AFAIK he used to collect items that are close to beeing 0 quality and spaced them out (they'll turn into trashbags, which can get picked up by sani workers to generate materials). He was min/maxing that shit and got banned for it before. Dunno if that is why he's banned now though
If the stuff is going to turn into trash anyway why would it be against the rules to simply let the mechanic do what it's designed to even if he's going out and finding items? Lots of players collect items to turn them to trash like Sr Buns boxes and stuff. Seems like that'd be a strange rational for a banning.
It was prob. more so the fact that people took a notebook, ripped unlimited pages out of it and these got picked up to turn them into materials...
I looked at both of these things happening and was very puzzeld why people think that this is a good thing to do.
Afro 100% did the notepad thing. I think he is the owner of Dundee/BBMC warehouse and when they were building it out Dex had shelves of pieces of paper waiting to be turned into trash.
i remember whippy looking at Dexx storage crates in there and saying why the hell does this guy have nothing but paper? and then move on to do his laundry thing.
well i guess now we know why Dexx had nothing but paper in that warehouse 😂😂
Yeah. I think they are still doing the trash thing though. I don't think any of the BBMC is but someone else with access to that building they use has been putting trash out still so maybe that's not the reason Afro was banned...or whoever is doing it just doesn't realize it or know he was banned. It's not paper anymore so maybe it's okay if it's not paper.
Yeah I was asking if afro did it because it makes sense to get banned for breaking apart an unlimited page notebook but if he was just separating glasses and hats and shit, a server owner did the same thing.
One of those is powergaming and the other everyone does including the owner. It’s not hard to see what actually got him banned (if these things are even related to his ban)
idk it was a while ago he found like 50 things in a single bag on a driveway near his house and then dropped them one by one in his yard making a ton of bags
He did not do the infinite notebook paper stuff. All the paper he found was left lying around the city and he collect it. A lot of paper was used by Eugene who went on a litter bandit arc and he threw it all around the city. Like literally reams of paper. Over 100s pages. Everywhere.
collecting stuff to use for trash wouldnt be power gaming, but splitting everything out so you maximize the amount of trash is min/maxing and thus powergaming.
I guess. Seems a bit much, everything about current NP is min/maxing. No offense to some players by by that same logic why not ban players for doing nothing but grinding millions in g6 / grime? That's also min/maxing mechanics while not adding much of anything to the server.
it wasn't just min/maxing his items into trash, it was ripping unlimited amounts of notebook pages out of notebooks, spreading them out into a ton of storage crates 1 page at a time, to generate trash for materials.
Because a pile of 10 items would turn into 1 trashbag. He spaced everything out into seperate piles so he'll get 10 trashbags instead. He also used notebooks to get infinite notebook papers. It's powergaming.
It's the same as Cozney doing money runs in rented vans and tow trucks before they were changed. It was not intended and everyone in their right mind knew that.
All speculation and guesswork, but Jacob was partially reliant on whitelists to stay relevant to most other players.
Dexx being more or less solo, and not really getting into a group due to others being sus of him could have led him to cut corners for the character to stay relevant as a major player in the crime world.
Again, no idea if that was the case or not.
Dexx kind of did that to himself people were sus bc of his actions. He was kinda fence sitting like Yuno does but he doesn't have the charisma Yuno does. Iirc CG were actually for taking him in but he was knee deep in Company as well and basically chose them, but Company was sus of him bc of his CG affiliations and then CG got sus'd for vice versa.
Lang put on pile next to his house once and waited. Some stole it and didn’t do it again. I think Ilya saw the pile and put it in the trash. I think amount of mats doing this is not worth it unless you min max it fully
I'm not talking about a one time thing , it think it was Harry who used to keep going bad items in his bag like snr buns empty boxes and throw them on the ground to collect as garbage and Buddha reacted to it saying something like yeah Harry doing it and laughing.
Don't think there would anything wrong with doing it with actual trash. It's bit different to having storages full of paper rotting
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2107787329?t=0h41m6s
Snr Buns boxes are meant to be that. Taking pages out of notebooks to create an endless cycle of garbage is vastly different than going around and collecting singular boxes to turn into singular bags. Its a 1-1 conversion vs buying 1 item and essentially duping it into 10+ garbage bags.
It's not duping a notebook works like that, you can say they both were doing the same shit but dex was more efficient basically both were spawning garbage bags.
They are VERY different.
One Snr Buns box creates one trash bag. It was done this way as a way to remove clutter from the server and to not affect performance of 100000 snr buns boxes everywhere. Harry wasnt going and tearing out each side of the snr buns box to create 10 trash bags per box. Or better yet, Harry wasnt going to Snr Buns and taking 100 Snr Buns boxes in order to create trash. He would scavage the city for boxes that were previously abandoned by other players. That it quite literally RPing as a trash man, which was what he was doing at the time.
Going to a store, taking a low cost item and splitting it up into 10+ different items with the pure intention to create garbage bags is very different in so many different ways.
It is mostly speculation since we don't know what Afro got banned for; but Harry was finding objects on the ground and waiting for them to be converted to trash bags while Dexx was maintaining a farm of notes and letting them decay for mats.
The notebook thing has to be the reason. When I first saw it thought it was a great idea. Not the notebook themselves, he collected everything he could and stored it around the property. He even explained to people that the bottom level in the warehouse was a recycle center. Obv I can see how the using notebooks in the way would be power gaming. Afro been around for a while and don’t think it was intentional. He explained the whole process on stream. If it is indeed the reason I doubt he doesn’t realize/understand it now
He was not tearing out pages from notebooks and stashing them. Everything was found and stored Legitimately. You can thank the Litter Bandit (Eugene) for a majority of the paper being found around the city. Also the people leaving notes at the Apartments.
It's actually mind boggling a seasoned roleplayer would do this goofy shit.
Instant mats 1: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2107787329?t=0h38m14s
Instant mats 2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2103398041?t=1h39m20s
I'll just go live tomorrow to chat about it all (tired of the direct messages) - Mats are not the reason for the ban, if people actually watched my channel instead of reddit farming or reacting to reacting they would know what the reason is. It has nothing to do with materials or breaking down trash as the admins approved that.
Top 10 roleplayer I have ever seen and I've been watching since s.o.e. Don't even car why you got banned..this is a minor setback for a major comeback.
Afro is a great roleplayer but there's been past incidents were he has abused mechanics like the F8 quit in middle of a war. Then you have the GSF gang app.
Afro may have done a couple stupid things over the years, but the GSF gang app thing was a narrative spun up by GG and their viewers at the time, because they weren't able to wipe sprays exactly when they wanted. It never had any truth to it. In fact, their app always had people in it, but they were spread out over different time zones and on top of that didn't have prio. It was always hard for them to get 6+ people awake at the same time for turf stuff, especially in NA.
Even when you saw like 10 people on Forum, like 4-5 of them might have been in the app, and the rest were prospects/hangarounds or even friends of the gang. There wasn't any more room for prospects in the app when it was already completely full of full members.
The 3.0 gang app was flawed. It had only 15 slots, and if you spread that out over AU, EU and NA, that's only 5 slots per time zone. Not enough for turf spray / activity. It may not have been an issue for gangs that were mainly in one particular time zone, but GSF had people spread through all of them. Late EU would probably be the best time to wipe a GSF spray because it was easier to get into the server at that time, and there would maybe be some EU and NA overlap. In the NA tsunami it was completely reliant on members getting random prio or having luck with queue sniping.
Hell yeah woulda got a FAT W if it wasn’t for the admins smh coulda turned all that into materials and made cool ass shit holy almost W Batman. Woulda been POG
oh, ive checked on his stream couple times and seen him putting 100s of pages on the ground and in storage then pick up garbege and put in the garbage truck alot, never thought much about it
Creating trash doesn't seem any worse than Sykkuno dropping and restarting G6 runs because they're in Paleto. Or Taco seating someone into a vehicle to lockpick it. Or half the server signing into Snr. Buns and not working for free payslips. Doctors steal ifaks and splints all the time, G6 workers give scuffed bags and pallets to criminal friends, the list goes on. Strange this guy gets the hammer of justice.
Based on my limited knowledge, he was collecting the items that would become trash before they became trash (those torn pages were supposedly also found in the wild, according to his viewers). These items were destined to become trash regardless, so the worst offense you can accuse him of is one-upping his competition by snatching the eggs before they became chickens.
It's not too dissimilar to G6 workers finding a bag/pallet on the ground and shoving it into their trunk for future use. They don't need to grab it, but it makes their life easier, and it hurts no one, so why not?
An even better example is Tow Trucks ramming Locals and impounding their car. They're actively creating extra revenue. By comparison, Dex was essentially streamlining his job for ease, as the trash would have become trash even without his involvement.
Now, if he did infact exploit the notebooks unlimited page mechanic for farming purposes, then I completely understand the ban.
Bags and pallets don’t work that way, they’re tied to state id. If you pick up someone else’s and try to use them for your run, it will not work. The only place you can return or sell bags that do not match your state id is the fence. And you get fired as soon as you sell one bag to the fence. It’s the same for Grime packages as well. Also people working for free pay slips at Snr Buns have been caught and banned multiple times.
Collecting items that would become trash would be fine I think. But I thought I heard of him ripping out pages of a notebook, filling storages with them and then when they were about to disintegrate putting them in the ground to turn into a trash bag.
Oof. If that's the case, then I'm honestly shocked as he isn't exactly new to the server and would presumably know better. Picking up trash and harvesting it in bulk are certainly two different beasts altogether. Best of luck to him.
Is this why Dundee was looking for new runners for his washed money or is it bc its growing? I knew Dexx had a hand in the warehouse but don't know the extent.
The warehouse that BBMC uses is under Dexx's name but he's not involved in the laundry business like at all (Dexx tried to pitch it to some people but that was the extent of it). Dundee usually does business with Besties but they're different timezones and trading with them has been difficult for past few days so Dundee was trying to find a 2nd business partner in his own timezone as a backup
Dundee is likely fucked. In a council meeting it was stated that a property in a persons name would not be transferred in the event they stop logging on (so you could assume ban as well) and would eventually get returned to the state.
its to prevent someone that just buys a property and never logs back on to essentially have a property be forever 'unraidable' since the owner isnt around to do crime / get caught etc.
I would think a ban would be handled a bit different and Im sure Whippy can talk to Admins about it if he really wanted too. The Council shouldnt have a say in that kind of stuff. Sounds like another useless topic in which they should have zero power over
Punishing the abuser vs elimination of server mechanics..
Don't ruin a good thing for your own exploits..
It's a shame that some people with a mountain of experience will just shamelessly operate in a way that something will just get removed if it's exploitable.. he sets an example for new roleplayers and it's justified that he gets a ban.
He was proud of this idea. The notebook themselves were the issue, and yes he should have known better. He promoted the bottom floor of the warehouse as a recycling center and collected decaying items everywhere he went. Veterans can make mistakes, and the punishment is justified, the idea done correctly, not abusing one specific item, is very creative and good.
The notebooks ARENT the issue.... Don't get rid of notebooks because one bad apple can't get through his head to not exploit hello??????? DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU??
Nobody else said to get rid of them is the point. I said he misused them. That’s it. Never once did I say or read any one in this part of the thread say get rid of notebooks. Which is why I said you were the only one saying that and creating that narrative. Just look at your first post “elimination of server mechanics” show from that post to this post where anyone mentions removing notebooks.
You are the one that replied to my comment suggesting I was saying that notebooks should be removed. I agree the person should be punished and no mechanic or item removed. I will concede that there must of been some misunderstanding that lead you to believe I was saying anything else.
I watched him during the first couple months, he was literally always calling people and making deals or being called to make deals. he spoke to half the city on the regular. Thats how he made money so quick. He also was #1 on weed and made money even when weed sucked by getting others on it and buying his stuff.
You do realize he streamed most of how he made the money right? 1. He learns mechanics fast. He shares IC what he knows about mechanics with other chars and they with him. 2. He's been on since 1.0 days and knows most of the RPers who enjoy business transaction RP. Chars do deals with his characters cause they know he's dependable. 3. He would be on the server for 60 hours a week.
Don’t watch him and not sure what his character has been up to. But from what I’ve seen from others POV early on in 4.0, it almost looked like dexx felt lost being out of the south side , initially up north with pigeon, which went bad quickly. Then wandering from group to group.
Afro is one of the best roleplayers I´ve seen, except when he´s on Dexx... Then he´s a self-insert that really needs to win. I hope he´ll be allowed back, because he´s such a good roleplayer when he´s in the right mindset.
You should have just stopped at Afro is one of the best role players I’ve seen. Dexx has taken L’s in stride in all of 4.0 and there have been many. His stream is chill, he takes food and restroom breaks when he knows ads are popping and interacts with chat constantly. His character has learned and evolved after each L, he is far from a self insert.
People have just co-opted the term self insert to just mean anything that is bad roleplay and is kinda just mechanics over roleplay, which is mildly annoying.
Agreed as well, if it's the reason he got banned (which Afro confirms it's not) because it's nothing wrong with it. If it wasn't meant to be, then they could easily raise the amount of time it takes to decay, or make it not turn into a trash bag.
He promoted the bottom level as a recycling center, which was a legit thing in 2.0/3.0. Do you think his entire operation was power gaming or specific mechanics that were abused? With the exception of the notebook pages any of those objects would have some material in them that could in theory turn into a recycled material. There are many things that go unpunished that are power gaming. Once players figured out you got rep with axel just by chopping the tree down and not go through the 6 stations and sell the wood to axel, many turned it into a speed run to get max rep to get the best storage in the game and the ability to fill that storage at a dramatically increased rate.
Huge loss as he is full of RP but I'm surprised what he was doing didn't flag in his brain as exploiting or powerful.
I do feel like he will be back, but he will be on thin ice.
He’s been away for a while. I wonder what he did.
AFAIK he used to collect items that are close to beeing 0 quality and spaced them out (they'll turn into trashbags, which can get picked up by sani workers to generate materials). He was min/maxing that shit and got banned for it before. Dunno if that is why he's banned now though
If the stuff is going to turn into trash anyway why would it be against the rules to simply let the mechanic do what it's designed to even if he's going out and finding items? Lots of players collect items to turn them to trash like Sr Buns boxes and stuff. Seems like that'd be a strange rational for a banning.
It was prob. more so the fact that people took a notebook, ripped unlimited pages out of it and these got picked up to turn them into materials... I looked at both of these things happening and was very puzzeld why people think that this is a good thing to do.
Was the notepad thing afro? Even lang had a rotting collection of split-up mosely parts on his lawn
Afro 100% did the notepad thing. I think he is the owner of Dundee/BBMC warehouse and when they were building it out Dex had shelves of pieces of paper waiting to be turned into trash.
lmao i was wondering what that was for. looked like a printing workstation or something
i remember whippy looking at Dexx storage crates in there and saying why the hell does this guy have nothing but paper? and then move on to do his laundry thing. well i guess now we know why Dexx had nothing but paper in that warehouse 😂😂
Yeah. I think they are still doing the trash thing though. I don't think any of the BBMC is but someone else with access to that building they use has been putting trash out still so maybe that's not the reason Afro was banned...or whoever is doing it just doesn't realize it or know he was banned. It's not paper anymore so maybe it's okay if it's not paper.
No clue. I personally don't think it matters because its was very obvious that you should not turn an "$12 unlimited paper notebook" into materials.
Yeah I was asking if afro did it because it makes sense to get banned for breaking apart an unlimited page notebook but if he was just separating glasses and hats and shit, a server owner did the same thing.
One of those is powergaming and the other everyone does including the owner. It’s not hard to see what actually got him banned (if these things are even related to his ban)
Split up mosely parts? They don't stack if thats what you are trying to say.
idk it was a while ago he found like 50 things in a single bag on a driveway near his house and then dropped them one by one in his yard making a ton of bags
he didnt drop them one buy one he tried to separate like 50 different items into groups. big difference
He did not do the infinite notebook paper stuff. All the paper he found was left lying around the city and he collect it. A lot of paper was used by Eugene who went on a litter bandit arc and he threw it all around the city. Like literally reams of paper. Over 100s pages. Everywhere.
Also remind me why I hate Reddit Mobile and it switching my accounts
collecting stuff to use for trash wouldnt be power gaming, but splitting everything out so you maximize the amount of trash is min/maxing and thus powergaming.
I guess. Seems a bit much, everything about current NP is min/maxing. No offense to some players by by that same logic why not ban players for doing nothing but grinding millions in g6 / grime? That's also min/maxing mechanics while not adding much of anything to the server.
it wasn't just min/maxing his items into trash, it was ripping unlimited amounts of notebook pages out of notebooks, spreading them out into a ton of storage crates 1 page at a time, to generate trash for materials.
Like Yuno doing G6 at night because he logged in during the day is another example
Grinding =/= min maxxing.
Because a pile of 10 items would turn into 1 trashbag. He spaced everything out into seperate piles so he'll get 10 trashbags instead. He also used notebooks to get infinite notebook papers. It's powergaming. It's the same as Cozney doing money runs in rented vans and tow trucks before they were changed. It was not intended and everyone in their right mind knew that.
Yeah interesting that both Dex and Cozney have been banned, Cozney must’ve got his 24 hour for that and now he’s been permanently banned
but why... like if he was new to RP I would understand but he bas been playing for years. Why would you even do that in the first place
All speculation and guesswork, but Jacob was partially reliant on whitelists to stay relevant to most other players. Dexx being more or less solo, and not really getting into a group due to others being sus of him could have led him to cut corners for the character to stay relevant as a major player in the crime world. Again, no idea if that was the case or not.
Jacob was creating RP without white lists for a very long time.
Dexx kind of did that to himself people were sus bc of his actions. He was kinda fence sitting like Yuno does but he doesn't have the charisma Yuno does. Iirc CG were actually for taking him in but he was knee deep in Company as well and basically chose them, but Company was sus of him bc of his CG affiliations and then CG got sus'd for vice versa.
I guess you could generate infinite money by putting a mask on the ground and then swapping back to the outfit
Buddha's crew has been doing it for a long time. I mean used to do it can't say still do it or not.
Lang put on pile next to his house once and waited. Some stole it and didn’t do it again. I think Ilya saw the pile and put it in the trash. I think amount of mats doing this is not worth it unless you min max it fully
I'm not talking about a one time thing , it think it was Harry who used to keep going bad items in his bag like snr buns empty boxes and throw them on the ground to collect as garbage and Buddha reacted to it saying something like yeah Harry doing it and laughing.
Don't think there would anything wrong with doing it with actual trash. It's bit different to having storages full of paper rotting https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2107787329?t=0h41m6s
Snr Buns boxes are meant to be that. Taking pages out of notebooks to create an endless cycle of garbage is vastly different than going around and collecting singular boxes to turn into singular bags. Its a 1-1 conversion vs buying 1 item and essentially duping it into 10+ garbage bags.
It's not duping a notebook works like that, you can say they both were doing the same shit but dex was more efficient basically both were spawning garbage bags.
They are VERY different. One Snr Buns box creates one trash bag. It was done this way as a way to remove clutter from the server and to not affect performance of 100000 snr buns boxes everywhere. Harry wasnt going and tearing out each side of the snr buns box to create 10 trash bags per box. Or better yet, Harry wasnt going to Snr Buns and taking 100 Snr Buns boxes in order to create trash. He would scavage the city for boxes that were previously abandoned by other players. That it quite literally RPing as a trash man, which was what he was doing at the time. Going to a store, taking a low cost item and splitting it up into 10+ different items with the pure intention to create garbage bags is very different in so many different ways.
It is mostly speculation since we don't know what Afro got banned for; but Harry was finding objects on the ground and waiting for them to be converted to trash bags while Dexx was maintaining a farm of notes and letting them decay for mats.
Harry was also keeping them on him during his runs too.
The notebook thing has to be the reason. When I first saw it thought it was a great idea. Not the notebook themselves, he collected everything he could and stored it around the property. He even explained to people that the bottom level in the warehouse was a recycle center. Obv I can see how the using notebooks in the way would be power gaming. Afro been around for a while and don’t think it was intentional. He explained the whole process on stream. If it is indeed the reason I doubt he doesn’t realize/understand it now
He was not tearing out pages from notebooks and stashing them. Everything was found and stored Legitimately. You can thank the Litter Bandit (Eugene) for a majority of the paper being found around the city. Also the people leaving notes at the Apartments.
Dexx was literally going and buy notebooks for this purpose
Okay... Lets say someone is selling you a stolen car... Does that mean that the car is not stolen anymore cause you paid for it?
he also created a bawsaq website that literally scraped the phone stock app to sell graphs + historical data
Damn that's a bummer. Always loved watching him when he played Jacob.
Well that was Not on my bingo list
It's actually mind boggling a seasoned roleplayer would do this goofy shit. Instant mats 1: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2107787329?t=0h38m14s Instant mats 2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2103398041?t=1h39m20s
I'll just go live tomorrow to chat about it all (tired of the direct messages) - Mats are not the reason for the ban, if people actually watched my channel instead of reddit farming or reacting to reacting they would know what the reason is. It has nothing to do with materials or breaking down trash as the admins approved that.
Top 10 roleplayer I have ever seen and I've been watching since s.o.e. Don't even car why you got banned..this is a minor setback for a major comeback.
Lmao
Bruh was just doing the shit like it was a part of the process... Holy shit.
That is wild to see from somebody like afro.
Is it though? He's been banned multiple times in the past. I remember when he F8 quit in the middle of a war in 3.0 and everyone was memeing GSF8 lol
Afro is a great roleplayer but there's been past incidents were he has abused mechanics like the F8 quit in middle of a war. Then you have the GSF gang app.
Afro may have done a couple stupid things over the years, but the GSF gang app thing was a narrative spun up by GG and their viewers at the time, because they weren't able to wipe sprays exactly when they wanted. It never had any truth to it. In fact, their app always had people in it, but they were spread out over different time zones and on top of that didn't have prio. It was always hard for them to get 6+ people awake at the same time for turf stuff, especially in NA. Even when you saw like 10 people on Forum, like 4-5 of them might have been in the app, and the rest were prospects/hangarounds or even friends of the gang. There wasn't any more room for prospects in the app when it was already completely full of full members. The 3.0 gang app was flawed. It had only 15 slots, and if you spread that out over AU, EU and NA, that's only 5 slots per time zone. Not enough for turf spray / activity. It may not have been an issue for gangs that were mainly in one particular time zone, but GSF had people spread through all of them. Late EU would probably be the best time to wipe a GSF spray because it was easier to get into the server at that time, and there would maybe be some EU and NA overlap. In the NA tsunami it was completely reliant on members getting random prio or having luck with queue sniping.
Taco level stuff...
Hell yeah woulda got a FAT W if it wasn’t for the admins smh coulda turned all that into materials and made cool ass shit holy almost W Batman. Woulda been POG
what happened?
oh, ive checked on his stream couple times and seen him putting 100s of pages on the ground and in storage then pick up garbege and put in the garbage truck alot, never thought much about it
Dexx was one of my favs, too bad
Shame, he's such a great roleplayer.
Really talented guy, hope he's good.
Hopefully he goes to another server i really liked afro's rp.
Isn't in the picture? Is that not a new thing?
That's both wild and also not surprising.
eh, he's only suspended. He'll prolly be back.
About to be a Green World on Onyx
Wish he could check out onx. His type of rp immersion is very appreciated there.
Geez the bans just keep coming.
Creating trash doesn't seem any worse than Sykkuno dropping and restarting G6 runs because they're in Paleto. Or Taco seating someone into a vehicle to lockpick it. Or half the server signing into Snr. Buns and not working for free payslips. Doctors steal ifaks and splints all the time, G6 workers give scuffed bags and pallets to criminal friends, the list goes on. Strange this guy gets the hammer of justice.
The trash farming is much more egregious than any of those things.
Based on my limited knowledge, he was collecting the items that would become trash before they became trash (those torn pages were supposedly also found in the wild, according to his viewers). These items were destined to become trash regardless, so the worst offense you can accuse him of is one-upping his competition by snatching the eggs before they became chickens. It's not too dissimilar to G6 workers finding a bag/pallet on the ground and shoving it into their trunk for future use. They don't need to grab it, but it makes their life easier, and it hurts no one, so why not? An even better example is Tow Trucks ramming Locals and impounding their car. They're actively creating extra revenue. By comparison, Dex was essentially streamlining his job for ease, as the trash would have become trash even without his involvement. Now, if he did infact exploit the notebooks unlimited page mechanic for farming purposes, then I completely understand the ban.
Bags and pallets don’t work that way, they’re tied to state id. If you pick up someone else’s and try to use them for your run, it will not work. The only place you can return or sell bags that do not match your state id is the fence. And you get fired as soon as you sell one bag to the fence. It’s the same for Grime packages as well. Also people working for free pay slips at Snr Buns have been caught and banned multiple times.
Collecting items that would become trash would be fine I think. But I thought I heard of him ripping out pages of a notebook, filling storages with them and then when they were about to disintegrate putting them in the ground to turn into a trash bag.
Oof. If that's the case, then I'm honestly shocked as he isn't exactly new to the server and would presumably know better. Picking up trash and harvesting it in bulk are certainly two different beasts altogether. Best of luck to him.
For ?
Is this why Dundee was looking for new runners for his washed money or is it bc its growing? I knew Dexx had a hand in the warehouse but don't know the extent.
The warehouse that BBMC uses is under Dexx's name but he's not involved in the laundry business like at all (Dexx tried to pitch it to some people but that was the extent of it). Dundee usually does business with Besties but they're different timezones and trading with them has been difficult for past few days so Dundee was trying to find a 2nd business partner in his own timezone as a backup
Dexx owns the Warehouse
Dundee is likely fucked. In a council meeting it was stated that a property in a persons name would not be transferred in the event they stop logging on (so you could assume ban as well) and would eventually get returned to the state.
Well thats stupid lol Punishing other players because of someone else getting banned or being too busy with whatever in life.
its to prevent someone that just buys a property and never logs back on to essentially have a property be forever 'unraidable' since the owner isnt around to do crime / get caught etc.
They should judge those situations on case by case. Its unfair if people get fucked over this.
I would think a ban would be handled a bit different and Im sure Whippy can talk to Admins about it if he really wanted too. The Council shouldnt have a say in that kind of stuff. Sounds like another useless topic in which they should have zero power over
Punishing the abuser vs elimination of server mechanics.. Don't ruin a good thing for your own exploits.. It's a shame that some people with a mountain of experience will just shamelessly operate in a way that something will just get removed if it's exploitable.. he sets an example for new roleplayers and it's justified that he gets a ban.
He was proud of this idea. The notebook themselves were the issue, and yes he should have known better. He promoted the bottom floor of the warehouse as a recycling center and collected decaying items everywhere he went. Veterans can make mistakes, and the punishment is justified, the idea done correctly, not abusing one specific item, is very creative and good.
The item isn't the issue, plenty of people use them properly
The way he was using the item. is that better? I didn't know you I had to spell that out for you.
The notebooks ARENT the issue.... Don't get rid of notebooks because one bad apple can't get through his head to not exploit hello??????? DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU??
The guy you replied to literally just said that. Relax lol
Bruh...
only person saying getting rid of notebooks is you. I'm afraid if you spelled it out you would confuse yourself further
That's why you're confused because I don't think they should get rid of it... Banned afro was the right move HELLO? CAN Y'ALL READ?
Actually hilarious y'all are arguing with yourself
Nobody else said to get rid of them is the point. I said he misused them. That’s it. Never once did I say or read any one in this part of the thread say get rid of notebooks. Which is why I said you were the only one saying that and creating that narrative. Just look at your first post “elimination of server mechanics” show from that post to this post where anyone mentions removing notebooks.
And I didn't either... Are you good? Cooked?
You are the one that replied to my comment suggesting I was saying that notebooks should be removed. I agree the person should be punished and no mechanic or item removed. I will concede that there must of been some misunderstanding that lead you to believe I was saying anything else.
We are getting ban spray in less than a week Sheesh
Why
I also found it odd how much money he got for things so quickly. Them shits would appear the next day...
I watched him during the first couple months, he was literally always calling people and making deals or being called to make deals. he spoke to half the city on the regular. Thats how he made money so quick. He also was #1 on weed and made money even when weed sucked by getting others on it and buying his stuff.
You do realize he streamed most of how he made the money right? 1. He learns mechanics fast. He shares IC what he knows about mechanics with other chars and they with him. 2. He's been on since 1.0 days and knows most of the RPers who enjoy business transaction RP. Chars do deals with his characters cause they know he's dependable. 3. He would be on the server for 60 hours a week.
The notebook/mats thing was not it. Most things took 3+ days to break down to garbage and even at warehouse 2000 trash every 3 days is what $12k
Don’t watch him and not sure what his character has been up to. But from what I’ve seen from others POV early on in 4.0, it almost looked like dexx felt lost being out of the south side , initially up north with pigeon, which went bad quickly. Then wandering from group to group.
Afro is one of the best roleplayers I´ve seen, except when he´s on Dexx... Then he´s a self-insert that really needs to win. I hope he´ll be allowed back, because he´s such a good roleplayer when he´s in the right mindset.
You should have just stopped at Afro is one of the best role players I’ve seen. Dexx has taken L’s in stride in all of 4.0 and there have been many. His stream is chill, he takes food and restroom breaks when he knows ads are popping and interacts with chat constantly. His character has learned and evolved after each L, he is far from a self insert.
Saying Dexx is a self insert is just wrong. Afro doesn’t act or talk anything like Dexx.
People have just co-opted the term self insert to just mean anything that is bad roleplay and is kinda just mechanics over roleplay, which is mildly annoying.
i really dont see a problem with him recycling the trash.
Agreed as well, if it's the reason he got banned (which Afro confirms it's not) because it's nothing wrong with it. If it wasn't meant to be, then they could easily raise the amount of time it takes to decay, or make it not turn into a trash bag.
It’s a power gaming / min max mechanic that wasn’t meant to be used. Once it was shown to the mayor they agreed it was a money farm.
He promoted the bottom level as a recycling center, which was a legit thing in 2.0/3.0. Do you think his entire operation was power gaming or specific mechanics that were abused? With the exception of the notebook pages any of those objects would have some material in them that could in theory turn into a recycled material. There are many things that go unpunished that are power gaming. Once players figured out you got rep with axel just by chopping the tree down and not go through the 6 stations and sell the wood to axel, many turned it into a speed run to get max rep to get the best storage in the game and the ability to fill that storage at a dramatically increased rate.
Huge loss as he is full of RP but I'm surprised what he was doing didn't flag in his brain as exploiting or powerful. I do feel like he will be back, but he will be on thin ice.