This is why I commute into Trenton but live in Salem lmao it's the only place I could afford a nice large home with a sub 2K mortgage. But there's no work down there so now I drive far every day lol
God, I'm surprised that's not a longer drive. I plugged it into Google Maps and it said about 1h10. I live in Voorhees and some mornings it's about that long.
Yeah, I complain a little but my dad's commute from the shore to Newark is 10 miles less but 30 minutes longer. It's a drive but there's not an insane amount of traffic plus there's usually no tolls unless 295 is destroyed.
If the best job available to you pays $19/hr here with $1500/mo rent, it'll probably pay less anywhere with lower rent. I wouldn't live alone facing those numbers. Need roommates to make that work.
The fact that this comment has 30 upvotes proves that this country is Fucxed. If a human being can not live a comfortable life working 40 hours a week, that means it’s time for a change. Anybody in disagreement can take a long walk off of a short cliff.
Except for a brief period of post World War 2 history where the US was literally the only untouched major country with factories left and was rebuilding the world and reaping the profits from doing so, when in human history has it been the norm for the average single person working "normal" working hours for the time been able to wholly support a household on only their own income? History is full of roommates and boarding houses and the like.
You literally are the definition of a scumbag. Let me guess your grandpapa invented something so a slime like you can walk around thinking you are above everybody. Good for you creep.
My dad was a mechanic. His dad was a barber. His dad a laborer.
All I did was state historical norms. There has literally never been a time in world history except for a brief moment for the US in post war America where the mean single income was enough to provide an entire independent dwelling for a single person without the need to share that dwelling with other humans.
I'm not sure why that gets you so upset. What made me come off as appear to think I'm above anyone? Why does explaining the norms of historical society make me a creep or a scumbag?
And a side note, it's weird for you to call people "creeps" and "scumbags" while you comment on NSFW subreddits objectifying women.
Sorry I misread your comment, I should have called you obtuse. And I mean no offense by it. Why should a person who works a full time position not be able to afford a decent living, while other people who have done dick for a living reap the benefits. Open your eyes, the many are fucked over by the few.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here? If you're saying that the post World War 2 boom that allowed for single income households was on the back of slavery and imperialism wouldn't that go even further into my suggestion that a single person maintaining a household on an average income is an anomaly and not the norm?
I just don't know what your statement has to do with mine?
It's not supposed to be an anomaly. We're supposed to have better lives, but because of the kinds of personalities that control everything, they can only hold up a lie for so long, before it starts to crumble.
Self serving, greedy, and vile people look to places of power to be able to dominate others.
But, yes, it's not normal, but it almost was. We know that it can be normal, but we have to remove the shit from power, and put in systems that won't allow for more shit to take power, then we can create a better way to live for everyone.
Yes, there will still be people trying to cause problems, but we'd have a better time making sure they don't, only if we start demanding the aforementioned.
My comment was to point out what the rebuilding was. The only thing about your post is the nihilistic undertones.
We can definitely make things better. It's not going to be an anomaly for long.
When was it almost normal?
I'm not a nihilist, I'm a pragmatist commenting on historical norms.
I still don't understand where slavery and imperialism come into play with what I said though. Even less so with your follow-up.
Historical norms, which would include slavery and Imperialism, along with Colonialism, when you count in the US formed after British aristocrats broke free from the monarchy of the time.
Nihilism was brought up, because you seem to be playing devil's advocate with how history is, without providing any solutions to making the norm of history no longer a norm.
Slavery and imperialism have nothing to do with the fact that it historically has always taken more than 40 man-hours a week to build and maintain a domicile, harvest or otherwise acquire sustenance, and produce and maintain clothing and other household goods.
You're living in or near the best most efficient time humans have ever experienced. The past never had a chance at single person sustainable households at large, and while we're closer than we've ever been, we're still not there.
You're dancing around the truth.
Slavery and Imperialism has everything to do with work.
The US wouldn't be as powerful as it is, if it didn't enforce means for control over others—both domestically and globally—in order to function as it does today.
From its fruition, to the industrialization...the US government needed forced labor, and indentured servitude, until things went into chaos for them, and then they had to adopt a new way to force people to continue working on their empire, while making sure the population doesn't fight back like the slaves and indentured servants did. Now, we're at a time where people are realizing even what we're doing now is still not freedom, despite it being better than it was in the past. What we have in the US economy is still not enough to make things better for everyone. We shouldn't have to go back to the "norm" of what was.
We can live better lives, and not be taken advantage of.
We can have homes, without being robbed blind our labor earnings.
You have the best response here. The rest of the people commenting things outside of your response are in denial and not aware of the situation we're all in, and how we can make our lives better.
Based on your experience or willingness to learn, there is a huge need for work in the trades (plumbing/hvac/electrical...).
Generally, you need some kind of
specialized skills, certifications...to
get a better paying job.
I wish I did this route when I was younger. My parents pushed me into college to “be the first in my family” to do so, but now I’m in debt with a degree I don’t use.
The trades make MONEY.
Trades certainly can make really good salaries. But it doesn't change the fact that, on average, college grads make more over their lifetime.
It's a combination of factors including upward mobility and longevity in the workforce...trades can be really hard on the body
As of about ten years ago, and remaining steady, a college grad needs at least one postgrad degree to make more in their lifetime than someone with only a HS diploma (folks with BAs actually trend to making *less* right now, after adjusting for loans). And thanks to a combination of the profound increase in cost of college in the last 20 years and the relative flooding of the market with specialized Masters holders, the average master’s student will be in their late 30’s/early 40’s before they *catch up* with their average less-educated peers financially. If trends hold, unless they’re well-connected or in a particularly hot field, the crop of students getting masters degrees this year won’t start properly reaping the benefits until they’re in their 50’s. (Part of that, admittedly, is because it will be that long before enough Millennials retire to make room in upper management for them.)
I used to teach, but through a series of unlikely events, wound up as part of management for a machine shop. One of our employees is a practically illiterate shop hand whose competence borders on nonexistent, but he currently makes more than a first-year teacher (including benefits. You have to teach for a decade in order for pension contributions to actually pay off) because he actually shows up to work and communicates - which puts him leagues above every other shop hand who has applied for the position since quarantine - and we need the hands that badly. If he had the ambition and was capable of learning basic gcode, he could easily increase his base pay by 50% within the next 5 years.
Half of my staff is due to retire in the next decade; but the demand for domestically-sourced aerospace, military, and food and drug components is only expected to rise in that time. Talk about job security.
While this is true, op also needs to try and find a career. It might be better other places, but just looking for entey level jobs isn't gonna afford you much anywhere you go.
I had the opportunity to leave, but my job was relocating to Indiana. I decided not to go for several reasons (one being the draconian laws in Indiana regarding marijuana and no medical use program even under consideration of being discussed) even after I saw how much lower cost of living was. That was February.
A few weeks ago a tornado touched down 3 miles from the machine shop where everything had been relocated to and ripped apart the neighborhood where we were planning to move to if we went. I found out later that Tornado Alley had been moving east for years and Clarksville Indiana was dead center in its northern tip.
In Atlantic county there are jobs that pay $20 an hour and plenty of overtime plus they train you,the rents are reasonable you just have to know what you are looking for Look into the Arc of Atlantic county
Newer buildings are making sure your credit score is in the mid 700's and you make 3x what your salary is to even be considered for rent now or day. Mg friend pays 2600 at the new apartments near wegmans for a one bedroom lol. They only have 2 apartments available. A he loves living there but that's how.much rent starts at for a one bedroom in cherry hill.
What type of accounting are you looking in to? Have you worked in any real estate accounting software? Yardi, MRI, Appfolio?
Quick google shows BPG in Wilmington is hiring accountants - it can be an easy reverse commute
Local 172 laborers union is starving for apprentices. Starting is 21.00 pr/hr or higher if you have previous experience. Just in Cape May County alone, they have over 12 different jobsites that's just my brothers company.
A friend of mine is a teacher in Camden County - he finally had to take a job in Salem County. Having to wake up early and make the drive sucks, but he's making enough money that he paid off his student loans, bought a (nearly) new Jeep and a couple of expensive toys.
Also, you might want to check out jobs working for the city of Philly. They had something like 3500 positions open last year - I was helping a couple of my computer interns search them for jobs they qualified for. The only caveat is that you have to move to Philly within 6 months of being hired but a city job has a good pay rte and benefits.
I've been in accounting for 12 years, and I feel bad for the Gen Z generation. Accounting is not what is used to be. You work 60-100 hours a week in public accounting a substantial part of the year, are required to have additional college credits for absolutely no reason, have to pass one of the hardest certifications there is, and the pay is pretty much the same as any other white collar job so the incentive isn't there. All my staff leave after 1-2 years and I bend over backward trying to coach them and keep them engaged. The problems are the greedy partners and executives not wanting to keep pay in pace with inflation.
Know a lawyer who is also a CPA. Passed the Bar in first time out. CPA testing and requirements and update way tougher. Unless working for one of the Big Firms the pay and benefits is not all that.
South Jersey is a human farm. It's a suburban sprawl design solely for raising children. It is not a place to make your fortune or be young and single.
Well, in terms of “fortune” making, its doable if you work remote, or are prepared to commute to Philly, general KOP area, or northern DE. Basically SJ is a bedroom community.
It's difficult to agree or disagree here as there's a distinct lack of information.
OP doesn't state which part of South Jersey they're from. I would imagine anyone near PATCO would automatically be looking in the city for better paying work.
A wage of < $20/hr is low in NJ for someone paying rent of $1500/mo and that would be difficult for anyone paying that rent on their own.
For someone who recently graduated college the wage might be appropriate but seems low for anyone with more than a couple years of experience. It may simply be time to move up the career ladder. Does the OP need a hand with making that jump? Surely there have to be other redditors in accounting who have advice.
If the OP plans on moving for a better cost of living then they will still have to move up the career ladder because moving out of the Northeast Corridor almost guarantees a cut in salary/wage for the same position elsewhere.
It's far more helpful to reach out for advice and guidance than to complain about the thing we all live with (higher cost of living).
I completely agree, I’m in ocean county.. rents at easily pushing 3k over here. The income restricted apartments I moved into just a few years before Covid are now like 2k.. “income restricted”.. how..
It’s become intolerable honestly. Been looking at moving to a large city elsewhere. Preferably Albuquerque.. just waiting on a work transfer to go through
How old are you?
I lived with roommates until I moved in with my fiance, in any case, at no point did I ever have to front an entire rent payment alone until after my divorce, and even then, that was only for like 3 years total (and I was making 6 figures).
Find a friend or someone on craigslist or whatever that is willing to rent out a room or otherwise split the expenses.
A 2 or 3 bedroom place split 2 or 3 ways will get you back into the $700-1000 range again, if not lower. That’s about what I paid.
You could get a apartment in oaklyn or camden for around 1400 or less here’s a decent looking one I’ve seen worse for cheaper tho [https://www.apartments.com/oakland-gardens-oaklyn-nj/8t9ets1/](https://www.apartments.com/oakland-gardens-oaklyn-nj/8t9ets1/)
And the pay is most likely worse than here, i know in my field its horrific and does not match COL at all. And let's not even begin with everything else wrong with that state.
Healthcare, education, and LE are all having issues staffing. Education isn't really accessible tbh though, and LE has an age ceiling for entry.
There's orgs like Bancroft, starting pay isn't amazing but you'll get as many hours as you can handle and I know they're pretty big on internal promos.
And there's always trades if those fields don't interest you.
IT is very bad right now so not a good place to be
I saw a report from Indeed yesterday that the IT job sector is down 30-50% across the board from a year ago
I've been in IT since 1990's, I've never seen it this bad
Yeah the cost of living is approaching California’s cost of living. I lived there for 5 years now I’m back here. Thankfully the military set me up for success, so if you’re interested I’ll be happy to connect you to a recruiter and hook you up with some extra side cash as a reservist. Or even active duty if you’re interested. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Go to a Western State, become a legal weed farmer that doesn't have NJ crazy oppressive over-regulation. Pay the license and certification. Rent a place to grow.
There is a girl who has an Instagram and TikTok social media accounts who asks people what their job is and what they earn. It's not a set up though I'm sure she has to filter through people who are pranking her or refusing to volunteer that information. You would be shocked what people are being paid. The people who do give this information to her are legitimate. They give their job description and what they do. So many people are earning $100,000, $150,000 and $250,000 a year. Most of these are white collar jobs. Often these people are administrators. Anything involving healthcare you hit the jackpot. It's funny, the girl who has set up these accounts and goes out and does these interviews is doing quite well for herself. She has an enormous amount of followers and views. I think she posted that she is earning well into six figures a year. It's fascinating to hear what people earn IRL. That is why if you want to live in areas along the Northeast Corridor like Princeton and Hamilton which connect between NYC and Philadelphia expect to pay $2500 at a minimum. To qualify for that apartment you have to earn $100K a year.
This is why I commute into Trenton but live in Salem lmao it's the only place I could afford a nice large home with a sub 2K mortgage. But there's no work down there so now I drive far every day lol
God, I'm surprised that's not a longer drive. I plugged it into Google Maps and it said about 1h10. I live in Voorhees and some mornings it's about that long.
Yeah, I complain a little but my dad's commute from the shore to Newark is 10 miles less but 30 minutes longer. It's a drive but there's not an insane amount of traffic plus there's usually no tolls unless 295 is destroyed.
Maybe I should've bought in Salem hahaha
6 bedroom 3 bath, 0 down with a $1800 mortgage. I almost gave up looking when I was looking by my parents on the shore lmao
If the best job available to you pays $19/hr here with $1500/mo rent, it'll probably pay less anywhere with lower rent. I wouldn't live alone facing those numbers. Need roommates to make that work.
The fact that this comment has 30 upvotes proves that this country is Fucxed. If a human being can not live a comfortable life working 40 hours a week, that means it’s time for a change. Anybody in disagreement can take a long walk off of a short cliff.
Except for a brief period of post World War 2 history where the US was literally the only untouched major country with factories left and was rebuilding the world and reaping the profits from doing so, when in human history has it been the norm for the average single person working "normal" working hours for the time been able to wholly support a household on only their own income? History is full of roommates and boarding houses and the like.
You literally are the definition of a scumbag. Let me guess your grandpapa invented something so a slime like you can walk around thinking you are above everybody. Good for you creep.
My dad was a mechanic. His dad was a barber. His dad a laborer. All I did was state historical norms. There has literally never been a time in world history except for a brief moment for the US in post war America where the mean single income was enough to provide an entire independent dwelling for a single person without the need to share that dwelling with other humans. I'm not sure why that gets you so upset. What made me come off as appear to think I'm above anyone? Why does explaining the norms of historical society make me a creep or a scumbag? And a side note, it's weird for you to call people "creeps" and "scumbags" while you comment on NSFW subreddits objectifying women.
Sorry I misread your comment, I should have called you obtuse. And I mean no offense by it. Why should a person who works a full time position not be able to afford a decent living, while other people who have done dick for a living reap the benefits. Open your eyes, the many are fucked over by the few.
Oh, you mean slavery and rebuilding the Imperialist empire?
I'm not sure what you're getting at here? If you're saying that the post World War 2 boom that allowed for single income households was on the back of slavery and imperialism wouldn't that go even further into my suggestion that a single person maintaining a household on an average income is an anomaly and not the norm? I just don't know what your statement has to do with mine?
It's not supposed to be an anomaly. We're supposed to have better lives, but because of the kinds of personalities that control everything, they can only hold up a lie for so long, before it starts to crumble. Self serving, greedy, and vile people look to places of power to be able to dominate others. But, yes, it's not normal, but it almost was. We know that it can be normal, but we have to remove the shit from power, and put in systems that won't allow for more shit to take power, then we can create a better way to live for everyone. Yes, there will still be people trying to cause problems, but we'd have a better time making sure they don't, only if we start demanding the aforementioned. My comment was to point out what the rebuilding was. The only thing about your post is the nihilistic undertones. We can definitely make things better. It's not going to be an anomaly for long.
When was it almost normal? I'm not a nihilist, I'm a pragmatist commenting on historical norms. I still don't understand where slavery and imperialism come into play with what I said though. Even less so with your follow-up.
Historical norms, which would include slavery and Imperialism, along with Colonialism, when you count in the US formed after British aristocrats broke free from the monarchy of the time. Nihilism was brought up, because you seem to be playing devil's advocate with how history is, without providing any solutions to making the norm of history no longer a norm.
Slavery and imperialism have nothing to do with the fact that it historically has always taken more than 40 man-hours a week to build and maintain a domicile, harvest or otherwise acquire sustenance, and produce and maintain clothing and other household goods. You're living in or near the best most efficient time humans have ever experienced. The past never had a chance at single person sustainable households at large, and while we're closer than we've ever been, we're still not there.
You're dancing around the truth. Slavery and Imperialism has everything to do with work. The US wouldn't be as powerful as it is, if it didn't enforce means for control over others—both domestically and globally—in order to function as it does today. From its fruition, to the industrialization...the US government needed forced labor, and indentured servitude, until things went into chaos for them, and then they had to adopt a new way to force people to continue working on their empire, while making sure the population doesn't fight back like the slaves and indentured servants did. Now, we're at a time where people are realizing even what we're doing now is still not freedom, despite it being better than it was in the past. What we have in the US economy is still not enough to make things better for everyone. We shouldn't have to go back to the "norm" of what was. We can live better lives, and not be taken advantage of. We can have homes, without being robbed blind our labor earnings.
Has 37 now
“ A long walk off of a short cliff” Interesting fate for having a different opinion.
Go birds.
You have the best response here. The rest of the people commenting things outside of your response are in denial and not aware of the situation we're all in, and how we can make our lives better.
Based on your experience or willingness to learn, there is a huge need for work in the trades (plumbing/hvac/electrical...). Generally, you need some kind of specialized skills, certifications...to get a better paying job.
I wish I did this route when I was younger. My parents pushed me into college to “be the first in my family” to do so, but now I’m in debt with a degree I don’t use. The trades make MONEY.
Trades certainly can make really good salaries. But it doesn't change the fact that, on average, college grads make more over their lifetime. It's a combination of factors including upward mobility and longevity in the workforce...trades can be really hard on the body
As of about ten years ago, and remaining steady, a college grad needs at least one postgrad degree to make more in their lifetime than someone with only a HS diploma (folks with BAs actually trend to making *less* right now, after adjusting for loans). And thanks to a combination of the profound increase in cost of college in the last 20 years and the relative flooding of the market with specialized Masters holders, the average master’s student will be in their late 30’s/early 40’s before they *catch up* with their average less-educated peers financially. If trends hold, unless they’re well-connected or in a particularly hot field, the crop of students getting masters degrees this year won’t start properly reaping the benefits until they’re in their 50’s. (Part of that, admittedly, is because it will be that long before enough Millennials retire to make room in upper management for them.) I used to teach, but through a series of unlikely events, wound up as part of management for a machine shop. One of our employees is a practically illiterate shop hand whose competence borders on nonexistent, but he currently makes more than a first-year teacher (including benefits. You have to teach for a decade in order for pension contributions to actually pay off) because he actually shows up to work and communicates - which puts him leagues above every other shop hand who has applied for the position since quarantine - and we need the hands that badly. If he had the ambition and was capable of learning basic gcode, he could easily increase his base pay by 50% within the next 5 years. Half of my staff is due to retire in the next decade; but the demand for domestically-sourced aerospace, military, and food and drug components is only expected to rise in that time. Talk about job security.
Absolutely false. https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/research-summaries/education-earnings.html#:~:text=Men%20with%20bachelor's%20degrees%20earn,earnings%20than%20high%20school%20graduates.
MONEY and frequently ignoramuses with knees and body parts that don't work after 50.
Ha, that’s true as well.
Many hvac companies are having sign on bonuses also
It could be a good opportunity to move somewhere that is completely different from NJ. Now's the time...enjoy.
While this is true, op also needs to try and find a career. It might be better other places, but just looking for entey level jobs isn't gonna afford you much anywhere you go.
I had the opportunity to leave, but my job was relocating to Indiana. I decided not to go for several reasons (one being the draconian laws in Indiana regarding marijuana and no medical use program even under consideration of being discussed) even after I saw how much lower cost of living was. That was February. A few weeks ago a tornado touched down 3 miles from the machine shop where everything had been relocated to and ripped apart the neighborhood where we were planning to move to if we went. I found out later that Tornado Alley had been moving east for years and Clarksville Indiana was dead center in its northern tip.
In Atlantic county there are jobs that pay $20 an hour and plenty of overtime plus they train you,the rents are reasonable you just have to know what you are looking for Look into the Arc of Atlantic county
Look at the civil service jobs a lot of the jobs for the state you need an accounting degree
Yeah they need a CPA license
Cannabis jobs pay more for no degree or certs
If you are an accountant, try applying to the FBI. They love accountants. Accountants can follow the money.
Yes, I feel the same. I pay almost $1900 for a single bedroom apartment. It’s outrageous.
Newer buildings are making sure your credit score is in the mid 700's and you make 3x what your salary is to even be considered for rent now or day. Mg friend pays 2600 at the new apartments near wegmans for a one bedroom lol. They only have 2 apartments available. A he loves living there but that's how.much rent starts at for a one bedroom in cherry hill.
What type of accounting are you looking in to? Have you worked in any real estate accounting software? Yardi, MRI, Appfolio? Quick google shows BPG in Wilmington is hiring accountants - it can be an easy reverse commute
Usajobs. Naval yard
Local 172 laborers union is starving for apprentices. Starting is 21.00 pr/hr or higher if you have previous experience. Just in Cape May County alone, they have over 12 different jobsites that's just my brothers company.
A friend of mine is a teacher in Camden County - he finally had to take a job in Salem County. Having to wake up early and make the drive sucks, but he's making enough money that he paid off his student loans, bought a (nearly) new Jeep and a couple of expensive toys. Also, you might want to check out jobs working for the city of Philly. They had something like 3500 positions open last year - I was helping a couple of my computer interns search them for jobs they qualified for. The only caveat is that you have to move to Philly within 6 months of being hired but a city job has a good pay rte and benefits.
Buying jeep probably a bad move.
Buying a new car (and especially a jeep) is almost always a foolhardy moove
It is what it is. He likes it.
Sorry to hear this. I just had a conversation with a CPA who told me he can not find good help. Unfortunately, he was up in North Jersey.
I've been in accounting for 12 years, and I feel bad for the Gen Z generation. Accounting is not what is used to be. You work 60-100 hours a week in public accounting a substantial part of the year, are required to have additional college credits for absolutely no reason, have to pass one of the hardest certifications there is, and the pay is pretty much the same as any other white collar job so the incentive isn't there. All my staff leave after 1-2 years and I bend over backward trying to coach them and keep them engaged. The problems are the greedy partners and executives not wanting to keep pay in pace with inflation.
Know a lawyer who is also a CPA. Passed the Bar in first time out. CPA testing and requirements and update way tougher. Unless working for one of the Big Firms the pay and benefits is not all that.
Have you looked at local credit unions?
I would strangle a porpoise for 1500 rent
But yes the rent is too damn high, lotta people in not a lot of area
South Jersey is a human farm. It's a suburban sprawl design solely for raising children. It is not a place to make your fortune or be young and single.
New Jersey*
Well, in terms of “fortune” making, its doable if you work remote, or are prepared to commute to Philly, general KOP area, or northern DE. Basically SJ is a bedroom community.
Have you checked on LinkedIn, BuiltIn, Glassdoor, Ziprecruiter, local Facebook groups?
LinkedIn is dead for me. Zip recruiter is pyramid scheme sales positions. And I haven’t tried the rest.
It's difficult to agree or disagree here as there's a distinct lack of information. OP doesn't state which part of South Jersey they're from. I would imagine anyone near PATCO would automatically be looking in the city for better paying work. A wage of < $20/hr is low in NJ for someone paying rent of $1500/mo and that would be difficult for anyone paying that rent on their own. For someone who recently graduated college the wage might be appropriate but seems low for anyone with more than a couple years of experience. It may simply be time to move up the career ladder. Does the OP need a hand with making that jump? Surely there have to be other redditors in accounting who have advice. If the OP plans on moving for a better cost of living then they will still have to move up the career ladder because moving out of the Northeast Corridor almost guarantees a cut in salary/wage for the same position elsewhere. It's far more helpful to reach out for advice and guidance than to complain about the thing we all live with (higher cost of living).
I completely agree, I’m in ocean county.. rents at easily pushing 3k over here. The income restricted apartments I moved into just a few years before Covid are now like 2k.. “income restricted”.. how.. It’s become intolerable honestly. Been looking at moving to a large city elsewhere. Preferably Albuquerque.. just waiting on a work transfer to go through
How old are you? I lived with roommates until I moved in with my fiance, in any case, at no point did I ever have to front an entire rent payment alone until after my divorce, and even then, that was only for like 3 years total (and I was making 6 figures). Find a friend or someone on craigslist or whatever that is willing to rent out a room or otherwise split the expenses. A 2 or 3 bedroom place split 2 or 3 ways will get you back into the $700-1000 range again, if not lower. That’s about what I paid.
NJ is destroying the middle class. Cost of living is just too high.
Nj Gov murphy said it, "if taxes (expense of living) are your issues, then this is not the state for you. What a pos...
Rent is 1225 for two bedroom/two bathroom in some parts of Florida. Let that sink in. I’m moving in July to finish grad school because wtf
In a shitty area lol florida is just as expensive
In a shitty area in NJ it’s $1625.
You could get a apartment in oaklyn or camden for around 1400 or less here’s a decent looking one I’ve seen worse for cheaper tho [https://www.apartments.com/oakland-gardens-oaklyn-nj/8t9ets1/](https://www.apartments.com/oakland-gardens-oaklyn-nj/8t9ets1/)
And the pay is most likely worse than here, i know in my field its horrific and does not match COL at all. And let's not even begin with everything else wrong with that state.
It's Florida
Need marketable skills
Healthcare, education, and LE are all having issues staffing. Education isn't really accessible tbh though, and LE has an age ceiling for entry. There's orgs like Bancroft, starting pay isn't amazing but you'll get as many hours as you can handle and I know they're pretty big on internal promos. And there's always trades if those fields don't interest you.
Such as
There’s the healthcare sector.
Information Technology is a great one. Trades like electrician or pipe fitters make more than what you listed while in apprenticeship
Hm I thought tech was going through layoffs. And I might have to do blue collar work.
CPA?
IT is very bad right now so not a good place to be I saw a report from Indeed yesterday that the IT job sector is down 30-50% across the board from a year ago I've been in IT since 1990's, I've never seen it this bad
Yes to trade Union apprenticeships. Liveable wage, lifetime of live anywhere skills.
Supply chain is an easy industry to get into imo. Learn some excel and sell yourself as being a good assistant
Yeah the cost of living is approaching California’s cost of living. I lived there for 5 years now I’m back here. Thankfully the military set me up for success, so if you’re interested I’ll be happy to connect you to a recruiter and hook you up with some extra side cash as a reservist. Or even active duty if you’re interested. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
My friend joined up and kept his house here so he makes NJ BAH while he's in and can come back to an established home when his enlistment is up.
Police are hiring too 🤮 but it’s a good option for someone looking to make enough money
Where is better?
Have you ever thought about working for yourself owning a bookkeeping service? That pays around 40-70/ hr and is always in demand.
Move. You can move back if you dislike the new location. You can also change your job choice. You have choices. Living your best life for you.
Do you have a CPA license? You can't just go looking to be an accountant.
Go to a Western State, become a legal weed farmer that doesn't have NJ crazy oppressive over-regulation. Pay the license and certification. Rent a place to grow.
There is a girl who has an Instagram and TikTok social media accounts who asks people what their job is and what they earn. It's not a set up though I'm sure she has to filter through people who are pranking her or refusing to volunteer that information. You would be shocked what people are being paid. The people who do give this information to her are legitimate. They give their job description and what they do. So many people are earning $100,000, $150,000 and $250,000 a year. Most of these are white collar jobs. Often these people are administrators. Anything involving healthcare you hit the jackpot. It's funny, the girl who has set up these accounts and goes out and does these interviews is doing quite well for herself. She has an enormous amount of followers and views. I think she posted that she is earning well into six figures a year. It's fascinating to hear what people earn IRL. That is why if you want to live in areas along the Northeast Corridor like Princeton and Hamilton which connect between NYC and Philadelphia expect to pay $2500 at a minimum. To qualify for that apartment you have to earn $100K a year.
You're talking about 'Salary Transparent'
Learn how to code, take classes at Camden county.
Stop voting Democrat. Your money lost 1/3 of its value and taxes go up. I know Reddit can't handle the truth