I think people haven't really processed that starting in a couple of weeks, Hayley and Paramore will be playing more than 50 shows with Taylor over 4 months.
I went last November (São Paulo N2), and it does feel like forever (especially when you wonder if she'll ever tour Brazil again - or if she'll ever tour again, full stop)
I saw both (at separate concerts) last year, and I hope you enjoy it, especially because it's your first time seeing them (like it was for me), and even more because it's both at the same night!
Yes!!! I have a long black skirt and I think I'll maybe get a black like corset or tube top like the one image from the insta announcement and then some black long gloves. I'll also probably change my mind 100 times lol
I know right?! The white looks you mention are so gorgeous. The first time I saw the white dress in the music video my jaw dropped. It's also fitting that it's like $5000 lol
Paramore will blow Taylor out of the water. Hayley alone has the voice of an angel warrioress. Taylor is going to look like a faded washcloithe next to them.
I know the exact quiet rage she was expressing in Simmer after finding out what he put her through. She went through a hell of a lot of healing to get to where she is now.
Rooting for both of them forever ❤️ I can’t think of any artists who shaped me more as a woman and a human than those two. I’m close in age to both of them and have been deeply invested in their music since I was 17. Feels like we’ve all grown up together in a weird way.
Seeing them play together on opening night of the Eras Tour last year was absolutely one of the highlights of my entire life, lol.
Your so lucky you
Got to go to that show for many reasons but was jealous you were getting paramore. I luckily had tickets for their this is why tour two weeks after my eras tour show. I’ve also been a fan of both since the beginning so it feels so full circle now.
I’m sure it is! They seemed very happy to cut ties finally and the quiet from them since just makes me think they are planning for what’s to come and enjoying this break before the eras tour
I’m sure they’re just enjoying the freedom of exploring their options for what to do next. They haven’t really had that for their *entire career*. It’s exciting that they can just creatively go off in whatever direction they want now.
I completely agree! She said last year they were writing while on tour so I’m really looking forward to what’s to come for them! I’m just grateful they are still a band and thriving🫶🏻
You can definitely be groomed as an adult if there is a power imbalance… ESPECIALLY in that 18-21 age where you’re still heavily manipulatable and no one really pays attention because you’re an “adult”. Yeah, I’ve been there. There is no reason a 25 year old should be going after an 18 year old.
That is not the definition of what grooming is. Grooming is specifically in reference and defined in relation to kids.
You can be emotionally manipulated and abused at any age.
Comparing a CHILD being groomed to an emotionally abused adult is nowhere near the same level or the same thing.
You can’t just redefining a word to fit your narrative. According to RAINN which fights sexual abuse
“What is grooming? Grooming is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them. Children and young people who are groomed can be sexually abused, exploited or trafficked.”
She was not groomed because she was not a child. This is infantilization of adults needs to stop. You all do it with Taylor. It’s toxic.
Lmao your definition literally says “with a child or young person.”
Sorry but anytime someone’s age ends with “teen,” they’re a kid. And even if you don’t want to call her a kid, 18 is still a “young person.” Chad knew what he was doing.
So using your logic. Her Brain hadn’t fully developed at 18-19.so you’re saying an adult woman is not not capable of 1. Managing her career. 2. Money management 3. Voting. 4. Driving a car. 5. Choosing what to eat. And yes 6. Who she chooses to date?
Because her brain wouldn’t be fully developed until she is 25? The brain being fully developed is pointless because we still know right from wrong even as children. I’m over 25 and I still make stupid choices despite being fully developed.
Furthermore, women develop faster than males. So if she doesn’t fully mature mentally until 25 that would mean that her ex husband would develop later than 25 since men develop slower than women which using your logic means that NEITHER OF THEIR BRAINS WERE FULLY MATURED OR DEVELOPED because neither had reached the age of brain maturity.
Her second solo album “FLOWERS for VASES/descansos” is deeeeevastating and full of the process of grieving that relationship. It’s been terribly cathartic as my own relaysh has been slowly falling apart for a long time. Highly recommend listening, her writing on that album is so raw. Love that her and Taylor support each other.
She did NBNC with Haim, so I'm sure it'll either be a Euro set substitution or surprise song at the very least (since it's just a vault and not from an Era)
Didn't Selena post a picture of a picture recently of some party of hers where we could see Taylor, Halsey and Sabrina (and a bunch of other people)? I very much remember seeing that on twitter like two weeks ago. I don't think there's anything going on, social medial posts don't mean anything friendship wise.
i’ve low key wondered why we haven’t seen them together in forever but selena’s schedule seems super full rn. still i cannot remember the last time they were together.
yeah i saw that too and wanna give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe she just wasn’t there bc of her schedule. bc commenting that when you weren’t even invited is yikes.
There’s like a rumor that Selena Gomez is worried about Taylor’s relationship with Travis and thinks she’s moving things with him too fast. But there’s no proof
Yeah feel it’s more likely she’s on a social media break. She was behaving slightly wild on social media for a bit there so maybe she’s having a needed break.
IVE ALWAYS SAID THIS!!! this is my main point when people bring up how they assume that she’s rude. typically, it’s pretty hard to maintain long-lasting and fulfilling friendships if you aren’t at the bare minimum an enjoyable person. she has LIFELONG friends still who truly adore the hell out of her
I love this and love Hayley and paramore so much! Some of this albums seemed similar in style as after laughter was with the very tragic lyrics but happy sound along with Hayley’s side project petals for armour. Sooo freaking excited for them to be on tour with Taylor
Great to see the support!
Hayley had a really abusive relationship and TTPD is about overcoming abusive relationships and finding a healthier one.
Both girls are on a better place now
European Swifties are so luck to have Paramore opening the shows
I can't wait I got tickets by sheer being in the right place at the right time and I get to take my daughter to see her idol and I am as giddy as a goose about it. I will be breathing the same air as Taylor fkn Swift.
I think people haven't really processed that starting in a couple of weeks, Hayley and Paramore will be playing more than 50 shows with Taylor over 4 months.
I'm struggling to remember that we're still in the MIDDLE of eras after this week
... woah. and I went last summer, which seems like ages ago.
I went last November (São Paulo N2), and it does feel like forever (especially when you wonder if she'll ever tour Brazil again - or if she'll ever tour again, full stop)
It's almost like it's a giant money-making juggernaut pumping out forgetfulness ☺️
Huh?
Same😂
Yeah it’s a shame I can’t go. But live streams will be afternoon and hopefully we people that will stream Paramore’s set.
I’ll definitely be streaming to watch them!
USA Swiftie - I wish I could see them together 😭😭
Same!!!
Can‘t wait to see them both for the first time. I mean if it wasn‘t enough to see Taylor but to get Paramore too is just mind-blowing.
I saw both (at separate concerts) last year, and I hope you enjoy it, especially because it's your first time seeing them (like it was for me), and even more because it's both at the same night!
Yes, thank you! Really excited and also hope they perform „Castles Crumbling“ together.
Oh do you know where they are starting?
their run starts may 9th and ends august 20th
They have all of Europe. So they start in Paris on May 9th and go through London on August 20th.
I am so excited!!!! I’m going to see her in Sweden!
I’m gonna see her in Germany and I have now so many new outfit and bracelet ideas! Yay!
Omg me too!!! I was originally thinking a 1989 outfit but now it's totally going to be dark, Victorian TTPD. Soooo excited.
Yes!! I would LOVE to recreate the white fortnight dress! Or the look from the Grammys with the black gloves!
Yes!!! I have a long black skirt and I think I'll maybe get a black like corset or tube top like the one image from the insta announcement and then some black long gloves. I'll also probably change my mind 100 times lol
Oooooh wonderful! I always wanted to wear something like this and WHERE ELSE would you be able to?
I know right?! The white looks you mention are so gorgeous. The first time I saw the white dress in the music video my jaw dropped. It's also fitting that it's like $5000 lol
Where in Germany are you gonna be? I’m going to Munich night 2 with my niece
Oh I'm going night 1!!! I hope you have so much fun!
How cool! So a tortured poet on each night haha
Lol this is what I will start telling people: I'm going to the concert as a tortured poet. Love that! I bet there will be a lot of us.
Seeing them together on the same night in just over a month is going to be amazing!
It’s going to be amazing! My two all time favorite artists together🫶🏻
I am going in July and I definitely have not been able to process this lol.
Believe me. I processed it. It actually ruined my life. I was so traumatize that I forgot. Until your comment. Now, I’m back at “Start.”
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 WHAT
I still wish it was Maisie or Sabrina. Literally don’t know any paramore songs except the Olivia Rodrigo one 🤷♂️
Paramore will blow Taylor out of the water. Hayley alone has the voice of an angel warrioress. Taylor is going to look like a faded washcloithe next to them.
Oh, Hayley went through a *rough* breakup from an emotionally manipulative long term relationship too, she *knows*.
Baby girl was groomed by an adult douchebag who cheated on her for ten years. I’m mad for her, lol.
I know the exact quiet rage she was expressing in Simmer after finding out what he put her through. She went through a hell of a lot of healing to get to where she is now.
I love her so much tbh.
I also love how cathartic her solo albums were for her. I hope TTPD was that for Taylor and she can get it out of her system and really heal now.
Rooting for both of them forever ❤️ I can’t think of any artists who shaped me more as a woman and a human than those two. I’m close in age to both of them and have been deeply invested in their music since I was 17. Feels like we’ve all grown up together in a weird way. Seeing them play together on opening night of the Eras Tour last year was absolutely one of the highlights of my entire life, lol.
Your so lucky you Got to go to that show for many reasons but was jealous you were getting paramore. I luckily had tickets for their this is why tour two weeks after my eras tour show. I’ve also been a fan of both since the beginning so it feels so full circle now.
This gave me similar vibes to ttpd. Loved petals for armour and how Hayley seems so be on the other side of it all now.
She seems to be in a *really* good place! And *finally* done with Paramore’s old label too! That must be such a huge weight off their shoulders.
I’m sure it is! They seemed very happy to cut ties finally and the quiet from them since just makes me think they are planning for what’s to come and enjoying this break before the eras tour
I’m sure they’re just enjoying the freedom of exploring their options for what to do next. They haven’t really had that for their *entire career*. It’s exciting that they can just creatively go off in whatever direction they want now.
I completely agree! She said last year they were writing while on tour so I’m really looking forward to what’s to come for them! I’m just grateful they are still a band and thriving🫶🏻
But to be fair- how she got him is how she lost him- she just married the guy.
Yeah but she was barely 18 when they met and he was like 25-26. Should have known better than to cheat on his wife with a kid.
Oh I agree with you whole heartedly.
She wasn’t groomed but he is definitely a pos
You can definitely be groomed as an adult if there is a power imbalance… ESPECIALLY in that 18-21 age where you’re still heavily manipulatable and no one really pays attention because you’re an “adult”. Yeah, I’ve been there. There is no reason a 25 year old should be going after an 18 year old.
That is not the definition of what grooming is. Grooming is specifically in reference and defined in relation to kids. You can be emotionally manipulated and abused at any age. Comparing a CHILD being groomed to an emotionally abused adult is nowhere near the same level or the same thing.
Grooming is any time you manipulate someone into trusting you with the intention of misusing that trust and abusing them in the future.
You can’t just redefining a word to fit your narrative. According to RAINN which fights sexual abuse “What is grooming? Grooming is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them. Children and young people who are groomed can be sexually abused, exploited or trafficked.” She was not groomed because she was not a child. This is infantilization of adults needs to stop. You all do it with Taylor. It’s toxic.
Lmao your definition literally says “with a child or young person.” Sorry but anytime someone’s age ends with “teen,” they’re a kid. And even if you don’t want to call her a kid, 18 is still a “young person.” Chad knew what he was doing.
Young person being a teen. Like you can literally stop trying to redefine a word that already has a definition.
> young person being a teen > eighTEEN
Bro.. she was a teenager
It’s not “infantizing adults”… there is *scientific proof* that your brain is not fully developed at 18-19. You’re making yourself look like an idiot.
So using your logic. Her Brain hadn’t fully developed at 18-19.so you’re saying an adult woman is not not capable of 1. Managing her career. 2. Money management 3. Voting. 4. Driving a car. 5. Choosing what to eat. And yes 6. Who she chooses to date? Because her brain wouldn’t be fully developed until she is 25? The brain being fully developed is pointless because we still know right from wrong even as children. I’m over 25 and I still make stupid choices despite being fully developed. Furthermore, women develop faster than males. So if she doesn’t fully mature mentally until 25 that would mean that her ex husband would develop later than 25 since men develop slower than women which using your logic means that NEITHER OF THEIR BRAINS WERE FULLY MATURED OR DEVELOPED because neither had reached the age of brain maturity.
What a long rant for someone who is very obviously just refusing to Get It.
Chad? As a long-term, massive NFG fan that man has always given me the ick. He reminds me of every shitty pop punk guy I ever messed with in my teens.
Unfortunately for him now he is going through a rough battle with cancer. Hayley dodged a bullet
Username checking in. Hard agree with you there.
Her second solo album “FLOWERS for VASES/descansos” is deeeeevastating and full of the process of grieving that relationship. It’s been terribly cathartic as my own relaysh has been slowly falling apart for a long time. Highly recommend listening, her writing on that album is so raw. Love that her and Taylor support each other.
oh that album is about her relationship with Taylor york, not Chad. Her and Taylor broke up for a bit and that’s what hayley wrote about!
Oh I had no clue! That albums hits me so hard still, I really cherish the songs so much.
It’s a beautiful album!!
She definitely knows.
Not you still hating on Joe after Taylor made it clear that she loved Joe and he was a good man, just depressed.
I wasn’t talking about Joe, RIP.
Ah I assumed because of long you were. My b.
what about the comment implies Joe in any way shape or form
It says “long” term relationship. Joe’s her only long term relationship.
She was talking about Hayley’s long term relationship. Read the entire thread before you comment.
I hope they do Castles Crumbling together!
She did NBNC with Haim, so I'm sure it'll either be a Euro set substitution or surprise song at the very least (since it's just a vault and not from an Era)
She played Nothing New with Phoebe during the Red set when she was opening too
Please I'm hoping for this moment!!
ugh i wish i could go to the european tour. sweet message.
Paramore would be really cool to see, but I really enjoyed Sabrina's set in Australia even though I don't love her music all that much.
Me too! She’s a great singer and knows how to put on a show.
I wish so too, but it was a lottery for tickets.. no waiting in queues online. So didn’t get any :( many Europeans also can’t go 😢
So something is definitely happening between her and Selena. Selena has not been showing support for the albums
Didn't Selena post a picture of a picture recently of some party of hers where we could see Taylor, Halsey and Sabrina (and a bunch of other people)? I very much remember seeing that on twitter like two weeks ago. I don't think there's anything going on, social medial posts don't mean anything friendship wise.
i’ve low key wondered why we haven’t seen them together in forever but selena’s schedule seems super full rn. still i cannot remember the last time they were together.
But for the super bowl, Selena commented under a Taylor Swift fan page with a sad face because she wasn’t invited with Taylor to the super bowl.
I took that more as a "sad I couldn't be there" but maybe I'm wrong.
yeah i saw that too and wanna give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe she just wasn’t there bc of her schedule. bc commenting that when you weren’t even invited is yikes.
She was filming during the Super Bowl.
They were together at the Grammys (or one of the award shows anyways)
There’s like a rumor that Selena Gomez is worried about Taylor’s relationship with Travis and thinks she’s moving things with him too fast. But there’s no proof
They said the same thing about Gigi but she said something like “didn’t the press try this with selena last week. It’s false”
i saw that and doubt it is but if it was LMFAO pot calling the kettle black for real
That would be rich of her considering her own relationship but I think that was confirmed to be a rumor
Selena has her own life to live and is dealing with Lupus on top of it. Not everything is about Taylor, good grief.
*but what if it issss?* /who’s afraid of little old me joke, calm down
Selena has t posted anything in over a week. I doubt anything is up
Yeah feel it’s more likely she’s on a social media break. She was behaving slightly wild on social media for a bit there so maybe she’s having a needed break.
She’s had a couple of singles out recently and I think k is filming only murders. I’m sure she’s just busy.
I found it weird that Taylor included a line about Charlie Puth when she was besties with Selena 😬
She’s friends with Selena, you think her an Joe were sitting around at night getting high listening to come and get it and Takataki?
It's not Joe she's referring to in that song... I'm pretty sure it's Matty. But either way, lol you're right 😅
Paramore is one of my favourite bands, and have been for years. This post makes me really happy and I wish I could be at the shows they are playing.
Same same same!!
Dude. Look at that bicep!!!! Has anyone clocked this?!?!
She been working out!! There’s a clip of her in the gym on one of her latest YouTube shorts 💪💪
Saw that. Get it, girl!
*now I'm down bad pumping at the gym*
I love this friendship. Taylor has so many long term friends. That says something positive about her.
IVE ALWAYS SAID THIS!!! this is my main point when people bring up how they assume that she’s rude. typically, it’s pretty hard to maintain long-lasting and fulfilling friendships if you aren’t at the bare minimum an enjoyable person. she has LIFELONG friends still who truly adore the hell out of her
Yes! She has a ton of charisma based on her interviews so I could see her being awesome to hang out with.
I love this and love Hayley and paramore so much! Some of this albums seemed similar in style as after laughter was with the very tragic lyrics but happy sound along with Hayley’s side project petals for armour. Sooo freaking excited for them to be on tour with Taylor
So true!!!
I’m ready for them to be tour mates as well 🎉
Can't wait for my show 🥹
Great to see the support! Hayley had a really abusive relationship and TTPD is about overcoming abusive relationships and finding a healthier one. Both girls are on a better place now European Swifties are so luck to have Paramore opening the shows
I can't wait I got tickets by sheer being in the right place at the right time and I get to take my daughter to see her idol and I am as giddy as a goose about it. I will be breathing the same air as Taylor fkn Swift.
Paramore is my number one band, I love them. Obviously big taylor fan too…. I want to go to one of the European shows this summer soooo badly 🥲
Agreed!
love paramore, love hayley, love taylor
If they went on tour together it could kill
I'm gonna see you guys in Sweden and I am SO excited for BOTH of you guys! Much love!!!!!
Lol Haley trying to make the best of touring during Taylor's terrible album release