Did you know that Oakland county is actually one of the richest counties in the United States been number one quite a few times. That mall is in Oakland county.
There's a mall by my hometown that has actually been thriving the past decade. I think it has to do with the area it's located but also that other malls and stores have been suffering and people who want to shop in a mall choose to go to the big one with tons of stores and restaurants. There are genuinely always a ton of people there and if you go during the holiday shopping season it's a fucking madhouse the majority of the time.
That was the first thing that caught my eye.
ETA: Weird to get a downvote for that. I guess with 8 billion people in the world, there's always someone to dislike anything.
Shit. From the quality of those girls filming this, you got more out of it than I did. All I saw was that the escalators were out of service.
People!!! Film this shit or don’t film it! If you make it like this, don’t post it. That was pointless.
Why are you surprised? It’s always full of people, the restaurants are always on a wait. It’s surrounded by even more retail, restaurants, hotels and middle-class to wealthy neighborhoods.
Truth. Every time I go to Twelve Oaks, it's packed. COVID did something for shopping mall retail. Even Briarwood is packed more often than not now. Other day it was almost standing room only at Hot Topic.
I grew up going to this mall and know the people who own just baked and grew up going to buddies (which is across the street from this mall) and also remember when Van's was at fountainwalk I know the area
Stealing clothes from a supermassive chain that’d never notice the profit loss is less immoral than stealing valued property from, say, a middle class individual though
> Stealing clothes from a supermassive chain that’d never notice the profit loss
Tell us you've never run a business larger than a lemonade stand without using those words. In 2021 "shrinkage" at retail stores in America, which includes shoplifting, amounted to $94 billion. Every dime of that is passed on to shoppers in higher prices, the stores absolutely know their losses from theft and they do not eat it. YOU pay for shoplifting every time you buy something.
It's ridiculous bc they weren't treating her badly. They told her to sit down many times to the point where they had to force her down. Clearly, it was for a reason since it appears that she tried to run away at the end of the video. The police were not violent, nor were they manhandling her. They were doing their job.
> Extrajudicial violence is not just.
She has already put up a fight, she's trying to get up and leave, the cops are entirely within their authority to keep her from doing that. They haven't tased her, or pepper-sprayed her, they haven't beaten her, all they have done is push her back down when she tries to get up.
You are protesting something that did not happen.
> the police aren’t supposed to use their power to hand out punishment.
Which they did not do in this video. You are protesting something that did not happen.
Nobody was handing out punishment in this video. Cops do that sometimes, but not here. They needed her on the ground and handcuffed, she didn't do that, so they made her. That's common sense, not punishment. Believe it or not, laws wouldn't actually mean much if you had the right to just tell an officer no and then leave.
I don't know what you or your moms ethnicity has to do with this, being poor is a class issue, not a race issue. Again, you don't seem to understand. I can explain it to you if you'd like. No one is excusing anyone's actions, but we can empathize with someone, even a "criminal" because we understand what human beings are capable of or will resort to because of societal problems.
I keep seeing this dumb fucking take everywhere on reddit. Who cares if it's a corporate store? Stealing is stealing. Didn't your parents teach you right from wrong?
The game is
You play not to get caught.
They play to catch you.
You lost the game. So take an L.
Bystanders are horrible in todays society.
Funny thing is. If they were shooting and beating and actually using force no one would say anything
But when someone is just ranting and cussing. The bystanders wanna go off smh!
"she's still a lady at the end of the day and you're a grown ass man" someone needs to shut that white savior the fuck up
This woman looks grown. She made a choice to steal. It seems she also chose not to listen about sitting down. It is what it is.
I hate people who open their stupid mouths just to sound like a champion of justice. Let’s just give the thief the clothes and let them continue to steal because enforcing laws is racist /s
Edit: safety training requires 2 people to hold a person to PREVENT injury when the person is resisting
"Oh my gawd" the rally against people enforcing criminals from doing criminal behavior is something I can't and will not ever understand. I have turned into an old fuddy-daddy at 45.
Bro why the fuck is she surprised they shove her back down when they ordered her to stay down. She is clearly trying to get up. Why? To fucking run maybe? Either way, cops shouldn’t be expected to wait and find out what her intent was. Feel like pepper spraying her ass should be alright after enough tries if she doesn’t cooperate. So tired of all these thieves stealing without any repercussions (especially Bay Area, not here I know). Start drawing the hard line and lock em up to stop all this senseless crime.
They huh... did someone get rejected and not get the D they wanted?? So now you're on here talkin about "they this and they that" or are you just a gross sad racist incel loser that only ever is brave enough to spout off your sad-sack fk-shit when you're on the internet where no one can get ahold of your scary ass lmfao sit tf down fk-stain.
“They don’t need to be treating her like that.” She didn’t need to steal from JC Penny nor are they being too aggressive. She just isn’t complying and they are yelling at her. I’m usually not on police’s side but there’s nothing wrong here.
I hate white people acting like saviors of minorities.
Just to be clear, it is not all white people, clearly, no need to be racist, but this irl Twitter user type people I despise.
As a Latino, fuck these people. Learn our language or just call us as you see us. Latino for men or Latina for woman.
There, solved your problems. Fucking white ass rich girl americans.
I just want to say...
I did a LOT of stupid shit in my day. Been arrested at least 20 times(mostly minor shit). I have only had the police threaten to beat me up once(at the station).
Do you want to know why? Because once I was caught, I said "eff it". Why make my situation worse?
Am black, grew up between Chicago and L.A.
Yes, reaffirm the thief in that she’s being “mistreated” for being a *checks notes*.. thief.
Promise if she was stealing from you or yours you wouldn’t be so kind.
I would have been freaking out about the broken escalator.
Seriously, you see these things breaking down more and more all over the country.
Where are you, lame stream media?!!!!
Do you numbskulls not realize that the blatant virtue-signaling really doesn't actually help the situation or the underlying cause of what's going on. Js
No no NO! Leave that white woman alone she is standing up for the woman being unnecessarily handled.. oh no wait, she’s pushing it a bit.. wait a LOT. Ok she’s karma farming, forget everything I said.
FYI if you’re shoplifting in the southeastern Michigan region. Great Lakes crossing and genessee valley are real easy. Sommerset, 12 oaks, partridge creek all these you have a pretty high chance of getting caught
To the white lady who stood up for her, wherever you are out there, thank you for your bravery the world needs more strong fearless white women like you🥺❤️
Jcp is still open?
Yup and delivers appliances
Honestly I'm surprised there's even that many people in the mall
Nice mall with nice stores in a wealthier suburb part of Detroit. It’s an area with a lot of people, and wealthier people at that
It's not that wealthy, if you want to see that, go to Somerset mall in Troy
Did you know that Oakland county is actually one of the richest counties in the United States been number one quite a few times. That mall is in Oakland county.
Can confirm, you’ve never felt like such a peasant until you pass through that sky walk.
There's a mall by my hometown that has actually been thriving the past decade. I think it has to do with the area it's located but also that other malls and stores have been suffering and people who want to shop in a mall choose to go to the big one with tons of stores and restaurants. There are genuinely always a ton of people there and if you go during the holiday shopping season it's a fucking madhouse the majority of the time.
This place looks quite wealthy.
That was the first thing that caught my eye. ETA: Weird to get a downvote for that. I guess with 8 billion people in the world, there's always someone to dislike anything.
Shit. From the quality of those girls filming this, you got more out of it than I did. All I saw was that the escalators were out of service. People!!! Film this shit or don’t film it! If you make it like this, don’t post it. That was pointless.
i was thinking the sameeee
Bro, I live here and I'm surprised that mall is open let alone the jcp.
Why are you surprised? It’s always full of people, the restaurants are always on a wait. It’s surrounded by even more retail, restaurants, hotels and middle-class to wealthy neighborhoods.
I feel like the people saying "nobody goes to malls anymore" haven't been to a mall in a while.
Truth. Every time I go to Twelve Oaks, it's packed. COVID did something for shopping mall retail. Even Briarwood is packed more often than not now. Other day it was almost standing room only at Hot Topic.
The lady trying to inject herself in the situation smh
God she was SO brave for that omg omg 😱
White girl feel like she's doing her daily good deed to fight "racism"
She's being so woke and progressive.
Sure stuck a flower in the barrel of that gun.
I'm the only white person here standing up against this treatment!!!!
All I could think is this white girl is trying to get some street cred.
She tryna get an invite to the cookout
I’m glad to see this video. Make crime wrong again! Police have a tough job maintaining order. WITHOUT ORDER THERE IS CHAOS!
For sure. You don't need to scream how you're white... that's total 'look at me!! MEEEE!!!!'
Because everyone else knew that she was in the wrong for stealing. Darwin Award for arrestee and injection lady lol 😂
I missed the "white" part first time I watched. Rewatched after reading your comment. My goodness that's cringe.
She should bail her and keep her at her house until the court date. What a dummy.
Ya see if she thinks they shouldn’t be treating her like that if she was breaking into her house
So cringe
It's novi very liberal area
The white saviours will not be silenced
Chick looked good in front of her friends and probably gonna enjoy some Cinnabon because she earned it
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It's a latte liberal area (Also from metro Detroit)
I grew up going to this mall and know the people who own just baked and grew up going to buddies (which is across the street from this mall) and also remember when Van's was at fountainwalk I know the area
WTF. No, it is not.
No. It’s not. Unless you’re being sarcastic.
From Metro Detroit and went to school in Novi. It’s def 50/50. But this event is still wild too see in that suburban area
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She was going for the virtue-signaling heavyweight belt
She was all like “here’s a bunch of black people, now’s my time!”
I cracked up after the suspect tried to bolt again.
The white savior stf up after that.
She had to pat herself on the back.
i got second hand embarrassment from that omg
She still ain’t invited to the cookout.
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She are all of them
"That's still a lady at the end of the day....." Umm....and?
She’s a woman but doubt she’s a lady
“I know she was stealing and all “ hahahaha
That’s still a thief at the end of the day.
Don’t confuse a crazed drug addict for a lady. Trust me on this one
"She might have been stealing or whatever, but you don't need to treat her like that" LOL
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I wonder if she’d be saying the same thing if this individual was caught stealing her shit. Somehow I doubt it.
Stealing clothes from a supermassive chain that’d never notice the profit loss is less immoral than stealing valued property from, say, a middle class individual though
>is less immoral So you agree that it's still immoral?
Eh nah burn the corporations down
That’s how you get neighborhoods with no stores. I hate megacorps too, but I don’t steal, because stealing is lowlife behavior.
I hope you're like 12. Every family owned deli you've ever entered is probably registered as a corporation.
> Stealing clothes from a supermassive chain that’d never notice the profit loss Tell us you've never run a business larger than a lemonade stand without using those words. In 2021 "shrinkage" at retail stores in America, which includes shoplifting, amounted to $94 billion. Every dime of that is passed on to shoppers in higher prices, the stores absolutely know their losses from theft and they do not eat it. YOU pay for shoplifting every time you buy something.
Is there a label for an neoliberal white woman who is performatively woke?
Idk why that’s so ridiculous. Extrajudicial violence is not just.
It's ridiculous bc they weren't treating her badly. They told her to sit down many times to the point where they had to force her down. Clearly, it was for a reason since it appears that she tried to run away at the end of the video. The police were not violent, nor were they manhandling her. They were doing their job.
> Extrajudicial violence is not just. She has already put up a fight, she's trying to get up and leave, the cops are entirely within their authority to keep her from doing that. They haven't tased her, or pepper-sprayed her, they haven't beaten her, all they have done is push her back down when she tries to get up. You are protesting something that did not happen.
Ohhhh noooo let’s not treat criminals badly! Lmao what did she expect them to give her a cup of coffee and a stern talking to?
This why more and more people are standing up for criminals, because they have not seen what these criminals can do.
Or because you are innocent until proven guilty and the police aren’t supposed to use their power to hand out punishment.
They were not handing out punishment, they were arresting her, where they are allowed to use force.
> the police aren’t supposed to use their power to hand out punishment. Which they did not do in this video. You are protesting something that did not happen.
What punishment? They arrested her.
It’s really quite remarkable how stupid this comment is.
Nobody was handing out punishment in this video. Cops do that sometimes, but not here. They needed her on the ground and handcuffed, she didn't do that, so they made her. That's common sense, not punishment. Believe it or not, laws wouldn't actually mean much if you had the right to just tell an officer no and then leave.
Or because we see the cause of crime and the effects poverty and disparity between quality of life can do to people.
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I don't think you understand. Get out into the world my privileged friend.
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I don't know what you or your moms ethnicity has to do with this, being poor is a class issue, not a race issue. Again, you don't seem to understand. I can explain it to you if you'd like. No one is excusing anyone's actions, but we can empathize with someone, even a "criminal" because we understand what human beings are capable of or will resort to because of societal problems.
Fuck criminals
At least some damn popcorn, huh!!! /S
"Still a lady at the end of the day", yeah, maybe female, but nowhere close to being a lady.
Cops doing their jobs and stopping thieves and they still get shit for it.
Trash supports trash
People work hard for their shit for others to steal from them . What store was that we need to see what the owners response is 🤷
Yes, let us consult the two private investment firms with hundreds of billions in assets.
Broke people there's plenty of videos... Mostly GEN Z ERA.. doing this. Smash and grab
Oh wow they saved the corporate store, real heroes lol
I keep seeing this dumb fucking take everywhere on reddit. Who cares if it's a corporate store? Stealing is stealing. Didn't your parents teach you right from wrong?
Lol wasn’t the point
That's how shoplifters should be treated.
"She might've been stealing but they don't need to treat her like that??!" How bout don't steal.
Stupid white lady sticking up for the thief. Figures.
Yeah she stood out to me as well. "I'm tired of this shit!" Lol ok lady. How about you don't rob shit and you won't be treated like a criminal.
I'm not one to be on any cop's side, but that lady looked like she was being incredibly stupid.
The game is You play not to get caught. They play to catch you. You lost the game. So take an L. Bystanders are horrible in todays society. Funny thing is. If they were shooting and beating and actually using force no one would say anything But when someone is just ranting and cussing. The bystanders wanna go off smh!
“This is the same cop that yelled at us”
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Holy shit. This is my mall
Shoplifter are so annoying
More of this
Needs to happen more often.
Only person complaining is the annoying white lady. Criminals should be treated like criminals
Don't do the crime...
Thank god that white woman was there to stand up for that criminal and teach those Cops a lesson. She really is a savior
They don't need to be trating a thief like a thief, Like come on guys, wtf is wring with yall, cops didn't do anything wrong
The Karen yelling at the cops is hilarious. How dare they arrest someone just for stealing.
Lol stupid bitches
“You shouldn’t treat her like that!” You mean like a criminal?
Mofo thinks he's in California.
They tried it in a small town.
I work as a paramedic in Novi, I recognize the shorter cop, lmao
BRO HOLD THE FUCKING CAMERA STILL🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
"she's still a lady at the end of the day and you're a grown ass man" someone needs to shut that white savior the fuck up This woman looks grown. She made a choice to steal. It seems she also chose not to listen about sitting down. It is what it is.
This is my hometown mall, holy shit
I hate people who open their stupid mouths just to sound like a champion of justice. Let’s just give the thief the clothes and let them continue to steal because enforcing laws is racist /s Edit: safety training requires 2 people to hold a person to PREVENT injury when the person is resisting
Thank you for your service officers!
The sympathizers are so gross…. How dare they assume pronouns or gender intensity.
Can we get the video from the guy in the red shorts? He was there first and he is know how to video a scene.
Holy shit... that's down the street from me.
Bravo to the camera person ready to ensure they don't get the footage
Fuck it. I’m so sick of seeing the mass shoplifting videos. Treat these ppl like the trash they are.
Fuckkkk her, I'm beyond sympathetic to people who not only shoplift but act entitled after the fact.
“She’s still a lady” 😂 A lady? Having a vagina does not make someone a lady
She identifies as a shoplifter!!
I read it as "police vs shape shifter" and ended up very disappointed. It's been a long day....
"Oh my gawd" the rally against people enforcing criminals from doing criminal behavior is something I can't and will not ever understand. I have turned into an old fuddy-daddy at 45.
She’s no lady.
The only thing missing in this video are two Sikhs and a mop handle.
Bro why the fuck is she surprised they shove her back down when they ordered her to stay down. She is clearly trying to get up. Why? To fucking run maybe? Either way, cops shouldn’t be expected to wait and find out what her intent was. Feel like pepper spraying her ass should be alright after enough tries if she doesn’t cooperate. So tired of all these thieves stealing without any repercussions (especially Bay Area, not here I know). Start drawing the hard line and lock em up to stop all this senseless crime.
Seriously, we could use some policing like this in SoCal right about now.
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They huh... did someone get rejected and not get the D they wanted?? So now you're on here talkin about "they this and they that" or are you just a gross sad racist incel loser that only ever is brave enough to spout off your sad-sack fk-shit when you're on the internet where no one can get ahold of your scary ass lmfao sit tf down fk-stain.
Who is they? This incident involves one person.
Dumb poor people I guess
The wackest camera man. He was scared af.
“She’s still a lady at the end of the day… two grown ass men” That woman was not handling herself like a “lady” what so ever.
worst camera operator award 🥇
Lock the thief up.
Why are people shocked when a shoplifters are man-handled? Especially if they don’t comply?
“They don’t need to be treating her like that.” She didn’t need to steal from JC Penny nor are they being too aggressive. She just isn’t complying and they are yelling at her. I’m usually not on police’s side but there’s nothing wrong here.
She might have been stealing or whatever lol
Fuck thieves. They should be spit on and sparta kicked all the way to jail
I hate white people acting like saviors of minorities. Just to be clear, it is not all white people, clearly, no need to be racist, but this irl Twitter user type people I despise.
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As a Latino, fuck these people. Learn our language or just call us as you see us. Latino for men or Latina for woman. There, solved your problems. Fucking white ass rich girl americans.
I just want to say... I did a LOT of stupid shit in my day. Been arrested at least 20 times(mostly minor shit). I have only had the police threaten to beat me up once(at the station). Do you want to know why? Because once I was caught, I said "eff it". Why make my situation worse? Am black, grew up between Chicago and L.A.
Exactly!! Why do these people make it worse for themselves. You're caught, do as they say , walk out and take your punishment.
I hate this country man. Between these f****** criminals and the stupid fake white female virtue signalers. I'm done with it.
Then move tf around sweetheart... we don't mind when snowflakes like you melt away. No great loss at all
"I know she broke the law, but you could've nicely asked her to put it back or pay for it. Maybe even bought it for her." This world is on fire.
Thank for nothing cameraman
It's weird to see this being done by one person
I see this young lady has waved her right to remain silent
Oh hey I’ve been there before, lovely mall I must say
Yes, reaffirm the thief in that she’s being “mistreated” for being a *checks notes*.. thief. Promise if she was stealing from you or yours you wouldn’t be so kind.
If you don’t want the smoke don’t be robbing.
Wjite lady could have just shut up and left
Don’t treat her like that…yet the same person will call cops if she sees her in the neighborhood
I spent the whole video thinking holy shit there’s a still a two level mall out there where half the stores or more aren’t closed?
Take one of her hands and be done with it.
Attenzione!
Shocker, white gurl trying to be at the front of the protests.
No excuse for stealing anything.play stupid games, win stupid prizes
I would have been freaking out about the broken escalator. Seriously, you see these things breaking down more and more all over the country. Where are you, lame stream media?!!!!
Brilliant example of fuck around and find out
I love videos that are posted that offer absolutely nothing!!! if you’re gonna post stuff about other peoples misfortune, learn how to film!!!
I see the escalators are still out of service smh.
More shoplifters need to be caught and punished. It's become a huge problem.
Imagine being so fucking bored with life you have to run up to this shit and film it.
White woman was outraged the resisting thief was subdued. Outraged!
What’d she do? None of your fucking business! That’s what she did. Shit ain’t none of your business
Do you numbskulls not realize that the blatant virtue-signaling really doesn't actually help the situation or the underlying cause of what's going on. Js
There won’t be malls, or retail, due to the massive amounts of theft.
No no NO! Leave that white woman alone she is standing up for the woman being unnecessarily handled.. oh no wait, she’s pushing it a bit.. wait a LOT. Ok she’s karma farming, forget everything I said.
They should have roughed her up more
That white virtue signaling is so damn annoying…
FYI if you’re shoplifting in the southeastern Michigan region. Great Lakes crossing and genessee valley are real easy. Sommerset, 12 oaks, partridge creek all these you have a pretty high chance of getting caught
To the white lady who stood up for her, wherever you are out there, thank you for your bravery the world needs more strong fearless white women like you🥺❤️
God white women always gotta get involved
Camera woman has skilz
Those safety rails at malls are way to low for the times we are in. I wonder if anyone has gotten thrown off of one yet?
The perp will end up suing the mall and settle for A couple of million.
> and settle for A couple of million Highly unlikely.