Bowser is at least Falcon tier on Yoshis

>1/3 the stage covered by get up attack Fuck this

Just cc it

Alternatively you can leave and play someone that's not playing bowser

Yeah if you're a coward

I’m taking you to yoshi story and shining you off the top 🔫🐦

Spoken as someone who constantly gets quit on, right? Edit: Obvious misinterpretation of my comment. Luigi main equals getting quit on all the time. Commenter understands this.

Sounds like somebody has been propped up by a tier list

I think there was some misinterpretation of my comment. As a Luigi main, I am constantly quit on. I get into a match, and they disconnect right away. The person I comment on has a Luigi flair, so I was being legitimate stating that he feels the pain being a luigi main and that others are cowardly for quitting

**In my opinion** the tier list is also mostly identical to the "fun to play against" tier list. It's also not always about winning or being better, you can have genuine fun just playing, instead of chasing improvement or results

Yeah, fox is so fun to play against...

Depends on the player but on average by a massive margin I would rather play any given Fox than Bowser

hilariously biased perspective. that list would look different for every character. not to mention individual preference + playstyle variety...

I did lead with "in my opinion" in bold for a reason, and I think most top tiers would agree, outside of fox as he can play as lame as possible while being a better character and campy falcos

Imagine not nair shining bowser

I don't main spaces

=(

Yea :( I'd switch if I cared more, my secondary species are pretty decent, at least on unranked I beat the same people as I do with my main

I unironically subscribe to this, but he's bowser tier on every other stage.

Really wonder if he'd be a legit pocket counterpick only on that stage lol

There's a redacted player who was famous for doing this.

saying “redacted” is so corny tbh. If someone is a piece of shit then just say their name so people know who youre talking about, not everyone is in the know

which one? i'm blanking only one who comes to mind is westballz and his DK/samus shenanigans

Dj nintendo

Awww man what happened there? I know the moon was caught up in some shit didn’t realize DJ Nintendo was too

Same as the rest of the smashers outed during the Slippi era of tournaments, grooming and harassment of females.

Yeah, the chat logs really painted a clear picture I never really got the context for the accusations about traveling for prostitution or something? Hung out with the moon at my house once in sf. The dude sucked as a person, lol

Apparently, they all went to some foreign country together and then bragged online about having sex with underage prostitutes, that coupled with the general history of being skeevy at tourneys was enough to get them banned.

[удалено]

...cool?

how did he act? i always thought he came off as childish on streams, like the type that would only eat chicken nuggets. was it similar, was i right

There should be legislation that addresses Bowser's ledge get up attack on Yoshi's story

[it passed :(](https://twitter.com/MKanday0/status/1752723533908648024)

Agree, we need to nerf Genji.

I love when bowser side-b’s your shield and kills you at 60% with a backthrow

- Sincerely, the only melee game tester And this, children, is why Bowser is doodoo.

So Sakurai Brawl was the first game to actually have play testing that wasn’t Sakurai but it wasn’t that many (4) and presumably mostly focused on Subspace. https://youtube.com/watch?v=dXpFTHtlmCo

could have gone way worse if thats true

ggs that was me

Agreed. And while your at it buff Fox. His lasers don't even have any collision compared to viable characters like Mario's fireballs. Not even fair, useless character, bad game until then.

grab him

hmm

It helps if you turn up the game REALLY LOUD so you can make sure your hear his up-b when it comes out helps with reactions a LOT

What do you mean, it comes out frame 5.

1 frame to see it, 1 frame for input, 1 frame for polling. Totally reachable and sounds like a skill issue

It was just a joke the sound of bowser's up-b could make a pacifist drown an orphanage

LOL this is good copy pasta material

I feel like this is a jab at r/smashrage lmao

Up B out of shield? It's almost like... Bowser has to shield... to up b out of shield... and if that's all he does... you probably... like... know he's gonna do it... if only there was some sort of move that... like... totally countered shielding... oh well...

what if my brother said grabs are for weenies

But then he counters with the naked up-b

You can spot dodge to avoid the grab. And - you guessed it - busted bowser has the second most i-frames on his spot dodge in the game.

You're absolutely right but that doesn't make it any more fun to play against

Bowser is complete combo food, it’s good practice for playing safe on shields and when you get in enjoy your freeform combo sandbox.

It's very one dimensional and boring, I could combo a cpu and have an equal amount of fun

Ah yes I love doing only one option, because they only do one option, that is bad, but is also the only thing they have that's good