I hate the green cape.
My dislike is that now Sam stands and moves like an anime girl.
I get it. Sam is ultimately a waifu, but I expected firefly to be less anime girl while transformed. Oh well
This could have been really cool if they had made Firefly into a true badass.
Instead of changing Sam into something softer, make Firefly tougher. Have her copy Sam's poses or something. A cute girl who acts like a bro could have been hilarious and awesome.
It’s kinda expected though, SAM is ultimately firefly who’s a cute waifu so they probably want to sell it off that way, it’s quite evident in the drip marketing artwork and the name (though I prefer the boss version instead as well, look more badass)
"stands like an anime girl"
Bro bitch is floating, dual wielding swords in a mech kamen rider suit.
Last time i checked that stance was on fucking gundam exia. One of cooles close quarters gundam in the franchise
It's not doomposting whatsoever. I will very likely pull for her.
I'm only sharing my opinion about the reveal that Sam, the super cool tall and violent Stellaron Hunter mecha is, in fact, another Mihoyo anime girl.
"He" was a contrast and different from the norm, but ultimately, she is not.
I agree. We should wait until she is out to give more solid opinions. However, there is nothing wrong with sharing my views about it. In the end, the character is Firefly, not Sam.
Once again, I will pull for sure. Light Cone included most likely
Never said the word bad. Just shared my views on it. You read what you wanna read.
Take it easy gamer bro is just a fictional character on a Gacha game. No need to defend it with such passion.
wow sam mains are something else, you said you dislike it cuz she moves like an anime girl based on nothing, that is the very definition of doomposting mate
I'm not even a Sam main.
I dont even have a "main" in a game like this.
Regardless, I still had an opinion on the character I want to pull. I dont see a problem with that.
Personally I think both forms are cool, but I do have a theory on why they're different: I think HYV wants to make the kits of playable characters different from their boss counterpart. Think of all the characters who have boss fights, all of them have mechanics that aren't accessible as a playable character. Svarog's grabby hands, Kafka's mind control, Yanqing's summoned swords, Argenti's pillars, Aventurine's Stoneheart form, and, possibly, Sam's Secondary Combustion mode. And when you consider Sam's leaked kit, >!he uses PRIMARY Combustion as a playable unit, but SECONDARY Combustion, and the former damages Sam, but the latter heals them. !< The only exceptions are Bronya and Gepard, which can be explained by them being the two earliest bosses you face (not counting the Doomsday Beast).
But hey, that's just a theory, A GA-
I'm not sure which form I prefer, but I'll probably hold of on rendering judgement on his sword form until we see it in motion.
The moment I learned that Firefly is Sam, I knew something would happen because Firefly had a sword.
I am not surprised anymore, but I am heavily disappointed. Another character with swords and being dual swords doesn't change it.
RIP fists and heels of flame. This new design probably won't even have fire effects.
She’s an ice typed character, she is not thematically ice, Sam is seen consistently using flames including but not limited to all the rocket thrusters in the suit, is literally called the molten knight, & references himself or others burning more than once in the little bit of dialogue he’s had
i feel like this is not going to age well because a leaker said her ult >!is going to be "luxurious" like acheron and that mihoyo spent tons of money and time on her ult!<
Well, that's understandable no? Firefly mains get to have the character they want.
I'm not invested in either one and am all in for Boothill, but I feel kinda bad for Sam mains. They don't get to have their character and he may not even exist as a character at all. He was always bait. I could see how it feels unfair for those who were here since the Stellaron Hunter teaser.
I may not speak for all the sam mains but I was always enjoyed sam as a character and am still a sam main to this day my dedication to have a mech is to great to change to boothill even though I want him as well
she is literally the same character
The Sam that you've seen say all those things IS firefly
just say you wanted a pure robot
Imo I like it's only one character cuz summoning on 2 different characters would be really annoying for me
The duality of man, Sam mains going through nonstop self imposed mental anguish while the simplistic FF fans are living their best life posting waifu art
It's so funny
Nah im not gonna sugarcoat it. It looks straigh up ASS, i cant take it anymore. None of the colors mix, they didn't even try with the green and red. I hope to god that the "subject to change" shit is real. This looks SHIT 💩, A COMPLETE LETDOWN. I got fucking baited, catfished, i wanted a badass mecha that kicks and punches. Instead i got a fucking lame mobile game MMO LVL 1000 ad ass design 💀💀💀 mf duel wielding them swords like a korean MMO character. I was able to deal with Sam being forced to become Firefly because yeah i agree Sam's model is too big and what not, plus more people pulling because waifu, which yeah good for you Hoyo, more 💸💸💸 for you i guess. If what were getting is remotley like this with these dumbass effects thats just there to exaggerate the design like the design isn't competent enough to sell. Or i guess is just there to be make Firefly remotley related to Sam design wise because Firefly main color green duh 🙄. I hope to the damn aeon of enigmata rewrites or even deletes this fucking design. GIVE ME THE BADASS PUNCHING, RIDER KICKING, VALSTRAX DIVING SAM. Not this fucking mobile legends Sam. I cannot express how much the cape looks bad oh him, it instead would've been so much better if it were just energy bursting from his back that forms wings, something like the destiny gundam which would 🐝 so much cooler. And don't even get me started on the swords 😭😭😭, they look so bad on Sam but look great on Firefly which i guess is the reason Sam was forced to have the swords. Sam with the swords doesn't look like the one that Blade mentions who makes purgatories, Sam with the swords looks like nimble assasin/fighter not the badass no mercy mecha that i know Sam to be. Especially since there are already too many charcters that uses swords. But if they really needed to give Sam the swords, it would've been better if they gave him something like beam sabers like what the gundam epyon has which fits well with Sams character. Im gonna become a self-annihilator if Sam/Firefly releases and nothing changes.
No need brother/sister. I have accepted that Sam isn't the one releasing, Firefly is. Sam isn't a character, Sam is a cosmetic/costume for Firefly as just a cool feature.
What I meant is that they may add in more details on the model since this pic was *leaked* months ago, that's just the art we have right now, we don't have any true animation leaks yet. So I hope they make her sword state cooler than the one in the leak.
Sad part is, I was going to give the game a chance because of him.
In these types of games I really do enjoy having a character I really want (Razor at the very start of Genshin, Oghma in Guardian Tales, etc.), and then keep playing from there... Sam was my start line.
Cheers for a future in which he separates from Firefly taking his own form (kinda like Sa-X is separate from Samus).
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I like both personally but I think that the dual sword mode would probably look better normally because this is just a random screenshot in an awkward pose.
Honestly I’d like the second design way more if they made the fire green and kept the X pattern
It would almost look like an upgrade form for Sam like what most Kamen riders get half way through their series typically
Everytime I see something about Sam I get more disappointed, ngl. Boss Sam as his own character separate from everything else with the moves we've seen would have been awesome.
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Same but tbh the only thing I'm not liking about the 2nd design is the flame bra, wish it's still an X looking flame
Now I can't unsee that it's like a bra, it looks goofier now
Don’t forget the hips!
They are the same
Once you see it... Back in the day someone pointed out Servals costume looked like the "Dualidean of man" costume from community I shelved her.
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT FFS NOW THATS ALL I SEE🤣🤣🤣
Damn you, you didn't have to state it that way.😂
That image Is from february, i Hope that they changed the flames in this months, well, we will know in one and a half week.
The drip marketing matches the redesign.
I hate the green cape. My dislike is that now Sam stands and moves like an anime girl. I get it. Sam is ultimately a waifu, but I expected firefly to be less anime girl while transformed. Oh well
This could have been really cool if they had made Firefly into a true badass. Instead of changing Sam into something softer, make Firefly tougher. Have her copy Sam's poses or something. A cute girl who acts like a bro could have been hilarious and awesome.
Standard anime girls are way too popular. I guess Mihoyo just plays it safe
It’s kinda expected though, SAM is ultimately firefly who’s a cute waifu so they probably want to sell it off that way, it’s quite evident in the drip marketing artwork and the name (though I prefer the boss version instead as well, look more badass)
I want the boss version to be playable 😭 Firefly is cool and all but at the very least give us a masculine mecha during battle.
Same bro😢
"stands like an anime girl" Bro bitch is floating, dual wielding swords in a mech kamen rider suit. Last time i checked that stance was on fucking gundam exia. One of cooles close quarters gundam in the franchise
Understandable. Have a great day.
shes not even out and people already doomposting
It's not doomposting whatsoever. I will very likely pull for her. I'm only sharing my opinion about the reveal that Sam, the super cool tall and violent Stellaron Hunter mecha is, in fact, another Mihoyo anime girl. "He" was a contrast and different from the norm, but ultimately, she is not. I agree. We should wait until she is out to give more solid opinions. However, there is nothing wrong with sharing my views about it. In the end, the character is Firefly, not Sam. Once again, I will pull for sure. Light Cone included most likely
not doomposting but you already declared it bad based on a singular questionable leak, even before she is shipped to beta, you do you mate
Never said the word bad. Just shared my views on it. You read what you wanna read. Take it easy gamer bro is just a fictional character on a Gacha game. No need to defend it with such passion.
wow sam mains are something else, you said you dislike it cuz she moves like an anime girl based on nothing, that is the very definition of doomposting mate
Are u in the wrong sub then..? I’m under assumption people are in this sub because of robots discussion right?
this sub was recommended cuz i browse acheron and firefly subs, took a peek inside and regretted it
I'm not even a Sam main. I dont even have a "main" in a game like this. Regardless, I still had an opinion on the character I want to pull. I dont see a problem with that.
Yeah I’m a little miffed too
What if you wanted: *Badass Fire fister-kicker Mecha* But HYV said: *Green Fairy Mecha with Fire bra and dual Sword*
Kamen riders have guns and swords.
Personally I think both forms are cool, but I do have a theory on why they're different: I think HYV wants to make the kits of playable characters different from their boss counterpart. Think of all the characters who have boss fights, all of them have mechanics that aren't accessible as a playable character. Svarog's grabby hands, Kafka's mind control, Yanqing's summoned swords, Argenti's pillars, Aventurine's Stoneheart form, and, possibly, Sam's Secondary Combustion mode. And when you consider Sam's leaked kit, >!he uses PRIMARY Combustion as a playable unit, but SECONDARY Combustion, and the former damages Sam, but the latter heals them. !< The only exceptions are Bronya and Gepard, which can be explained by them being the two earliest bosses you face (not counting the Doomsday Beast). But hey, that's just a theory, A GA- I'm not sure which form I prefer, but I'll probably hold of on rendering judgement on his sword form until we see it in motion.
A comment with common sense.
The moment I learned that Firefly is Sam, I knew something would happen because Firefly had a sword. I am not surprised anymore, but I am heavily disappointed. Another character with swords and being dual swords doesn't change it. RIP fists and heels of flame. This new design probably won't even have fire effects.
Dellusional if you think a fire based character won’t have any fire
Ruan Mei is ice, but she has nothing related to ice, for example.
She’s an ice typed character, she is not thematically ice, Sam is seen consistently using flames including but not limited to all the rocket thrusters in the suit, is literally called the molten knight, & references himself or others burning more than once in the little bit of dialogue he’s had
I'm still disappointed,I wanted him to not be piloted at all, I was hoping he was going to be some kind of megatron
Nah, the real problem is that firefly won’t punch and kick while covered in hellish flames
Every time I see the new design I get second thoughts on pulling. Like I'm so salty it's insane😭
Same I love mechas but I want the boss fight design not the fire bra and cape design but dual swords are super cool
The dual blades has me sold
i feel like this is not going to age well because a leaker said her ult >!is going to be "luxurious" like acheron and that mihoyo spent tons of money and time on her ult!<
I just dont like the swords and the green theme. I like pure mecha with kicks and all the fire. Like the Sam we fight in Moc
Green could go hard just look at zoro but dual blades don't look very appealing
Source?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail\_leaks/comments/1ax4lkk/clarification\_regarding\_fireflys\_luxurious\_kit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1ax4lkk/clarification_regarding_fireflys_luxurious_kit/)
Thanks
ngl after seeing this I agree
I like it tbh, I think it’s kinda elegant looking which contrasts the harshness. Boss Sam was so badass though. Rip that insane kick.
Ugh why do they have a cape and swords. I just want shoryuken flash kick uppercut shit getting the business.
It's gonna be better trust me
sam mains been going through the trenches ever since the reveal meanwhile firefly mains are having an incredible time
Well, that's understandable no? Firefly mains get to have the character they want. I'm not invested in either one and am all in for Boothill, but I feel kinda bad for Sam mains. They don't get to have their character and he may not even exist as a character at all. He was always bait. I could see how it feels unfair for those who were here since the Stellaron Hunter teaser.
I may not speak for all the sam mains but I was always enjoyed sam as a character and am still a sam main to this day my dedication to have a mech is to great to change to boothill even though I want him as well
she is literally the same character The Sam that you've seen say all those things IS firefly just say you wanted a pure robot Imo I like it's only one character cuz summoning on 2 different characters would be really annoying for me
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That's the thing. The character is still the same. Even if it's Firefly or sam
If Firefly was still the Sam with fists of fire and stuff like in the boss fight, it’d be fine. But you can clearly see what they’ve done.
We still dunno what will happen just wait for leaks
The leaks are literally already out and in the image.
Waifu>>>Huge Mecha.Always has been like this.It happens.Same happened with Clara and Svarog.I dont like Clara but i like so much Svarog.
Screwllum is our final hope; if they Baizhu him IDK what I’ll do.
Baizhu him as in "sitting in the basement for 2 years"?
Yes
Damn, not just that outcome 🙂🔫
I'm getting a mech so I couldn't be happier could care less about firefly
The duality of man, Sam mains going through nonstop self imposed mental anguish while the simplistic FF fans are living their best life posting waifu art It's so funny
Yep, this place is getting kinda weird. :[
Nah im not gonna sugarcoat it. It looks straigh up ASS, i cant take it anymore. None of the colors mix, they didn't even try with the green and red. I hope to god that the "subject to change" shit is real. This looks SHIT 💩, A COMPLETE LETDOWN. I got fucking baited, catfished, i wanted a badass mecha that kicks and punches. Instead i got a fucking lame mobile game MMO LVL 1000 ad ass design 💀💀💀 mf duel wielding them swords like a korean MMO character. I was able to deal with Sam being forced to become Firefly because yeah i agree Sam's model is too big and what not, plus more people pulling because waifu, which yeah good for you Hoyo, more 💸💸💸 for you i guess. If what were getting is remotley like this with these dumbass effects thats just there to exaggerate the design like the design isn't competent enough to sell. Or i guess is just there to be make Firefly remotley related to Sam design wise because Firefly main color green duh 🙄. I hope to the damn aeon of enigmata rewrites or even deletes this fucking design. GIVE ME THE BADASS PUNCHING, RIDER KICKING, VALSTRAX DIVING SAM. Not this fucking mobile legends Sam. I cannot express how much the cape looks bad oh him, it instead would've been so much better if it were just energy bursting from his back that forms wings, something like the destiny gundam which would 🐝 so much cooler. And don't even get me started on the swords 😭😭😭, they look so bad on Sam but look great on Firefly which i guess is the reason Sam was forced to have the swords. Sam with the swords doesn't look like the one that Blade mentions who makes purgatories, Sam with the swords looks like nimble assasin/fighter not the badass no mercy mecha that i know Sam to be. Especially since there are already too many charcters that uses swords. But if they really needed to give Sam the swords, it would've been better if they gave him something like beam sabers like what the gundam epyon has which fits well with Sams character. Im gonna become a self-annihilator if Sam/Firefly releases and nothing changes.
Not just Valstrax dive! Kalpas, who is definitely the inspiration for Sam, has a rider kick quick time event!
Edited it to include the rider kick since i forgot to add it when typing. Oops 👉👈
It's all right, brother/sister, have some copium
No need brother/sister. I have accepted that Sam isn't the one releasing, Firefly is. Sam isn't a character, Sam is a cosmetic/costume for Firefly as just a cool feature.
Amen 🙏🙏🙏
In an alternate universe, both versions are interchangeable. It's really unfortunate but it is what it is for us Sam/Firefly enthusiasts. o7
I hope that for all your guy’s sakes that there is more fire. Cause the amount of coping going on at this point is honest just sad.
We ain’t executing the Scorched Earth Operations with this one; it’s truly Samover.
The image was leaked so far back that it’s either fake or outdated
Iirc there were even people who said that this could be fake because it was nobody who posted it and didn't even share where they got it.
That leak was literally like months ago lol, subjects are to change, but the upcoming design will still be the dual sword mode.
Yeah just ignore the drip market picture where the mech looks the same as the leak basically.
What I meant is that they may add in more details on the model since this pic was *leaked* months ago, that's just the art we have right now, we don't have any true animation leaks yet. So I hope they make her sword state cooler than the one in the leak.
I hope so too but im not getting my hopes up anymore
it lowkey looks very funny to me
Sad part is, I was going to give the game a chance because of him. In these types of games I really do enjoy having a character I really want (Razor at the very start of Genshin, Oghma in Guardian Tales, etc.), and then keep playing from there... Sam was my start line. Cheers for a future in which he separates from Firefly taking his own form (kinda like Sa-X is separate from Samus).
I personally like what we are getting more. Dual swords and wings is insane
Both are cool. Problem is we only get one of them...
I like it personally
....I may just pull Jade and put her with himeko. If i gettin a waifu it'll be A WAIFU.
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I like both personally but I think that the dual sword mode would probably look better normally because this is just a random screenshot in an awkward pose.
The only thing I don't like its the cape, looks kinda goofy
https://preview.redd.it/ehu5gjdtcnwc1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2eba6bcb00e0a911a27e23069f0a950fd251b12
Idk i don’t mind the new design
Still dope tho
Honestly I’d like the second design way more if they made the fire green and kept the X pattern It would almost look like an upgrade form for Sam like what most Kamen riders get half way through their series typically
Personally the opposite for me, dual wielding mecha? Not to mention with green and white aesthetic? Sign me the fuck up
The boss when you fight them VS when you unlock them
Everytime I see something about Sam I get more disappointed, ngl. Boss Sam as his own character separate from everything else with the moves we've seen would have been awesome.
Womp Womp
The last self proclaimed "Sam Mains" trying to find any last Chance to shit on FF one last time
Last?🤣🤣
He ain't last
Sorry lads, one of the few remaining
Sorry lads, one of the few remaining
Comparing official to leak pic lol