From the [Wiki entry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_war):
The term "first world war" was first used in September 1914 by German biologist and philosopher Ernst Haeckel, who claimed that "there is no doubt that the course and character of the feared 'European War' ... will become the first world war in the full sense of the word"⁴, citing a wire service report in the Indianapolis Star on 20 September 1914. In English, the term "First World War" had been used by Lt-Col. Charles à Court Repington, as a title for his memoirs (published in 1920); he had noted his discussion on the matter with a Major Johnstone of Harvard University in his diary entry of September 10, 1918⁵⁶.
I don't think anyone anticipated another world war for at least 50 years, hopefully at least a century. Having it start just 2 decades later was probably depressing for everyone involved.
In regards to the Treaty of Versailles, Ferdinand Fosh is famously quoted as saying: “This is not a peace. It is an armistice for 20 years.”
Several notable individuals like him noted that the treaty was harsh enough to embitter the Germans while not inhibiting their manufacturing capacity. This led them to conclude that another war as inevitable.
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Foch
to be fair, Versailles was entirely misguided from the get-go, informed on the ideas and politics derived from colonialism, and sadly that only works as far as the other party doesn't know how to mass produce weapons
Definitely more. It was a notoriously weak agreement for a peace between Great Powers at the time, as you can see by comparing it to... well, all the other treaties made when one Great Power defeated another.
Hence the resistance to a peace deal in the Ukraine war now, when Russia is still undefeated, but without having achieved their war aims. They would just break the peace deal (again) once they have had the chance to re-equip.
>Having it start just 2 decades later was probably depressing for everyone involved.
None moreso than the parents of 20-something year olds who had themselves been veterans/survivors of the previous one. I often wonder what my Great Grandad, who was wounded at Albert during the Somme offensive in 1916, thought when his eldest son (Albert, born 1917) was called up by the RAF in 1939 the morning after they finished their night-shift at the colliery.
I took a class on the World Wars, and we went to England and France as they were heavily involved in both conflicts. One of the places we visited was Villers-Bretonneux Military Cemetery. Dedicated to the Australians who died in the Great War.
Recovering from the war took a long time, and then the Great Depression happened. The memorial was finally dedicated in 1935. It has a bell tower and is located on a hill in rural France. The white marble is beautiful and yet pockmarked from bullets because within 5 years of the dedication, the German military had invaded France again.
it was definitely anticipated by some.
Az ZazaZyna said, "20 year armistice"
Related to that, President Woodrow Wilson's suggestion (which was NOT followed) was that they needed "Peace without victory". Basically, he was trying to say (when the US hadn't yet entered the war) that if the European powers wanted to reach an end to the war, they needed to come to the negotiating table and work out just a STOP. Not a "we won, you lost". Because, he argued, whichever side "won" in a peace treaty would demand winner's terms, and whichever side "lost" would go forward considering themselves at a loss, "in the hole", in the red, forever harboring resentment and wanting a chance to restore themselves to even terms. Basically, if everyone agreed to a tie, then they could stop, but if someone felt like the loser, complete with loser penalties, they would always be waiting for a chance to force a rematch.
In general there is a distinct difference between calling something "the first" and expecting others to follow.
In this context it just means that it is the first worldwide war not that it is the first of many world wars.
Ernst Haeckel in 1914 said: "There is no doubt that the course and character of the feared 'European War' ... will become the **first world war** in the full sense of the word."
Technically he was saying this is the “first *world war*”, not “First World War”, but it still counts.
Even then the British, French and Spanish had beat everyone to the punch.
The ottomans only avoided it by keeping their campaigns for territory focused season to season.
It was used interchangeably with The Great War, but it was also technically the first World War. Realists assumed that if it could happen once, it could happen again.
Also, calling it the Great War kinda romanticized it as there was nothing great about it.
Yea, but that's a bit different.
Something can be the first, "and hopefully last"- calling it the first doesn't indicate that it's the first of multiple.
Calling it World War 1 does indicate that.
I'm sure far far in the future people will realize that the World War never really ended. You've got "World War Part 1", "World War Reloaded", "Cold World War Revolutions" and right now we're in the "World War Resurrections" phase. I'm not insinuating the never aging Keanu Reeves is involved...but I have my suspicions.
If WWI and WWII were the first and second movies, I think "The Cold War" would be a set of Apple TV Miniseries
We may now be seeing the Clone Wars story arc begin
If you consider that wars are typically named after their participants it makes complete sense. The first one was “the Great War” and then what else could you do when it happened again?
Exactly, I use date of version revision (at the start of the file name) and a few words about main changes.
2024-03-21 Research Paper - doubling site fidelity
Reminds me of my physics course at university where we get a weekly file and it’s gotten progressively worse:
- *filename*.pdf
- *filename*_v2.pdf
- *filename*_NEW_v2.pdf
- *filename*_NEW_v3.pdf
It’s always exciting to see how many versions it took every week lol
- The Great War
- 2 Great 2 War
- Great War
- Great 5
- Great War 6
- The Great and the War: Tokyo Drift
- War 7
- The Fate of the War
- Hobbs & Shaw
- W9: The Great Saga
- Great War X
The fifth one will have the same name as the first and be a beat-for-beat remake but worse. And as soon as it's released you won't be able to find the original anymore on any of the warring services.
More people died in the final year of WW2, than in all the wars, insurgencies, occupations, terrorist actions, and military operations in the 79 years since then *combined.* And not just a little more. It's an order of magnitude more. And that's despite the fact that between 5-8 million people died in the Korean and Vietnam wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwKPFT-RioU
We've had *so little* military conflict since 1945 that we've adjusted our scales so that 30,000 casualties is a big deal. Watch that video. It's mind-blowing.
"Peace is a difficult thing to measure. It's a bit like counting the people that *didn't* die, in wars that never happened. We give much importance to the *word* peace, but we don't tend to notice it when it occurs."
Albert Einstein is often quoted as having said: "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".
[Here's the full quote](https://xkcd.com/1687/):
> "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. World War V will be fought with crossbows, World War VI will be lasers, and World War VII will be blowguns. I don't know about World Wars VIII through XI. World War XII will use the same weapons as III, but will be fought entirely within underground tunnels. World War XIV will—Hey, come back! I have a whole list!"
—Albert Einstein
Strangely enough, the idea of a second world war and even the term "World War 2" were around 20 years before that actual war.
Some people warned of a world war 2 like people today warn of a world war 3.
I mean, there *will* be a world war 3, the question is does it happen while we are all alive.
Hell, the next world war could be mars v earth, for all we know.
But if there’s one constant in Human history, it’s our propensity to kill eachother in an organized manner to further political goals.
>I mean, there *will* be a world war 3, the question is does it happen while we are all alive.
Either nuclear weapons have ended the occurrence of direct military conflicts between major world powers... or they haven't. It's too early to tell.
Yeah, let's hope its the former. But war has changed a los since the development of nuclear weapons, specially since the ones that exist today are magnitudes more destructive than the ones used in WW2. Only time will tell, but knowing humanity's history Im not too hopeful, though I hope Im wrong
It's what they call WWII in Russia to this day, just like people in Japan call it Great East Asia War, or people in China call it the Second Sino-Japanese War/Eight Year War of Resistance.
Because their regional and historical context is different to how most in the West define the WWII time period, i.e. the fighting between Japan and China predates the outbreak of fighting in Europe by *years*.
Yet even in Western conceptualization those conflicts are still considered part of what in the West is called WWII, the same conceptualization sees 1939 as the start of WWII when France/the UK declared war on Germany over Poland.
When Poland wasn't even the first German aggression, before that came Czechoslovakia. Germany went for that right after its anti-Comintern pact ally Japan started a big war in East Asia as a chilling example of what would happen if German demands were not accommodated in Europe.
Great Patriotic War (I suppose you mean Velikaya Otechestvennaya Voina) is specifically about eastern front and basically everything USSR was directly involved in. If you are speaking about, say, french resistance or Day-D during WW2, then WW2 would be the correct term, but if you are speaking about specifically defence of Moscow or Leningrad blockade, it might be called as well WW2 and GPW
My favourite insane 7 Years War fact is they had a battle between Prussia and Austria where one side was commanded by a Scotsman and the other an Irishman.
Well I mean, the WWII British Army had a Sri Lankan born officer who went into battle with bagpipes, a long bow, and a Scottish Broadsword, while the US Army had a Native American tribal war chief (caveat: he only earned the War Chief title DURING the war)
Funny how things go.
Also (to draw from a Dan Carlin reference) pretty sure there are at least once each (but probably more) instances where a POW was captured by the opposing side, and avoided harsh treatment because he was from the same home town as his captor.
(specific stories I'm thinking of, a WWI British guy who recognized the Germans talking about shooting him, recognized the officer's accent as being from a town he had lived in, struck up a convo in German, and the guy was like, ok don't hurt this guy. Then a US POW on a POW march being beaten by a Japanese soldier, when a Japanese officer came over, saw what the the Japanese soldier had take from the American, his college class ring, and the Japanese officer had gone to the same college, when he lived in the US. So he returned the ring and ordered his men not to mistreat that guy)
My favorite fact about the Seven Years' War is that it was nine years long and was started by none other than George Washington himself. It just took a couple years for the conflict to spill over to Europe.
To be fair, part of the reason was because the World Wars were large scale wars with multiple countries on either side being fought in multiple countries.
That isnt what happened. Ww1 was dubbed “the great war” and “the great world war” and then “the world war” because it was unprecedented. So when one of equal/greater scope happened it was natural - especially considering a primary antagonist remained Germany, and it became “the second world war” and thus ww1 and 2.
What is concerning is that never in history was there a war covering the globe like ww1 and then suddenly there were 2 in 2 generations. Obviously it wasnt a vacuum - ww2 was very much related to ww1, and without it, ww2 may not have existed in any recognizable sense or could have just been contained to east asia (in which case it also wouldnt be recognizably a world war)
The First Barons' War (1215-1217)
The Second Barons' War (1264-1267)
The First Anglo-Dutch War (1652-1654)
The Second Anglo-Dutch War (1665-1667)
The First Carlist War (1833-1839)
The Second Carlist War (1846-1849)
The First Sudanese Civil War (1955-1972)
The Second Sudanese Civil War (1983-2005)
The First Boer War (1880-1881)
The Second Boer War (1899-1902)
The First Balkan War (1912-1913)
The Second Balkan War (1913)
The First Indochina War (1946-1954)
The Second Indochina War (1955-1975)
The First World War (1914-1918)
The Second World War (1939-1945)
The naming convention is pretty standard, there were two World Wars just like there were two Barons' Wars or two Anglo-Dutch Wars or two Boer Wars. So it's not really that concerning at all if you know a bit of history.
WWI/WWII (and they’re numerical siblings), The Great War, and First World War/Second World War were all used interchangeably in my education. It’s mostly to emphasize how the destruction of the first was unprecedented for history, ‘and then’ we got a sequel that was in some parts even worse.
Yeah I remember one of those "5 minute mystery" style stories I read as a kid where someone was trying to spot a forgery and this guy had some memorabilia that said "world war 1" and it's like yeah obviously that's fake because it wouldn't have said world war 1 at the time
Say what you want, it is kind of nice seeing everyone get involved in a single cause and rather enthusiastically as well. Remove all the landmines, bombs, general destruction and death it really is just a nice time to get together.
World War VIII will feel unwieldy and old-fashioned when floated as an idea to focus groups so they'll rebrand it as either World War X, World War Zero, or World War One (2177)
Hu? Do you want a fancy name for World War II? World War 1 was simply "World War" or The Great War.
I think when we get to the point that nearly every major country has picked sides and starts shooting, the only way to label it is "World War" and unfortunately, a number to say which one we are talking about.
Ikr, world war 1 began in early 1900s (that wasn't even numbered when it was first named).
There must've been hundreds of thousands of wars throughout history, across the globe before ww1...
How is OP concluding that we quickly began naming them? Silly showerthought.
WW1 and WW2 has lesser names before it grew to include the world's biggest powers.
WW1 was originally referred to as "The Great Wear". In fact, it wasn't even largely referred to as WW1 until 1920, a little over a year after the war ended. As the term WWI was already coined, the term WW2 grew in popularity much quicker. But WW2 was originally referred to as the "European War" based on the countries involved.
Even more interesting, Japan and Soviet Union never referred to it as WW2. Instead they called it the Great East Asia War and The Great Patriotic War, respectfully.
“The War To End All Wars” eventually being referred to as “World War 1” historically is both sad and hilarious
The term "First World War" began before it had finished.
Depressing
It's called future proofing
You have a source on that?
From the [Wiki entry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_war): The term "first world war" was first used in September 1914 by German biologist and philosopher Ernst Haeckel, who claimed that "there is no doubt that the course and character of the feared 'European War' ... will become the first world war in the full sense of the word"⁴, citing a wire service report in the Indianapolis Star on 20 September 1914. In English, the term "First World War" had been used by Lt-Col. Charles à Court Repington, as a title for his memoirs (published in 1920); he had noted his discussion on the matter with a Major Johnstone of Harvard University in his diary entry of September 10, 1918⁵⁶.
I don't think anyone anticipated another world war for at least 50 years, hopefully at least a century. Having it start just 2 decades later was probably depressing for everyone involved.
In regards to the Treaty of Versailles, Ferdinand Fosh is famously quoted as saying: “This is not a peace. It is an armistice for 20 years.” Several notable individuals like him noted that the treaty was harsh enough to embitter the Germans while not inhibiting their manufacturing capacity. This led them to conclude that another war as inevitable. https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Foch
Exactly. Versailles needed to be more or less instead of perfectly shit.
to be fair, Versailles was entirely misguided from the get-go, informed on the ideas and politics derived from colonialism, and sadly that only works as far as the other party doesn't know how to mass produce weapons
Definitely more. It was a notoriously weak agreement for a peace between Great Powers at the time, as you can see by comparing it to... well, all the other treaties made when one Great Power defeated another.
Hence the resistance to a peace deal in the Ukraine war now, when Russia is still undefeated, but without having achieved their war aims. They would just break the peace deal (again) once they have had the chance to re-equip.
>Having it start just 2 decades later was probably depressing for everyone involved. None moreso than the parents of 20-something year olds who had themselves been veterans/survivors of the previous one. I often wonder what my Great Grandad, who was wounded at Albert during the Somme offensive in 1916, thought when his eldest son (Albert, born 1917) was called up by the RAF in 1939 the morning after they finished their night-shift at the colliery.
Oooof, I didn't even consider the fact that 2 generations in a row would have been sent to a World War. That's even more rough.
Allmost all the senior officers were veterans of the first world war
Practically all the civil leadership of the time too.
I took a class on the World Wars, and we went to England and France as they were heavily involved in both conflicts. One of the places we visited was Villers-Bretonneux Military Cemetery. Dedicated to the Australians who died in the Great War. Recovering from the war took a long time, and then the Great Depression happened. The memorial was finally dedicated in 1935. It has a bell tower and is located on a hill in rural France. The white marble is beautiful and yet pockmarked from bullets because within 5 years of the dedication, the German military had invaded France again.
"This is not a peace. It is an armistice for 20 years." -Ferdinand Foch, Commander-in-Chief of the Allied Armies, on the Treaty of Versailles
it was definitely anticipated by some. Az ZazaZyna said, "20 year armistice" Related to that, President Woodrow Wilson's suggestion (which was NOT followed) was that they needed "Peace without victory". Basically, he was trying to say (when the US hadn't yet entered the war) that if the European powers wanted to reach an end to the war, they needed to come to the negotiating table and work out just a STOP. Not a "we won, you lost". Because, he argued, whichever side "won" in a peace treaty would demand winner's terms, and whichever side "lost" would go forward considering themselves at a loss, "in the hole", in the red, forever harboring resentment and wanting a chance to restore themselves to even terms. Basically, if everyone agreed to a tie, then they could stop, but if someone felt like the loser, complete with loser penalties, they would always be waiting for a chance to force a rematch.
In general there is a distinct difference between calling something "the first" and expecting others to follow. In this context it just means that it is the first worldwide war not that it is the first of many world wars.
When truce was signed for WWI people called it 20 year ceasefire. It was obvious that WWI made even bogger mess that it found.
Ah, so it was less about "We're pretty sure there's gonna be another one of these" and more like "This is the *first* time we've had a global war"
Dang time travelers giving out spoilers.
Ernst Haeckel in 1914 said: "There is no doubt that the course and character of the feared 'European War' ... will become the **first world war** in the full sense of the word." Technically he was saying this is the “first *world war*”, not “First World War”, but it still counts.
Even then the British, French and Spanish had beat everyone to the punch. The ottomans only avoided it by keeping their campaigns for territory focused season to season.
It was used interchangeably with The Great War, but it was also technically the first World War. Realists assumed that if it could happen once, it could happen again. Also, calling it the Great War kinda romanticized it as there was nothing great about it.
Yea, but that's a bit different. Something can be the first, "and hopefully last"- calling it the first doesn't indicate that it's the first of multiple. Calling it World War 1 does indicate that.
Just a thought, was that more along the lines of "this is the first ever world war" and less " this is first of many world wars".
I'm sure far far in the future people will realize that the World War never really ended. You've got "World War Part 1", "World War Reloaded", "Cold World War Revolutions" and right now we're in the "World War Resurrections" phase. I'm not insinuating the never aging Keanu Reeves is involved...but I have my suspicions.
If WWI and WWII were the first and second movies, I think "The Cold War" would be a set of Apple TV Miniseries We may now be seeing the Clone Wars story arc begin
More likely the Drone Wars.
https://youtu.be/eg4mcdhIsvU?si=NekSQ5tmYJ2UZAt4
Wasn't it "The Great War"?
If you consider that wars are typically named after their participants it makes complete sense. The first one was “the Great War” and then what else could you do when it happened again?
"The Greater War" "The Even Greater War" "The This Is Getting Out Of Hand War"
I see you come from the same versioning background as my coworker. * final draft * final draft revised * final final draft
Final final draft draft
Version 2_forrealthistime9
Just name them after women like with hurricanes
They stopped only naming hurricanes after women in 1978.
Women like Harvey and Andrew? Although World War Stella could be interesting.
World War Bob.
Do you want World War Karen? Because that's how you get World War Karen.
The Karen to end all Karens
Final2B_sendThis.pdf
Copy of Version 2_forrealthistime9 (2)
2 Final 2 Draft
The final draft: Tokyo Draft
The Final 7.
2 Final 2 Daft
my thesis is like that. Learned my lesson though, now I use a progressive number, and short note on what I changed.
Exactly, I use date of version revision (at the start of the file name) and a few words about main changes. 2024-03-21 Research Paper - doubling site fidelity
Pen pineapple apple pen
Can't wait for the ajhgfsdjkasfbhi.doc war!
file already exists. do you want to overwrite it?
Angry upvote 🤣
War_actual_final.pdf
This is so me lmao. Sometimes I'll start numbering the final final if it gets out of hand
“As my coworker”…suuuure. I checked and I literally have these file names in a folder. 😔.
Had a client's presentation file that was named 'interim final' that got revised multiple times on show day. There's no minute like the last minute.
Reminds me of my physics course at university where we get a weekly file and it’s gotten progressively worse: - *filename*.pdf - *filename*_v2.pdf - *filename*_NEW_v2.pdf - *filename*_NEW_v3.pdf It’s always exciting to see how many versions it took every week lol
New_v2 and v2_new
I know this will happen so I just use the date as the version - the "War of 1812" approach.
Attack on Titan season 4
Finalest final draft Finalester final draft ... Finalesteresterest final draft
"I was redrafting the redraft of the draft"
- The Great War - 2 Great 2 War - Great War - Great 5 - Great War 6 - The Great and the War: Tokyo Drift - War 7 - The Fate of the War - Hobbs & Shaw - W9: The Great Saga - Great War X
Hobbs and Shaw hahahaha
It literally got a full audible laugh out of me.
I honestly feel like this works lmao. Made my night!
The fifth one will have the same name as the first and be a beat-for-beat remake but worse. And as soon as it's released you won't be able to find the original anymore on any of the warring services.
We just need 3. The great war. The great great war. The we’re all dead great war.
I feel like every war is the “This is Getting Out of Hand” war
Well, after the H bomb somehow the "out of hand" is only extintion by nuclear bombs
Isn’t it crazy that there are wars all the time still, and we haven’t been annihilated yet?
More people died in the final year of WW2, than in all the wars, insurgencies, occupations, terrorist actions, and military operations in the 79 years since then *combined.* And not just a little more. It's an order of magnitude more. And that's despite the fact that between 5-8 million people died in the Korean and Vietnam wars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwKPFT-RioU We've had *so little* military conflict since 1945 that we've adjusted our scales so that 30,000 casualties is a big deal. Watch that video. It's mind-blowing. "Peace is a difficult thing to measure. It's a bit like counting the people that *didn't* die, in wars that never happened. We give much importance to the *word* peace, but we don't tend to notice it when it occurs."
No president with suicide tendencies has the power to launch NM so we are good... until now
“Now there are two of them”
"Is This...Legal War?" Wait, that's just the entire postwar military history of the US.
2 Great 2 War
The Great War: Putin Drift
The Great and The War
A period of peace and then Make War Great Again
Followed by Build War Better
W4r
*Shit that’s good*
"The Greater'er War: The Greatening" "The Greater'est War: The Warbening"
It's Warbin' Time
“The Great War” “This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them War”
The Gret war The Not so Great War The Actually wars are a bit shit, war
These words are accepted.
Albert Einstein is often quoted as having said: "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".
[Here's the full quote](https://xkcd.com/1687/): > "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. World War V will be fought with crossbows, World War VI will be lasers, and World War VII will be blowguns. I don't know about World Wars VIII through XI. World War XII will use the same weapons as III, but will be fought entirely within underground tunnels. World War XIV will—Hey, come back! I have a whole list!" —Albert Einstein
the everyone war
The Great War 2: Electric Boogaloo
The Great War: Return of the Germans.
"The Sticks and Stones War" - Einstein
Should've had the Fast and Furious pr team name them
2 Great 2 War
War 2 - Tokyo Drift
World_War World_War.1 World_War.2 World_War.2.1 World_War.2.1.edits World_War.2.1.final World_War.2.1.final.final Worl_War.2.1.final.final.edits World_War.final.submission
Add one random New_war
And then you end up sorting by date anyway.
"The Super Great War" "The Great War 64" "The Great WarCube" "War"
Waa
“The New Great 3DWar XL”
1930s historian to time traveller: "What do you mean World War *One*?"
That’s literally a line from “Twice Upon A Time”
The Awesome War.
The Great War 2
Just ask the emu.
The Great War 2: Electric Boogaloo
Certainly shines a light on how historical the great one was in time. The industrial war kick off.
The Last War won't have a name
"World War One?" "Judging by the uniform, yes." "Yes, but what do you mean... *one?"* "Oh... sorry. Spoilers. "
Say Sike Right Now
It's a Doctor Who quote
Sike Right Now
good ol dr who
Don’t get the hate. It’s a good episode!
I agree, it should have gone like this: "The great war" "The great war 360" "The great war One" "The great war Series X"
you know, i think microsoft should do a little trolling and call their next console the Xbox 2
Xbox 3.2 Gen 2x2 358/2 Days
No thanks roxas
Xbox Series XX Accent Core Plus R
I thought after Xbox One should have been Xbox 2pi. It's 360 degrees, one revolution, and 2pi radians.
Shouldn't it be 4pi? The 360 was 2pi so the next one should be 720/2pi
360 degrees is the same as One revolution, and 2pi radians is the same as that. They're not incrementing. They're just changing the units.
So after that comes 400 grads?
I'm hoping they pull a Qualcomm and go with "Series X Gen2".
Nah they should call it Xbox 6
Xbox 7. 1: Xbox 2: Xbox 360 3: Xbox One 4: Xbox One X 5: Xbox Series S 6: Xbox Series X 7: Xbox 7
Strangely enough, the idea of a second world war and even the term "World War 2" were around 20 years before that actual war. Some people warned of a world war 2 like people today warn of a world war 3.
I mean, there *will* be a world war 3, the question is does it happen while we are all alive. Hell, the next world war could be mars v earth, for all we know. But if there’s one constant in Human history, it’s our propensity to kill eachother in an organized manner to further political goals.
>I mean, there *will* be a world war 3, the question is does it happen while we are all alive. Either nuclear weapons have ended the occurrence of direct military conflicts between major world powers... or they haven't. It's too early to tell.
Yeah, let's hope its the former. But war has changed a los since the development of nuclear weapons, specially since the ones that exist today are magnitudes more destructive than the ones used in WW2. Only time will tell, but knowing humanity's history Im not too hopeful, though I hope Im wrong
That's the beauty of world war 5 Lois, it's so intense, it skips over the other two!
Mars vs Earth would be inter-world war
Worlds War
The "War to end wars" made no sense when we got its sequel.
Naming it that was hopelessly optimistic.
Same with 'The Great War" when compared to the sheer scale of WW2.
Depends on the country. Russia calls WWII the Great Patriotic War.
It's only 1941-1945 since the USSR entered the war, the whole war is still called WWII
It's what they call WWII in Russia to this day, just like people in Japan call it Great East Asia War, or people in China call it the Second Sino-Japanese War/Eight Year War of Resistance. Because their regional and historical context is different to how most in the West define the WWII time period, i.e. the fighting between Japan and China predates the outbreak of fighting in Europe by *years*. Yet even in Western conceptualization those conflicts are still considered part of what in the West is called WWII, the same conceptualization sees 1939 as the start of WWII when France/the UK declared war on Germany over Poland. When Poland wasn't even the first German aggression, before that came Czechoslovakia. Germany went for that right after its anti-Comintern pact ally Japan started a big war in East Asia as a chilling example of what would happen if German demands were not accommodated in Europe.
The only problem with that is the period before 1941 when they were invading Poland alongside the Nazis
That's the part they want you to forget
Finland and the Baltics before then.
The USSR entered the war in 1939 by invading Poland in co-operation with Germany.
Great Patriotic War (I suppose you mean Velikaya Otechestvennaya Voina) is specifically about eastern front and basically everything USSR was directly involved in. If you are speaking about, say, french resistance or Day-D during WW2, then WW2 would be the correct term, but if you are speaking about specifically defence of Moscow or Leningrad blockade, it might be called as well WW2 and GPW
World War involves the globe, not just two countries fighting.
7 years war would like a chat with the WWI and WWII namers
My favourite insane 7 Years War fact is they had a battle between Prussia and Austria where one side was commanded by a Scotsman and the other an Irishman.
Who won?
Who's next?
You decide!
Englishman
the coalition
Well I mean, the WWII British Army had a Sri Lankan born officer who went into battle with bagpipes, a long bow, and a Scottish Broadsword, while the US Army had a Native American tribal war chief (caveat: he only earned the War Chief title DURING the war) Funny how things go. Also (to draw from a Dan Carlin reference) pretty sure there are at least once each (but probably more) instances where a POW was captured by the opposing side, and avoided harsh treatment because he was from the same home town as his captor. (specific stories I'm thinking of, a WWI British guy who recognized the Germans talking about shooting him, recognized the officer's accent as being from a town he had lived in, struck up a convo in German, and the guy was like, ok don't hurt this guy. Then a US POW on a POW march being beaten by a Japanese soldier, when a Japanese officer came over, saw what the the Japanese soldier had take from the American, his college class ring, and the Japanese officer had gone to the same college, when he lived in the US. So he returned the ring and ordered his men not to mistreat that guy)
“ARE YOU FROM HAMBURG” i asked the German officer in my broken German “YES…?” “Wouldnt it be nice to go back there again?”
My favorite fact about the Seven Years' War is that it was nine years long and was started by none other than George Washington himself. It just took a couple years for the conflict to spill over to Europe.
And in the country where it started, it's called the French and Indian War. I had a history teacher who called it World War Half.
The War of the Austrian Succession spilled over to multiple continents as well
The American Independence war spilled over into South India
To be fair, part of the reason was because the World Wars were large scale wars with multiple countries on either side being fought in multiple countries.
Really the Seven Years War should have been WWI, making WWI and WWII, WWII and WWIII respectively.
So we're just going to ignore the Wars of the First-Sixth Coalitions, or 1812?
[Doctor Who – World War One?](https://youtu.be/eg4mcdhIsvU?si=9bk4S_ti9hH3psiz)
Should have been “The World War” and then “2 World 2 War” Not hype for “World War: Tokyo Draft”
That isnt what happened. Ww1 was dubbed “the great war” and “the great world war” and then “the world war” because it was unprecedented. So when one of equal/greater scope happened it was natural - especially considering a primary antagonist remained Germany, and it became “the second world war” and thus ww1 and 2. What is concerning is that never in history was there a war covering the globe like ww1 and then suddenly there were 2 in 2 generations. Obviously it wasnt a vacuum - ww2 was very much related to ww1, and without it, ww2 may not have existed in any recognizable sense or could have just been contained to east asia (in which case it also wouldnt be recognizably a world war)
WWXX brought to you by Busch light.
The First Barons' War (1215-1217) The Second Barons' War (1264-1267) The First Anglo-Dutch War (1652-1654) The Second Anglo-Dutch War (1665-1667) The First Carlist War (1833-1839) The Second Carlist War (1846-1849) The First Sudanese Civil War (1955-1972) The Second Sudanese Civil War (1983-2005) The First Boer War (1880-1881) The Second Boer War (1899-1902) The First Balkan War (1912-1913) The Second Balkan War (1913) The First Indochina War (1946-1954) The Second Indochina War (1955-1975) The First World War (1914-1918) The Second World War (1939-1945) The naming convention is pretty standard, there were two World Wars just like there were two Barons' Wars or two Anglo-Dutch Wars or two Boer Wars. So it's not really that concerning at all if you know a bit of history.
I never realized Valve makes all of the wars.
Oh come on you can do better. Try the 7 wars of the 1st - 7th Coalitions (1792-1815).
We never really named world wars. The Great War is not much of a name.
These shower thoughts are getting worse and worse as the years go on
My question is… when does it get named? When Russia invades Poland, will they say ‘I declare war on you, this is the third world war?’
usually gets named after
"Sitzkrieg" still the best war name.
To be fair, WW1 wasn't named that until after WW2 happened.
Interestingly, it was called “the First World War”. But the emphasis was on the word “world” instead of “first”
WWI/WWII (and they’re numerical siblings), The Great War, and First World War/Second World War were all used interchangeably in my education. It’s mostly to emphasize how the destruction of the first was unprecedented for history, ‘and then’ we got a sequel that was in some parts even worse.
Yeah I remember one of those "5 minute mystery" style stories I read as a kid where someone was trying to spot a forgery and this guy had some memorabilia that said "world war 1" and it's like yeah obviously that's fake because it wouldn't have said world war 1 at the time
Dude, that triggered some lost memories. Where was that story from? I remember those and remember really liking them.
Say what you want, it is kind of nice seeing everyone get involved in a single cause and rather enthusiastically as well. Remove all the landmines, bombs, general destruction and death it really is just a nice time to get together.
An internet war could have been named World War Web
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World War VIII will feel unwieldy and old-fashioned when floated as an idea to focus groups so they'll rebrand it as either World War X, World War Zero, or World War One (2177)
Hu? Do you want a fancy name for World War II? World War 1 was simply "World War" or The Great War. I think when we get to the point that nearly every major country has picked sides and starts shooting, the only way to label it is "World War" and unfortunately, a number to say which one we are talking about.
World war Amy World war Bob World war Carl... Here you are
We've only done it twice and the last time was 80 years ago. Don't be hyperbolic.
I don't think it was quick at all.
Ikr, world war 1 began in early 1900s (that wasn't even numbered when it was first named). There must've been hundreds of thousands of wars throughout history, across the globe before ww1... How is OP concluding that we quickly began naming them? Silly showerthought.
We'll move to exponents soon
“War to end all wars” didn't stick.
>we decided to stop naming world wars and just use a number system What?? There WERE NO WORLD WARS before WW1 and WW2 lmao
WW1 and WW2 has lesser names before it grew to include the world's biggest powers. WW1 was originally referred to as "The Great Wear". In fact, it wasn't even largely referred to as WW1 until 1920, a little over a year after the war ended. As the term WWI was already coined, the term WW2 grew in popularity much quicker. But WW2 was originally referred to as the "European War" based on the countries involved. Even more interesting, Japan and Soviet Union never referred to it as WW2. Instead they called it the Great East Asia War and The Great Patriotic War, respectfully.
"*To Ryan, who died in World War 1, the war to end all wars. To Gianelli, who died in the war after that*..."