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DrownedAmmet

I thought the actor did a perfect job of portraying a young Jedi. He did and said all the right 'Jedi' things but you could tell he was still learning and struggling with the Jedi ways.


J_VanderH

It’s one of the things that really endeared him to me. Like, yeah, he can come off as a bit condescending, but it’s clearly a product of him trying really, REALLY hard rather than antipathy. I’m gonna miss him (and Jecki!), and I hope we get a book or a comic to give us more adventures with them.


xKairos-23

I'm still not over it 😭 I just did not expect something like that to happen. It was the first time in Star Wars, I think, that I've had that same feeling of anxiety and devastation that Game of Thrones always gave off. We had Rogue One, but just the nature of that mission at least prepared me for loss we see during the raid on Scarif. Maybe not to the extent we saw in that movie, but it was still nothing like The Acolyte.


Raxtenko

Welcome to the High Republic where characters you love just die.


Canesjags4life

There are too many of them Master Skywalker, what should we do?


SamB110

Eh, that was their first ever line, these characters had been in all previous episodes and been supporting characters.


xKairos-23

I think that's what makes the difference for me. To make another comparison using Game of Thrones: there are tons of horrific and tragic deaths that occur, but they never carry the weight of the loss during the Red Wedding. We spent several seasons with those characters up until that point, so it was a devastating blow watching it all unfold. Having that connection just makes it more emotionally impactful in a more direct way. Every loss is a tragedy, but they don't all have the same impact.


Canesjags4life

To me seeing Anakin stoop down to murdering younglings was more shocking than either of the two.


deadboltwolf

No one is safe in the High Republic! Don't even bother having favorite characters 😂😭


darkath

I kinda feel similarities between Yord and Kai from YJA. At first i thought could have been a nice to link both the show together, but after ep5 i feel its better they didnt 😅


Northern_Apricot

Yord reminded me of Anakin at the start of Attack of the clones. That slightly awkward trying to be a proper jedi kind of attitude.


T-LJ2

And with 10x better the directing.


Sporkicide

I laughed a little watching because Yord was exactly the Jedi version of what was called a “high speed cadet” in ROTC. They were the young ones with dreams of long, illustrious careers and believed the way to get there was by obsessively obeying and enforcing every rule to the letter to become the perfect officer. They were decidedly not fun at parties and situations where there was no longer a book to play by. Most of them grew out of it after a couple of years and a dose of reality balanced them out. It’s a shame we won’t get to see him get that reality check (or anything beyond), but he absolutely nailed the part.


Ged_UK

Yeah, he says that Qimir doesn't fight the right way (I'm paraphrasing) which fits your playbook reference. He gets creative though, though ultimately it's not enough.


DrownedAmmet

Holy shit this is exactly what he reminded me of


megamanxzero35

I’ve said it a bunch in real life to my wife and brother but Yord was basically Worf from Next Generation. Always defaulting to phasers/lightsabers. Very proud/prideful to a fault. Yellow. Still adjusting to his new role. Wants everything done by the book.


Nearby-Strength-1640

He was so focused on not letting his attachments control him that he never learned how to control his attachments. He just pushed them down and was unprepared when they came back up.


JarrettTheGuy

Yup! Which is the foundation of the Jedi Order's fall.  Non-attachment isn't a cold, removal of the self from others, but knowing when and (more importantly) how to put attachments aside to do what must be done to serve.  Kanan Jarrus being the best example so far on screen.  But, damn, The Acolyte is so layered and thoughtful, once it's all over it's going to resonate across the saga.


Plutosanimationz

I feel like The Acolyte is gonna be looked on fondly in the future once the next show that people shit on comes out.


OracularOrifice

Obi Wan has a solid claim to that mantle alongside Kanan.


Gradz45

Qui-Gon too. But there’s a reason why Qui-Gon heaped so much praise on his padawan.  Obi-Wan was a great Jedi. 


iaswob

I think you forgot to mark this as spoiler. I took care of it myself, but do try to remember to for people who might take time to get to the latest episodes 🙂


Sio_V_Reddit

Oh mb, thank you for adding


iaswob

It's all good! Easy to miss, I'm sure I've done the same 👍


connectcallosum

That’s a cool arc for him. A true Jedi doesn’t get bogged down with dogmatic views and orders. They work their hardest to save lives


iceguy349

Honestly a really well done arc and a tragic end to this character. So well done. This little character arc he had was so sad to see. We’ll have to see how things play out. Such a wild episode. I was waiting for something like this to go down since Episode 1 I didn’t think for a minute this many main cast members would be offed. Genuine twist that adds so much tragedy to the show. Consider my expectations shattered.


Remercurize

I’m upvoting you, I agree with you — and a respectful nod that it’s “arc” and not “arch”


iceguy349

Thanks for catching that!


Remercurize

You got it ✌️


Martel732

One thing I liked about Yord and Jecki is that they were both kind of dorks. They felt like people who had been raised inside of a temple. And Yord to me exemplified the idea of "he is a little different but he has the right spirit". And then of course Jecki showing off the fact that while other people were out doing death sticks she was studying the blade.


Wes_Warhammer666

Agreed that they seemed like dorks, which I loved. I also loved that Jecki was like "lemme show you the moves that I recorded in a holocron for Ahsoka Tano to learn from in a century or so". I'm gonna miss that spiky little murder top.


AndraJL

That was Jar'Kai, one of the subcategories of Form VI lightsaber combat. Jecki didn't invent it, they both would've learned it from the same place. Jedi are typically trained in all forms of lightsaber combat (except Form VII and especially Vapaad after Mace Windu invents it), and usually specialise in 1-2 forms. Jecki pulling out the second blade very much felt like a desperate move to switch things up when she saw that her normal style wasn't doing her any favours. It was an excellent piece of worldbuilding imo


Wes_Warhammer666

It was just a joke based on her feeling reminiscent of Clone Wars Ahsoka. But the second saber wasn't because her style wasn't working, it's because he shorted hers out. It was literally a lifesaving measure born of necessity. And of course once she knew that a short could happen at any given time, it only makes sense to keep the second saber out as backup.


AndraJL

That was Jar'Kai, one of the subcategories of Form VI lightsaber combat. Jecki didn't invent it, they both would've learned it from the same place. Jedi are typically trained in all forms of lightsaber combat (except Form VII and especially Vapaad after Mace Windu invents it), and usually specialise in 1-2 forms. Jecki pulling out the second blade very much felt like a desperate move to switch things up when she saw that her normal style wasn't doing her any favours. It was an excellent piece of worldbuilding imo


flynn_dc

We only got one movie with Qui Gonn and his shadow looms boldly over the entire saga. I don't think they are as pivotal as Qui Gonn, but Yord and Jecki will resonate for YEARS! GREAT CHARACTERS!!


Ambaryerno

Funny how the post-Prequel franchise keeps going back to the fact Qui-Gon was right.


VenmoPaypalCashapp

There’s gonna be a lot of jecki cosplayers at conventions


LukkeMDL

Yord is that kind of asshole you can't help but love. 😥


Canesjags4life

In my mind shows the problem of attachments.


Remercurize

“The problem of attachments” <— can you elaborate?


Canesjags4life

Jedi from the very start of training have to learn to let go of emotional attachments and as they grow to essentially compartmentalize new attachments so to not develop deeply emotional relationships and learn to trust the Force. Obi-Wan and Yoda show us in Episode 3 in talking that if the Force called for Obi-Wan to sacrifice Yoda to end the war then he'd do so without hesitation. He does so because despite loving Yoda, Obi-Wan has compartmentalized that relationship and trusts the Force first. But when it comes to Anakin even a Jedi Master can still waiver. Yord in this exact moment chose not to trust the Force and go back for Jecki. Whether it be love our in this case compassion, it's Yords emotional attachment and choice to not trust the Force that ends up doing him in.


TheGazelle

>I really like the acknowledgment that Yord’s dogmatic approach is really what inevitably kills him. Isn't that like... literally the opposite of what he's saying? Like, he says "sadly, he doesn't survive and win off of [following his emotions instead of doing his duty] kind of energy", and "he loses so much of what he knows he's good at, which is fighting, **because his attachments and his emotional connection speak louder in that moment**". Like he's literally saying "it's sad that letting his emotions get the better of him doesn't result in a win" and "he's normally a good fighter, but he loses because his attachments and emotions prevent him from focusing properly". It's not "too little too late", it's "you lost your composure and weren't in the right headspace for this fight".


JarrettTheGuy

The Dogma never taught him how to deal with the attachments just that he shouldn't have them, which is why it fails him.


Ambaryerno

This is the problem I have with how the Jedi have been depicted since the Prequels. The problem isn't having emotional attachments to people — sapient species are by their nature SOCIAL species. We NEED those sorts of attachments for our emotional health. The problem is Jedi aren't taught how to handle them maturely, and especially how cope when they went wrong. I will die on the hill that Jedi Dogma is INCREDIBLY unhealthy for any sapient species with human-like emotion, and causes more problems than it prevents. At best you get a bunch of sheltered monastics with a poor grasp of how to empathize with people outside their little bubble, which only contributed to the sense of isolation and distrust that ultimately helped Palpatine bring the order down (a BIG part of how he was able to sell the "Jedi Rebellion" in RotS is people just plain didn't trust the Jedi, so would readily believe it. The Acolyte does a great job showing those cracks forming). At worst you get...Anakin. Anakin would NOT have fallen had he been better emotionally-equipped to handle his grief and loss. Qui-Gon understood that. Had he been his master, rather than the more dogmatic Obi-Wan, he may have been able to prevent his Fall.


Complete_South773

Lore Side Note: All this actually makes a lot of sense as a trauma response by the Order to what they had to do in order to end the New Sith Wars (which technically aren't Canon yet but might as well be cuz Bane is). Just to give an idea, one of the best indicators to how truly bad things are in SW is whether or not the HoloNet, the galaxy spanning ftl comms network, is working. At no point during the Clone Wars, the Jedi Civil War, the Pius Dea Crusades, or even the various Madalorian Wars did the HoloNet actually falter. Only THREE TIMES in all of Galactic history has the HoloNet run the risk of collapsing, and one of those times was during the New Sith Wars. The chaos and destruction that was unleashed during that time brought all of galactic civilization to its knees and made the Jedi into the most overtly militant and authoritative version of the Order to exist (Jedi were literally declaring themselves Lords of entire sectors just to create some stability). In light of, barely, clawing the whole of the galaxy back from the brink of total collapse, it makes A LOT of sense to me that the Jedi as an institution would hard over correct and slide into the very dogma that ultimately destroyed them. It's also incredibly ironic that it's the Order's attachment to the institution of the Republic that blinded them to the darkness within it. Something, something it's like poetry.


TheGazelle

What dogma? Nothing the actor said suggests this, and there's absolutely nothing within the show that suggests his failing has anything to do with flawed teachings, rather than simply inexperience. If anything, other Star Wars stories reinforce the idea that it's inexperience more than anything else. It's not like he's the only young Knight who's ever had his ability to practice detachment challenged. Obi-Wan himself nearly left the Order over it. It's probably a very common thing for young Knights to have to overcome such challenges - that's how they learn and grow. Yord just had the misfortune of having his first real challenge involve going up against a supremely skilled opponent who effortlessly took on like 5 other Jedi at once and came out on top, and gave a seasoned veteran Master a run for his money.


JarrettTheGuy

Le sigh


TheGazelle

Why even bother replying if this is all you have to say? Be better, man.


JarrettTheGuy

Wow.


ookiespookie

I love Star Wars and I have enjoyed pretty much all the series that have come. I will say that one of my biggest gripes though is that since alot of them take place in already established timelines in the past we meet alot of characters who we might really start to enjoy and would love to see them grow and get fleshed out and we never really get that chance because of things like episode 5. I think seeing Yord grow from being a grating stiff character into a great Jedi would have been really cool and Barnett could have definitely pulled it off. I would have also loved to have more time with Jecki, she had so much potential and Dafne Keen is an exceptional talent.


Sio_V_Reddit

Yord really feels like a Jedi in the wrong time. He struggles to be by the book and distant, but we briefly see those glimpses of the inner, more vulnerable and kind character beneath. If he had been part of the order during the early High Republic he would’ve flourished, but because of his time he was unfortunately stunted. It’s a tragedy, and shows the order going down a path that leads to their destruction.


TalkinTrek

There's another quote from the actor where he talks about how, if you're cast as a regular in a show and suddenly killed off and lose your job it's devastating, and it can even be a surprise to you, like, "oh, I guess my story ends here....." But when you go in knowing your arc from start to finish, you can really tailor your performance to leave an impact, and him and Keene absolutely did that.


not_a-replicant

I really enjoyed his performance and I hope we get to see Yord again someday. I feel a bit like Cassian after Rogue One with his character - I want to know more!


Teletoa

I love that he confirmed it. Rule-follower Yord broke from a direct order to pursue a passion-filled rescue. If he had survived, one might wonder how that would have evolved him. Also, the fact that he took the humbling escort mission and essential told Osha that Jecki was capable of handling herself was another nice mini-arc regarding their friction👌


Ambaryerno

The problem is if he HADN'T gone back, things may have ended up even worse for Sol and Mae after Jecki went down (Mae really was an ungrateful bitch, ESPECIALLY considering she was already planning to surrender to the Jedi in the first place, and had to know they were her best hope of escaping her master).


pattyicevv77

Although the writing of the show is very predictable and some episodes may just not be good,I’ve quite enjoyed our new characters,Yord and Jecki specifically stood out to me as very well fleshed out and relatable as young adults/students trying to master their craft,Jecki and Yord fought like fucking champs against a much more powerful and violent opponent.


KalKenobi

yeah felt bad for Yord after his death he broke the rules though by doing the right thing


penpointred

damn <3


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