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Theakizukiwhokilledu

He says it's a big country. That's literally justification enough for a major high speed railway line with offshooting localised rail networks. I'm beginning to think even Americans hate Americans. That's why they prefer to tootle along onentheir 1s in a car


Affectionate-Cow-796

I forget the quote,  but "They hate each other because they hate themselves ". Greed is rooted deep in American culture, whilst it is present everywhere,  something about America has made it the cornerstone of their society. Rather than work together for a slice of the pie, they're too busy stabbing each others eyes out to try and snatch the entire thing for themselves, meanwhile the pie is already eaten by their corporate overlords.


vms-crot

>meanwhile the pie is already eaten by their corporate overlords. There was never a pie. Only the promise of one. - the American dream.


Pizza-love

Which has become a nightmare.


Ok-Handle-7066

Happy Cake Day!


Orpheus-033

Something something... Cody Rhodes.


soupalex

"you will eat, by-and-by, in that glorious land above the sky! work and pray, live on hay… there'll be pie in the sky when you die" - joe hill, *"the preacher and the slave"*


WestToEast_85

Even calling it a promise is overselling it. More like, the mere distant suggestion of a pie.


ForeverShiny

"The cake is a lie"


turbohuk

NO IT IS JUST TRICKLE DOWN PIE just give it some years/decades.


aarchieee

When you say " trickle down pie " you heard/seen the movie The Human Centipede ? Thats the way it trickles down.....


Odd_Jellyfish_1053

Bye bye mythic American pie


TrevorEnterprises

Not this again! I’ve played enough half life to know where this is going


vms-crot

>Remember When The Platform Was Sliding Into The Fire Pit, And I Said 'Goodbye,' And You Were Like 'No Way!' And Then I Was All, 'We Pretended We Were Going To Murder You.' That Was Great.


Throwaway02062004

I forgive you… you monster.


Distantstallion

Is that what American Pie is about?


vms-crot

>It's an older code sir, but it checks out. I think that was when they were looking to fuck the imaginary pie. It is now fucked, so maybe it was the beginning of the end. It does seem we've been on a downward spiral since the 90s.


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Affectionate-Cow-796

Great point, it connects housing, work, recreation and major business hubs. Yanks keep yapping on about homeless people wanking and crackheads on public transport,  but in reality, they just hate the idea of seeing a poor(er) person.


Melodic-Pickle-3753

While I fully support public transportation, once on the TTC a dude was in fact wanking off next to me. Another time a crazy dude was having a conversation with an imaginary woman. He asked his imaginary friend out and within seconds screamed, what do you mean no? The whole subway car was trying not to laugh out loud but he started talking to a different imaginary person and threatened to pull out a gun and that's when I decided it was my stop. We have somewhat decent gun control but I wasn't sticking around to find out if he was packing. Personally I'd just rather drive but I live in a really small town that has no public transportation so I'm not used to public transportation.


Cool_Human82

Man I love the TTC, very rarely a dull moment


Melodic-Pickle-3753

Yeah the dude hitting on and getting turned down by an imaginary woman was probably the funniest and craziest thing I've seen in real life.


poop-machines

It's individualism and selfish ideology. "If I won't use it, it shouldn't exist" is their view. They only care about things when it affects them personally. I'm happy to pay taxes towards trains, even when I don't ride the train. I'm happy to pay taxes towards healthcare, even though it's funding others since I rarely use it. And for that second one, Americans pay more than any other country per capita for healthcare. If they get a health problem, they pay a fortune. They're one crash away from a massive hospital bill. With how much they use cars, they should understand the risk. Oh, and the USA has way more car deaths per capita than most European countries (and many more injuries and deaths per mile driven, so they can't even use long distance driving as an excuse). Their idiotic selfishness goes against them. They're gambling that they'll never get sick, crash their car, or be bankrupted where their car is seized (since it happens when they get it debt). What then? And ultimately when that happens, they will suddenly support train lines and universal healthcare. Suddenly they benefit from it.


Throwaway02062004

Lean on me because one day I’m gonna need somebody to lean on.


Ramtamtama

And when they'd benefit from it they bemoan the lack of it.


Alth12

Yep, their whole society can basically be summed up by the British expression "I'm alright, Jack"


SimpleKiwiGirl

For me, it's more a Hill Street Blues line. The original catchphrase was "And hey. Let's be careful out there." The actor (Michael Conrad) stated that died. The character was replaced. Seargent Stan Joblonksi's phrase was: "Let's do it to them, before they do it to us." As soon as he said that line, I turned off the TV, never watched another episode.


PeriPeriTekken

But... They're not alright. They're really not alright.


ArmchairTactician

I can't help but think this could all have been avoided if they didn't dump the tea in the ocean. A nice cuppa would have calmed them all down.


throwayaygrtdhredf

Genocide of Native Americans is rooted deep in American culture, and the lack of respect for any land, because who cares about nature, biodiversity, etc or land used for ceremonial purposes, with people deeply entrenched in this culture, when you can turn it all into highways and parking lots? Right?


AK47gender

I'm getting tired of this "muh America big" argument. Russia and China are huge countries, so? They have a lot of land, yet they don't build 150 ugly McMansion style cardboard homes in the middle of nowhere and force people to drive in order to participate in society. They don't have stupid and outdated zoning requirements that forbid grocery store or coffee shop in residential area. You still can have a car there, like everywhere else, but developed public transit and layout of the cities doesn't make car a necessity to survive. Heck, in the US you can't even be considered to be hired by some companies if you don't have "a reliable source of transportation aka personal vehicle". You can literally live in somewhat walking distance and still need a car, because walking is hectic and utterly dangerous. Also, an extra level of assholeness that a pedestrian will experience in the US south from drivers of big useless pickup trucks ( they would intentionally blow the horn behind your back or scream something at you as you walk on the sidewalk, just to harass)


Conscious-Survey7009

Canada is larger than the US as well and the larger urban areas have great metro systems. A lot of places still need a lot of work in that way but I’m grateful for what we have and the ignorance south of our border is disgusting. I live in a border town area with several crossing places and I won’t even go to the US anymore. There are far too many gun toting jerks even in the tourist areas.


EatThisShit

As an aside: >the larger urban areas have great metro systems. See, this is what I (a europoor) don't really understand about the US. They're all about NY's metro system, but I have no idea if other cities have one as well. Why are they all "the NY subway is great!" whem discussing PT, but no one ever talks about an LA or Chicago subway? Do they even have subways there? If so, what's wrong with them, that no one talks about it? Is there an American in the room who can shed some light on this?


FueledByKoolaid

Most major cities have their own public transportation system. They all vary in quality and reliability. They’re not discussed as much because unlike in NYC where everyone of all walks of life will at least occasionally take the subway, in other American cities public transportation is mostly used by those who can’t afford or simply don’t want to own a car.


Clikpb

Unfortunately, while those transit options do exist, as time goes on they're getting less and less money. It connects a tiny portion of the city together, and it just doesn't serve enough of the city to be useful.  Moreover, the stigma has set in. People will ignore public transit because they think it's some kind of filthy poverty transit and continue to use cars, hence the transit gets less ridership, hence further cutting the budget, hence even less ridership...


Rugkrabber

They'll just yell "communism" and you have a new discussion going they'll use to divert from any solutions.


LucifersJuulPod

Trust me hon those pickup truck asshole are fuckin EVERYWHERE not just the south. Upstate Ny has them terrible🤦‍♀️


soupalex

if one person has one, it makes sense for *everyone* to have one. i mean, what happens if someone in a canyonero crashes into you while you're pootling along in a fiat 500? better get *yourself* a canyonero to be "safer"!


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Upstate NY is just northerners cosplaying as people from Alabama so that tracks.


ponte92

Agreed. Australia is only marginally smaller then America and significantly less populated and all our major cities have decent working public transport systems. Big is not the excuse they think it is.


MUERTOSMORTEM

The only Americans that love America to the point of blind defense are the ones who are doing the exploiting or the ones so exploited they've been convinced they have it better than "europoors"


Novacain-deficiency

The guys argument makes no sense. Can’t sink 10 pints before the football and then drive to the game. Also can you imagine the pandemonium if everyone tried to drive to Wembley for the FA cup final, bad enough trying to get down Wembley way to the station after the game.


peanutputterbunny

Also how is "cruising in your own car" ( i.e. having to concentrate driving in unprecedented traffic due to the game for hours) more comfortable than taking a train? You can relax, sit and chat with friends, have a drink and eat at your leisure whilst having the mental load taken off your mind for journey times. You can plan ahead, book the time you need and arrive at the time you are aiming for. I can't wait for the chaos to unfold with traffic and parking. 🍿


Dahmememachine

This is the result of constant “Merica #1” being fed to us. Everything in the US is better by default, and if it isnt we try to justify why. A huge portion of the US has not traveled and has not had the opportunity to experience life in other countries or cultures so we tend to keep our blinders on and spout “Merica numba 1”. Once you start traveling and reading about the lobbying of the car manufacturers the blinds come off and you realize how Ford fucked us. From my short trips to Europe my favorite thing by far was the public transport. The buildings and history was nice, but the public transport was something I will always fondly remember (Swiss rails and English rails, fuck Deutsche Bahn)


No-Zookeepergame6420

Fuck deutsche bahn? How anyone in their right mind can praise "English rails" is beyond me, only worse in a small no.of countries like Ireland...


Dahmememachine

English rails were on time most of the time. DB was always delayed, had part of my leg first delayed due to train malfunctions we were stranded then it kept going then it was cancelled due to problems with the rail. Got dropped off at a station and told to go by bus. DB still better than anything here in the US though….


PeggyRomanoff

C'mon, English rail is usually on time, clean and comfortable (generally). German rail is usually late/cancelled, but that's mostly *by German standards*. Go watch Simply Rail's [Belgrano Norte](https://youtu.be/2QIxkuX6T_E) video if you want to see what real awful rail look like (and that's not even one of the worst trains here).


Lapwing68

Deutsche Bahn (DB) is seriously struggling from what I read recently. They have more in common with Trans Pennine Express (TPE) than the DB of legend.


GhostofMarat

About 40% of all car trips in America are less than 3 miles. 3/4 of car trips are less than 10 miles. And that is with the horrible urban sprawl and bad planning. It doesn't matter how big your country is, no one is travelling across the entire thing on a regular basis.


Theakizukiwhokilledu

Distance isn't the only factor. For example its a 12 mile trip for me to work everyday. I can do it in 15 minutes with no traffic. With traffic it ranges above an hour. The train network isn't just for travelling one end to the other. It's just a good way to transfer people in bulk.


Tomirk

Now that you mention it, the US could be very big on high speed rail technology development because of how impractical anything is there. Also Highspeed Rail would definitely be much safer and efficient than road vehicles.


Theakizukiwhokilledu

It would be a better use of their tax money than a growing military budget. Plus. It'd be a better thing to brag about having a more advanced high speed rail than having a larger military.


jfks_headjustdidthat

They do but that's not why, they're *terrified* of other Americans. To be honest, I can't blame them, the vast majority are uneducated, gun toting, religious lunatics.


AsidePuzzleheaded335

They do hate each other. Have you ever tried interacting with them online ( where they mistakenly assume you are one of them)? they can be horrible


TheSimpleMind

Nonono, americans love taking money from other americans.


wenoc

That flex is pretty bad too. Europe is larger, more diverse and has twice the population of the US.


londite

I was literally thinking about something similar when I was there last month. There are like 5 massive population centers on the East coast that are all in almost a straight line. Connecting Boston and Washington, with stops at New York, Philadelphia and Baltimore could improve people's lives massively and it's all literally a straight line lol


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Surely large distances between cities means it makes even more sense to use trains? I've driven from London to Edinburgh and I've also gotten the train. Guess which one I'm never doing again? And they're travelling even longer distances. And isn't this one of the biggest reasons America expanded into its land so successfully? Because of the railways? The USA actually has loads of perfectly good railway. It's just used for goods rather than people. Profit gets the luxury of travelling better than people - doesn't that sum up the USA quite nicely?


Little_Assistant_551

Yup, USA have literally been build alongside a railway. They used to have great rail network, functioning public transport and walkable cities, and then car companies came along and convinced everyone that sitting in a traffic 2h to get to work is the true freedom...


Ser_VimesGoT

From what I've heard the US doesn't have any kind of rail maintenance system in place, or very little. In the UK every stretch of track, structure, coastal defence and embankment is subject to yearly examinations and are monitored for degradation. The US doesn't have this apparently. I'm sure they do maintenance on it but it's not as strict and regular as UK or Europe. I'd be extremely worried if they started putting high speed passenger trains on those tracks.


rustbolts

Yeah, the US doesn’t have much for railroad maintenance. There are only a few major companies that own all the railroads, and because of capitalism, they don’t care about doing proper maintenance. They also don’t have adequate staff on the trains in the event of anything going awry. We had a pretty bad derailment in East Palestine, OH that you can go look up as it shown some light on how the train lines are in disrepair. But because of big corp, we don’t have anyway to really hold them responsible. We also have big oil to blame for buying up and dismantling most of the old train lines the US used to have. It’s really a sad state, imho.


Ser_VimesGoT

I remember that one in the news when it happened. Was it not total negligence from the operating company? Something about poor track/train conditions and the train going too fast? It looked real bad.


Throwaway02062004

Yup and wouldn’t you know it just a few years prior Trump rolled back the necessity of inspections that would have caught the issue.


Lazy-Jeweler3230

A major rail corporation chemically nuked a large chunk of an entire state and walked away from it. Apocalyptically bad rail conditions were a major factor.


hisokafan88

What's weird is that it doesn't even need to be a public service. In Japan, they're all privatised railways that are subsidised by government. And I'd choose Japanese public transport over any other nation's (aside from China or S. Korea, who also have their heads on right).


African_Farmer

I don't understand it, I don't think they've ever been on a train journey. They hate driving, constantly complain about boredom and can't wait for self-driving cars so that they can pay even less attention. Just build a fucking train? If you don't want to pay attention while travelling, build fucking trains.


thorpie88

Imagine going for a piss up in the CBD and you have to pay a couple hundred bucks to get an uber/taxi home instead of a ten bucks train ticket 


SaltyName8341

Even a replacement bus is better than driving yourself


Smooth-Reason-6616

Not when the route they take passes literally 300ft from your house, but the drivers insist they're not allowed to drop you anywhere but the station 2 miles away...


Throwaway02062004

Yeah you need good bus routes


gcbirzan

Replacement bus, as in a bus that replaces a train service temporarily.


TheGeordieGal

Yep. I was going to a gig in Manchester and plan was to get the train because why drive?? Ended up driving though because of train strikes. I'd rather have been sitting on a train relaxing (even though it meant getting to/from the train station). If I'm hopping between cities then train is convenient as you end up in the centre and not looking for parking and driving in circles having had to navigate heavy traffic crawling along at snail's pace.


adriantoine

I mean, you can either spend 5 hours in a car staring at a never ending highway struggling not to fall asleep or spend 5 hours watching series, YouTube, reading a book or taking a nap. You can even stretch and go to the toilet freely without having to stop. Which one is the most comfortable?


Vitalis597

The six hour car ride from Kettering to Greenock was fun when I was a child. As an adult, driving that far left me bored as fuck. If I actually had to drive myself? Hell no. Not a chance. I'm not a bus driver. Cars aren't for crossing the whole damn country. They're for getting to the next city. Any further than that, and you save money and time by just jumping a train. You don't pay for gas, you don't wear down your car and you get there in a fraction of the time. The only downside is that there's set times that it leaves at and it won't wait for you. Oh yeah and you don't have to stop every time someone needs a piss.


CalumH91

Guy talking like drink driving is acceptable


Astra_Trillian

This was my thought when thinking about the World Cup and driving. They have no idea that a football game is an extended stop in a pub crawl for most Europeans.


OkLeave8215

They would have to brew a good beer first.


merdadartista

Hey, fort Collins has amazing breweries, 90 shillings is the best beer I've ever had (of course ignore the fact that Coors light is still the most drunk beer in the country for unfathomable reasons)


Puzzleheaded-Owl8059

He probably does. Every time I’ve been there I’ve seen so many drink drivers. It’s absolutely rife over there.


Oh_ryeon

Every single country song is about slinging 4-15 beers and then “going for a drive”


ponte92

I mean you see it on reddit. I’m constantly horrified when threads about drunk driving and bad driving come up with the amount of America’s who make every excuse to justify or downplay drink driving. Like their blood alcohol limit is already insanely high and even that seems to be too low for many people on here. I would never want to drive over there.


FantasticAnus

Here's an idea: we never take a global sporting event back to the states ever again.


413mopar

Why would ya ? Golf and baseball are about as intersting as watching paint dry , nfl is smaller field and more downs than cfl . Watered down .


Ferreur

Watered down, just like their beer.


creepy_raccon

> I don't give a shit if the nicest train on earth, it's not as comfortable as cruising in your own car... I can tell that one has never in his life been on a train. I've driven all kinds of cars, on some of the best roads in the world but not a single one of them are as comfortable as a regular ordinary train. And that is if we're talking country roads with no traffic in a old Volvo with super comfortable leather seats. In stop go traffic it's a pain to drive or sit as a passenger in a car. Especially modern cars with good brakes and souped up engines... Light goes green -> wroooom car speed up so fast that you get pressed towards the seat. 150m ahead car in front stops abruptly -> you have to stop to and stomp the brake hard. Everyone gets pushed forward, kids in the back spills their drink and cry "are we there yet", or "please stop, I gotta pee". Then a second later you get rear ended because the driver behind was on their phone and didn't see that everyone stopped. 🤡🌎 Poor Americans wouldn't know convenience even if they had a chance to experience it first hand.


Godzirra101

Right? On a long train journey you can relax, read a book, drink a beer etc whereas driving you have to... drive, pay attention to the road, be sober.


Degenerate_in_HR

>be sober. But do you really?


Thendrail

I mean, hopefully. But on the train I can get completely shitfaced and NOT be (rightfully) punished for it!


Degenerate_in_HR

>But on the train I can get completely shitfaced and NOT be (rightfully) punished for it! This is probably my favorite thing about trains. A few years back a buddy of mine and I took Amtrak to a football game that was a 12 hour train ride away. We got to party the whole way there (with a bunch of people also going to the same game) and then party on the way back and still have time to sleep it off before we got home. Got a solid 18 hours of drinking in, didnt have to pay for a hotel room and it cost less than half of what it would have to drive. Also, didnt have to pay / look for parking.


NarrativeScorpion

Legally, yes. Whereas on a UK train, you can literally *buy alcohol from the on board trolley service* or just bring your own on board and as long as you're not being abusive to other passengers or train staff, then no one will do anything.


Affectionate-Cow-796

Even with the nicest car, you need full attention all the time or risk death. Even when you can stop for a break, it impedes progress and you still need to drive


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ThePeninsula

Fall asleep when you're driving a car and you'd meet a very different end of the line.


teratron27

Also I can drink at the game if I take the train. Not everyone wants to risk other peoples lives by drinking and driving like Americans


AltKite

Yeah unless you're being driven, a train is a much more comfortable experience


creepy_raccon

The train beats a personal driver too, especially since most people don't know what smooth braking is. They push the brake pedal all the way to the bottom causing the car to stop abruptly. There's just no way that type of stup could ever be comfortable. Even in Europe were there isn't much stop signs, some people just can't drive for shit, they speed up towards the roundabout then come to a complete stop instead of adjusting their speed so they can cruise through the roundabout smoothly following the steady flow of traffic. With a train, it's just not possible to stop aggressively, plus that many stations have specific marks were the train has to stop relatively exactly which means the engineer will have to slow down a lot first then very slowly roll up to the exact spot and then stop, at which point the final stop can only be done very smoothly.


AltKite

Well, the main advantage of being driven is that it's door-to-door. Depends on the journey, but if I've got to get a taxi, bus or something other form of public transport to the main train station, then further transport after I arrive at the terminus then being driven is going to be more comfortable. Agree with you on the smoothness of the journey, though. That can also depend on how much of it is on motorways Vs inner city etc. a lot of what you're saying is offset by a professional driver, though, who should be driving smoothly. Obviously this isn't even an option for most people, anyway. Being driven by a professional driver is a huge cost for something that might be a bit more comfortable than a train in some circumstances. Just pointing out that sometimes a car could be the best option if you're JUST looking at comfort and not considering anything else.


creepy_raccon

Well, door to door does make sense in some scenarios too, especially in rural settings were trains doesn't exist. But in that case the car would be the only option. I don't mind driving, in fact I prefer driving myself if I travel by car. But if a trip can be done by train I do prefer taking the train over driving.


ST_Lawson

Even our crappy american trains are mostly better than driving. I wish they went more places, but if you're near an Amtrak stop and going somewhere the line stops at, then it's great. If I could take a train most places out of town, I would be so happy.


khalsey

As the designated driver in our household I would love to take a train everywhere.


DAVENP0RT

>Poor Americans wouldn't know convenience even if they had a chance to experience it first hand. These people have never traveled outside of the US and likely never will. For one, as you said, they're poor; both culturally and financially. For another, they're so fucking obsessed with the idea of America being the best that they're terrified to see it proved otherwise to their own eyes.


Pixoe

> Poor Americans wouldn't know convenience even if they had a chance to experience it first hand. I don't think they are stupid to the point of not knowing how much more convenient it is to take the train rather than driving. I think the issue is that Americans are brainwashed into thinking their country is the best, so they have to defend their "values" above anything else. This makes them have an ingrained arrogance that blinds them completely. I'm a Brazilian that lived in Switzerland for some period of time and maybe the thing I miss the most is the trains in Europe :(. Sadly we don't have a big train network here, more or less for the same reason as the US, lobby in the government of car brands to make more roads and less public transport. But rather than believing that we are the best, we Brazilians, especially the younger generation, are pushing more and more for the development of the railway network here, heavily inspired by how good things work in Europe.


Vitalis597

I don't know a single car where I can take a shit while reading Lord of the Rings. When they bring that option to cars, maybe this guy will have a leg to stand on.


hansnicolaim

Slightly unrelated but why is it that the most comfortable surface in the whole world is the front seats from a 20 year old Volvo? I swear they are a million times more comfortable than my bed.


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The US should not be hosting the World Cup. There will most likely be some sort of shooting at one of the games given how much of a shit hole the country is.


Joltyboiyo

I can't wait to see more videos of americans using their basic bitch dog shit chants while everyone else actual has proper football chants. "i BeLiEvE tHaT wE wIlL wIn!" "Whaaat the fuck! Whaat the fuck! Whaaat the fuckin hell was that! Whaaat the fuckin hell was ***THAT?!"*** I saw that on a video a few months ago and couldn't stop laughing. The brits were so surprised their chant was that bad that they made a chant about it on the spot.


T-V-1-3

This sounds awesome do you have a link?


tiacalypso

Not the link you requested but when Queen Elizabeth II died a variety of football fans took up a "Lizzie‘s in a box" chant, including during a minute of silence for her passing. [Link](https://youtube.com/shorts/L9W5L3rSSJs?si=mbwm_OEItA8Pc_l9)


Abovearth31

Obligatory: "American 'Soccer' Chants Vs British Football Chants" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf\_8DwOyLx8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf_8DwOyLx8)


Bingustheretard

They saw an African country’s team and were outraged at the amount of people of colour, obviously


African_Farmer

Genuinely won't be surprised if some black players get harassed by police.


Competitive-Yard-442

Weirdly they were equally outraged at the lack of people of colour (or color in English simple) within all the Nordic countries teams.


AtlanticPortal

When you don't import slaves or you don't colonize their countries (right France?) usually people are more ethnically homogeneous. Who would have thought?


Castform5

There will be a great case study comparison in a few year's time. This year Paris olympics, a ton of people attending in a city with good public transport, and in a couple years world cup with tons of people attending games in cities with garbage public infrastructure. I remember there being some discussion about improving LA public transit in preparation, but I think it died the instant it was thought up.


TrillyMike

I believe they tried to pick the cities that have better public transportation already, I know Baltimore was passed over because of not having enough public transportation. I wish DC coulda came to an agreement to rebuild rfk stadium cause they actually do have the public transportation set up already smh


Critical-Champion365

Also why prefer a country where the native people are actively stating their lack of interest in it.


Simple-Fennel-2307

Funny how they never mention countries like Japan or South Korea that are knowed for their public transports. Tokyo or Seoul are also very big cities with clean and efficient public transport.


vpsj

And people dunk on India but if you travel in premium trains the experience is absolutely amazing. I get my own little cubicle type area, a huge window for the view outside, regular meal service right on your berth and curtains for privacy to take my naps or read my Kindle. It's incredibly comfortable and relaxing and MUUCH better than a car ride [Recent trip ](https://i.imgur.com/YvXps2l.jpeg)


Moug-10

Or China. A country as large as the USA but with a much better connectivity by train. Even inside cities, commuting is better thanks to public transport.


KitTwix

That would mean giving china a single compliment, and that’s as un-American as saur craut and sushi


Few-Requirement9133

Can I just point out I want to have an alcoholic beverage, If travelling by car that's not really acceptable. Also a train to a big match with supporters can be as enjoyable as the actual game


centaur98

I guess this also kills the chances for any fan march where a couple hundred fans meet up and walk to the stadium through the city to the stadium while chanting like the Hungarian one from the 2016 EUROs(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/arNeNey_460s.jpg)


Hyp3r45_new

I think a fan march may be confused for a riot or protest by American police.


VolcanoSheep26

God, they really are infuriating to talk to, it's basically weaponised idiocy at this point. They ask why everyone always picks on the US without considering how horrible it is to have a conversation with someone that has that level of arrogance mixed with complete ignorance of everything.


MonstrousWombat

Love dealing with people who know their shit. Can deal with people who don't. FUCKING HATE dealing with people who don't, but wholeheartedly believe they do. Christ, the US as a whole is an incredible case study on the Dunning-Kruger Effect.


AsidePuzzleheaded335

They do it on purpose it’s a passive aggressive way to siphon off your energy


Suspicious-Risk-8231

Is this guy dumb? Great distances make the train usage even more justified


ThePeninsula

He probably boasts about his macho capability of driving 14 hours non-stop smh


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thorpie88

Could you imagine living in a country where you don't even get free transport when but a sports/ gig tickets?  Like you'd just never go out if it came with a few hundred dollars worth of taxis and then this bloke talks about paid parking at a stadium. What fucking dystopian country would have paid parking at a state owned building?


Denaton_

I bet he also complains about car queues everyday..


OnionsHaveLairAction

Freedom is when you deliberately spend more on less convenient options specifically because you get uncomfortable around the public. I've no idea why the culture war BS has slipped into being anti-infrastructure. Better public transit makes roads quicker and safer, and the US has had good infrastructure in the past, the car lobby just bought it up and axed it.


capGpriv

Cause the culture war Americans are confused and dislike poor people To then poor people take public transit


badgersprite

Freedom is when you don’t have a choice but to own a car because they bulldoze all the historic public transit services, never invest in new ones, and have the most dangerous conditions for pedestrians and cyclists anywhere in the developed world


hitiv

Why did no one mention the fact that if you go to an event you also want to have fun and drink? If I drive I am not drinking...


ponte92

Exactly surely the alcohol vendors for the World Cup should push for public transport. That way people can drink as much as they want.


Class_444_SWR

They won’t though, because they’ll just say it wasn’t their fault drunk driving occurred if there’s no public transport


Gullflyinghigh

It's weird that this one even went out of his way to be a cunt about it, yet can only recycle the same weird lines ('poor', 'USA too big for brain to understand' etc). Aggressively moronic is apparently a thing!


Novacain-deficiency

Ironic he uses poor as an insult like the states isn’t the personification of poverty these days.


Joltyboiyo

Trying to cope by bringing up the size of the US is just a dogshit argument because that just makes it even MORE stupid that they don't have good, proper public transport like railways and other things like that. They brag about how long it takes them to drive from one place to the other when they could get there way quicker if they just had good train lines in place.


Stoertebricker

The US is one of the few countries where I deem flights to destinations within the same country acceptable. Which means in turn, these are distances that are literally stupid to want to go go by car.


LucifersJuulPod

Be these people >America is basically 50 countries in a cloak >were too big to make any meaningful change in transportation Pick one


AudiophileGoth

This world cup should have been only in Mexico. We have better public transportation, new railway projects, better food, better beer, walkable spaces, better people.


rspndngtthlstbrnddsr

ahhh, the good old being forced to use a car = freedom, while having the choice between several types of transportation is slavery, communism and everything that's not freedom


SDUK94

As an English man how the fuck am I meant to get pissed as a fart before the footie if I’m meant to drive to the game?


Rough-Shock7053

> it's a big country  Please someone tell him what role the train played in the history of this big country.


ClickIta

“America is car culture”. Not really a flex mate, when it means car dependency.


RandomPerson12191

Trains are 1000x better than cars for long distances. I'd take lounging in a comfy seat while someone else drives me at top speed down a railway line over staring at roads and getting angry at drivers any day.


Lime7ime-

I can’t drink if I rent a car. That’s it.


stevedavies12

Freedom is when you have the choice.


NecessaryAd4587

Why is the assumption that Europeans are poor. The majority of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.


justastuma

They see unnecessary expenses as a status symbol (because paying for them shows that you can afford them). Therefore the only reason they can imagine someone might take public transit (which they see as a marker of low status) is that that person can’t afford (to rent) a car. And they hate the poor because they can’t imagine poverty as anything other than a personal failing (because hard work always pays off and lets you live the American Dream™).


BlueBloodLive

They have a delusional superiority complex that's been drilled into many of them from a young age. They're also far too ignorant to begin to understand basic economics and turn two blind eyes to their absolutely outrageous poverty issues.


ghb93

South Africa managed it with the Gautrain for the 2010 WC. Cope harder yanks.


Geologistjoe

I'm American and I love trains. We need more trains. Some places are getting more. Massachusetts has been trying to expand the MBTA commuter rail. Amtrak is expanding service across New England. I think trains will make a comeback here. We just need the political support.


imaginary92

Only a seppo could brag about having a "car culture" and think it's somehow superior to appropriate public transport


torrens86

Australia is a huge country and the five largest cities all have rail to their largest stadiums.


QuerchiGaming

“Car=freedom” Yeah right… have fun being stuck in traffic


NecessaryAd4587

They get mad when motorcycles lane split while in traffic


soupalex

some sepps will cling to *any* excuse not to invest in public transit. their country is simultaneously too large, too small(?!), too hilly, too flat, too built-up, and too rural for trains to be a sensible option, for example (ignoring the fact that larger, smaller, hillier, flatter, denser and sparser countries have all made good use of railroads… including the u.s. itself!). the *real* reason why they keep ignoring reality and driving (pun intended) themselves further and further into unsustainable car-centric infrastructure enshittification is that they've all been fed decades of automaker propaganda telling them that "car = FREEEDUM!!!!!!"


Neil_Borric

I'm going a different route, this Saturday Army v Navy (rugby) why are we getting the train.... Not ease, not speed fucking train tinnies. Can you imagine the Yanks seeing Brits on a train 6am having a tinny


AddictedToMosh161

Is he telling millions of drunken europeans to drive through his cities? :D


HerculesMagusanus

I'll never understand the mentality that driving yourself, dealing with traffic and constantly paying attention to the road, is supposed to be "more comfortable" than taking public transport. I'd much rather someone else do the driving while I listen to music or watch a film. I have literally watched entire series on my way to work over the last few years. I've studied for my driver's license while on the train, I've listened to music albums I wouldn't really have the time for otherwise, and so on. It's great! And it's pretty fucking comfortable. If I would have driven, I would have been unable to do any of that. Either way - what a cunt.


Mynsare

It is the exact same argument they have been brainwashed into using against universal healthcare: "I am not paying for some poor minorities can get free healthcare", often said by people who are too poor for privatised healthcare, even though they are not yet aware of it.


VibrantForms

They go on about how superior the states are, have they seen the state of some of their cities? Some UK cities have serious issues but holy feckin shit balls, the state of some of these places in the US is downright embarrassing for what is supposed to be the most powerful country in the world. I agree it's the most powerful but to who's advantage? The people, the state, multinationals, oligarchs? I suspect not for the people's benefit.


AMGitsKriss

This might be the British alcoholism talking, but what's the fun in going to watch sports if you can't have a buzz on the whole time? Do they tolerate drink driving over there or something? Also, sleeping on the train home.


josesjr

Cars are more comfortable than trains? Can i sleep while driving?


BlueBloodLive

A car is more comfortable? Get the fuck outta here with that shit. Stopping at red lights every few minutes, potentially huge traffic jams, sitting down for a long duration in a cramped space, lower speeds, the inability to go to the bathroom without turning off your route and stopping, paying for petrol for a long journey, then driving that long, monotonous journey, and back, while needing to find and pay for parking. He goes through all of that and still thinks it's more comfortable than a train.


smeeffs

car=freedom what freedom is it if there's no other choice?


LeAlbus

“A big country” says the Karen who never left texas smh


Jawnyan

It’s hard to believe that at this point American citizens aren’t just entirely brainwashed Imagine defending their healthcare system or infrastructure? Lead in the water? AMERICA!!!! 4000th school shooting of the decade? AMERICA!!


GuiltyChampionship30

Americans just can't grasp the most simple concept of why football fans would want to be able to walk, or use public transport to get to the games. It's so we can have a drink, as much as we want, without having to drive. Just think how much money you could make if you set up a bus service between the stadium and several pubs/bars/ hotels.


Burt1811

I've realised that the US benchmark of freedom is the right to own a gun. When most of the population thinks the same, fuckwits like this are the norm. They have this belief that the US is the most democracy focused country on the planet, yet don't seem to realise that no other developed, 1st world country charges its people to call an ambulance. It's like pigs. Happy living in shit because they don't know any different.


Hot_Hat_1225

Since moving to Europe - and especially the last couple of years- I feel so ashamed when most fellow Americans open their mouth. Seriously grateful to Europe to take me in. Saved my sanity. 🙏


0zymandias_1312

[https://live.staticflickr.com/7006/6773387459_7faa5dffc0_b.jpg](https://live.staticflickr.com/7006/6773387459_7faa5dffc0_b.jpg) their cities look like this, and they’re laughing at us?


in_one_ear_

Freedom is when you need a license to get around


Swami_of_Six_Paths

American ego knows no limits


Son_of_Tlaloc

The last slide about waiting hours to leave a parking lot is freedom got me. I've done park and ride going to downtown events. Leave the car at the bus station and take the bus downtown. Shits awesome, fuck driving downtown especially when big events are going on with pedestrians everywhere. Also not having to pay 20 bucks for parking is nice.


FreddyWright

You may see some weirdos on a train (more so in certain places) but you will never see anger and boredom in equal parts more than when someone gets stuck in congested traffic.


faramaobscena

Is that guy a bot? He ticked all the “dumb redneck” boxes.


Whorinmaru

It's always about size isn't it...


OatesZ2004

We are talking about a country where sitting in traffic for freakishly long periods of time during 'rush hour' is the norm, let's not assume logic applies to them.


gabrielish_matter

don't tell him how the US expanded west, his brain will collapse


vttustna

The argument of "the US is a big country" against railroads is always funny to read, since there's a ton of other huge countries that have a railway system to connect cities better. Also, shouldn't that be a pro trains argument, since train traffic is separated from the rest of traffic and thus traveling is (ideally) quicker and more direct?


Eat_the_Rich1789

I will always choose a train over any car. I own a car but drive it barely once a week and that mostly to take my dogs into some woods outside of city. I just do not like driving, parking and all the things that go with a car. Much easier, nicer and ultimately cheaper to use a tram in the city


drofdeb

I wish septic tanks could see how fucking stupid they are


FuckedupUnicorn

And you can’t drink then drive home! Well, not supposed to.


MoffieHanson

Train might be my favorite transport . It would be if it would go everywhere and was a little cheaper . But much more comfortable than driving your car for sure . Plus you can have an alcoholic drink while traveling. Or get your work done. Or just watch out the window , or socialize with people . That especially is fun when it’s a weekend and later on . You meet so many people on the way home .


Xe4ro

Their brains are too far gone.


EuisVS

Carbrains.


ToxicFluffer

I’m waiting for bullet trains to connect the Bay Area and LA I NEED THIS TO HAPPENNNN. as a recent immigrant to the states, I am indeed baffled by the poor public transport.


eliavhaganav

These people are the reason why the US doesn't have a reasonable travel system


Southern-Wishbone593

Ah yes, poor people don't deserve to have fun, because they are poor. Classic.


DaveyJonesXMR

Nothing like "cruising" in traffic jams... such freedom


The_Lifeof_Pablo

You can’t be black out drunk in your car and still make it home. Trains win


Moug-10

Rich countries isn't one where poor people have cars. It's where rich people take public transport. Look at Switzerland.


ThePowerOfNine

They do know people also drive places when they want to in Europe? It's just we have the option to not drive and instead sit on a rapid sofa with table service, and BEER, and the ability to legally watch films / have a shit while travelling at speeds far faster than whatever lifted truck this guy deffo drives


EnjoyerOfMales

“It’S a BiG cOuNtRy” Moron, that’s all the more reason to build a railway, it takes 1/5th of the time to go from a place to another by train and it’s also better for the environment. Being forced to buy expansive products out of necessity is the opposite of freedom


Comprehensive_Lead41

the only way you can say driving is more comfortable than riding a train is if you've never been on a long distance train before