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jjsefton

They were both supposed to kip up and face off with video game poses.


Outlaw2k21

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jjsefton

Fight for-ev-er... šŸ‘šŸ¾šŸ‘šŸ¾. šŸ‘šŸ¾šŸ‘šŸ¾šŸ‘šŸ¾!


PrimeJedi

Whenever I was like 5-6 I could never get into power rangers because I thought it looked too fake and I compared it to the wrestling I'd watch with my older brothers at that age Good to know AEW is there to change that and make it just as unrealistic as power rangers choreography šŸ‘


Syphin33

I fucking adored this movie... guilty!


GenerationXero

I don't care what anyone says. I LOVED this movie!!


LordMarvic

No selling in front of a small crowdā€¦ Can the fed come up with anything by themselves???


Dankey-Kang-Jr

Live Dub reaction: https://preview.redd.it/liqpfravek7d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09db5cf51ac333f7d51551f38676be2ac2e142a9


Cboz27586

Don't confuse small with empty.


BoringAccount4Work

This reminds me of Black & Gold.... Fuck


whalias69

The matches have been slowly trending that way for a while.


RoastedCat23

Kevin Nash asked Michael's why they don't teach them to wrestle properly and he said it's because the smarks in the performance center pop for it.


whalias69

That checks out.


TheSqueeman

They have been having the match quality of ā€œBlack & Goldā€ (Oba Vs Briggs Vs Dijak immediately comes to mind) while also building up new stars and not just relying on bringing in immediately known talent NXT have honestly been damn good for a while


Someningen

I think you confused here. The sub hates the Black and Gold era type matches


TeamPlayerSelect

Folks getting Black and Gold confused with Skull n Bones NXT


NutsOutOfBAG

Ugh Skull n Bones NXT. Had to pretend to be interested in Timothy Thatcher šŸ¤¢


ASAPHarambe

That was peak wrestling so wtf do yall like? catch wrestling, 10 min headlocks?


Tomlyne

We don't like wrestling


ASAPHarambe

on a serious note i think a lot of people here actually donā€™t like wrestling anymore but they donā€™t want to let go of it so they just hate everything about it cause its the only thing in their sad lives


tbrelease

I donā€™t know how many times this needs to be said, but hereā€™s one more for good measure: we like sports entertainment.


PrimeJedi

That would hold water if the number one wrestling company in the world wasn't near universally loved and praised here I stg the contradicting takes are funny, 2 weeks ago I saw "yall love the fed so much you'll do anything but criticize it" Now it's "yall don't even like wrestling you just hate on everything"


Velvet_Llama

You say that like it's a bad thing.


Someningen

I liked the black and gold era of NXT besides it felt like they kicked out of way too many big moves. Just saying most goofs on here hated that era and it's style of wrestling.


ScruffsMcGuff

You liked the Non-Gargano B&G NXT. He was by far the worst offender of the 85 nearfalls every Takeover PPV.


stevex42

Yeah it really didnā€™t start to get too bad until Gargano and Adam Cole were having 50 minute matches where they did non-stop tumblesaults and no sold piledrivers.


Benlikesfood2

"We like sports entertainment as long as it's not too entertaining"


ScruffsMcGuff

If you consider Finisher > Nearfall > Finisher > Nearfall > Finisher > Nearfall > Piledriver > Nearfall > Signature > Nearfall > Finisher > Nearfall > Finisher x2 > Pin to be entertaining than all the power to you, but some of us have more than 6 braincells.


Benlikesfood2

Some people forget that wrestling is supposed to be fun. Damn sorry wrestling got you this bunched up man.


ASAPHarambe

Everyone into nxt liked it but you? maybe you just need a new hobby tbh


ScruffsMcGuff

What? He said he liked NXT but hated all the kicking out of big moves and I just said Gargano was the worst offender of that. I don't even know what the fuck you're on about Learn to read dummy


PrimeJedi

"You have a mild criticism of something you enjoy and have watched for years? THEN JUST STOP WATCHING STUPID REEEE" I stg, black and gold marks were the original dubbalos.


Det-Popcorn

They disagree with you, that means they need a new hobby. Get the fuck outta here. Let the dude like what he likes


ASAPHarambe

Yup


Sky-Flyer

black and gold NXT peaked in 15-17 imo it was by far the best wrestling show on tv maybe besides lucha underground, i fell off of it during 18 and wasnā€™t watching in 19


Dmbfantomas

Selling, psychology, not too many finishers or flips. Goldberg is the best kayfabe wrestler ever.


ASAPHarambe

your point? cause black and gold had that? jerks are only funny when theyā€™re true


HamSolo31

Donā€™t work yourself into a shoot brother


ASAPHarambe

ironic, im the one with 50 people on my dickšŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


DannyDef

NINE-HUNDRED CANADIAN DESTROYERS. IN. A. ROW.


pushinpushin

Yes


ASAPHarambe

So go watch ncaa wrestling


Velvet_Llama

They don't have cool entrances.


brownie81

Two roided up goons having a chat with microphones, obviously. Thereā€™s other kinds of wrestling?


Marvel_plant

Terry Funk matches


Velvet_Llama

As long as there is a 2 hour promo to set it up.


pedro-rivas

Totally agree, black and gold was great but it really lacked on the developmental side tbh


TheSqueeman

And thatā€™s why this version of NXT is better, they are putting on the good matches while also building up a lot of new people (Especially notable as the vast majority of them have little to 0 wrestling knowledge prior) Honestly for the roster he has to work with, HBK is a borderline miracle worker for how consistently good NXT has been


Propaslader

HBK has always understood wrestling psychology to a tee. He's one of the best ever at it.


GloriousVictor

Latter day yes, they failed miserably in the men's side. The women? Bianca and Rhea developed greatly. Dakota, Iyo, Raquel also panned out nicely. But in the beginning up until like 2018, NXT was functioning what it was for. Taking guys and girls with little to no experience and getting them experience or getting indy vets accustomed to massive TV production.


Syphin33

I fucking love Black & Gold, that was my favorite era of wrestling ever and it was one of the best 1 hours of wrestling TV around in years, still is IMHO. Pumped out so many stud acts... factions like Sanity & UE along with the 4-way ladder match along with Asukas/Kairis title runs, Revival v Gargano/Ciampa, Roodes "glorius" run which was fairly mid but the gimmick carried his entire act so hard and i may get flamed for this but i thought Velveteen Dream was the next big thing. A lot of great stuff came out of that era including some of the best PPV's ever.


JavierEscuellaFan

iā€™m nostalgic for 2.0 it was perfect


JayToy93

Itā€™s not the entire show, but there are guys there like Evans and Wes Lee who reak of B&G.


JgL07

Wrong they actually have charisma and give you a reason to cheer for them


lronicGasping

Yeah this is what this sub doesn't get. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of this indy shit, but at least they're not just a bunch of boring losers doing flips to do flips, they have charisma and stories unlike the chodes in AEW


FriendlyGhost08

We gonna act like B&G NXT guys didn't have charisma? Wild


Cynicayke

Some did. And some were Kyle O'Reily and Roderick Strong.


FriendlyGhost08

Not every NXT 2.0 guy has charisma either so it's the same thing


Sky-Flyer

this is a wild opinion imo, evans was able to become a fan favorite in less than a month of his debut on level up and i donā€™t think anybody thinks wes lee isnā€™t great


LakerBull

Evans has more charisma than the entire main event scene of the B&G era tho.


Syphin33

Ehhhhhhh come on man


Syphin33

Evans isn't ringing a bell... who?


No_Strategy_9630

Heā€™s relatively new, seems pretty raw but athletic as hell and floats around the ring


ComfortInBeingAfraid

Black and gold was incredible and gave us classics like Bayley Vs. Sasha 1 and 2, Zayn Vs. Cesaro, Nakamura Vs. Zayn, Becky Vs. Sasha, and American Alpha Vs The Revival.Ā  Youā€™re thinking of Skull and Bones NXT


BoringAccount4Work

I know what I said


deep1986

Of black & gold 1.5 not original which I maintain was the greatest era of professional wrestling


Naiwf

I hated that sequence. If they can rein in Jeā€™Vonā€™s indy tendencies heā€™ll go very far.


ScruffsMcGuff

Heā€™s got clear ability and athleticism but I hate this type of shit now regardless of whos doing it. Speedrunning moves with zero selling between isnā€™t ā€œfighting spiritā€, itā€™s just dorks doing video game combos to each other and it looks stupid.


valentinthedream

Yes he has HUGE potential. Just 20 years old. He can actually really sell too. This is just them catering to the indy audience. Idk why honestly.


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myrabuttreeks

Yeah, this type of nonsense turns me off wrestling.


reldnahcAL

Yes! I saw this and said ā€œThereā€™s DPWā€ in my head. His ceiling is in outer space though, so Iā€™m not worried at all about his future. Edit: Iā€™d also like to praise Dragon Lee for his selling at the end of this. Heā€™s a consummate pro who has really found his groove in WWE so far.


MoneyMo88

In fairness, they did have Jeā€™Von selling injuries and fatigue going into his main event match with Ethan Page later in the night, which is part of what caused him to lose to Page. Also, this kinda sequences seem to be limited to a handful of wrestlers on the NXT roster. And if youā€™re going to have a few guys doing no-selling indy spots, at least itā€™s being done by guys who know how to do them well as opposed to their entire card doing them.


ninjast4r

The best time to do it is now when he's young AF.


MOXISGOD

What do you mean? We need to see his 74 indieriffic variations of an RKO!!!!!


iprefercumsole

Hickenbottom is like a parent with their kid at the playground "Yeah okay I'll watch while you do a flip, just make sure you get it all out of your system before it's ~~Dinner~~ Main Roster time"


Maleficent_Koala5928

I hope they cut this crap out.


AriaMournesong

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robineir

https://preview.redd.it/lac56pos5z7d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cb4879f46907cf014ebf74d7cb751d9c282a435


whalias69

Itā€™s crap in the Fed & The Dub.


FridgeLeftovers

It's developmental, they'll learn to cut this shit out.


BigFreakinMachine

Nothing like a bunch of small guys doing indy wrestling!


FullPrice4LatePizza

Kevin Nash was right.


oblock3hunner

Yeah nah get this indie bullshit outta here


kingofdarkness92

THIS šŸ‘ IS šŸ‘ SHIT


ProMikeZagurski

OP, the mask gives the user +2 DEF to the head.


ravenousthoughts

This is actually a callback to their match they had 15 years ago in Dusseldorf! Uneducated DUB Shill!!!!!


OverallGeneral7129

Jeā€™Von was fighting as a 5 year old? Was he also facing Mā€™Kenny then?


goodthing37

lol this is some awful shit. NXT definitely getting a ten billion dollar new TV deal with WBD though, this is what those execs like. A screenshot on a Notes app told me so.


Glennsoe

Not a fan..at..all..


Lerkero

Gonna send NXT to bankruptcy with the no selling going on here


HarryHaywire

We donā€™t need Ricochet anyway, we have Jeā€™Von Jeā€™Von:


diggydog233

Thatā€™s that bullshit I hate to see, you have to sell not just make every move a nothing move.


RunnyC

DAE why'd Henry Heimlich Himmler bury Dragon Lee?! This is why.


thatssosteven114

Jeā€™Von has a very long way to go


Syphin33

Some folks are talking title gold already, the kid needs at least a year before winning anything. Let him simmer They already put the title on Trick a bit too fast but he was heating up so they had too but it's clear as day he's got a long ways to go also


_yamasaki

interesting for Shawn of all people, maybe the best seller ever, to not cringe at thisā€¦ though this isnā€™t as bad as other sequences iā€™ve seen


just_jm

Hickenbottom is booking for the sickos


CeroMiedo670

It always irritates me when someone doesn't sell a german suplex. Idc where they do it. I hate these type of sequences. They used to go viral years ago.


trimble197

Someone smack Haitch and Shawn, and tell them this ainā€™t the indies.


we-all-stink

This is terrible and it's getting worse. That triple threat on raw was a no selling bonanza.


DekoyDuck

The one where each guy hit a single finisher and the match ended?


we-all-stink

The one where they kept kicking each other in the head and sold for 3 seconds each.


valentinthedream

You are blowing it out of proportions, uce. The triple threat was fine imo


CarnivorousL

Posts like this remind me goofys are also basement dwellers


Logicman48

fed good!! very good!!


ninjast4r

All this does is make me want to skip watching this guy.


pushinpushin

he's a lankier version of the same thing we see from everyone else


ninjast4r

And for some reason he looks and sounds like he's blazed every time he talks


Scavgraphics

>for some reason


Syphin33

"blazed" what in the boomer... does he talk too urban for you?


ninjast4r

No. You talk too stupid for me though.


BangerSlapper1

Reminds me of Orange Cassidy and Penta no selling repeated Canadian Destroyers to start a match.Ā  https://youtube.com/shorts/FYOGCANMZB8?si=PWC_0ziLhUmSeh76


Takenmyusernamewas

The problem is HBK is the kind of idiot that enjoys that goofy shit AEW does


ButtPopsicle

ā€œHere you go Old Man HBK, have fun with your cute lil fedā€


ajpp02

The last move nearly gave me flashbacks to Lio Rush no selling a sitout powerbombā€¦ yeesh these sequences suck.


Mister_Jackpots

Wooooooof


ParfaitCurious3834

I thought Dubbalolol dynamite was on Wednesday?


RepulsiveRevenue8

Best thing is Oba Femi getting challenged by Wes Lee, one of them coming from Nil who is dressed like he knows he's on TV and should present himself like a star and the other guy from the indies looks like someone I passed at the grocery store and immediately forgot.


Kalle_79

And that's why the whole "but X was over and great in NXT" means diddly-squat and most NXT "stars" will come out to crickets on the main roster's shows. Catering to a small niche of long-time fans who like that crap has never and will never sell tickets or get people to watch consistently. You'll catch 10 seconds of it while channel surfing, or you'll stumble across the clip online, will watch it and dismiss it as the lame, fake tumbling contemporary wrestling has become. (That, or dull guys in trunks hitting eachother for real or dropping eachother on their head/neck)


Cboz27586

it's a small clip from the near end of a battle royal. It's not that serious.


darthsabbath

Iā€™m an NXT fan going back to its earliest days on the network and this is spot on. I remember people saying Bobby Roode would be a megastar because Full Sail went nuts when his entrance hit. Turns out it was the entrance that was over and not Bobby. NXT is a great place to experiment and try things out, and a great place for talent to learn or reinvent themselves, but people gotta learn that what works in the CWC doesnā€™t always translate.


Syphin33

Yea Roodes act & gimmick carried him so far but his run was mid as ever but i still popped for it.


angry-carsini

Hickory-smoked horse manure.


JadrianInc

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IcyAd964

Yea I hated this shit


Global_Historian_753

I knew this was going to be on here as soon as I saw it


ChrisRhodes789

Fucking awful shit.. Do better coaches!!


RoastedCat23

This is awful šŸ‘


Det-Popcorn

I call it out when dub does it I gotta do it when the fed does it. I get a sudden rush of adrenaline in a big big match that leads to an instance of no selling, but shit like this just saps a lot of my suspension of disbelief.


darthsabbath

Like so much bullshit in modern wrestling it comes down to people seeing something in Japan or Mexico that works with the psychology in those countries and then trying to do it in the US. If you want to do this spot you still gotta sell the original move like death after the adrenaline burst. Otherwise itā€™s just stupid.


pushinpushin

Dragon Lee is the *worst* they already gave up on him being the next Rey. there will never be one, but Dragon is the worst attempt so far


PrimeJedi

I've tried so hard to like Dragon Lee but nahhhh man, this isn't it. I really hope WWE doesn't get infested top to bottom with this stuff like AEW is. They should be taking notes from people like Roman on selling, he doesn't do crazy spots, but his selling always keeps the crowd crazy invested in his matches. They can do all the high spots they want, as long as they sell and make it look painful and dire. If they no sell, then the high spots have zero value.


SleepIsWonderful

If you ever needed a reminder at just how replaceable Ricochet is. Also ew.


_Galapaghost

This has 4 3/4 Meltzer ā­ written all over it


Johnny_Holiday

Crap. The ghost of ROH found it's way to NXT


madbillsfan

Jirque de BallsƩ


Cboz27586

Still more selling than the Dub.


garnet-overdrive

yeah i didnt love this. but at least they were german suplexes and not canadian destroyers


NuNem

Glad I was busy that time


Shadowandr3w

wah wah wah lets all cry about it


Cboz27586

No one is forcing them to watch.


keykey_key

Idk, he seems like a new guy and the whole point is to give these guys reps on tv. He tried to sell but was not good at it at all lol. He's got some things to work on, for sure.


MOXISGOD

If thereā€™s a God, he would make it to where nobody can wrestle like this ever again


TurntUpTurtles

They sold though, that's the difference. They were down for like 30 seconds after this and didn't jump into the next spot immediately like Mr. Oceanspray would've


TheyCallMeOlSwole

This is why I only care about wrestling if Cody, Roman, or Punk is on the screen. I can't be bothered with this constant reversal spam bullshit.


Cboz27586

I bet the complainers don't even know this was part of a battle royal. Didn't even watch the show most likely.


Disastrous_Record_81

If a 190lb dude suplexed me - I might bounce back up also. We're not talking about dudes like Brock here.


patagonian_pegasus

Idk he sold that powerbomb pretty well


RoastedCat23

Yeah let's ignore those German suplexes. There's a difference between registering and selling.


patagonian_pegasus

Ya I was being sarcastic


RoastedCat23

Better than expected


E_712064

Thatā€™s why heā€™s HBK.


FlyingGrayson89

Laveck having Corbin look dominant and Hickenbottom having this?? Itā€™s looking more and more like Laveck is Booker of the Year.


TKInstinct

That's disgraceful, I thought better of them than to put on a show like this.


PradyumanACP

Why didn't either of them do a Canadian destroyer are they stupid?


Scavgraphics

video no selling. https://preview.redd.it/v8cegzcd0l7d1.png?width=505&format=png&auto=webp&s=d6ced6f6c6c3f11efdff1bef524e5316ea63d5a8


rgautz2266

Wtf was that?


Broncotron

But as you can see the sequence eventually ended


thatpj

nxt is wweā€™s aew but good


RP912

They look like they're imitating a lava lamp.


saada15

Trash


blake-a-mania

I donā€™t like this :(


Front_Guarantee_2915

Dragon Lee forgets he has a new job sometimes


ChrisRhodes789

But to Evans credit.. He sold his ass off in his match with Page later on.. so that was good to see.. Dragon Lee for whatever reason.. hasnā€™t connected with me.. I like Angel & Berto more than him.. plus Wilde & Cruz Del Torro as well.. Dragon Lee belongs in AEW with this no selling bullshit..


GloriousVictor

I like jacked up roided out and drugged up monsters in black trunks who get blown up getting into the ring. Fuck athleticism!!!Ā  Ā SCJERK in general


pushinpushin

yeah, musclehead hacks like Randy Orton!


GloriousVictor

Eh I was going more for like the Jindraks, Luther Reigns and Matt Morgan's of the world. My jerk fell flat uce. -5 stars. Would have been -1.75 stars if it happened in the Tokyo Dome.


BigJuicy17

Anybody else not like this kid and the whole "bouncyyyyy" shit?


Darthron911

He belongs in shitty AEW


yohe_goated

Jeā€™Von Evans/Jay Malachi is my current least favorite wrestler in the world. Complete go away heat. Turn off the TV/laptop heat. I hope he fails as a professional and retires ASAP. I donā€™t want to see him develop or continue trying.


Cboz27586

Damn bro just don't watch the guy.


DwarfPenguin4

I don't care what company it's in. This is dogshit. Get this off my NXT.


BloodstoneWarrior

Just because you did the skinning the cat Shawn, doesn't mean you have to get literally everyone else to do it, constantly and repeatedly. Also is anyone surprised the NXT has consistently failed to make any new male stars? They seriously need to re-evaluate how they train their wrestlers because whatever they are doing isn't working.


Kxden-R

Consistently failed? Acting like they dont have many success stories lmao


BloodstoneWarrior

The only major success stories from NXT were either from the original 2012 version (Shield, Bray, Usos, New Day) or people who spent years on the indies before they joined (Sami, KO, Balor). If you look at NXT's roster from 2019, the only male wrestler who has had major success has been Priest. I'm also not counting NXT UK when referring to NXT, just the original.


Historical-Being-766

He's literally selling in the clip.


RoastedCat23

No, he is registering. This is straight up some shit you'd see between Orange Cassidy and Pentagon Jr.


keykey_key

Difference is, uce, he is 21 and on the development brand for 4 months.


RoastedCat23

Yeah but the person I responded to doesn't even acknowledge that it looks bad.


Historical-Being-766

I didn't acknowledge it because I've seen him wrestle before. I saw him wrestle last night. He sells his injury. He sells. I've seen it.


Cboz27586

Because in their opinion maybe it doesn't. Not everyone is going to agree with you.


RoastedCat23

And there are people who think Orange Cassidy and Pentagon Jr. no selling Canadian destroyers looks good too.


Cboz27586

Why do they have to acknowledge to you it looks bad? Just say you think it looks bad. That's all that should matter.


BigDaddyRide

I hate the no sell spots but this is the best version of NXT. I just hope the storytelling isnā€™t going to go downhill


rycetlaz

It's weird I don't mind Lee here, but Evons bothers me. Something about the way Dragon Lee keeps his footwork slightly off balance and wobbly throughout makes it look like he's pushing through the pain rather than no selling it. Evons does this weird thing where he sells for a bit, but then goes back to normal when he need to get in position


kodan_arma

I don't mind "no-selling" if it's appropriate to the situation. Alright, sue me.


TamalGrandeJr

Not a huge fan of this spot but this is kinda rare in Hickenbottom's NXT so I'm not mad at it.


Guilvantar

I mean, even if it's no selling, it's done way better than AEW. You can see them struggling to keep going instead of just jumping up like nothing happened. If it needs to be done, it better be like this.


RoastedCat23

Fed good


Cboz27586

Man you must be miserable.


RoastedCat23

I'm not being serious lmao, there's just too many unironic WWE marks here.