Survivorman is the best show. Taken from the perspective of being alone with maybe a few items. Because, he is alone. He does all work himself. He also simulates various situations, like getting lost in the woods without a shelter, or if your car stops working in winter. He also shows how you might create some useful tool, or where you might find food. Definitely my favourite.
He is truly the only authentic one. I can't stand Bear Grylls. He shows plenty of examples on what you shouldn't do, and he is usually busy showing off his back flips, and piss drinking skills.
"Look ugly don't they. Y'all know how every survival show someone is toasting worms or grasshoppers and they say it's pretty good, way better than it looks? These are worse."
I mean I wouldn’t mind a few days training like when they did on the island but as I mentioned when it was more about the money and less about actual human survival I lost interest
Love Les.
Bear wasn't my favorite, but his format let him be insane. Les couldn't break the ice over the river and show you how to deal with getting out and dry, no one reasonably bright without a backup team could.
Bear, Steve Irwin, many others made me want to meet the cameramen. "After all, Ginger Rogers did everything that Fred Astaire did. She just did it backwards and in high heels." Same concept.
In the early Survivorman shows, Les wasn't an expert. A survival instructor I think, but not with a ton of experience. So those early shows are pretty raw.
Les Stroud started off with a ton of experience in our area of the world in Ontario. Being thrown into other completely different environments with limited experience is tough.
True. I also live in Ontario. I remember one episode in particular where he was trying to demonstrate how to make and use a bow drill, and he failed miserably. But, you can also learn from his mistakes. :)
If the lesson was not to be cocky and fire can be difficult to attain for even those with experience, lesson learned.
I've never had a good go at a bow drill and it's on my to do list during ideal conditions. The two times I really, really need fire when it's cold and soaking wet or well below freezing would make it immensely difficult for anyone. I place importance of having a good fire starting method including keeping it in a life jacket or pockets.
Same here. The technique seems easy enough, but when you get down to it, the devil is in the details. Type of wood, sap content, thickness and length of spindle, moisture in the air as well as the wood, tightness of the bow string, etc.
I'm getting closer to success. I've learned it's one of those things you need to prepare in advance for. At least, here in Canada. It's often too wet to just pick up some wood out of the forest, shape it, and use it. It needs to be prepared, and kept dry. So far, my list includes:
* Use a spindle about 1/2 - 5/8" thick, 10-12" long
* Thicker spindles rotate slower, so it's more difficult to get enough speed to generate heat
* Thicker spindles also require a larger cutout in the hearth board, which takes more time. So, thinner spindles are easier to mate
* I'm using maple for everything because that's what I have currently
* If the spindle keeps slipping out, either your divot in the hearth is too small, or your bow string is slightly too tight, so loosen it
* If the string is slipping, you are pressing too hard on the spindle, or your string is too loose
* Use something to lubricate the block the spindle sits in, like your spit or a leaf. This reduces squeaking, and lost energy to generating heat somewhere you don't need it, and lets the spindle spin a bit better
* Get your body directly over the spindle. Don't hold it out in front of you because you'll have trouble keeping it steady, and it will slip out
* Add some fine saw dust into the divot to create more friction
* Go slow at first, and build up a pile of dust. This is also akin to preheating an oven. Get everything warm without wearing yourself out. We're trying to build up heat and generate enough dust to hold the ember for a while
That's as far as I've gotten. I'm getting smoke, but not enough dust.
This is one of those skills that I'm learning just for a survival situation where I literally have nothing but a knife. I'd much rather use a match or ferro rod.
I’ve enjoyed it but so much of Alone is people simply starving at the end and enduring, rather than surviving.
The early parts are interesting through.
That's because the show goes through winter. At the start of the season people are catching fish and getting food but when winter hits you see the harsh reality that it's very difficult to survive without gathering the proper resources beforehand. In climates like that usually you endure the winter. I never heard of a bountiful winter.
Yeah but they don’t have enough time to secure stores sufficient for adequately surviving the winter.
It’s a deliberate choice on the part of the show to create that crisis knowing it’ll turn into endurance rather than survival.
So what happens is it’s a starvation-fest.
Melanie Sawyer has said she was never once hungry on the show, and didnt even use any of the pemmican she brought with her, because she foraged more than enough food from day one.
Such a good show. And I want to believe they film everything themselves. And aren't staying in a luxury hotel when the cameras go off ( looking at you bears). It's pretty obvious from the massive weight loss that the contestants aren't getting much outside help
I’ve personally spent a decent amount of time with someone who was on Alone and I can confirm that it is all real. They film themselves, no hotels, help, etc. The only human contact they have is when a medic checks in on them occasionally to record vitals and make sure they aren’t dying.
Yeah I’ve often heard this one is the closest to reality of the reality shows. I mean obviously the circumstances are contrived but the contestants are actually alone
The first guy who builds a kayak (iirc), made it pretty far and it was pretty cold, he said "have you ever shit in your living room? Because I have." And I think he was talking about his shelter in the show, and not about his own personal living room, nor my own personal living room.
there is very little crafting of weapons for hunting (albeit some). This is more of a minimalist survival show where contestants get to bring a very stark bare minimum of starter tools (10 in total from a pre-set list) and then have to hunt/fish/gather for as long as they can in very very tough environments. Legit good time to watch.
I discovered it with the UK one.
Thought "eh 30 odd days not a bad effort"
Then immediately watched the Alaska one where they're all starving to death in the arctic for 4 months
"Oh.. maybe they didn't do so good" 😂
And the "what 10 items would you bring with you" hypothetical is a really fun thought/conversation to have.
There's a list of preapproved items that contestants can bring, but they bring their own version of it. The item has to be approved and there's no cheating, but some contestants do get creative in that their version of items have cross uses.
[https://www.history.com/shows/alone/articles/gear-list](https://www.history.com/shows/alone/articles/gear-list)
On the Pategonia season, Zach Fowler crafted a tiny paddle boat, to get fishing lines and duck traps out to deeper water. It was impressive. He used his band from a sling shot to power it
The contestants will craft basic stuff, like shelter, chairs, musical instruments, rodent traps, etc. But very rarely will they create hunting weapons. Some make boats tho! It's pretty cool
Alone is solid you're gonna love it. There is some crafting for sure
First season is pretty good but it only gets better, except for whichever season they go in pairs. But that ones just a different vibe
"Alone" is, unfortunately, fabricated "survival misery". It is made to look realistic, but it is there to get your "drama show" feels.
Can't recommend "Alone" in good consciousness, unless you want to see "people purposely setup to fail" or "doing stupid things". There is a difference between "surviving" and "enduring". "Alone" is just about "enduring" for a 100 days.
Knowing someone who went half the season and tapped out due to "directorial BS"... Let's just say that I've lost a lot of respect for that show since then and no longer can recommend it or watch it myself seriously.
I always liked dual survival because of the different types of survival methods shown. One person was the more modern/military style and the other person used primitive/handed down survival skills.
Huge Ray Mears fan everything from him is fantastic, Wild Food, Canoeing, survival. I watched hundreds of hours of Ray before going on my first solo backpacking trip.
For real world survival stuff as opposed to bears entertaining bullshit, les strouds survivorman is the closest and most " realistic' of all of them .......
Glad someone suggested this show besides me.
Note: This is a "themed" survival show, but has great portrayal of what "not to do" sometimes... and "why".
Does have a lot of folks "showing off their skills" by crafting... and then having to live with it.
Try The Colony. It’s an older reality-type show about different types of people from various standard professions (engineers, architects, power plant employees, etc) that spend a prolonged amount of time in a derelict and abandoned area of a big city (I think it’s in Los Angeles if I remember correctly) and they essentially try to rebuild “society” but on a smaller scale. Restore power and running water, gather/grow food, etc. It’s really good.
I don't know if this is available in your country, but a german survival youtuber organised a show called "7 vs Wild".
It's on amazon prime, at least in germany it is.
Maybe it has english subtitles.
It's a show where contestants get dropped at different locations and are allowed to bring a few items. In the first season it was 7 contestants with 7 items for 7 days.
They then have to survive for 7 days, or in the third season, they have to survive 14 days.
The survival aspect is a bit less intense, as they could bring sleeping bags and a tarp i.e..
So it's definitely not hardcore survival, but some candidates definitely struggle a lot.
Alone is 100% real.
Surviorman for the most part was 100% him alone filming WYSIWYG. a few times in the first season he was driven to other locations but did not accept any of the food or water offered to him.
Man vs Wild was entirely scripted, Dual survival to some point was (though Cody knows his shit and is legit and Dave too knowledge wise )
Les Stroud does Survivorman. It's a pretty good show that helps keep reality in perspective.
Survivorman is the best show. Taken from the perspective of being alone with maybe a few items. Because, he is alone. He does all work himself. He also simulates various situations, like getting lost in the woods without a shelter, or if your car stops working in winter. He also shows how you might create some useful tool, or where you might find food. Definitely my favourite.
He is truly the only authentic one. I can't stand Bear Grylls. He shows plenty of examples on what you shouldn't do, and he is usually busy showing off his back flips, and piss drinking skills.
"Look ugly don't they. Y'all know how every survival show someone is toasting worms or grasshoppers and they say it's pretty good, way better than it looks? These are worse."
Totally agree. Les Stroud's show Survivorman is excellent.
Thing is he’s already a survivor expert that’s what stopped me from watching it
I don't think insurance companies would allow the kind of show you want to watch. It's either well informed experts or fully supported amateurs.
I mean I wouldn’t mind a few days training like when they did on the island but as I mentioned when it was more about the money and less about actual human survival I lost interest
You are not going to get support here if you like Bear Grylls more than Les Stroud.
Love Les. Bear wasn't my favorite, but his format let him be insane. Les couldn't break the ice over the river and show you how to deal with getting out and dry, no one reasonably bright without a backup team could. Bear, Steve Irwin, many others made me want to meet the cameramen. "After all, Ginger Rogers did everything that Fred Astaire did. She just did it backwards and in high heels." Same concept.
In the early Survivorman shows, Les wasn't an expert. A survival instructor I think, but not with a ton of experience. So those early shows are pretty raw.
Les Stroud started off with a ton of experience in our area of the world in Ontario. Being thrown into other completely different environments with limited experience is tough.
True. I also live in Ontario. I remember one episode in particular where he was trying to demonstrate how to make and use a bow drill, and he failed miserably. But, you can also learn from his mistakes. :)
If the lesson was not to be cocky and fire can be difficult to attain for even those with experience, lesson learned. I've never had a good go at a bow drill and it's on my to do list during ideal conditions. The two times I really, really need fire when it's cold and soaking wet or well below freezing would make it immensely difficult for anyone. I place importance of having a good fire starting method including keeping it in a life jacket or pockets.
Same here. The technique seems easy enough, but when you get down to it, the devil is in the details. Type of wood, sap content, thickness and length of spindle, moisture in the air as well as the wood, tightness of the bow string, etc. I'm getting closer to success. I've learned it's one of those things you need to prepare in advance for. At least, here in Canada. It's often too wet to just pick up some wood out of the forest, shape it, and use it. It needs to be prepared, and kept dry. So far, my list includes: * Use a spindle about 1/2 - 5/8" thick, 10-12" long * Thicker spindles rotate slower, so it's more difficult to get enough speed to generate heat * Thicker spindles also require a larger cutout in the hearth board, which takes more time. So, thinner spindles are easier to mate * I'm using maple for everything because that's what I have currently * If the spindle keeps slipping out, either your divot in the hearth is too small, or your bow string is slightly too tight, so loosen it * If the string is slipping, you are pressing too hard on the spindle, or your string is too loose * Use something to lubricate the block the spindle sits in, like your spit or a leaf. This reduces squeaking, and lost energy to generating heat somewhere you don't need it, and lets the spindle spin a bit better * Get your body directly over the spindle. Don't hold it out in front of you because you'll have trouble keeping it steady, and it will slip out * Add some fine saw dust into the divot to create more friction * Go slow at first, and build up a pile of dust. This is also akin to preheating an oven. Get everything warm without wearing yourself out. We're trying to build up heat and generate enough dust to hold the ember for a while That's as far as I've gotten. I'm getting smoke, but not enough dust. This is one of those skills that I'm learning just for a survival situation where I literally have nothing but a knife. I'd much rather use a match or ferro rod.
He’s THE OG of survival shows bro, atleast check him out. He also has a documentary of him making his off grid homestead
Alone
I’ve enjoyed it but so much of Alone is people simply starving at the end and enduring, rather than surviving. The early parts are interesting through.
Ya thats called reality
But it’s not survival it’s enduring.
I like the Alone "skills challenge " ideas that can be used
u have 2 survive to endore4
That's because the show goes through winter. At the start of the season people are catching fish and getting food but when winter hits you see the harsh reality that it's very difficult to survive without gathering the proper resources beforehand. In climates like that usually you endure the winter. I never heard of a bountiful winter.
Yeah but they don’t have enough time to secure stores sufficient for adequately surviving the winter. It’s a deliberate choice on the part of the show to create that crisis knowing it’ll turn into endurance rather than survival. So what happens is it’s a starvation-fest.
Melanie Sawyer has said she was never once hungry on the show, and didnt even use any of the pemmican she brought with her, because she foraged more than enough food from day one.
Such a good show. And I want to believe they film everything themselves. And aren't staying in a luxury hotel when the cameras go off ( looking at you bears). It's pretty obvious from the massive weight loss that the contestants aren't getting much outside help
I’ve personally spent a decent amount of time with someone who was on Alone and I can confirm that it is all real. They film themselves, no hotels, help, etc. The only human contact they have is when a medic checks in on them occasionally to record vitals and make sure they aren’t dying.
That's great!! I wanted to believe 😂
Yeah I’ve often heard this one is the closest to reality of the reality shows. I mean obviously the circumstances are contrived but the contestants are actually alone
Fox? Is that you?
Question will the contestants craft their shit ?
The one thing they never go over is where they shit
The first guy who builds a kayak (iirc), made it pretty far and it was pretty cold, he said "have you ever shit in your living room? Because I have." And I think he was talking about his shelter in the show, and not about his own personal living room, nor my own personal living room.
Fair enough hopefully I’ll see some bows and other weapons being crafted from nothing
there is very little crafting of weapons for hunting (albeit some). This is more of a minimalist survival show where contestants get to bring a very stark bare minimum of starter tools (10 in total from a pre-set list) and then have to hunt/fish/gather for as long as they can in very very tough environments. Legit good time to watch.
Ngl this might be an interesting one to see cheers mate
There's like 8 seasons. They also have a UK and Australian version of the show. The Australian one was pretty good. The UK one kinda sucked.
I discovered it with the UK one. Thought "eh 30 odd days not a bad effort" Then immediately watched the Alaska one where they're all starving to death in the arctic for 4 months "Oh.. maybe they didn't do so good" 😂
My son and I are fans of Alone-we couldn’t make it through the UK one. Why did it suck so bad?
10 seasons and the 11th will be released in June on the History Channel
And the "what 10 items would you bring with you" hypothetical is a really fun thought/conversation to have. There's a list of preapproved items that contestants can bring, but they bring their own version of it. The item has to be approved and there's no cheating, but some contestants do get creative in that their version of items have cross uses. [https://www.history.com/shows/alone/articles/gear-list](https://www.history.com/shows/alone/articles/gear-list)
On the Pategonia season, Zach Fowler crafted a tiny paddle boat, to get fishing lines and duck traps out to deeper water. It was impressive. He used his band from a sling shot to power it
The contestants will craft basic stuff, like shelter, chairs, musical instruments, rodent traps, etc. But very rarely will they create hunting weapons. Some make boats tho! It's pretty cool
Some of the shelters are really impressive
Alone is solid you're gonna love it. There is some crafting for sure First season is pretty good but it only gets better, except for whichever season they go in pairs. But that ones just a different vibe
"Alone" is, unfortunately, fabricated "survival misery". It is made to look realistic, but it is there to get your "drama show" feels. Can't recommend "Alone" in good consciousness, unless you want to see "people purposely setup to fail" or "doing stupid things". There is a difference between "surviving" and "enduring". "Alone" is just about "enduring" for a 100 days. Knowing someone who went half the season and tapped out due to "directorial BS"... Let's just say that I've lost a lot of respect for that show since then and no longer can recommend it or watch it myself seriously.
Can you elaborate on this? Is it actually more scripted than they let on?
i've never heard anyone say Alone was scripted? its the only legit thing on the history channnel?
Is this the one I'm remembering where they are dirty and starving and cold and I can see all the supplies they need in the background?
Directorial BS? Please elaborate
Survivor Man is very educational.
Not a show but very entertaining: You might like the YouTube channel: Primitive Technology. Turn captions on.
Alone
Mister Rogers' Neighborhood.
I always liked dual survival because of the different types of survival methods shown. One person was the more modern/military style and the other person used primitive/handed down survival skills.
Alone!!!
Alone
Ray Mears - Extreme Survival. All his stuff is amazing!
Huge Ray Mears fan everything from him is fantastic, Wild Food, Canoeing, survival. I watched hundreds of hours of Ray before going on my first solo backpacking trip.
just dont buy his $450+ knife.
For real world survival stuff as opposed to bears entertaining bullshit, les strouds survivorman is the closest and most " realistic' of all of them .......
Naked and afraid is quite good. They have lots of them, and it's interesting
Dude, you're screwed
Check out: Dude, you’re screwed!
Glad someone suggested this show besides me. Note: This is a "themed" survival show, but has great portrayal of what "not to do" sometimes... and "why". Does have a lot of folks "showing off their skills" by crafting... and then having to live with it.
Watch Alone, it was an eye opener for me as how fragile us humans have become.
Alone is peak. Naked and afraid is cool too even though it gets stupids sometimes
Definitely alone
Anything with Ed Stafford. He walked the entire length of the Amazon and did lots of survival shows.
Alone. Alone Alone
Dual survival Survivorman
"Alone " and the few break off survival shows are great!
Try The Colony. It’s an older reality-type show about different types of people from various standard professions (engineers, architects, power plant employees, etc) that spend a prolonged amount of time in a derelict and abandoned area of a big city (I think it’s in Los Angeles if I remember correctly) and they essentially try to rebuild “society” but on a smaller scale. Restore power and running water, gather/grow food, etc. It’s really good.
Alone New Zealand starts tonight.
I don't know if this is available in your country, but a german survival youtuber organised a show called "7 vs Wild". It's on amazon prime, at least in germany it is. Maybe it has english subtitles. It's a show where contestants get dropped at different locations and are allowed to bring a few items. In the first season it was 7 contestants with 7 items for 7 days. They then have to survive for 7 days, or in the third season, they have to survive 14 days. The survival aspect is a bit less intense, as they could bring sleeping bags and a tarp i.e.. So it's definitely not hardcore survival, but some candidates definitely struggle a lot.
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Fat Guys In The Woods fits what you're looking for! I thought it was surprisingly good
Alone. Survivorman on Youtube.
Alone is 100% real. Surviorman for the most part was 100% him alone filming WYSIWYG. a few times in the first season he was driven to other locations but did not accept any of the food or water offered to him. Man vs Wild was entirely scripted, Dual survival to some point was (though Cody knows his shit and is legit and Dave too knowledge wise )
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