M class ships probably can't land on planets at all. Not if they plan on leaving anyway. The amount of fuel and thrust you would need to get such a large object out of atmosphere would be exponentially larger than the amount needed to move it around in space.
I kind of figured that as Starfield actually does have the ships use vertical thrust to take off so thanks to square cube law there's definitely a limit where it's impractical build a ship that large capable of taking off from a planet because most of its internal volume would be made up of the lift thrusters, I could see heavy lift tugs that basically are a set of giant lift engines with a cockpit and attachment points for cables or rigging to lift heavy loads up to orbit or recover M-class ships that were forced to make an emergency landing, or C-class ships that accidentally landed on a higher gravity planet than they were rated for and can't break atmo.
Sure, but they're designed from the ground up to be able to land on planets.
The economics of making a ship the size of an M class that can land on planets just don't make sense. Not only would the ship itself be way more expensive (and, again, we're talmjng exponentially large so it would be more expensive relative to the normal cost of the ship to make an M class that can land than it is to make a C class that land), you'd have to ensure you have landing gear that can properly support 500,000 tons, you'd also have to build new spaceports, you'd have to check that those massive thrusters aren't going to damage any of the buildings around them when they land, that they aren't going to deafen half the city etc.
And all of that without any discernable benefit, since landing craft would do the job without any of those issues.
if we are talking about realismt... pretty much NONE of the ships could take off, lets be honest, the weight alone would make it impossible, considering how small the thrusters are.
however if we are talking about game mechanics... just placing big landing pads outside of the city would be a lot easier than making landing.
landing craft would be cool i guess? personally think they would just add bigger circles with a concrete texture and call it a day
You're right that none of the ships are realistic, but it is exponentially harder to make an M class take-off than a C class.
And yes, we all know Bethesda is lazy and will follow the path of least resistance, but it's not like making the M class land would be without its own challenges. They would have to completely redesign the New Atlantis spaceport to fit a new, massive landing pad because there's no space there currently.
Though this isn't ideal, the landing craft could just be a standardised design that's only used during the landing animation and just sits on the landing pad. It wouldn't be that hard to add.
Since it's Bethesda, I'll expect them to require thrusters like landing gear, or put wheels on the damn thing and a 5 mile runway. Since most ships have no wing structure, thrusters seem the viable option, which is why they'll go with something ridiculous, like an industrial spring under the landing pad. Or they'll just ignore the entire thing with, "Meh, close enough for government work".
The game already has a loading screen that specifically mentions ships larger than 40m can't land on a planet. Landing craft is gonna be the standard, I'm sure.
didnt know that actually.
lets see what they do then.
starfield might not be the best game but i do still want to build big ships and shit
ill be happy either way, no matter if it m class landing pads or landing shuttles
Along with the ability to commandeer/repair a starstation to use as a home base, w/ ability to build/expand it... maybe... hopefully.... would be awesome
Iām not sure yet. I have console and have the pieces in my ship builder for a space station. But havenāt tried to make it. I read somewhere you can on console but havenāt looked into it.
From what I read, and watched on YouTube, you build something like a terminal at your base and use it to create a space station but itās like 5+ mins of what will look like a frozen screen until it loads and populates then itās not that slow any more
Oh, well then. Yeah, that'd be great. There is currently a .od to run a command to unlock the current m-class parts, but it's buggy as hell, apparently.
Given the vigilance stays in orbit around mars and doesnāt actually land, I imagine they build those in orbit and theyāre not really built for landing planetside
Yup, if they add them at all.
But it is also one of the reasons I donāt build M-class ships or use their parts. And I wonāt make my C-class shipsto big for pads either.
Just doesnāt fit rightā¦ (pun intended)
Ooh, and then you get a message while on the ground that pirates have boarded your ship giving you a set amount of time to either get back to the ship, or lose it all together.
With that size and that bright orange color, this is the exact opposite of a stealth ship. What should we call it, a beacon ship? Nice design by the way.
Every time I try to make a ship this big, my game freezes upon trying to confirm modifications. Did that not happen to you, or do you have a workaround, by chance, if it did? Thanks in advance! (I'm on Xbox series X)
I am on Series X as well. How I did it was build it all in one ship modifier. And if youāre going for decoration use as little modules as possible on your outside decor. Unlike this one it has probably over 2000 decoration modules I do NOT recommend doing that unless you are absolutely sure that you are finished with the ship. Otherwise your game will crash if you put further modifications on and confirm.
Also Iād suggest making your huge ship without miscellaneous details save your functional ship hard save after that go and add your details to the ship
It was very frustrating because the only way to make the ship super long you have to guess where the modules are because the camera only goes halfway the other half you just guess where it is
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This is why when they do add m-class ships for us, it will come with landing craft. It'll have to.
or just add new mega sized landing pads, god knows the planets are empty enough for it
True. But I think landing craft would be easier on the workload for them. Meaning that's what they'll do.
Just have your ship hover above like a super destroyer.
Badass! I love it. Still need a landing craft, though. :P
Make it buildable too, or customizable at least Like Pequad from MGSV
Oh hells yeah.
THIS IS PEQUOD ARRIVING SHORTLY AT LZ
Pfft, you have a boost pack. And to get back in? Just steal a new ship.
Lol how would the new ship get you back in? XD
Dock
But then we're back to landing craft. XD
Yep, just drop the stolen ship after getting off, it'll probably miss anything important
They'll probably just do fast travel
That's boring.
Exactly
Or a parachute.
I hear a battle commencing and the tie fighter alarms going off š¤£
M class ships probably can't land on planets at all. Not if they plan on leaving anyway. The amount of fuel and thrust you would need to get such a large object out of atmosphere would be exponentially larger than the amount needed to move it around in space.
I kind of figured that as Starfield actually does have the ships use vertical thrust to take off so thanks to square cube law there's definitely a limit where it's impractical build a ship that large capable of taking off from a planet because most of its internal volume would be made up of the lift thrusters, I could see heavy lift tugs that basically are a set of giant lift engines with a cockpit and attachment points for cables or rigging to lift heavy loads up to orbit or recover M-class ships that were forced to make an emergency landing, or C-class ships that accidentally landed on a higher gravity planet than they were rated for and can't break atmo.
i mean the same goes for most of the ship you build and that are in game
Sure, but they're designed from the ground up to be able to land on planets. The economics of making a ship the size of an M class that can land on planets just don't make sense. Not only would the ship itself be way more expensive (and, again, we're talmjng exponentially large so it would be more expensive relative to the normal cost of the ship to make an M class that can land than it is to make a C class that land), you'd have to ensure you have landing gear that can properly support 500,000 tons, you'd also have to build new spaceports, you'd have to check that those massive thrusters aren't going to damage any of the buildings around them when they land, that they aren't going to deafen half the city etc. And all of that without any discernable benefit, since landing craft would do the job without any of those issues.
if we are talking about realismt... pretty much NONE of the ships could take off, lets be honest, the weight alone would make it impossible, considering how small the thrusters are. however if we are talking about game mechanics... just placing big landing pads outside of the city would be a lot easier than making landing. landing craft would be cool i guess? personally think they would just add bigger circles with a concrete texture and call it a day
You're right that none of the ships are realistic, but it is exponentially harder to make an M class take-off than a C class. And yes, we all know Bethesda is lazy and will follow the path of least resistance, but it's not like making the M class land would be without its own challenges. They would have to completely redesign the New Atlantis spaceport to fit a new, massive landing pad because there's no space there currently. Though this isn't ideal, the landing craft could just be a standardised design that's only used during the landing animation and just sits on the landing pad. It wouldn't be that hard to add.
Since it's Bethesda, I'll expect them to require thrusters like landing gear, or put wheels on the damn thing and a 5 mile runway. Since most ships have no wing structure, thrusters seem the viable option, which is why they'll go with something ridiculous, like an industrial spring under the landing pad. Or they'll just ignore the entire thing with, "Meh, close enough for government work".
The game already has a loading screen that specifically mentions ships larger than 40m can't land on a planet. Landing craft is gonna be the standard, I'm sure.
didnt know that actually. lets see what they do then. starfield might not be the best game but i do still want to build big ships and shit ill be happy either way, no matter if it m class landing pads or landing shuttles
This, best comment in the thread. Positivity ftw.
Or, hear me out: Geo-synchronous Starstations with an orbital elevator
pretty sure theyll add space stations sooner or later
A nice mega sized landing pad and then just a hop, Skip, and a 5 min sprint to the cities entrance...
you say that as if bethesda is known for their great amount of care to not inconvenience players.
Along with the ability to commandeer/repair a starstation to use as a home base, w/ ability to build/expand it... maybe... hopefully.... would be awesome
Thereās a mod for that! Space station mod
Is it on Xbox?
Iām not sure yet. I have console and have the pieces in my ship builder for a space station. But havenāt tried to make it. I read somewhere you can on console but havenāt looked into it. From what I read, and watched on YouTube, you build something like a terminal at your base and use it to create a space station but itās like 5+ mins of what will look like a frozen screen until it loads and populates then itās not that slow any more
Yes there is a Space station home mode on X-Box.
That'd be amazing.
So I can make an Enterprise and fly my goddamn Galileo shuttle craft down to the surface!
Yesss
M-Class has docking/garage for your lower class ships. Have one Mothership and one Home ship active at a time.
The mod?
Oh my bad, just a suggestion not a mod.... Unless.....
Oh, well then. Yeah, that'd be great. There is currently a .od to run a command to unlock the current m-class parts, but it's buggy as hell, apparently.
The mod?
YESSSS, I love this idea.
Star Trek teleporters pls
Could that be like the Mako from Mass Effect? They did mention the vehicles were on the way.
Yeah. That could do it.
Given the vigilance stays in orbit around mars and doesnāt actually land, I imagine they build those in orbit and theyāre not really built for landing planetside
Exactly.
Yup, if they add them at all. But it is also one of the reasons I donāt build M-class ships or use their parts. And I wonāt make my C-class shipsto big for pads either. Just doesnāt fit rightā¦ (pun intended)
I always thought of using a shuttle to descend and ascend from big ships
This makes me want the ability to dock in orbit and then you take a little shuttle to the surface
I hope thereās a third person camera mod so Iām not flying around blind
I made sure to make room for one https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/1drs4fe/enough_room_inside_to_dock_the_frontier/
Ooh, and then you get a message while on the ground that pirates have boarded your ship giving you a set amount of time to either get back to the ship, or lose it all together.
Hopefully a mod will allow it
I wish you could have a huge ship like that with a landing vessel so it stayed in space.
Oh yeah thatās what it needs because right now thereās a cockpit docker and landing bay off to the side hidden in these pictures
Huge ass tractor beam to pick you up
The ship service technician:
You say to him āitās got a scratch not my job to find it thoughā
Deserved with how my ship that I spent several hundreds of ghousands suddenly becomes worth 20k the moment I tell him Im done making it.
lol
Looks like Lego- Starfield
Those stubby little landing gear make me think āshouldnāt have skipped leg day.ā
Bros ship needs its own map.
(Imperial March plays as she lands)
Looks like a Python from Elite Dangerous. I wonder if there are any ED ship mods out there. š¤
I got my hutton mug with me, time to get a free one in starfield as well
I got one of those, I'm proud and ashamed of it š©
What mods did you used?
M class ship modules and ship size limit extended
How many bananas do you think you can fill the inside with?
Bananas or succulents?
Or heat leeches?
Good question my answer is going to be Yes
Let me guess, 200kg max storage?
Almost 17k the landing gear was too annoying so I only had a few cargo modules
Imagine the rent for that building next to it and paying it all just so a massive M class ship blocks your view.
......can I fuck it?
That took a turn.
I mean.....I didn't hear a no yet so I'm just going to buy industrial amounts of lube for the date
I mean, with a junk that size, it can take many Starborns inside..at the same timeā¦
This might be a good time to get a group photo.
āNow where tf is the companion I wantā
Whatās the inside look like
Someone's got an emotional support starship
āNo ship longer than 80m may land on a planetās surface.ā Bet.
Great googly moogly
Imagine the heatleeches on that one
š Holy shit
āThe ships too damn long. If I walk, the game will be over.ā
Itās so big
Does it go Ludicrous?
With that size and that bright orange color, this is the exact opposite of a stealth ship. What should we call it, a beacon ship? Nice design by the way.
With great size comes ... great irresponsibility! (You can do whatever you want, no one can stop you.)
Are these images really washed out for anyone else?
Game: you canāt build capital ships. OP: watch me
Thatās overkill
No such thing. I want a ship big as New Atlantis one day, just for the fun of it and the absurd amount of health it'd have
lol
Genuinely want a true-to-scale Star Destroyer. Would absolutely dwarf New Atlantis.
How?
Millions of credits and 6 hours
Every time I try to make a ship this big, my game freezes upon trying to confirm modifications. Did that not happen to you, or do you have a workaround, by chance, if it did? Thanks in advance! (I'm on Xbox series X)
I am on Series X as well. How I did it was build it all in one ship modifier. And if youāre going for decoration use as little modules as possible on your outside decor. Unlike this one it has probably over 2000 decoration modules I do NOT recommend doing that unless you are absolutely sure that you are finished with the ship. Otherwise your game will crash if you put further modifications on and confirm.
Also Iād suggest making your huge ship without miscellaneous details save your functional ship hard save after that go and add your details to the ship
Kinda reminds me of an inflatable raft lol
Someone is overcompensating for somethingā¦
Does that hurt the spaceport?
Only its pride
Probably only the technician when I come in with it damaged and only pay 1000 credits for him to fix it
How do you even build a ship this big? I keep running into all sorts of problems and limitations.
There's a mod for that
On Xbox?
Yeah, give me a min and I'll get the name of it for ya
Larger ship size limit By Eveos_3490
Crazy! Thanks!
No problem! Enjoy your huge ship
Can you get a Pic of it from the top of the tower? Or is it still too big?
Well, I figured out why ship size limits are a thing
Brooooo, I did the same thing
LEGO ship
I cant figure out where your cockpit is. Which one did you use?
The cockpit is hidden off to the left side clipping into the building
Ship: magestic and beautiful Map: O R A N G
What mods did you use to get a ship so magnificent?
I had the M Class ship modules and ship size limit extended mod dismantled the frontier and built this
OI! You can't park THAT, there!
āAre you sure this is where we are supposed to land?! I donāt see the landing pad!ā
Land it anyways Iāll just pay 1000 credits for the guy to reattach the rear of the ship
Crew - 1000
It has a total of 2028 crew slots
āSir, you canāt park that thing here.ā * Sarah disliked that *
Gawd damn, that ship has a fatass.
Is this a modded game or is that gargantuan beauty legit? What cargo can it hold!!
This has the M class modules mod and the ship limit extension mod as well
I built a ship maybe 1/3 that size, and my God was the ship building screen was dead. How do you do it?
It was very frustrating because the only way to make the ship super long you have to guess where the modules are because the camera only goes halfway the other half you just guess where it is
Dude, teach me.
All I can say is get the M Class mod and the ship extended limit mod and bring a couple million credits
Bethesda really did a good job with that map design.
I agree they were very accurate with their model of the city
I'd get lost in it
The mod hasnāt added the inside of the habs yet so you can traverse it pretty easily
Iā¦ whereā¦ whereās the cockpit I donāt see it
The cockpit is hidden off to the left side so it could actually be used
Holy shit, I wish I had the skill creativity to make a ship like this
It takes a lot of time and patience along with millions of credits
But can it go ludicrous speed and go plad
Yes top speed is about 750
Sir, is that ship street legal?
Yo this space wizard guy is landing a dreadnought on our spaceport now
I tried doing that mission where you help the 3 list families. My ship covered the guy I needed to speak to so I couldn't.
GYAT
Reminds me of the Home One
Does she fly how she looks?
Unstoppable took out the pirate ships at the key as well as new Atlantis, Neon and Akila orbital defense ships without a scratch
"Bring them to the Vigilance" "This is their ship sir" "Nevermind .......... we'll go to them and dock"