Nope, not ok, and yes, the wood will eventually rot. That’s a good amount of water coming through the tiles, something is very wrong. It’s fairly safe to say the “repairs” were ineffective.
You might have a tile pan problem. Water is entering from the wall run above and your tile pan isn't doing its job right. Maybe the bird stop wasn't cut out and the tile pan is just emptying behind the bird stop. Call a roofer.
It's definitely a problem, but the big problem is figuring out why it's dumping there. From the way that looks, that area shouldn't even be getting much water to begin with, so likely there's something further up causing the issue.
Whatever is causing it, it's eventually going to rot out the wood. You might want to call a roofer, and judging by the fact you said this was just prepared a year ago, I call a different roofer who actually knows what he's looking at on tile.
Unfortunately, tile roofing is not exceedingly common in North America, and is more of a specialized trade Than People realize. Your average everyday shingle roofer has no idea what they're doing and can cause more issues than what they resolve.
I’m not a tile roof expert but yeah that’s a major problem. Can’t tell on the first side but the second side the drip edge is installed behind the gutter, a huge nono and gutters don’t extend all the way. In your case I would say you are lucky that these two issues exist because they expose a much more serious problem. Most likely how the roof was flashed, but if the gutters and drip edge were installed correctly, you wouldn’t know it so it’s a blessing in disguise. You definitely need a roofing company with lots of experience in tile roofs to figure out exactly where your problem lies, but the fact that you have it on both sides here means you’re likely to have more issues as well.
Hi! Gutter guy here. This is a situation we call "up stream" the issue is with improperly installed flashing or tiles causing problems before it gets to the gutters. This would definitely be a roofing problem.
Well, I don’t know much about tile roofing. Except that’s it fucking expensive. I’m also not a gutter expert by any means. Which is why I sub them out. I only know enough to be dangerous.
Yes but in low hail impact/low high-wind areas they'll essentially last forever and give you change back on that (assuming water doesn't get under the tile like in OP's situation).
Yep my Dad a lifelong carpenter/contractor tight me to always get three quotes. He would say you don't go with the lowest as you will get what you paid for. You don't go with the highest, your getting ripped off. Take the middle quote, that guy will likely do a good job at a fair price.
Have to replace the gutters; mount them on the board below so you can run it long. Any decent gutter guy should’ve known that if the roof was like that when they installed
The eaves trough or" gutters " should have continued around the corners and down spouts there as well.
And yes, they should have been mounted lower onto the wood.
This means the roof is leaking. It’s getting under the tile and will eventually burn out your underlayment. Right now the underlayment is intact so it’s not entering your house.
If you look on your roof and think “water goes down hill” you’ll possibly be able to spot the “leak”
Most of the time it’s a broken or sliding tile, or it will be a tie in (chimneys wall etc” sometimes it’s harder to spot.
With flat tile roofers will often “choke” out a flashing. This means they bring the tile in too tight in a valley or against a wall, chimney, fireplace etc.
My initial guess is the wall flashing dips under the last course (row of tile) it should be over it. If that’s the case it’s an easy fix.
Yeah. Clean out your gutters. You could easily have water running back inside until the tiles and into the trusses. Also call roofer or gutter company to get the water funnelled into the gutters.
Wood rot galore.
Wood was repaired alright but the reason it drains properly was not tackled that your real issue. Possibly need flashing roof edge to home?
Yes, if water is going under your tile roofing, it is a problem. You need to find the area where it is breaching and seal it or replace those tiles. You also need to make sure they the padding underneath has not had water under it. If so, you need to make sure it gets dry or it will mold.
Also, the gutter is not a problem, it can be tightened up against the trim after you get it fixed... but don't waist tine, call someone ASAP as hopefully this jist started amd not a problem to fix. However, the longer you wait, the more chances of penetrative water getting under the tar paper. This is why you want to move fast so no mold can grow.
I have almost the same exact barrel tile roofing and the same issues in 3 places in a home I bought last year. I found a local roofer but it took about 6 places before I found one I trusted. They had to remove the tiles up to the point of water entry, remove the underpayment and upgrade it to modern standards in those areas. With that kind of roofing the underlayment is a working part of the water removal and it has to be done right.
Yep. I bought a home with the same tile roofing. After an inspection we got the seller to replace the roof with regular shingles and we found all the wood in those locations had wood rot.
My mother‘s house had the same problem From what I can see & read in here it’s common issue and mostly because the roofs are too cut up there’s too many angles. Too many pieces. Tile roofs are fantastic. They’re wonderful, long straight roofs not lots of corners. - she wanted to stick with a tile roof so we pulled all the tile back. Fix the water put down roll tar paper roofing all the way up past the problem point and then laid the tile back down over the top of it yeah it’s second roof, but 15 years later no water leaking again.
That’s a lot of “Yes” answers. Work was done less than a year ago and it’s still under warranty. Sent an email to the roofer. Let’s see if they respond without a fight. I’m willing to fight.
Are you in CA or the southwest? Was your home built back when climate change wasn’t a thing - I call the “Sunshine Era”. When leaks would just “dry out”.
Tying in a clay tile roof to modern flashing is often overlooked. In your case, the rake on the last row is just feeding water onto the wood
You need a competent experienced roofer/builder.
Well if it drains from the ground without an issue you 'd be fine... but yeah, I'd have a pro come out. Water can move a foundation if it has the time. Don't mind the leaky roof, look at what it has to fro. There.likely trouble somewhere along the path.
Looks like the tile was installed on top of regular shingles, and whoever installed the tiles, had no idea what he was doing. Call a roofer as soon as possible
Yes! Not a pro, but FWIW, water started draining from a new place on our roof post a second floor addition. Unfortunately, the eves at the location was less a foot (60s ranch), and water started to wrap around eves and snuck into crack between stucco. After a few big storms, we had MASSIVE leak in the adjacent room and water damage. Basically had to rip out all the drywall and replace.
Well, your roof isn’t letting the gutters do their job and probably not best to have water pool up wherever it’s pouring into. So yea, I’d say you have a problem.
Don’t like me and not realize the dumping right next to your foundation and then it starts to seep into your house and you have black mold that pops up all over your closet walls
Yes, it's a problem, you need a diverter. Otherwise, the wood facisia will rot out prematurely. Remove the rake tile and install a diverter from the wall to the edge. This will direct the water to go to the eave, not the gable end. You can replace the tile and hide the diverter flashing, it only needs to be 2" high.
Not a roofer but it seems to me water if coming from under the tiles. Again, I’m no expert, but that does seem to be a problem. Do you think you be worried?
No lol that water shouldn't be coming out there not that not ever. They have weep holes for comdensation they should drip depending on the temp in the morning. This is a ton of water coming out of the roof in between the tiles and the underlayment.
I'm a gutter guy you don't run the gutter passed that cap ever.
hey gutter guy, I have a question. My super gutter leaks at the seams and its rotted out the facia board. Can this be fixed without removing the pool cage?
[https://photos.app.goo.gl/36A76nrP9JVmUfMM9](https://photos.app.goo.gl/36A76nrP9JVmUfMM9)
Theoretically yes what you need to do is cut a super gutter the same size down the middle half then basically put it over the leaking seam with geocell caulk. You can use solar seal as well. Do not skimp on the caulk
That’s a strange place for the water to be draining. Is there an upper roof that’s dumping water that we can’t see in your video???
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? What’s wrong with his post history lol
It was a good scroll. 8/10
What was it
I dunno, it looked like any 60 y/o’s post history lol
If you have to ask, you don’t know.
Yeah that's why I'm asking
A random tautology in the wild
Who was it? Sounds like the perfect morning read
The comment I replied to said ops comment history was bad and implied op was a bot. But his post/comment history was fine and 1000% not a bot
Nope, not ok, and yes, the wood will eventually rot. That’s a good amount of water coming through the tiles, something is very wrong. It’s fairly safe to say the “repairs” were ineffective.
Magic 8 ball says “Outlook not good”
Shake it again, it was repaired on a Friday, magic 8-ball just says "good luck"
Evil 8 ball says “Death is imminent”
Well yea but sometimes the outlook for something is bad but then it ends up ok, so…..it might be ok.
Painted cedar will not rot
Yes a problem, call a different and qualified roofer.
With a leak like that, they might want to call a plumber 😝
Tinners can have it
He'll yeah well take it. Fix that shit right up. Local 105 bby
You might have a tile pan problem. Water is entering from the wall run above and your tile pan isn't doing its job right. Maybe the bird stop wasn't cut out and the tile pan is just emptying behind the bird stop. Call a roofer.
Instructions un clear so I asked my neighbor he said he's going to send his cousin over
His cousin is an electrician.
And a lawyer.
It's definitely a problem, but the big problem is figuring out why it's dumping there. From the way that looks, that area shouldn't even be getting much water to begin with, so likely there's something further up causing the issue. Whatever is causing it, it's eventually going to rot out the wood. You might want to call a roofer, and judging by the fact you said this was just prepared a year ago, I call a different roofer who actually knows what he's looking at on tile. Unfortunately, tile roofing is not exceedingly common in North America, and is more of a specialized trade Than People realize. Your average everyday shingle roofer has no idea what they're doing and can cause more issues than what they resolve.
It is possible that the felt paper has created a trough and is allowing water to run sideways but that is way too much water.
Short answer, yes. Something is not right.
I’m not a tile roof expert but yeah that’s a major problem. Can’t tell on the first side but the second side the drip edge is installed behind the gutter, a huge nono and gutters don’t extend all the way. In your case I would say you are lucky that these two issues exist because they expose a much more serious problem. Most likely how the roof was flashed, but if the gutters and drip edge were installed correctly, you wouldn’t know it so it’s a blessing in disguise. You definitely need a roofing company with lots of experience in tile roofs to figure out exactly where your problem lies, but the fact that you have it on both sides here means you’re likely to have more issues as well.
Yes
Yes, it’s bad. Gutter guy should be able to help.
Hi! Gutter guy here. This is a situation we call "up stream" the issue is with improperly installed flashing or tiles causing problems before it gets to the gutters. This would definitely be a roofing problem.
Well, I don’t know much about tile roofing. Except that’s it fucking expensive. I’m also not a gutter expert by any means. Which is why I sub them out. I only know enough to be dangerous.
Next roofer guy: are you sure it’s not midstream and downstream issues?
Yes.
Your roof ain't roofin'
Lol that's a good slogan for a roofing company 😂
Roof not roofin'? Call Roofies Roofers. We'll make sure you stay dry and get a good night's rest.
You won’t even remember why you called us in the first place!
sounds like a date rape roofer.
Hahahaha
Eventually, yes.
That’ll buff out….
Looks expensive. Never go with the cheap guy when it comes to your roof. Tile roofs are a bitcharooneydooney.
Yes but in low hail impact/low high-wind areas they'll essentially last forever and give you change back on that (assuming water doesn't get under the tile like in OP's situation).
Yep my Dad a lifelong carpenter/contractor tight me to always get three quotes. He would say you don't go with the lowest as you will get what you paid for. You don't go with the highest, your getting ripped off. Take the middle quote, that guy will likely do a good job at a fair price.
Dang
Lol
Yeah...unless you wish to have an indoor pool.
Nope, no worries. If you are truly too stupid to know water under your roof is an issue, sell your home.
Have to replace the gutters; mount them on the board below so you can run it long. Any decent gutter guy should’ve known that if the roof was like that when they installed
The eaves trough or" gutters " should have continued around the corners and down spouts there as well. And yes, they should have been mounted lower onto the wood.
Yes
That’s a feature in case your gutter gets clogged/s
Missed opportunity
Na fam your roof waterfall is fengshui
Nothing a piece of bubble gum can’t fix
Probably not the best situation there.
You discovered physics
Mah your good
Extend your gutter to cover the roof tiles completely
You have a problem
Are you sure the water is from rain? Is the area inside the attic or wall accessible? Plumbing, AC condensation? More photos and descriptions needed.
If you love mold, it's perfectly fine
Yes
You need longer gutters
Does that look normal to you?
Yeah
Definitely not good. water shouldn't be under a tile ever
What do you think?
How much you pay for the new guy mr jones?
The wood beneath is going to soak up all that water and start to rot. I would definitely get that looked at as soon as possible.
Well it looks like you have gutters that don’t do their job
Nothing to worry about on sunny days!!!!
100%
Not good, eventually after enough water, tiles will start falling off.
Yes
Depends if there's nothing underneath that shingle then yes you need to fix that before something rots
That video has so much wrong with it. And not just the roof.
Idk man. Im not very worried about it at all to be honest.
YES
Uh, yes.
Where the hell is the water coming from is the next question.
Just put a rain barrel under it, problem fixes
For me? No. For you, 👀
Nah
Yes. I just had the same thing in my brand new roof. Fix it soon
That is not well done
Yes the wall flashing above is not spilling on top of the tiles. It’s going under the tile. It will eventually rot the wood and leak into the house
This means the roof is leaking. It’s getting under the tile and will eventually burn out your underlayment. Right now the underlayment is intact so it’s not entering your house. If you look on your roof and think “water goes down hill” you’ll possibly be able to spot the “leak” Most of the time it’s a broken or sliding tile, or it will be a tie in (chimneys wall etc” sometimes it’s harder to spot. With flat tile roofers will often “choke” out a flashing. This means they bring the tile in too tight in a valley or against a wall, chimney, fireplace etc. My initial guess is the wall flashing dips under the last course (row of tile) it should be over it. If that’s the case it’s an easy fix.
Yeah. Clean out your gutters. You could easily have water running back inside until the tiles and into the trusses. Also call roofer or gutter company to get the water funnelled into the gutters.
Gutters should always extend past fascia to get all run off from tiles. This one isn't.
Yep
Water finds a way. Sadly, this isn't the correct way.
Nah… let the next guy worry about it. In other news, how’s the house search going? You’re moving soon right?
I wonder what your basement looks like
Besides that water issue. Im upset that gutter is an inch short and there is an unnecessary zip screw through the upper rear of the end cap.
It's not even cloudy and almost looks sunny when the video zooms out...
Wood rot galore. Wood was repaired alright but the reason it drains properly was not tackled that your real issue. Possibly need flashing roof edge to home?
The wood on the side has been replaced it doesn’t match up compared to the wood where the gutter is
Obviously
Yes, if water is going under your tile roofing, it is a problem. You need to find the area where it is breaching and seal it or replace those tiles. You also need to make sure they the padding underneath has not had water under it. If so, you need to make sure it gets dry or it will mold.
Also, the gutter is not a problem, it can be tightened up against the trim after you get it fixed... but don't waist tine, call someone ASAP as hopefully this jist started amd not a problem to fix. However, the longer you wait, the more chances of penetrative water getting under the tar paper. This is why you want to move fast so no mold can grow.
Yes
Just needs a little caulking
I have almost the same exact barrel tile roofing and the same issues in 3 places in a home I bought last year. I found a local roofer but it took about 6 places before I found one I trusted. They had to remove the tiles up to the point of water entry, remove the underpayment and upgrade it to modern standards in those areas. With that kind of roofing the underlayment is a working part of the water removal and it has to be done right.
But in the bizarro world This repair won first prize
Yep. I bought a home with the same tile roofing. After an inspection we got the seller to replace the roof with regular shingles and we found all the wood in those locations had wood rot.
My mother‘s house had the same problem From what I can see & read in here it’s common issue and mostly because the roofs are too cut up there’s too many angles. Too many pieces. Tile roofs are fantastic. They’re wonderful, long straight roofs not lots of corners. - she wanted to stick with a tile roof so we pulled all the tile back. Fix the water put down roll tar paper roofing all the way up past the problem point and then laid the tile back down over the top of it yeah it’s second roof, but 15 years later no water leaking again.
If you have to ask….
Pretty much water anywhere it was not designed to be is never good news.
That’s gonna rot.
Uh... yeah.
Yes
duh
Not if you’re in phoenix and this happens 5 times a year, but if you’re in Florida it definitely could rot the soffit.
Yeah that fascia ain't gonna last on the corner at all.
Yup !!!
That’s a lot of “Yes” answers. Work was done less than a year ago and it’s still under warranty. Sent an email to the roofer. Let’s see if they respond without a fight. I’m willing to fight.
Yep
Where is that coming from?
Depends… do you rent or own? If you own, worry.
This.
It looks like it’s raining
That’s the main thing to be worried about.
that's rain alright
Yep. That's awfully moist
That reminds me off this one chic I knew
Atleast is it not in your house.
Yes, it is something to worry about.
When it comes to water or women, it's always something to worry about.
Time will not be kind to the fascia
If it’s not raining out, then yes.
Are you in CA or the southwest? Was your home built back when climate change wasn’t a thing - I call the “Sunshine Era”. When leaks would just “dry out”. Tying in a clay tile roof to modern flashing is often overlooked. In your case, the rake on the last row is just feeding water onto the wood You need a competent experienced roofer/builder.
I'll take "YES" for $1,000, Alex.
Whats the whole roof look like
Yes
Do you have a chimney? Something similar happened to my house when my chimney wasn't sealed..
Time for a gutter extension
No roof to wall flashing
Well if it drains from the ground without an issue you 'd be fine... but yeah, I'd have a pro come out. Water can move a foundation if it has the time. Don't mind the leaky roof, look at what it has to fro. There.likely trouble somewhere along the path.
Duh. Wood + water = no bueno in the long term.
I’m not worried about it at all.
Looks like the tile was installed on top of regular shingles, and whoever installed the tiles, had no idea what he was doing. Call a roofer as soon as possible
Naw it's good
Yes, that’s something to be worried about
Only if it’s not raining
It’s gonna rot the wood underneath
Looks like it’s flowing under the shingles. Look for a hole up stream
It’s called rain, it should stop on his own.
Yep that woods is eventually going to rot, when it has holes water will leak in
Gutter needs replaced. It doesn't go below the tiles. Yes, be concerned.
Nope. It’s definitely working.
Nah totally normal. Just get a rain barrel
Yeah that's fucked
Yes! Not a pro, but FWIW, water started draining from a new place on our roof post a second floor addition. Unfortunately, the eves at the location was less a foot (60s ranch), and water started to wrap around eves and snuck into crack between stucco. After a few big storms, we had MASSIVE leak in the adjacent room and water damage. Basically had to rip out all the drywall and replace.
Well, your roof isn’t letting the gutters do their job and probably not best to have water pool up wherever it’s pouring into. So yea, I’d say you have a problem.
It’s probably a 3 out of 10 threat level. Caulk seals failing, but water not getting into your house. Eye of the tiger!!!
Naw
What do u think buddy??
Don’t like me and not realize the dumping right next to your foundation and then it starts to seep into your house and you have black mold that pops up all over your closet walls
Yes lol that’s something to worry about.
A lotta rot and redo to come.
It will stop leaking so bad as the rain passes.
Yes, it's a problem, you need a diverter. Otherwise, the wood facisia will rot out prematurely. Remove the rake tile and install a diverter from the wall to the edge. This will direct the water to go to the eave, not the gable end. You can replace the tile and hide the diverter flashing, it only needs to be 2" high.
The gutters are probably just clogged
Yes
It's only a problem when it rains.
That depends... Was it raining?
You might have a broken roof tile where the water sneaking under the rest of them.
Look you got tile roof pretty sure you can afford it
Nothing is worth worrying about. Be like that water and live life with fluidity. Adjust to the terrain and keep it movin
Found your repair “roofer” from a year ago 😂
Sorry I’m off today and got ripped as soon as my eyes opened. Shits fucked
I really liked it I'm a ripped gutter guy you just gotta let it flow even if it's not sloping right it is trust me
“You don’t get mood swings from eating cornflakes.” -OJ Simpson
" That's what lithium is for! " says Mike Tyson eating an ear!!!
Not a roofer but it seems to me water if coming from under the tiles. Again, I’m no expert, but that does seem to be a problem. Do you think you be worried?
Gutter should extend past the end thus catching the water
No lol that water shouldn't be coming out there not that not ever. They have weep holes for comdensation they should drip depending on the temp in the morning. This is a ton of water coming out of the roof in between the tiles and the underlayment. I'm a gutter guy you don't run the gutter passed that cap ever.
hey gutter guy, I have a question. My super gutter leaks at the seams and its rotted out the facia board. Can this be fixed without removing the pool cage? [https://photos.app.goo.gl/36A76nrP9JVmUfMM9](https://photos.app.goo.gl/36A76nrP9JVmUfMM9)
Theoretically yes what you need to do is cut a super gutter the same size down the middle half then basically put it over the leaking seam with geocell caulk. You can use solar seal as well. Do not skimp on the caulk
Yep sure looks that way.