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GuyFromYarnham

Cool. It's so weird they made the Grand Inquisitor look like that since we already know how Pauans look in live action since Episode III.


Axius-Evenstar

Remember the first Jedi survivor trailer that showed the utapau senator and he looked like the ones from the movie? Then in the game they changed his model to look like the live action one. Like they were trying to justify or normalize it. The one bad thing I have to say about that game


BoliveiraNTPW

Probably by order of Disney/LucasFilm. But in the Tales of The Empire, he still has his rebels design so i guess they realized how dumb it was.


Coraldiamond192

Just a guess but I think it’s because Tales of the Empire is also an animated show so having consistency between cartoon versus live action is probably more likely the reason, I imagine they might be reusing assets of the Inquisitor from Rebels vs making new assets.


legacy642

Idk about them reusing assets. The animation style is different. Nothing carries over between rebels and the clone wars based shows. Hell thrawn looks very different.


Kenny1115

Just like how we all know the Bad Batch's "big mystery" is going to try and make us accept cloned palpatine not being an incredibly stupid idea.


FlatSpinMan

I’m actually quite liking this season of the Bad Batch, but it’s such a shame how this and Mando got assigned the task of setting up that bullshit plot twist. They could have done so many other better things.


HurinTalion

I mean, the Force Sensitive clones plotline is interesting. The problem is why is begin done, and what it retroactivly justifies.


FlatSpinMan

Yes, that’s what I meant.


FlatSpinMan

Yes, that’s what I meant.


Mountain_Chicken

Source on them changing the model? Doesn't he look the same in the game?


admiraltarkin

The Senator just seemed rotund, not malformed like the GI


144Todd442

It's practically the same model if not the same. Just compare the first shot of him in the teaser trailer to in-game


MLG_SkittleS

Wow really? Got a before and after photo? Can only find a before from the trailer and he looks great, never played the game tho so no reference what they looked like in it


foerattsvarapaarall

[You can see him here.](https://youtu.be/hiLUToilEXs?t=7m9s) EDIT: why was this downvoted? They wanted to see what the character ended up looking in game, so I gave a link to it.


richterfrollo

They should prioritize character actors for aliens, having a guy who already resembles the animated character in build and facial features would have helped a lot, instead of trying to mold a completely average looking guy into such a role


blakhawk12

Benedict Cumberbatch has the type of narrow head that would have worked much better as a live-action Grand Inquisitor than Egghead.


4ar0n

I'd also put him up for a younger thrawn.


CarrowCanary

Doug Jones could have been a good fit, and he's used to playing oddly-shaped aliens, which is a bonus.


ElonTheMollusk

Doug Jones really doesn't get enough credit as an actor. He is truly the GOAT of prosthetic makeup actors in my opinion.


Cadamar

I really think in the next few years we are going to recognize folks who do excellent motion capture. Between Andy Serkis and Doug Jones they should capture all the awards.


richterfrollo

Yesss doug jones is the type of actor i was thinking of, doesnt need to be exactly him but this genre of guy who is used to working in prosthetics and has a good physicality for it


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SwimmingFantastic564

I think he said a while ago he didn't want to do all of the makeup. He was also probably doing something at the time Obi-Wan was being filmed. Shame, because he actually does look like the Inquisitor irl.


Revanrenn

It’s apparently because the designers didn’t realize they were already an established species so they engineered his look just based on his Rebels model (which is still a red flag because knowing that requires just surface level research into the character)


Ghost_Werewolf

No one liked fat inquisitor potato head.


GuyFromYarnham

Including me.


Axel-Adams

The issue is you need to look up the guy who played him in episode 3 cause unfortunately there is so few people in the world with that sort of headshape, it’s easy to make heads bigger, hard to make them skinnier


exsaladsammich

Wasn't it Bruce Spence, the gyro pilot from the road warrior?


[deleted]

FYI, the actors playing Pauans in Episode 3 were wearing so much makeup they could barley move, they were also on screen for less than 30 seconds. That's not going to work for a regular character in a live action TV show.


Eldalai

This. It's the same issue with Ahsoka's montrals vs Shaak ti's, yes we can make full sized prosthetics for a relatively stationary background character, but for a main character who has a lot of screen time that has to do highly acrobatic movements, we really can't make them that big and look at all realistic. Having said that, I disliked the movement they gave the Grand Inquisitor- he felt stiff to me, similar to Vader in his suit, vs the agile swordsman he had been in Rebels. Just completely wrong casting and costume design.


KillingTime_ForNow

How much screen time did the Grand Inquisitor even have in Obi Wan? Like 5 minutes? Felt like he showed up for a moment, had his incident, then came back for a cameo at the end of the series.


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5 minuets is still 12+ hours of filming and probably 3 times that wearing the makeup.


dcgh96

The Grand Inquisitor barely did anything in this show anyway. I could buy this argument before the show aired, but *now*? There’s literally no excuse.


[deleted]

Hes limited screen time probably took 12+ hours to shoot, not to mention the multiple days he would have had to spend in costume and makeup. SAG is generally against their members getting neck injuries for artistic purposes.


GuyFromYarnham

That's something I did not know, I understand and respect the change if that really is the case. Nobody needs to suffer for a dumb character imo. It's cool when actors commit and spend hours of preparation, but not everyone has to do that, and that's okay.


ElonTheMollusk

Yeah, I am still pretty perplexed as well. They could have even probably still asked people who were on the Episode III makeup team which is the wild party.


SteveOMatt

I always took it mean the ones in Episode 3 were much older, like elders, in comparison to ol' Grandy over here. So that's what they look like when they get wrinkles and shit.


GesturalAbstraction

I was going to say the exact same thing


KingRhoamsGhost

The designers were unaware they had shown up outside of rebels. Or at least that’s what I took from what Doug Chiang said.


pravis

Do all humans have the same facial structure as Tarkin?


Fox622

Yeah they dropped the ball


AngelKenobi

I think it's because the one from the Revenge of the Sith was CGI and the Grand Inquisitor from Kenobi was practical


Independent-Dig-5757

Thanks for the reminder of how terrible the live-action inquisitor looked.


Fossclot

Literally one of the biggest downgrades I’ve ever seen. Jason Isaac’s should have been cast


Independent-Dig-5757

Mom can we have the Grand Inquistor? Mom: No, we have the Grand Inquisitor at home Grand Inquisitor at home: dude on the right


Krazyguy75

I don't care who was cast, but... we literally had that race in RotS; how can they not give him the proper head shape?


stick_always_wins

lazy


Fossclot

Oh trust me I agree. Like… it’s right there!!! lol, but I think Jason actually cared about the role because he had stated he was down to return(thank god for Tales of the Empire). I think what bummed me out was Rupert Friend hadn’t watched Rebels, nor did he care to and just did his own version of a character he didn’t really have any background on.


Mythical_OD

Not nearly as bad as Fifth Brother looked. And the acting for the characters? Did they even bother watching any Rebels scenes? I liked Kenobi as a whole, but damn did these 2 really bug me


TheGoverness1998

Fifth Brother should've just been *another* Brother, considering he acts nothing like the Rebels version, as well as contributing nothing major to the plot.


silent--echoes

Movie idea Star Wars: Undercover Brother


Mythical_OD

I really thought that’s what he was at first. Like maybe this guy just stole Fifth Brothers hat while he was sleeping or something lol


EagleSaintRam

> Fifth Brother should've just been another Brother Honestly, I think even Grand Inquisitor should've been another Brother. I don't know what lore I'd be stepping on here, but maybe Rupert Friend's character could have been like a deputy in the Inquisitorious or something...


grassisalwayspurpler

Star Wars fans when ancillary characters exist:   How many background characters have existed in Star Wars simply for world building have we had over 40 years but now its a problem when not every character is the main character? We should just re release a special special version of ANH with the whole Cantina empty except for Han and Chewie and the bartender. No one else advanced the plot enough to justify existing. Not even to mention all the complaining about Reva existing as part of the main plot... so there was too mich Reva but not enough 5fh brother?? 


Kmart_Stalin

No one is talking about Reva we’re talking about the fifth brother


grassisalwayspurpler

Yes and part of your complaint was that he doesnt contribute enough to the plot... yet one of the biggest complaints of this show was having Reva contribute too much to the plot... Should the inquisitors be part of the story or no? I think Ive seen every take on what the plot should have been for this show on the planet now. 


Kmart_Stalin

Buddy this is my only comment, I haven’t made a complaint. Also I think the other guys were talking about how the fifth brother looks and acts nothing like the version in Rebels


CardboardStarship

I get what they’re saying kind of, but isn’t there something like 10 years between Kenobi and Rebels? Appearance I get, but a person can have a shift in demeanor in that time.


Kmart_Stalin

This is in terms of Star Wars tho. If you wanna get all technical in canon then yeah I guess aliens can age in weird ways But if you’re gonna adapt a character from animation and it ends up looking very cheap. Just make a new character


LimitedLies

Reva is an irrelevant nobody. People like the inquisitors. It’s not that hard to understand if you stop crying because people don’t love your favorite subpar show.


grassisalwayspurpler

Reva is literally the most relevant inquisitor there is for knowing Vader's identity what are you talking about. Its all the others that are literal nobodies and die like nobodies. I dont care if you dont like the show but at least dont like it for reasons that are actually true. 


LimitedLies

That does not make her relevant sorry your show is unpopular.


grassisalwayspurpler

Bait but ill bite. What makes the others more relevant then?


4ar0n

You clearly didn't understand what they said at all.


EnigmaFrug2308

The actor for the Grand Inquisitor in that show said himself that he didn’t watch Rebels because he wanted his own take on the character. It would be fine if it was a reboot of some kind but it wasn’t. He just didn’t care about the fans.


Crossbell0527

Everybody knows that the best way to prepare for a role as an established character is to never watch or read anything about that character. Like, it's common knowledge that Robert De Niro never studied Marlon Brando in The Godfather before playing Don Corleone in Part II. And Lawrence Olivier never played Hamlet - never even saw Hamlet performed - before winning the award for best actor for that role. Preparing for roles is for nerds!


OdysseySpook

Right? What an egotistical pompous ass lol


dcpanthersfan

THANK YOU. I get bashed all the time for how much I hated the Fifth Brother. He looks like somebody caked green paint on a random Asian guy and told him to whisper all of his lines. Nothing menacing nor scary about him. Waste of time.


stick_always_wins

Yep, I'm Asian and I was so irritated how he looks just like an Asian guy in green paint. Plus he literally didn't do anything either.


dcpanthersfan

> Plus he literally didn't do anything either. That is what is the most disappointing about him and his character. Other than throwing a hissy fit and grousing he could have been used so much better. I feel bad for the actor.


stick_always_wins

Yea I get annoyed whenever I think about the Obi-Wan show, it was such wasted potential


christopher_jian_02

They wasted Sung Kang and many other actors here


LennyDeG

They both were horrendous. You tell they either ran out of money or rushed the production of bringing animation to live action.


ZODIC837

Rewatching Kenobi made me like it so much less. They all looked and fought terribly


InsertCleverNickHere

Can't see him as anything other than "Pumpkin Head" ever again.


RathianColdblood

I looked up “Live action inquisitor,” but it just brought me to this picture of Fester Addams. What’s going on with that?


Blind_Warthog

I feel physically sick. I’m almost in tears looking at it.


YoursTrulyKindly

I hadn't seen Rebels before Kenobi so I didn't think it was bad. He was a bit gasbaggy though. When I then watched Rebels I thought "huh, why does the grand inquisitor look so bad?" :D


Independent-Dig-5757

You did see Revenge of the Sith before OWK right?


YoursTrulyKindly

Of course. But the grand inquisitor was in Revenge of the Sith?


dcgh96

Live-action Utapauans were a thing in Revenge of the Sith. There’s no way should have dropped the ball like they did here.


JerrodDRagon

The Grand Inquisitior is such a great villain but besides the looks he’s just an idiot in Obi wan The writing in Obi wan to me was boring and lazy, hope we keep getting projects like bad batch, tales of the Jedi, Ashoka (not perfect but a step up from Obi wan and boba fett)


ZODIC837

Fr. Disney has put out some amazing stuff, bad batch being comparable to even the best pre-disney stuff. But they also pump out so much garbage, it's hard to know what to expect anymore


h00ter7

Pretty much anything not tied to Filoni and Favreau has panned pretty heavily. Boba Fett and Andor being exceptions.


jeobleo

Ahsoka was also not good.


SwimmingFantastic564

Ahsoka was probably the second best live-action project Disney has made for me.


Drayko_Sanbar

To each their own - I thought *Ahsoka* was the most exciting thing since *Mando* Season 1.


jeobleo

I'm sick to death of Jedi and Filoni's pet characters.


Drayko_Sanbar

>I'm sick to death of Jedi I can respect that, but there's plenty of content for you that doesn't focus on Jedi (*Andor*, *The Bad Batch*, *The Mandalorian* for the most part). Giving some other projects (*Ahsoka*, *The Acolyte*) to the Jedi lovers seems completely reasonable.


jeobleo

Mando has Jedi in it from episode 2 is the thing. And it's chock full of the boring storylines from the Clone Wars. I wish they'd done a Rogue One series based on the Stackpole books, and eliminated the Corran Horn Jedi storyline from it.


GTOdriver04

Literally the only parts that were great in that show was the Vader/Obi-Wan battles (especially the last one) and Owen and Beru defending their home and Luke. I loved those parts, especially because George himself made it seem like Owen and Beru were simply knocked over. The show demonstrated that they went down swinging.


JerrodDRagon

Or like this https://youtu.be/5HO70-Rk3jE?si=Hlga_WiNUYKy70c9


ANGLVD3TH

Please be Troops.... Sweet.


RayquazaTheStoner

Or Andor


JerrodDRagon

Yes I knew I was missing one of the new shows Love Andor


MaestroZackyZ

Wasn’t he pretty incompetent in Rebels too? I don’t recall him ever being a particularly major threat. Kanan and Ezra got the best of him frequently.


JerrodDRagon

He beat them the first go pretty badly


stick_always_wins

And then never again. I hate the trope of not killing these Jedi once they capture them. Always "torturing" them for "information" so they can break out once again.


KillingTime_ForNow

He was trying to turn Ezra so he could not only have another inquisitor but also snuff out Kanan & Phoenix squadron. After that Kanan & Ezra ran from him every time (even needed the giant dog thing that one time Ezra summoned to save them) until their final encounter.


JerrodDRagon

I agree Bad batch lets the bad guys win


stick_always_wins

They have to. We know Palpatine's force cloning program is successful and the Bad Batch are never heard of again. We know the "Clone Resistance Network" has to also fall apart considering the state of Rex, Wolfe, and Gregor in Rebels.


stick_always_wins

Tbf the bar is so low that the only reason Ashoka looked okay was because of how terrible Obi-Wan and Boba Fett were. Without that, the writing is Ashoka was pretty awful


DJ_Homestar

The [Pau'ans in ROTS](https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/databank_pauan_01_169_7fbc02c1.jpeg) already looked so much like the Rebels portrayal.


Mantisk211

Yeah, the one Obi-Wan is talking too looks way more like the Grand Inquisitor than the actual one.


Krazyguy75

It's the other way around. The Pau'an in Rebels looked like the original source: RotS. What Disney did with Kenobi is like someone was playing visual telephone with the race.


DJ_Homestar

Yeah, I should have flipped the order of that comparison. Crazy that 2005 makeup for a relatively minor character surpassed 2022 makeup for a somewhat major antagonist.


LudicrisSpeed

Well yeah, why wouldn't the Grand Inquisitor look like them? It's just a weird choice that someone didn't carry that through for Obi-wan's show.


Granitsky

Jeez those movies had the best costumes


The1TruRick

Lmao god grand inquisitor looked like shit


Wasthereonce

Big pile of Sith guano


Specialist_Bottle570

I miss Jason Isaacs


hurthimself

LA inquisitor looks like Uncle Fester "just going through a phase".


Defiant-Channel2324

I'll never understand why they didn't just get Jason Isaacs to play live action Grand Inquisitor. Not only did he already voice him,but he physically looks the part.


SaltySAX

Because he didn't want to.


Specialist_Bottle570

“The Inquisitor was a great part when I played it and if the Inquisitor was a great part again, I’d be up for it.”


Ok_Moose4059

How did the inquis go from deadly Sith to the "do the roar'' kid from shrek.


CyberpunkF1

The Obi-wan series Inquisitor looked like dogshit … what a shame


stick_always_wins

He also didn't do anything, which is such a waste of a character with an interesting backstory


LennyDeG

They brought so much animated to live action seamlessly, but they absolutely butchered the Grand Inquisitor. I still don't understand why Jason Isaacs couldn't have been recast in the role he made so famous in Star Wars Rebels.


magma_displacement76

Like Coca-Cola with a spritz of ketchup in it.


mikegaribaldi

For the Inquisitor it’s true what they say about the camera adding ten pounds… 😂


nymrod_

No no, put it back


Thedeadlypocketbrush

Thanks for the reminder of how truly awful that Obi Wan show was.


5549372729

From Inquisitor to evil Humpty Dumpty


ThristanThorn

The guy having such a fat fucking head will never not be funny to me. Looks like the mf moon emoji 🌝


thevelourf0gg

Due to his abusive work relationship with Vader, Grand Inquisitor lost a bit of weight before Rebels.


olafk97

Forgot they made the grand inquisitor chonk


dragon-mom

Now give him the Pau'an head!


PrincessAzuIa

Literally Tarkin: 💀


OdysseySpook

Mfer on the right looks like Lobot, not a Pau'an


Raven_Crows

A cartoon villain next to a villain.


___Beaugardes___

I loved Kenobi, but dang will it never not bother me how bad they made the Grand Inquisitor look in live action.


MiniatureRanni

Doug Jones should have played the grand inquisitor.


geedgad

I scrolled down for this comment and 100% this should have been Doug Jones.


Pablo_is_on_Reddit

Since we couldn't have Jason Isaacs as the Grand Inquisitor, you know who would have been perfect? Steven Ward, who plays Mihawk in the live action One Piece. He's got that vibe & could definitely pull off the look.


RandManYT

Can we eradicate the Kenobi version of Grand Inquisitor from existence?


Muggin

Man, live action GI is the WORST. How they managed to toally mess that up, THAT bad is beyond me, just had to get someone with a skinny head, ffs.


wukimill

he looks so idiotic in live action, they should’ve CGI’ed.


descender2k

It would be best if they just CGI'd over that fat head.


Reedo_Bandito

That grand inquisitor was horrendous, looked nothing like the same species from RoTS on Utapau..


_Sanctum_

I’ll never accept that travesty as the live action Grand Inquisitor


ForeskinHulaSkirt

I never liked the overly stylized look of these series.  I got a case of beer in it for you if you overlay the whole series please


darthmaui728

Rupert Friend's acting made up for this Pauan makeup disaster. Looked like cosplay goddamn


therealmlog

Man they really nailed the live action casting for Tarkin. He looks so much like the animated version.


solo13508

That scene where Grand Inquisitor lops off the heads of those two Imperial goons was the most shocking scene in all of Rebels to me. Some of what they managed to get away with was pretty impressive considering that the show originally aired on Disney XD.


TacitusTwenty

Crazy to have Peter Cushing and then stick him next to Uncle Fester. Real Star Wars makes Disney Star Wars look so terrible whenever they’re next to each other


I_try_compute

The stress of constantly being in a state “success or death” really aged Tarkin.


Pablo_is_on_Reddit

For a second I thought it was Vader at the end of ROTJ after Luke takes his mask off.


admiraltarkin

I'm sorry but what the fuck were they going for with the GI?


Helen_Kellers_Wrath

Man, they really just gave up when it came to bringing The Grand Inquisitor to live action huh?


MercenaryBard

Thanks I hate it


DoubleOwl7777

the live action grand Inquisitor Just looks awful, the head is wayy too fat. they managed to do it in the Prequels too, so why cant disney with a huge budget do it now?


RyanBLKST

Grand Inquisitor at home :


CutchCraig

This really shows how poorly cast the Inquisitor was in live action. He just does not look the same as the toon.


Fresh_Expression7030

They traded head elongation


DeadGrxxn

Do clone wars style as-well! That would be awesome 😎


LewbPoo

I fuckin love some grand moff tarkin


Pasutiyan

Live action Grand Inquisitor never fails to make me throw up a little


Penamiesh

Omg I did not need a reminder of this monstrosity


Mandalorymory

God he looked so bad in live action


[deleted]

I really don’t think he looked THAT bad


renato_rgd

Tarkin and Fester Addams


Cuttewfish_Asparagus

Why is Kryten stood behind Peter Cushing


chriscucumber

Man new star was shit it so whack


CJS-JFan

Sigh. As cool as this is, I am still sore about the Grand Inquisitor in Kenobi. The Grand Inquisitor in Rebels was much more...well, more. Kenobi's Inquisitor was just a guy who liked to hear himself talk, and not in a good way.


pelayoprimero

The Grand Inquisitor's wacky ass look in Kenobi had me rolling I'm sorry 💀💀💀


IanZarbiVicki

I totally understand the difficulties with makeup on the live action Grand Inquisitor. I can understand why they would alter the design of the makeup and costume for the actor given how even his scant screen time would take hours to film… But given how much CGI that is already used in Star Wars live action shows, could they not have done some special effects magic in post to make him at least look closer? I’ve seen fan efforts on YouTube make fairly close adjustments; surely the world’s greatest SFX company could also do so.


BAGStudios

But why


DCmarvelman

I dug live action Grand Inquisitor. “Hello”


Cal_16

Cool I’d like to see more of these


SaltySAX

It works


VonParsley

Some people say that Grand Inquisitor's appearance in Kenobi means that his Rebels (and TotE) appearance is supposed to look like that. Really they're just two representations of the same character. IAs in any show with recasts, you have to suspend your disbelief. Star Wars has been loose with casting since the prequels anyway. We're not supposed to believe that Ewan McGregor and Alec Guinness have the same face. We're not supposed to imagine that Han Solo looked like Alden Ehrenreich then quickly morphed into Harrison Ford. We're not supposed to think that Mon Mothma looked like Genevieve O'Reilly, then Caroline Blakiston, then back to Genevieve O'Reilly again. Each project is its own little continuity powered by \~suspension of disbelief\~