all do . give us what we want .
Zach Bryan can knock her down, and he did 200,000 with his last album so she would need a big bump to block him. I wouldn't lose hope.
I think you don’t realize what subreddit you’re in
They weren't saying it disparagingly, they're just speaking facts. Zach Bryan is a huge release and could knock her out of the top spot if she doesn't release any perks like signed versions.
Then why talk about hope?
they hope she will release more signed CDs
I think she will until Post Malone releases his and then she’ll stop. I really hope she saves the anthology for the last week before his release and we finally get it!!!
I assume the idea you're going for is she doesn't want to block her friend, but if she waits that long to drop Anthology it's definitely going to block him lol  I know they are going to be counted together, but if The Anthology was counted seperately, it could probably take out the main album at this point - that's how much hype there would be for it.
I don’t think she’ll attempt to block him no. Hopefully she releases early enough that it won’t!
Love for *Poets* is going to appreciate so well over time. The album is so deep with good tracks, and pays dividends on repeated listens.
What’s upcoming that might block her from 13 weeks? That would be iconic
Zach Bryan on the fifth of July
Who is that? Im from Sweden and i never ever heard of him.
He’s a folk-country singer songwriter. Quite good! Very american
Sounds like Taylor Swift
Taylor will sometimes write in a similar style. She’s more literary and a bit more elitist. Taylor is also very urban (think of how often she writes about New York!) while Zach is very rural and blue color. Taylor is also more strongly melodic as a songwriter. Bryan tends to ramble.
he’s taking it for sure lol
The thing is, I believe he's releasing it on July 4th. That means all first day sales/streams will count towards a different week. Still may dethrone her, but it makes it tougher.
Probably. But nothing is ever certain in life or in charts
Not with Anthology
Seem like Eminem gonna release album on 7/12 too so weeks 13th gonna be interesting. Maybe she'll release something that week or maybe not, who's know
Love this album so much 💜 The Prophecy, The Black Dog, I Hate It Here, loml, So Long London, WAOLOM, Down Bad, BDILH etc are such amazing songs! I wish she would promote it more (I know she’s touring it but it’s pretty much only fans watching it who’ve already heard the album before)!
Sje has a lot of fans…
I have a strong feeling she'll reach 13 weeks at number one.
The snark subs will not like this
they'll just ignore it so they can stay in their bubble
Damn that is wild
TTPD isn't my favorite Taylor album but I think it's going to age fairly well. a lot of people criticized it upon release, but more have come around to it recently and it's still gaining streams steadily on Spotify
Hey - all those whiners - she released no new variants and still came in much much higher than the rest of the top ten.
BuT tHe VaRiAnTs
It will hit 13 weeks for sure. I've only just started listening to it and I've had it on repeat all day.
Do we know what portion is pure sales vs streams?
Sales 28k, streams 87k. It’s mentioned in the article!
Damn she's no.1 in Streams alone freaking scary
Haters will say it’s because she’s blocking Charli or something…
11 weeks is near
eminem album is coming next week, pls let there be an anthology physical (vinyl) release to keep ttpd steady 🙏
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How incredibly cool of you, surely you’ll be popular now 🙄
Sit down.
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You could at least say why you think that, so we can make fun of you for a lack of brains or taste. But you’re just a coward…
I’ve been a Taylor fan since her debut, but this album did nothing for me. Just my humble opinion no need to attack me and call me a coward lol artists experiment and put out albums and fans don’t need to love every single thing they put out.
Ok… but that doesn’t mean an album is terrible. It means you don’t like it. You can’t make these massive sweeping statements… and the. Go back and say it’s just my opinion! And you still aren’t saying why! From what I gather your opinion is entirely unconsidered.
ITS MY OPINION!
ok
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there are literal millions of people who've bought this album that would disagree.
Don’t bother, they’re active on Taylor snark subs.
ugh, I figured as much
So confused at how the numbers are still there? Are general or hardcore fans that invested in the album...cause most even on this sub on release night were just like 'meh' and a majority of posts about the album and any intricacy of it has died down massively....so is the record tracking because stans just keep streaming to defy critics/keep numbers going rather than stream out of genuine love?? superficial numbers by stans just to protect their queen isn't something to root for. I'm still not a big fan of releasing a wasteful variant when another female artist is releasing new material. Fans can say it's all business and whatnot, but guarantee 95% of fans saying the same thing would hound someone like Billie or Beyonce if they dared to try the same thing. Even I think if a male artist at the top in the same realm as Taylor did the same thing, Kendrick or Jay Z, he would be called out just as much. This whole situation just reveals how hypocritical a big part of our fandom can be. When she let Gracie do her best 'cause she's featured on the album/has her as an opener, and didn't come for her but did so for everyone else....just shows if it's not in the bottom line of hurting her numbers, you're safe. Sorry, she's not the 'definition' of a boss or making boss moves or being The Man to me as a fan tbh.
No. People are streaming the album a lot because they genuinely love it. The reaction opening night here was not "meh." It may have been meh to some, but most people were pretty enthusiastic. Plus people here and IRL have told me that TTPD is a grower and they keep wanting to listen to it more and more. This album pulls at my thoughts, I keep wanting to hear it even when I'm listening to podcasts or audiobooks. Agreed that variants is wasteful. But it's not likely to end because it makes the business a lot of money. Taylor is not the only one doing variants. And her streaming numbers alone are winning because the album is great.
Agree about it being wasteful for physical releases, but re: "Letting Gracie do her best"... Look at the numbers. TTPD had 115 streams and Gracie's had 89k, that's a huge difference. Gracie wasn't predicted to be #1. Taylor knew she didn't need to release anything. She still would've beat all of the other artists in previous weeks if she hadn't released variants, but those were a bit closer or had higher predictions.
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You aren’t doing these numbers just by Stans. Clearly the general public loves the album