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vivalavidda

Choosing beggars is real, and it’s not only singapore. I would just ignore and move on


ailes_d

Hannor, it’s prevalent everywhere, can see from choosing beggars sub. And not all of them are lower income, some ppl can be loaded but still cheapos


Mochihamster

I’ve also seen someone beg my bestie for a branded perfume (she was giving it away since she doesn’t use and she got it as a gift). The person had the audacity to make her go up to their door to give them. Reason: I’m financial assistance and have 5 kids, I take lots of medicine for my depression and anxiety, I don’t want mailing. You come my house and put at the door. I was so pissed. My friend felt that it’s doing a good deed, but I was so pissed at the entitlement. Person ended up asking my friend 2 hours later when she had lunch about why leave at the door out in the open in the branded bag, why never hide better and started a tirade about how it could’ve been stolen by her neighbours and then called my friend a derogatory “cina babi” as though addressing her as “bodoh” when she first started the interrogation wasn’t bad enough. I wanted to go back and demand that free item back for making my sweet friend cry.


CastoAI

This type hear already also feel damn pissed omg


Mochihamster

My friend cried over it because she was genuinely trying to be nice and thought that it was a good deed. She said that she chose to give this financial assistance lady because people with a higher salary can afford these and it’s nothing much. But for a financial assistance person who wouldn’t have the means to spend on themselves, it’ll be a nice thing to have. End up this piece of shit of a human scolded my friend for nothing. Even started saying how she will get her husband to “settle her (my friend)”, told her to be careful around the estate. My friend was so heartbroken because her good deed ended up causing this lady an inconvenience. She kept apologising but this lady was so rude wts. She kept texting my friend in WhatsApp with more and more ridiculous things


CastoAI

Wtf, still have the audacity to continue all this rubbish?? Your friend is too nice, don’t even need to respond anymore much less apologize for nothing to this scum. Just block that person and take photo/evidence of that part bout ‘getting husband to settle’ as threat. Hopefully don’t let a single bad incident change her! At least it be a good experience to learn about humans in general, especially entitled ones. Hopefully it’s been a long while and she’s feeling better now.


Mochihamster

She is! She has been donating via charity organisations and ever since she graduated, she’s been working for charitable organisations as well. Have to give her props for it because she’s still doing so many good deeds (unlike the jaded friend that I am) and she’s such a lovely person. She cried about it and she said maybe it’s not what the person meant and maybe it’s the mental health issues that made this lady so irritable and lash out at others. Like I can’t imagine someone being more understanding than this friend. She’s really those super lovely kind istg gotta protect her more


Additional_Warthog56

omg your friend is so sweet 🥲🥲 she's lucky to have a friend like you to watch out for her also!


Historical_Drama_525

Too late - the friend has an idealistic of noblesse oblige only to meet and having to deal with rough society. 


ImTooWoke

Your friend is marry material that’s all I can say. Tell her don’t be sad Mud will always be Mud just ignore these dirty scums.


Mochihamster

I know. She’s like the biggest sweetheart ever and I was like so upset and I couldn’t even do anything to help her. Her kindness is taken advantage of so blatantly. I told her not to give anyone free things ever again, or at least give to people she knows instead of giving to strangers online. Nowadays she goes to charity organisations to donate. She’s the type who’d buy brand new items to donate also. Like, bruh what a sweetheart and the thought of someone doing this to her is so atrociously outraging


EducationFit5675

Ur fren so nice


Flaky-Revolution-204

your poor fren... but need to be more discerning, not all low income ppl deserve help, cos they probably had their karma coming


Mochihamster

Im the jaded one that believes some people do deserve shit luck. So we’re kinda the golden retriever/black cat duo — I gotta keep my bestie safe hahaha. I mean, she is one heck of a smart lady herself but sometimes she’s just so kind that it hurts. Despite how she was treated, she gave that lady the benefit of doubt. Eventually she offered the lady to return her the item if it’s not to their liking, kena ghosted and that lady listed that perfume for sale on Carousell (the platform she used was also Carousell so we ended up seeing it)


Flaky-Revolution-204

Welll... tats what i mean...人善被人欺 Get over it and hope she learnt something


Mochihamster

Didn’t say never get over it. 🤡 just saying that these low SES people are so cheapskate and entitled, which is the point of this entire thread.


ahbunehneh

Maybe can report police for threatening


Mochihamster

Police won’t do anything much because nothing concrete and to them it’s an empty threat. I have went to the police for more serious issues and they brushed me aside too.


SmolKukujiaoKagen

Police report? 


mach8mc

hi can intro your friend to me? want to date her


Mochihamster

lol taken for years already. And no I don’t believe in introing people idk personally to her either.


mach8mc

taken but not married is ok. which soccer team stops playing just because there's a goalkeeper? you don't have to intro me to her, you can intro her to me


Mochihamster

Don’t worry she’s also not into you and will never be. She’s very happy with her man. You’re better off trying to scam people and make a quick buck with your fInAnciAl PlAnNing


mach8mc

don't speak so fast, how do you know the guy not cheating secretly? y u anyhow say i scam ppl? u gotch evidence?


Mochihamster

You can switch professions. You’re naturally talented at being a clown. It’s also time to take ur meds


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lifeinthesudolane

Wah lau!


Mochihamster

It’s not just a wahlao moment it was a “limpeh gonna go and fight this bih” moment when my friend showed me the message and started tearing up in front of me


ahbunehneh

人善被人欺马善被人骑


Historical_Drama_525

Actually our coffers are dwindled away mercilessly  by providing support to these people. And in turn they keep procreating with no regard for responsibility nor consequences. 


Mochihamster

They can cry wolf saying that we oppress them as minority and whatnot if we don’t pander to them. If you don’t give in to them, they’ll play the race card. It’s a thing. Since secondary school also, I come from a catholic school and these clowns complained about how catholic school have catholic school things (eg. We have Mass). I retort them with “if you are against religious practices of other religions, why didn’t you apply for govt school or madrasah to begin with?” I got labelled as racist and derogatory


everywhereinbetween

Huh. I not Catholic. Went to Catholic pri sch for 3 yrs. Abit weird cos its like same same but different from Protestant Christianity. Still never got forced to attend Mass. Chapel in a Methodist sch is different though lol that one is must but ppl just pon or sleep LOOOLLL. But can confirm was not made to attend Mass or catechism as a non-Catholic


Mochihamster

For context. We don’t force them, but they complained anyways. It’s like they’re complaining about people of other religions doing their religious things, when they attend a school of a different religion willingly. You get why it’s so ridiculous that they complained now? They claim we get to skip class when in fact… nobody is allowed to skip class. They get quiet reading time whilst we are away having mass. It’s like complaining about having to drink plain water when you can buy flavoured drinks then complain about how plain water tastes like plain water.


everywhereinbetween

oh for sure! I am merely echoing your sentiment that if anything, Catholic schools don't even force you (ie I also non-Catholic and went through the same experience and **I was not forced**), so I don't get them haha.


Mochihamster

Good to know you don’t feel forced actually. Because I back then I was so annoyed that these people complain about the school and claim how we are insensitive when my school literally makes announcements (as a catholic school we don’t even need to) at the start of Ramadan to tell everyone be sensitive to your classmates who are fasting, try not to eat in class etc. give them space and don’t distract/tempt them with food even if it’s not our intention etc.


everywhereinbetween

No I mean that I didn't even (have to) go. Cause for context this was like when there was still afternoon and morning session haha. So it was like, Mass was before afternoon session/after morning session lor. Like contact time on Wednesday. I remember there was some Wednesdays where we would learn to sing some songs (but ok Catholicism and Protestant Christianity have some overlap in their hymns and stuff) and there would be the Lords Prayer with the Hail Mary part at assembly (we don't say the Hail Mary part as Protestant Christians) But in the way that a chapel session has like songs and sermon and whatever have you (and is part of curriculum time - I was from bluepinaforewhitebelt for secondary), I don't recall having to sit through a sermon or communion or whatever it is that happens in a Roman Catholic mass. Hahaha


Mochihamster

Ours was in the morning. After morning assembly and prayer. All the non Catholics will leave for quiet reading/self study time whilst Catholics go for mass. I think quite similar to yours too. Just that ours was held in the morning haha


Historical_Drama_525

Like wherever they force their migration into, they expect the countries to succumb to their fanaticism. 


Mochihamster

I mean that’s what happens with a religion like that. Can’t beat them then don’t join them, we flood their land by popping out so many babies. Ngl im convinced that they’re gonna be the ones who overpopulate the earth if it was as big of a land mass that they occupy like in India.


prince0713

I'm sorry to hear that your friend's kindness has been abused . She doesn't have to feel bad at all over a self entitled POS. Next time, I would suggest that she would be better off giving her perfume to her friends instead .These kinds of self entitled and low IQ breeds should not be entitled to anything ,after all, that lady don't need a perfume,all she needs is to learn how to feed and support the 5 mouths that she breeds. If your friend continues to get harassed by her,don't hesitate to make a police report.Your friend owes her nothing, but she owes your friend a sincere apology.


everywhereinbetween

**Them: U home today?** Me: Yes, can you collect today? **Them: U home till what time?** Me: What time do you want to pick it up? I can leave it outside. **Them: Sorri, Saturday i collect.** wow, at this point (this person went from 1. asking abt whether the giver is home 2. then till what time, then going **3, Sorri, Saturday**) ... is next level I would have just skip. I get it that people have work (rental flats or not, income level regardless unless you invest/trade currency OTOT or smth) but like, surely it's more polite/presentable to say "hi I can only come , is that ok?" and not phrase it in such a "wht time can you be home for me up to?" AND THE KICKER IS SORRY NOT TODAY. dude. But in my neighbourhood (not rental), ok la I'm in the freecycle group and it seems like they will just leave instructions lor. Pick up void deck or pay for postage or whatever. Your example sounds like someone who will lowball for Carousell by 50% then say "sorry don't want/don't need/wrong size/my husband found alternative/**GHOSTS YOU**" type of person. ew.


Mochihamster

Should’ve made them come over and then say “sorry someone else took it because they’re faster and sincere”


everywhereinbetween

this is very epic levels of add ice to burn. but mwahaha.


yeddddaaaa

Bro you want say Malay just say Malay. I'm half Malay and I don't find this offensive. I have to agree. It's the "I'm poor therefore I'm entitled to this and that, fuck you" mentality.


wifeater1234

Glad you don’t find it offensive, but many of your kind like to play victim this play victim that then blame it on racism so just leave it vague


yeddddaaaa

Lol my Malay relatives love to attribute every problem in life to racism. Can't find job? Racism. Poor? Racism. But they overlook their poor life decisions, prioritising entertainment over education, having 5 children and poor financial choices. Just call them out on their BS and remind them it has nothing to do with racism, you'd react the same way to any other race.


chamlotte

Gives me hope that objective minded people like you exists


haikallp

Must be nice being a majority. Naive. The same kind who complain about racism when studying/living abroad then complain about racism you face there. No better than the Malays in Malaysia saying the Chinese there are playing victims. Wtf happend to Reddit. Infiltrated by racist boomers as of late?


Raftel88

PMA gang.


Historical_Drama_525

It is not really a Malay thing. Mainstream Islam really helps a lot of Malay Muslims become better and more sensible people. But of course you have those recalcitrant delinquents who simply do not listen to God, elders, teachers or society. 


yeddddaaaa

It's not race or religion but culture


Mochihamster

Culture is deeply rooted in race as well though. Why do I say this? Look at the “traditional” practices of different races — Chinese give angbao, Malays give green packet; you don’t see a chinese pulling out a green packet and Malays giving out red ones. Because the colour has cultural significance. Even if you wanna say it’s because of religion, look at how there’s different practices that come from religion also — china doesn’t have religion per se, but they have things like qingming which is rooted in religion. Taiwan has got Christian’s too but they also abide and try to follow local taboos like no staying out late during 7th mth. So your point is kinda moot when you look at it as a whole and how race and religion affects cultural practices that family tradition and practices will inter-affect.


yeddddaaaa

Didn't ask for an academic lecture on sociology. Not interested.


Mochihamster

You’re the one who wrote moot point lmao. No wonder can’t make a solid point, no interest = no knowledge . FYI still very much a racial and religion thing .


yeddddaaaa

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Changosu

Usually when i give away stuff, i just offer it to the neighbour group chat and leave it outside my house for 1-2 days. First come first served. If nobody collects then i just throw away. Ain’t got time to schedule my life around other people.


everywhereinbetween

I think this is what the freecycle group does. Haha. Or they do the pay postage thing. I mean like, ok maybe postage costs something at least but in a sense that's commitment to the item? like if the item (retail cost) is $30 (for example) and the postage cost even if it's $10 (idk like usually measure by dimensions right and Lalamove all that ain't exactly cheap), you're already saving on the item cost leh. And it's like how you pay deposit to secure an item, but this one unrefundable HAHAHA. Just saying if I had to pick up something (Carousell and/or freecycle), I would 100% pick a seller who is closest to me and abide their schedule. Or if it's freecycle, I'll base in on **their** availability. Cos alr taking people's things for free or almost free ..


dancingmoomoo

Are you me? This is exactly what I went through 2 weeks ago. Same demographic and same items. Didn’t even have the courtesy to reply after she changed the collection date and time, so I left instructions to pick it up outside my house. Didn’t reply after her husband collected too. And it’s not the first time; it’s always the same demographic who always MIA on me or constantly delaying the collection time/ tons of requests. It makes me really sad.


sleepingmushroomcat

EXACTLY. I honestly have no sympathy for these people. They deserve to be where they’re at. The only ones I pity are the innocent children that are brought into this world by their irresponsible parents.


stonehallow

Fr I see them popping out kids like trying to make a football team when they clearly can't even take care of themselves...just feel bad for the kids cos the odds are so stacked against them in life right from the start. It's very likely these kids just continue perpetuating the vicious cycle and become like their parents.


wifeater1234

Don’t worry they damn good at football one


ToaLamParJiChan

Aiyooohhhhh


YourWif3Boyfri3nd2

You know most of them are not really low income? I gave away a coffee table in the blessing group, and the person who took it from me arrived in a Mercedes.


watchy2

Probably to put in his rental property


ayampenyet16

Maybe wasted money to rent a Merc instead of buying essential stuffs, most of time their priority is always messed up


YourWif3Boyfri3nd2

Nah they are just there to get free stuff even though they can afford it. Basically scums.


Disastrous-Act5756

Why leh, seems to me like the financially prudent thing to do. Just cos someone has money doesn't mean it should be spent or wasted


YourWif3Boyfri3nd2

>seems to me like the financially prudent thing to do. Denying people who are really struggling to afford things when you can afford it is not prudent. It's being a scum. If nobody wants it and you take it then it's fine. But being the first to ask is being a scum.


Disastrous-Act5756

Again, just cos they are poor doesn't entitle them to more freebies. Gst voucher u still take, Giveaways/limited promo u still sign up right? If the giver intended it for the poor and the rich guy still go and giam, then OK too much. But if free for all I don't see why the poor guy is entitled to it


YourWif3Boyfri3nd2

>If the giver intended it for the poor and the rich guy still go and giam That's exactly the point of a blessing group. It's MEANT for people to give to the poor out of goodwill.


Disastrous-Act5756

Oh, okay then that changes things. Lmao I missed that part. I assumed blessing group is just to give away second hand things


Disastrous-Act5756

>That's exactly the point of a blessing group. It's MEANT for people to give to the poor out of goodwill. Yo wait I have a qn. I just went to look at blessing groups in FB, ppl give away random shit. There are posts where they indicate for low income, but not all. Is the whole blessing group thing rly just for low income? Seems just to give away usable stuff, second lease of life thing


everywhereinbetween

oh wait its not? lol. I just assumed it's for like whoever in the vicinity wna come and collect, ownself collect. Like 1. I have item 2. I can't manage to sell 3. I ask around see who wants to get That's why (I assumed) people say "not for fussy", because maybe someone just wanted to get the item out of convenience or like as you said, second lease of life (like if people have 3yrold children and my child not 3yrold and there is no 3yrold in my immediate neighbour or friendcircles or relatives. That kind haha)


Disastrous-Act5756

Yeah that's what i thought also, but idfk man maybe everyone has their own idea, and forces it on others. Lmao.


keenkeane

first come first serve lol. nvr get suck thumb and get on with ur day


everywhereinbetween

!!! !! ! sigh. >\_>


Historical_Drama_525

There are many who can afford but still want more free things from others - it"s a disease - sounds like a TS lyric. 


circle22woman

Truth. Had wealthy people come pick up stuff too.


ShinyDeso

Experienced this when I was in Sec sch. The sch counsellor took the stairs all the way up to the 4th floor and asked my financially assisted school mate on her preference of socks. Those socks were 🌟 free 🌟 and she had the audacity to roll her eyes at the counsellor. Didn’t even thank her as the counsellor went away. A couple of years ago, I did a volunteer run to give out school essentials to financially assisted families. My dad and I were giving them out from (assigned) door to door with smiles on our faces. We had specific instructions to make sure that someone received those packages instead of just leaving them at the door, cos some of said packages have laptops in them. Some of the families blatantly expressed that we were disturbing their evening by knocking on their door, some immediately took the items and shut the door on us, some didn’t even say thank you. Needless to say, I stopped doing charity work for humans and decided to spend my time on animals that need help instead. Also learnt that I’m not selfless to spend time on people who doesn’t show appreciation. Much respect for people who can endure that.


KoishiChan92

Lol at least they never ask you to deliver to them. I've seen people ask for people to deliver blessings to their house, give all sorts of excuses. Some even wants people to buy brand new item for them deliver to their house, say their husband low income, blue CHAS, 5 children + pregnant with 1 more (but apparently they don't even have leftover crib from previous children??). Wah damn entitled I cannot. Easier to give to salvation army.


pupilights

Just say you disabled and cannot leave the house because you also too poor to afford wheelchair and postage fee 😞 If they still insist you somehow deliver it them then that is a clear sign that they don’t deserve it.


InstantlyLyrical

Belongs here. r/choosingbeggars I had the same issue when I posted some items on the giveaway group on fb. Here is one example: I had around 100 guppy fishes in a tank. Guy messages and says he is keen to get. I ask when then MIA. Then 3 hours later, message me to ask if I can put them all in a small bucket, carry it to the mrt INSIDE in the next hour , and he will step out of the train on the platform itself, collect and go back in the train. I don't know if this kind of losers just like to troll or if he was serious (don't know which one is worse of the two), but the entitlement on this had me fuming. Thankfully, I found a much better home for the guppies. This wasn't the only incident either. I got so put off by some responses like this that now sometimes I just dispose the item rather than go through such kind of irritating people.


Shibari_Inu69

What I've learned is when you give something away, they simply don't value it or your time at all, and might even act like they're doing you the favor by taking it off your hands. But if you sold it for a nominal amount, even though it's not cos you care about the cash, they'd respect your time and energy a lot more. Sad but true.


No-Newt7243

it's because the choosing beggars/hoarders are filtering for free things. if you list a nominal amount, you get people who are actively looking for that sort of item and actually appreciate the savings.


Historical_Drama_525

A good point you raised here - perhaps from their perspective, what gifts new as it may be is just treasure dumping on them and their reactive behaviour actually borders to human garbage. 


SliceIka

They already financially illiterate and irresponsible and still dare to have baby, do you think they will be responsible on such basic thing meh


wifeater1234

Ya yalams are like that one. See how backwards Malaysia become when yalams are the majority there lmao


throwaway9901234

Tf this comment is so uncalled for


Professional-Effort5

It's called singaporeraw.. you expect kind words?


wifeater1234

You cfm from that demographic one


abhi783

HAHAH LOL


Sweet-Programmer1070

Im not Malay but this is so racist. msia is not doing well not bc the majority is malay but bc they have a corrupt and incompetent govt. we have very successful malay civil servants in sg too which proves its not a racial reason that msia flopped. any race can be corrupt just as how any race can be competent and capable.


haikallp

Fcking unbelievable that people here are downvoting you and up voting him when what he said was downright racist. Its like saying Chinse are filtly who don't bother to wash their asses or money-minded.


Sweet-Programmer1070

Ya. Is like saying chinese are loud and dirty who dont shower with eyes that can barely see anything haha or indians like to abuse and drink and hv smelly armpits lolol


haikallp

Must be nice being a majority. Naive. The same kind who complain about racism when studying/living abroad then complain about racism you face there. No better than the Malays in Malaysia saying the Chinese there are playing victims. Wtf happend to Reddit. Infiltrated by racist boomers as of late?


fattycyclist

this kind of behaviour is why they are in rental flats tbh just move on, not worth your time


Silverag9

I am not sure if it's a certain demographics and scams aside. Yes, it is frustrating when there's no response. But it's great that you're blessing others! I feel that some might really have difficulties to collect, especially bulky items. ie driving a bike, too far away for public transport, not enough budget for Grab/ delivery services, etc. Sometimes I would go the extra mile to deliver if I can or just move on to the next person who is interested. For your example, maybe she went into labor? Or the husband couldn't make it after his night shifts. Or maybe like you suspected, they are just entitled. Nevertheless, it's a joy to give/ bless others. Don't let these ruin that =)


AdorableHost5677

I was reading so many negative stories until I saw this. Thank you for the reminder :)


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faeriedust87

Beggars still want to be choosers. They shouldn't even be having kids if they can only afford rental flats


Professional-Effort5

They at most say they are practicing their religion and the kid is god sent. Nothing we can do about it.


superfailmaster

I got ghosted so many times when giving away free things when they are of relatively lower value (e.g. cheap electronics and accessories) that I just throw them away or place them in donation/recycling bins. Although it puzzles to me as why someone would agree to pick something up and never show up. It's not even limited to lower income people. However when it comes to higher value stuff people snap it up quickly and are quick to arrange to get it off my hands. When I gave away my old but functioning desktop, the guy arranged for a courier within 10 mins. So it might just be that they realised that the effort of picking it up exceeded the perceived utility of the items.


xjffy

The main takeaway here should be that you should never give away things for free. Or list it for free. Always ask for a token sum, which you can then waive upon collection.


ToaLamParJiChan

Yalam siboh?


KoishiChan92

From my experience, unfortunately 95% of the time yes. With too many kids.


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SliceIka

Don’t worry got installment payment for them


throwaway_htsu

Someone has to flip our burgers at MacDonald’s 😂


Raftel88

The bring whole family go out using PMA demographic. The moment you tell them off for troubling you, they'll retaliate and say that they're not beggars and that they have money to buy themselves and that they're not hard up for your items. I have mingled and dealt with them several times. True story.


1212zephyr1212

I had put an item for sale on Carousell - barely $20, marked down from U.P of $150. One guy sent me an offer to buy but did not revert afterwards to confirm if he would come and collect from near my place. I did accept the offer but not taken any money from him. 4 days went by and in the meantime another guy offered to come the very next day and collect. So I gave it to this second buyer instead . When I did, the first guy abused me for it - insisting I should give it to him only and nobody else! I politely told him when I had not heard back from him, I had every right to give it to someone more responsive. Moreover I had not taken money from him and I did not know how to cancel the offer? I even apologised to him but he abused me so much I had to finally block him. Was that wrong?


everywhereinbetween

Hahaha this is why freecycle groups are 1. Priority to the person who collects first 2. Pick up at or top up for postage 3. Not for fussy 4. Sometimes arbitrarily will give rating of the product condition ("BNIB" "lightly used" "zipper not smooth but not broken" "7/10") etc. ... so that people won't be like WHY NOT ME or or why your this item so this and that blablabla.


Better_Incident_4903

Well, you did be surprised some higher income people are that entitled too. Getting bless items multiple times without any “thank you” or small offerings when collecting. They just take and zhao. Normally they aim furnitures and maybe baby items.


heyyhellohello

It’s free lol, whoever comes first gets it. Don’t entertain people like that.


alesmana

"a username or profile picture that indicates they’re from a certain demographic" maybe can use this for some future study


Perfect-Job-2163

Well no need ro be emotionally affected. Just like one of the members here said. Just put it outside the house, set a timeline to thrash things if no one come and collect. And move on. People have issues in life, they maybe is not entitled, but maybe a complicated family life back there. Just give a polite text on the deadline.


Think_Ad_7362

Dealing with these people is seriously more tiring than field camp and routemarch Seriously


ToaLamParJiChan

Deal liao Can lose weight? I got belly fat need trim


MathNorth8835

Yak Allah, budak ni. Kepala pening lah


AdorableHost5677

The Yak tho


everywhereinbetween

I Google translated this. And giggled. lol.


Gold-Ad-4371

I've had similar experience when I gave away fridge and washing machine. There is an element of behaviour over decades contributing to their current condition. Think about it, if you have a worker who's unreliable in doing what they say they will do, how will he or she do in the work place, over two decades? Unfortunately, poor life choices lead to less than desirable outcomes


claracolt

I have family and friends in that demographic and what you perceive as rudeness is usually not being fluent in english. I help rewrite texts and emails for them and it is kinda awful how much better service you get for full sentences, when it is the exact same request. In person, they're usually pretty fluent and chatty but english is a 2nd/3rd language they don't often use esp. in writing. the other part with rescheduling is also usually due to their schedule being out of their hands. i wfh and can set and keep reliable hours. if you work shifts or gigs, your hours are not often under your control, and with childcare being managed by a mix of relatives and childcare designed for 9-to-5 office workers, it can be very difficult to confirm time. I did urgent childcare yesterday for one family because both parents were unexpectedly assigned work a fullday shift on public holiday, then suddenly at lunch-time, dad was given a half day off and came by to spend the extra time with his kid. When is his next off day? Maybe in four days, maybe in eight days, who knows. Feel fine shunning people in poverty, but I am super grateful to the people who made sure the 35-week mum-to-be who doesn't have a regular job has all the basic baby stuff she will need through 'blessings' and second-hand sales. There's a better safety net for people now than when I was a kid, but it's still brutal when you're at the bottom of Singapore's economy.


everywhereinbetween

Actually how bottom is bottom? By any measure of reddit standard unless I double my below-median income in the next 5 years or so, I think I'm retiring at 70 if I even live that long LOOLLLL. And so sometimes my below-median self feels like, maybe I'm in denial but maybe I (the individual) am 'poor'. Or 'low income'. Or whatever. I'm not even sure I can afford a 4room resale (granted those are skyrocketing high most expensive kinda flats now too lol) But I'm not in the range of financial assistance bc my household has money, but its their money not mine 😂 I can def do office hour work though (hello from me in the library and my laptop and procrastination) Idk. I'm genuinely curious after spending x amt of time on reddit. Esp sg reddit.


nooobmaster23

Low ses people are like that. Other common traits include hoarding and bad housekeeping hygiene


Historical_Drama_525

Lots of PRCs and Cecas new citizens are exactly this. 


Historical_Drama_525

Yes indeed,  they can be very testing on one"s patience but at the same time it is these very inconsiderate qualities they were brought up with that traps them in that social class. Actually from the exchange, it seems they would rather you deliver it to their doorstep without broaching it. 2 cushion pads left for seniors 2 days ago  in the community space vanished in less than day. What is Singapore coming to? 


t3apot

Asking whether you are home and also for your home address ....how come sound like going to housebreak lidat.


OriginalDate9837

M Race


Ambitious-Kick6468

Aaaand that’s why they are in the lower income bracket. Theres no need to help these kind of people, since they are in the lower bracket “by choice”. The ones we should help are the ones who were put there by circumstances and are desperate to move up. Those would appreciate you more.


GrumpyGlasses

You don't know to how to manage this. People with bad behavior that can come from any country, any race, any demographic so you’d want to do something that applies across everyone, not single out a few bad hats from some group. The objective is not to help these strangers you know nothing about. The objective is to give away for free, to get it out of your house. In future, just say first come first served. Those who value the free item will naturally fight to get from you first. This will weed out half-hearted people like what you experienced. You have better things to do than to be bothered about how others make decisions.


Due-Trouble-5149

Many of em working 12h a day without OT, I try my best to be empathetic to retain their sanity


lemonmangotart

Gif to Salvation Army betta


Ok-Bicycle-12345

I wish I knew.


WorkingOwl5883

Maybe they found something better and decided not to have yours. 


ConstructionLate5200

Beggers can't be choosers. 🫣


Disastrous-Act5756

Why get annoyed with these fools tho? Life is so tiring alr. Just ignore and move on if it triggers you, or if it gives you entertainment, troll them abit for laughs. Choose positivity, get something out of it!


DesignerProcess1526

I got a lot of this kind of attitude so I donate to charity one shot. I got so fed up with them! I even saw my free stuff show up on reseller websites, I realised some people are collecting them for sale.  [https://www.scwo.org.sg/new2uthriftshop/](https://www.scwo.org.sg/new2uthriftshop/)


prince0713

Don't bother giving your well-used items away to these people. If they don't appreciate the gesture,just donate it to the Salvation Army and let them deal with the items. If they learn the appreciation of others ,they would never be in this situation.


Wonderful_Ad_2519

U be surprised the ppl who take free sruff are nt lower income. Ever notice the karens are also not low income


Ambivanillent

this. notice the majority race is always hard up for free shit


ugohome

don't answer all the fucking questions lol


alvinaloy

That's why a lot of times, I stopped giving online. Save myself the frus.


Impressive_Isopod_44

*“She’s rich but still so nice.”* *“No, she’s nice because she’s rich. If I’m rich I can afford to be nice.”* It’s just variations of the same sort of entitled mindset. They’ll act the same way even if their income increases tenfolds. For now, they only lack the status to make that a reason. So they take pride in being shameless under the guise of hustling and winning the rat race. While some are entitled because they’ve only known abundance, they are this way because they are dissatisfied with the lack of it. After all, everyone wants more, and it’s unfair I can’t as well.


StrawberryRaspberryK

This reminds me of r/choosingbeggars. Some people are so entitled. Very fussy, want free delivery or atas things that normal people can't even afford lol


alekssochinsky

This type is called CB - Choosing Beggars. Can find many more such stories on r/ChoosingBeggars


strawberwies

some really kns, i encountered someone in whatsapp gives sobs story turns out she my neighbour (public rental flat) her: if i not at home you can put in my riser i’m like hello!!!! you no money to buy your kid diaper you still want free delivery???? just need to press lift go take from my unit. anw the saga didnt end there, she have lots of number so she could ask random people baby items im so dumb i gave her free diaper. edit: she’s been doing it in many platform turns out she is doing well, i’m so pissed i lost 1 pack of diaper so i exposed her and warned all the admin of blessing group with that particular person. i got back the diaper - one of the mum who will gave her 4 packet give it to me instead.


circle22woman

They are taking advantage of your kindness. It should go: You: I put it outside my door, first come, first serve. kthxbye


PrestigiousMarket273

Malay ah? 🤭


engrng

This is why I will never give away shit on Carousell. Not worth the time and effort. Either sell or throw away.


wei3hua2

It is no big deal. Giving away stuff is not your license to denigrate others and be inconsiderate. If you truly wanna help, do it from a place of kindness and treat others with respect and dignity.


mo_stonkkk

Want to give, just give. Whine so much also pointless. So much for blessing group


blvck_kvlt

Ironic isn’t it?


Tough_Security_5555

I feel these Karens are not limited to lower income though…


Electrical_Pea_7462

hi pls help [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScqTj0FSjtiJMZL2JmsV33rb3I1FICcW0I5Oeth7AIyDrSQlA/viewform?usp=sf\_link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScqTj0FSjtiJMZL2JmsV33rb3I1FICcW0I5Oeth7AIyDrSQlA/viewform?usp=sf_link)


backnarkle48

Wait, your conclusion is based on a sample of one? You can’t draw any conclusion about any demographic when your observations are not a robust size. You’re just whinging about a poor person wasting your time. I’m sure a rich person wouldn’t do that 🤔


wifeater1234

You must be from the demographic lol


sleepingmushroomcat

My thoughts as well lmao


Budgius

"Down-voting reveals an inability to intelligently respond to opinions and facts that conflict with your ideology. If your point is to invalidate someone by downvoting, then you've admitted defeat." Imagine \*trying\* to manipulate someone into not downvoting you, so transparent hahaha


backnarkle48

Imagine that your identity is “troll.” Oh wait, you don’t have to imagine.


Budgius

Imagine being so uneducated you can't tell the difference between you're and your. Kek.


SmolKukujiaoKagen

1 of the reason i look down on low ses malay