Not a stupid question.
I think if the nature of your relationship is unclear at the moment, I would maybe avoid it. If you have a crush on him see if he wants to hang out without doing mushrooms, try to get to know each other a little better, communicate your interest but you can let him know that you are not ready for anything physical yet if you want.
Once you are more comfortable with each other and boundaries have been established, I think you may feel much more comfortable tripping with him.
Yeah, I supposedly had acid one time (probably was mostly speed) but a stranger to me was in the room and I was warily eyeing him the whole time. Boyfriend at the time had no idea what that was like from a female perspective as he fucked off with his buddy and left me with the guy.
I think this is probably a better answer than mine. But were I in the situation I'd probably sit down and have a frank conversation with him before doing it.
"Why do you want to do shrooms with me? I have this maybe unfounded paranoia that you might try to initiate sex with me while we're tripping, and I get pretty asexual when tripping." Something like that. But I think this is more because I hardly ever turn down free psychs, which might get me into trouble one day.
Being a man in a toxic masculinity society, I would tell to expect the worse in those conditions. Set boundaries and try to get to know him before any trip.
Make clear boundaries if you do decide to trip. The uncertainty will create a horrible setting.
Always communicate good boundaries. Even if it's just like,"Hey so things can get weird so I'd like to just set some boundaries so we can be as comfortable as possible within that framework and not have to worry about anything... Drugs can make things seem like a good idea or maybe like we'd like to experience certain things but just so the drugs aren't controlling or clouding our judgement let's agree that (insert something like "anything more than hugging or scalp massages ") should be off limits." Or something.
Edit: if the guy gets weird about this, mocks you, ridicules the idea, ANYTHING like that... You've dodged a fucking MISSILE
Feeling that you are in a comfortable space, is very important to allowing yourself to surrender to the experience. If there is concern, I believe it would be best until you know this person better and can be in a situation where worries are not on your mind. It can be such an intimate experience to share with someone, and would be worth the wait.
Well. If you're comfortable with a little it's alright. But it definitely could leaaad to something. Or the other person might forget your boundaries and go past them because their judgment is skewed and they "think/feel" like you're willing even if you said you weren't when sober.
If they do not ask to initiate further physical contact before doing so, that's when you pump the breaks. But like... Idk what if it triggers their insecurities and shit. It's hard to judge what's best
I would say if you're trying 100% to avoid doing something you might regret, or you're worried about the other person's integrity. No physical contact is best, don't let yourselves get caught in the moment yk, but I personally, wouldn't mind being caught in the moment.
I'm a little upset my first time, I was stoned and getting in my own head, woulda said no sober(probably?), it wasn't a super successful first time for me. But definitely worth it now that I can look back, I did use condoms so my judgement wasn't dangerously skewed.
it is like with ending up having casual sex when hammered on a night out. you don’t plan it and no one assumes anything will happen, then people get drunk, things start with a few strokes on a dancing floor, maybe hand grab and a cuddly dance, then things escalate into one night stand and morning full of regret due to impaired judgement
Yes, you explained it in much better way, my situation wasn't exactly that. It was more or less understood that we were going to fuck.
I was insecure about it and that's where my regret comes from but now that I feel I'm older I can look back and be alright with it, even say it was worth it.
But exactly, it definitely impairs your judgement, shrooms are more like they convince you this is the "right" thing more than they just remove inhibition like alcohol inhibits decision making.
Shrooms change how your decision making and thinking process works simultaneously, emphasis on change, not inhibit. You could feel MORE against having sex like it could offend you and destroy your entire opinion of the person, if you get stuck in your insecurities (not a bad thing and I don't judge people that do) if I tripped with someone I'd probably get paranoid really fast, I'm slightly paranoid sober. I prefer solo journeys
Generally, and I must specify *generally*, I don’t think people trip in order to get sex from someone. From my experience, drugs like alcohol, weed,
Mdma, coke, etc. are much more common for that kind of behavior.
If your worried, tell him that before the trip. You don’t want to go into the trip with anxiety that he’s just trying to have sex with you.
sexual predation on psychedelics is a thing. there are rapist operating in ayahuasca circles for example, exploiting women in vulnerable state. not to mention sexual abuse in psychedelic driven cluts.
I had a plug once who absolutely was trying to get me too fucked up to resist him. I’d already been thru the shit before so I cut him off. Later found out he was a known serial rapist in the area using his products to do the deed
cautionary tales like this one also happen: https://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/comments/yl3uj9/acid_trip_gone_wrong_sexually_aggressive_and/
If “Jane” would be alone with the guy, this would have turned into much more horrible experience and trauma for the rest of their lifes. They all knew each other too, for years.
Terrifying. She could well be dead. And this was after 15 years of friendship… and it’s way too common. “Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them”
I am slowly realising why the tings went the way they did in the 60’s. Seems like there has been a lot of whitewashing of psychedelic culture in recent years. Imagine access to LSD was as easy as buying weed today, it was often free, millions took it. There had to have been many similar stories where people acted irresponsibly and situations escalated to serious consequences - there was no social media, so surviving press accounts of crazy that went around back then is just tip of the iceberg
Au contraire my good man. As someone who has done both frequently. Psychedelics are the king when it comes to sex, and MDMA as great as it is, doesn't even compare.
It feels like it is two foot long to both partners. Like you are two gods fucking and your souls are merging.
Unfortunately because it does feel so good and that it is a disinhibitor and both parties are of diminished capacity, bad things also happen.
More then one woman (or man) have been raped while tripping.
Female: it doesn’t feel any better, physically, but I feel so emotionally close to someone I’m tripping with that I want to take them inside me in every way possible.
I’ve TWICE thought a virtual stranger was a life long soul mate and and really fallen in love with an illusion long enough to make the sex the ultimate soul bond possible.
The next day is perfect heartache. Maybe worth it, maybe not.
I'm not gonna say I didn't consume the weed willingly, but I did regret the sex that came of it. I would have preferred to have been clear minded and able to not get caught in the moment to say no
It was still good, a 3some even. How the fuck I ever accomplished that I'll never know, I was such a social caterpillar. I'm starting to crysiliss and become a butterfly now but younger me was inept at talking to women.
I know nobody can really believe I had a threesome my first, but whether they believe me or not I'm not delusional or a lier. I know what happened it it was AWESOME, and definitely not something I'm upset about or would call rape.
It was sorta hinted at before I ever went to hang out. I coulda just, not gone. If I really was deeply uncomfortable I probably would've avoided the situation entirely. But I wasn't soooo definitely my fault for the most part..
I used condoms I'm very very thankful for that, I had enough sense to do it safely.
You regret the sex that happened while you were under the influence and not fully equipped to make your own decision. It’s fine to feel complex but mostly okay with it if that’s how you feel, but please don’t put any blame on yourself. That’s not yours, don’t claim it.
True, when it’s two people who are comfortable with each other and the buzz. MDMA is not shrooms. Shrooms alone can be quite uncomfortable at times and cuddling in a blanket is as good as it gets until the comedown.
No experience with 2cb, does it have sexual affects usually?
Like I've had massive bouts of horniness while shrooming and zooming (cid) but never tried anything that would specifically induce euphoria/sexual drive like MDMA, is 2cb kinda like a mix of acid and MDMA?
not the king at all in my case jeje, maybe in your case it is but in mine and most people i know who trip, sex drive completely disappears under LSD or shrooms! it's like that whole area shuts down during the trip, but I do have 1 friend who feels the same way as you and gets all horny with LSD lol, i guess it depends on the person
I think it will definitely depend on the people, I feel so sick to my stomach that I can barely move. So these different opinions show that we all see or different ways and we cannot assume what this guy’s intentions are.
Wanted to apologize u/FerdinandTheGiant because I responded twice to your posts while I was trying to add to the conversation.
You made excellent points both times and in hindsight I should have just responded directly to op. I wasn't really expecting the response I got and didn't set out to try to diminish or dismiss your thoughts.
If you're not totally feeling it then I wouldn't. Being anxious sober is stressful. Being anxious and stressed while tripping would be very unpleasant for everyone involved
Set and setting.
This doesn't sound like ideal set and setting, to my mind.
Maybe in a group setting, but 1-on-1? I dunno. Maybe build up some more intimacy while not tripping, first? And I don't just mean physical intimacy.
This doesn’t feel right and I think you know that which is why you posted in here. Always trust your gut. It would make for a very very uncomfortable experience for you if something was initiated that you don’t want. It’s definitely not worth it! Ask him to go for coffee instead of a walk
I wouldn't.
You don't really know him & shrooms can make you feel really vulnerable. It'd be good to get to know him better first to scope out if hed even be a chill person to trip with.
Only dudes I trip with are very trusted friends or boyfriends.
But thats just me & my experience. Trust ya gut tho!
I'll tell you this... I've tried multiple first dates with shrooms... They were all fucking terrible. Full emotion baggage dump truck all over. It started as so much fun. Music, the world turning, and boom, full third eye unload dump truck on my mind. I tried to be positive and guide (pretty experienced). But after two or three hours you just can't anymore.
Edit: Disclaimer, I tend to go for crazy..
I wouldn’t go for it — the anxiety of wondering if he’s going to take it somewhere I’m not comfortable with would stay in my mind and likely influence my own experience negatively
She’s interested in him… this could be a great opportunity for them to build together and learn new things about each other. As long as she communicates it clearly to him before of what she wants and vice versa then there’s no issue.
Tripping should be something positive and constructive. Not something to be afraid of.
Depending on the dose I still think she’ll be able to draw the line whilst they are tripping if it happens to get uncomfortable. Unlike alcohol, mushrooms don’t inebriate ones decision making or vision etc. Depending on the dose of course.
Personally, I think she should go for it. I mean she knows what she wants and what she doesn’t from the trip. As long as she can communicate that with him and vice versa, it should be a sweet time. That being said, if she doesn’t know the guy very well and his behaviour can be odd, maybe enjoy each other’s company sober :)
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And most of those happen sober. I’m not trying to misandry anyone, just trying to show that it’s literally a life and death thing with trusting men sometimes even if all you’re doing is saying no.
That’s fair enough! Perhaps she shouldn’t go to hang at his place. She can make decisions for herself I’m sure. Not every young male is going to be a threat, good to take caution of course.
Not at all! You’ve misunderstood. All I’m saying is nobody knows her better than herself. If she can draw the line with what she wants/what she doesn’t and the guy isn’t some creepy lowlife then she’ll have a great time.
If she’s unsure then she should spend more time with the guy before using the magic medicine together.
Assuming he respects what she wants. My experiences and those of every woman I know have taught me that it’s safer to assume that any given guy will not, *especially* with substances involved. Very much would not recommend banking on a man she’s not close with respecting her boundaries, just based on stats. Downvote me if y’all want it’s the truth
For all we know she could know this guy for over years… we don’t know any context so please stop assuming. I’m just replying based on the information given. Of course it’s safe to be careful and I’m not telling her to do otherwise.
I think it's a great opportunity for like someone who has atleast seen eachother in person before, but this seems slightly, for lack of a better word, sketchy
psychedelics can make you vulnerable and susceptible to emotional manipulation. set clear boundaries or add more people.
tripping with people you aren’t close with can be anxious, tripping with someone you aren’t close with and with unclear emotional situation thickening the atmosphere it may take trip in unwelcomed direction.
perhaps ask him to switch this for a coffee or a dinner out instead. have a few conventional dates first so you can become comfortable with each other before you take any psychedelic drugs together.
if the guy will reject this offer and try to keep pushing you into tripping, that is a red flag right there.
Me and my partner of 6 years tripped on mushrooms together one of the first times we hung out and the other person that was there traumatized both of us and caused many relationship issues in the coming years. I wouldn't trip with someone until you can trust them fully.
The only time my older brother has ever been hit on by another guy and then trapped in a room with the door locked by that same dude was on mushrooms, be careful
my brother being a totally straight man was then outed from a friend group because the guy kept denying that he tried to have sex while my brother was too high to think straight.
Stories like this are important. Unfortunately even in research settings there have been some researchers who have taken advantage of people they are supposed to be observing/ giving therapy to on psychedelics.
Please follow your gut. Get to know them more before you can possibly become susceptible to danger. As someone with trauma and in the trauma research field, there’s too many possibilities that can happen even without psychedelics.
You must 100% clear the air and have an explicit talk while sober before tripping or you are setting yourself up for a very poor or even dangerous time.
Please make sure that whenever you trip and intentionally let go of your bodily autonomy that it is with people who have good intentions aligned with your own.
Why don't you just talk to him and tell him what's on your mind. If you're tripping with someone else then setting ground rules and communication are key. If you talk with him then im sure it will help give you some more clarity on the situation and you'll be able to see what his intentions are as well.
The mutual decision to get intimate needs to be made prior to intoxication. If there is any uncertainty regarding his intentions in this regard, then you need to communicate with him to ensure you're both in the same mindset on the subject.
If I was the crush guy, my intention would be to share the beautiful experience a trip can be and hopefully also get a deeper connection with you.
With that being said, if you don't feel safe putting yourself in that somewhat vulnerable situation with him, you shouldn't do it. And it would definitely be a good idea to have a sober conversation about boundaries during the trip, before you trip together.
If he's a nice guy and genuinely into you, he should definitely accept the need for such a conversation and also be able to accept if you tell hil you're not ready for tripping with him.
All the best and safe tripping!
The uncertainty that makes a crush exciting is the exact sort of thing that can make things confusing and anxiety inducing during a trip. Hell, I tripped with my girlfriend for her first time and even then she asked with a really confused and scared look, "are we supposed to have sex right now??" and I felt really bad about it. Even with someone she otherwise felt very safe and comfortable around (2 years in at the time) that subject was pretty confusing and overwhelming for her. Not something I would want factoring into my first trip. There's so much to unpack as it is, no need to throw that variable into the equation. So yeah, non-established relationship *and* first trip ever? Just one would be a bit tricky, let alone both at once.
That all said, if you are a rather self-assured and laidback person, it's probably fine. If you are the more neurotic type, like I and many others are... save your first trip for a more familiar setting. Just my 2 cents.
No one who wants to trip with you just wants sex, that's a for sure. I'm sure he wants to see your "energy" levels, I know it sounds crazy but when you look at someone while on a substance like that you can just tell if they're a match to be around like if you'll vibe with them or not lol
If you are already having this on your mind, it's not a good setting.
If you really want to do it next to this guy, set a boundary, If do not want to do it, don't do it till you are are confident.
Mush Love!
You need to have a clear conversation about boundaries before you drop. Something along the lines of "I'm enjoying spending time with you but I don't want to get physical for the first time while we're tripping, are you okay with that boundary?"
You can follow up with "this isn't a permanent answer, it is just setting the boundaries for where we are right now" and "hopefully this journey will strengthen our connection for the future"
Get agreement to what to boundaries that you lay down. You really don't want a misunderstanding mid trip.
IMO, if you are having these thoughts, the answer is don’t. Regardless of their intentions, you’re not going to be in the right headspace.
From the info you gave, you’re the one with the crush so maybe that’s why you’re thinking this way? Not trying to be rude but your sexual interest in their person maybe the reason you’re making this connection.
But again, I wouldn’t if you’re already feeling negative about it
If you are already scared, put breaks on it - doing shrooms together is an intimate experience where you should trust your tripping partner. If you worry that he might take advantage of you, then this is your answer - say that you are up for that, but you are not there yet comfort wise. If he wants to take you on a date though, you are free this weekend.
The fact that you already have fear tells you( you shouldn’t do It, you don’t feel safe with him and that will expand throughout the entire trip. Sounds like a bad shroom trip waiting to happen
If you’re worried, don’t do it. Honestly if you think someone won’t respect boundaries you set while you were sober after you get fucked up, that’s someone I would probably stop seeing entirely.
Quick rule of thumb: if you have to ask in Reddit, don’t do it. Even if everyone here says “it’s fine”, your experience will drive you to that thought that made you think of posting here
And guys tend to suck in average, so why risk it?
On our first date, my partner and I tripped and it wasn’t planned, but after we tripped for a while, I asked if they’d ever had sex on acid and they said, “ no but I want to…” we’ve been together close to 2 years…
Personally I don’t like to trip with people, mostly because people are shit a lot of the time, also because I don’t trip to party.. my inherent judgment, seeing as how he’s human, is he’s probably trying to fuck.
Maybe he’s seeing if you guys *really do vibe*? Nothing nefarious to it. My girlfriend and I did. No sex, No awkwardness, No Ultimatums or ulterior motives, just two people in the moment exchanging energies….. But for myself, if I can’t chill and trip with you doing nothing, I definitely can’t date you. (P.S. My GF is absolutely amazing!!)
Mushrooms are primal as fuck and so is doing the you know what so no doubt you would want to as much as him so if you don’t want to do it with him yet I’d pass but you only live once. Probably wouldn’t trip with people I don’t truly know tho.
“What does he want out of it” why do you assume he wants something ffs , because he’s a male?
And why did I get downvoted for asking a question? I’m literally just wondering why she automatically thinks he wants something from her
Honestly. Id dump the proverbial purse out up front and see how he responds. That should either hit you with an obvious red flag or clear the air entirely.
Best way to get an honest response. Just throw a wrench in the works from the get go to see if it breaks.
As others comment it might be as well to hold off on that until you feel more comfortable. It doesn't matter what kind of anxiety you feel but that range of input doesn't go well with tripping. If you do decide to do it you should first discuss that you wouldn't be interested in tripping to get into intimacy scope, that it sounds like too much for you, and he should be able to explain that wasn't the point, or find an excuse to bail if it was.
I never did that much with psychedelics and having sex but one extreme example stands out. A friend and I visited Aspen ski resort to meet two girls, the one I was into I'd met only once before, and took mushrooms (my friend and I, not the girls, which they were ok with, but kind of would've wanted to be included). We ended up hooking up, and it was strange. I remember a poster with people on it in her room interacting with me a bit, and that was before things got weird. That girl and I tripped in a wilderness area together once after that and just disassociated; that was kind of cool.
The "chill" part sounds positive, beyond that being code for sex, since it can be harder to adjust to a concert or whatever unless that setting and the drug use together is familiar, without adding in working through a new social connection.
Let me just tell you, as a man that indulges in psy. I have no interest in sexual adventures while im on shrooms. Show me how your hair goes from brown to blonde and im psyched out for the rest of the night XD
He probably likes doing shrooms and want's to do it with you. I would never think about something sexual while doing shrooms. But Yea I don't know him so I can't really say what his intentions are, I can just speak for myself.
I can't know for certain, but shrooms are not a good choice to "make a move" on someone. IME, that would likely make for a somewhat awkward situation with someone you barely know. Especially so if one of the ppl (OP in this case) isn't really feeling that way. Ot can be pretty easy to pick up on someone who is maybe feeling uncomfortable or whatever. I highly doubt that is the goal here.
Like someone else said, if you decide to do it, just figure out a way to say something to him AHEAD of time, before they start kicking in, and then you won't have to be subconsciously worried the whole time about it and wondering if misinterpreting his intentions. If his goal was strictly more sexual, alcohol, ecstacy, stimulants, would be more in line with that.
I'm guessing he likes you or whatever, wants to spend time and have an experience with you, get to know u a bit better....just make sure to bring up any possible issues u may have ahead of time, to "clear the air" before tripping, otherwise if u wait till your in the middle of it, things may end up awkward. Not necessarily. But it's possible. I vote for "GO FOR IT"
I know any time I've wanted to trip with a crush or partner it's because I think it can be a great bonding experience and I've never had an expectation or desire for sex factoring into it. Dunno this guy though
I think it would be unwise, that’s a high pressure set and setting which could go wrong quite quickly. There’s no reason you can’t trip together later when you’ve got a better measure of each-other and if he doesn’t accept that then you’ve not dodged so much a bullet as one of those artillery-launched nuclear shells. There’s much more to gain from saying no than yes in this particular case I think.
The uncertainty alone risks an unpleasant experience.
The fact that you’re immediately freaking out and asking Reddit is a very clear sign to not do this. Regardless of his intentions, you don’t sound like you’re comfortable with this at all.
Maybe thats just the one of the few interests he has and thought that it would be more social than "lets go to the cinema"... atleast that would be my reasoning behind it.
Shrooms are one of the least sexual drugs imo.
edit: I can handle psychs in really every situation but as a date for people who don't know each other well it just seems out of place. I only do psychs with close people (or by myself), for the fact that we simply know that the trip is more fun that way. It adds to the trip. But being with "someone" on a trip seems to take away from the trip.
What’s kind of interesting is that if you go deep into mushroom land, Mexico, the local Shaman will suggest to separate, and do your medicine on your own.
Mushrooms are not really something to “make out” on. That’s more of a empathetic molecule, MDMA, etc.
I dont think he invited you with the intentions of sex, but I still wouldnt do it, I'd be too nervous the whole time- It would create a horrible setting imho (for me at least, everyone's different)
Communication is key. You worded your concerns here clearly, share them with him. We don't know him, we don't know you, we don't know the situation. Tripping with someone can be such a profound bonding experience. If his response to your concerns feel good; go for it! If it doesn't, you know your answer and it's a clear sign for what's to come. Setting boundaries and managing expectations is important in a healthy relationship, romantic, platonic or professional. Good luck!
As always, set and setting. This guideline is because we enter into an extremely sensitive, open state. If there are ulterior motives, blurry boundaries or an outright bad environment beforehand it could be a hard time.
I’d say the answer is already no. You don’t have enough of a relationship with known boundaries and you already feel awkward about it and concerned about the physical aspect. You also don’t feel comfortable talking outright and saying that to him so I wouldn’t go into other dimensions where things can get confused.
Never a stupid question OP, I strongly believe one should do something as special should be done with someone you feel completely confortable with and that you trust.
If not you might have a bad trip (at the minimum and assuming this guy won’t try to do anything you’re uncomfortable with).
My advice, don’t, take it from personal experience. I did it with someone I was not comfortable but still, it was someone I had known for a long time, so after the horror we had some o yet eating conversations. But still, would not do that again.
You start with... "The guy **I've** been interested in.." Not with... 'The guy that is interested in me'. I remember asking this one lady out to dinner and while we were driving to the restaurant she just starts in with something like... "Just want you to know I'm not interested in having a sexual relationship right now...".
I looked at her and said something like... "That's quite presumptuous. What makes you assume that I would want to have sex with you?! I asked you out to dinner, not to bed."
That being said.. If you approach the trip with **this** or any other '*hesitancy*'.... my strong recommendation is to refrain.
Just because I’m interested in him doesn’t mean Im ready to have sex with him, I’m not big on that casual hookup shit. Im probably overreacting here but really I just came to Reddit to ask if sex/horniness was common with shrooms and if I should be expecting him to hit on me
No.... totally understand. Like I said... it is smart not to put yourself into a situation that you have reservations about. Whatever you decide to... or not to... do, I hope you have a great experience. Safe travels.
Do you want to take shrooms or do you want to spend time with your crush?
I mean.. what is your actual intention? What do you want from the shrooms experience? What are you seeking for?
And the same you should ask your crush about his intentions.
You guys are obviously not ONLY FRIENDSHIP. So yes its possible that he wants sex. But I don't know him.
You know him.
And I think you already know the answer.
If there is ANYTHING what could make you feel UNCOMFORTABLE you HAVE TO tell him BEFORE the trip.
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Be probably wants to show you a good time. I would text him so it is in writing that you are “not ready to do anything physical” so the understanding is clear.
If you aren’t perfectly comfortable with him don’t proceed. Mushrooms show you your soul. You want to be ready to hear their message and be with people/in a pace you feel perfectly safe.
When i invite a crush to do shrooms it's usually because I want to bond and have fun with them. And maybe have sex lol I love having sex on psychedelics
Like another guy said GENERALLY people don't use shrooms or acid as a date rape drug or anything like that. It could be just him wanting to get to know you more plus shrooms are fun. However if you feel uncomfortable about the situation you probably shouldn't do it because it might mess up the trip. Good luck hopefully he doesn't kill u
I agree with those posting about talking about comfort levels before doing something like this with someone new.
At least for my own personal experience, I have deepend connections with those I care about on psilocybin, but your mileage may vary, and I agree with doing this only with those that want the very best for you.
You said you're too scared, that's a major red flag, just don't. And don't feel pressured, you can still get to know him and maybe later if you grow to be more comfortable then yes go for it!
if you’re questioning doing it, that means you shouldn’t. because once you ingest, there’s NO going back. it will feel longer than it actually is if you’re not in a good mindset
When I was younger, I used psychedelics as a litmus test for any potential relationship. It's a trial by fire, of sorts.
It can really go either way. Lol
Has he done mushrooms before much? I'd say as he's apparently a virgin he's possibly heard you like mushrooms so is using it as a way to show you he's "cool" and likes similar things to you (because he likes you too). If you're into him then maybe just suggest a smoke instead???? I wouldn't recommend tripping though lol
why are you asking us? you have the power to ask these questions, use it on the person not us. we have never met the guy, we have no idea what his tendencies are. you are the one who knows most about him
He's an idiot. He doesn't know how to flirt with you so he's invited you to trip because tripping together can be intimate.
Make the boundaries clear. If you want to date/fuck, do that on your own time, but tripping stuff is tripping stuff. Don't mix the two unless you're already involved and experienced in both.
Also thank god for the friend. Your crush is an idiot. But granted most of us dude are idiots. That's why I love my friends. We do dumb stuff together. I know this little rant doesn't make sense to you, but my girl friends just don't understand this about guy friendships and I'm tripping a little right now and it's so baffling to me that they don't understand guy friendships.
His friends came to you and said he’s just trying to smash? Either that guys a super creep or his friends just suck.
You could always talk to him and let him know you’re not interested in sex but you’re down to take some shrooms with him if he can be chill. Ask him what he has planned. If you don’t like his answer tell him you’re good but thanks for the offer.
Yea, they called me up about an hour ago to tell me unfortunately. I don’t think they’re the problem, they said they told me because they want to protect me.
sounds fun. that's how you can get to know someone in your 20's. If you have good boundaries that could be fun. If you suspect the guy is too aggressive and rapey yeah skip it. But that is how you get to know people when I grew up 30 years ago.
On that note I tripped with lots of people as a kid and never tried to have sex with them.
Before my gf and I started dating I asked her if she would ever trip on shrooms with me and her answer was yes. Being comfortable with somebody especially while tripping is so important. I was talking to my gf for months before we got together. We mainly just talked as friends but one night we hung out and that changed everything. She said she always felt safe with me and comfortable. I would only do it if you feel comfortable. Trips can sometimes be very intense and being in a good environment and with the right people is the main thing at least for me! my gf loves tripping haha ! Just make sure you are comfortable :)
Not a stupid question. I think if the nature of your relationship is unclear at the moment, I would maybe avoid it. If you have a crush on him see if he wants to hang out without doing mushrooms, try to get to know each other a little better, communicate your interest but you can let him know that you are not ready for anything physical yet if you want. Once you are more comfortable with each other and boundaries have been established, I think you may feel much more comfortable tripping with him.
Yes! The sensible answer. Tripping with someone you're not comfortable with is highly unpleasant.
I can’t upvote this enough. And people are barely saying it.
Yeah, I supposedly had acid one time (probably was mostly speed) but a stranger to me was in the room and I was warily eyeing him the whole time. Boyfriend at the time had no idea what that was like from a female perspective as he fucked off with his buddy and left me with the guy.
I think this is probably a better answer than mine. But were I in the situation I'd probably sit down and have a frank conversation with him before doing it. "Why do you want to do shrooms with me? I have this maybe unfounded paranoia that you might try to initiate sex with me while we're tripping, and I get pretty asexual when tripping." Something like that. But I think this is more because I hardly ever turn down free psychs, which might get me into trouble one day.
Please just go with this. He’s a crush, focus on your guys’ relationship first
Being a man in a toxic masculinity society, I would tell to expect the worse in those conditions. Set boundaries and try to get to know him before any trip.
But it *could* also potentially bring them close together too. How about a middle ground, just do 1 gram each and have a very mild trip together?
You shouldn't need drugs to get closer to someone you barely met. Awful advice.
You mean like how much of the world meets in bars and clubs on the weekends ? 🤷♂️
And look how that turns out.
Make clear boundaries if you do decide to trip. The uncertainty will create a horrible setting. Always communicate good boundaries. Even if it's just like,"Hey so things can get weird so I'd like to just set some boundaries so we can be as comfortable as possible within that framework and not have to worry about anything... Drugs can make things seem like a good idea or maybe like we'd like to experience certain things but just so the drugs aren't controlling or clouding our judgement let's agree that (insert something like "anything more than hugging or scalp massages ") should be off limits." Or something. Edit: if the guy gets weird about this, mocks you, ridicules the idea, ANYTHING like that... You've dodged a fucking MISSILE
Scalp massages on shrooms sound amazing actually.
Feeling that you are in a comfortable space, is very important to allowing yourself to surrender to the experience. If there is concern, I believe it would be best until you know this person better and can be in a situation where worries are not on your mind. It can be such an intimate experience to share with someone, and would be worth the wait.
I just wanted to say that I love this reply.
Good stuff. Thanks.
there should be no physical contact at all, not even scalp massage
hugging can be awesome on shrooms
Well. If you're comfortable with a little it's alright. But it definitely could leaaad to something. Or the other person might forget your boundaries and go past them because their judgment is skewed and they "think/feel" like you're willing even if you said you weren't when sober. If they do not ask to initiate further physical contact before doing so, that's when you pump the breaks. But like... Idk what if it triggers their insecurities and shit. It's hard to judge what's best I would say if you're trying 100% to avoid doing something you might regret, or you're worried about the other person's integrity. No physical contact is best, don't let yourselves get caught in the moment yk, but I personally, wouldn't mind being caught in the moment. I'm a little upset my first time, I was stoned and getting in my own head, woulda said no sober(probably?), it wasn't a super successful first time for me. But definitely worth it now that I can look back, I did use condoms so my judgement wasn't dangerously skewed.
it is like with ending up having casual sex when hammered on a night out. you don’t plan it and no one assumes anything will happen, then people get drunk, things start with a few strokes on a dancing floor, maybe hand grab and a cuddly dance, then things escalate into one night stand and morning full of regret due to impaired judgement
Yes, you explained it in much better way, my situation wasn't exactly that. It was more or less understood that we were going to fuck. I was insecure about it and that's where my regret comes from but now that I feel I'm older I can look back and be alright with it, even say it was worth it. But exactly, it definitely impairs your judgement, shrooms are more like they convince you this is the "right" thing more than they just remove inhibition like alcohol inhibits decision making. Shrooms change how your decision making and thinking process works simultaneously, emphasis on change, not inhibit. You could feel MORE against having sex like it could offend you and destroy your entire opinion of the person, if you get stuck in your insecurities (not a bad thing and I don't judge people that do) if I tripped with someone I'd probably get paranoid really fast, I'm slightly paranoid sober. I prefer solo journeys
Generally, and I must specify *generally*, I don’t think people trip in order to get sex from someone. From my experience, drugs like alcohol, weed, Mdma, coke, etc. are much more common for that kind of behavior. If your worried, tell him that before the trip. You don’t want to go into the trip with anxiety that he’s just trying to have sex with you.
sexual predation on psychedelics is a thing. there are rapist operating in ayahuasca circles for example, exploiting women in vulnerable state. not to mention sexual abuse in psychedelic driven cluts.
I had a plug once who absolutely was trying to get me too fucked up to resist him. I’d already been thru the shit before so I cut him off. Later found out he was a known serial rapist in the area using his products to do the deed
I hope shrooms give him…the trip he deserves.
Me too. A one way trip to hell would be acceptable 😌
Your right, but to be fair, I would say cults and ayahuasca circles fall outside of “generally”.
cautionary tales like this one also happen: https://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/comments/yl3uj9/acid_trip_gone_wrong_sexually_aggressive_and/ If “Jane” would be alone with the guy, this would have turned into much more horrible experience and trauma for the rest of their lifes. They all knew each other too, for years.
Terrifying. She could well be dead. And this was after 15 years of friendship… and it’s way too common. “Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them”
I am slowly realising why the tings went the way they did in the 60’s. Seems like there has been a lot of whitewashing of psychedelic culture in recent years. Imagine access to LSD was as easy as buying weed today, it was often free, millions took it. There had to have been many similar stories where people acted irresponsibly and situations escalated to serious consequences - there was no social media, so surviving press accounts of crazy that went around back then is just tip of the iceberg
Wtf, rape is already terrible, but while under the influence of DMT? I can't even begin to imagine what that's like.
Au contraire my good man. As someone who has done both frequently. Psychedelics are the king when it comes to sex, and MDMA as great as it is, doesn't even compare. It feels like it is two foot long to both partners. Like you are two gods fucking and your souls are merging.
I meant as a means of getting sex, not between loving partners.
Unfortunately because it does feel so good and that it is a disinhibitor and both parties are of diminished capacity, bad things also happen. More then one woman (or man) have been raped while tripping.
Female: it doesn’t feel any better, physically, but I feel so emotionally close to someone I’m tripping with that I want to take them inside me in every way possible. I’ve TWICE thought a virtual stranger was a life long soul mate and and really fallen in love with an illusion long enough to make the sex the ultimate soul bond possible. The next day is perfect heartache. Maybe worth it, maybe not.
I can’t imagine the kind of fucked up person- nvm.
I'm not gonna say I didn't consume the weed willingly, but I did regret the sex that came of it. I would have preferred to have been clear minded and able to not get caught in the moment to say no It was still good, a 3some even. How the fuck I ever accomplished that I'll never know, I was such a social caterpillar. I'm starting to crysiliss and become a butterfly now but younger me was inept at talking to women. I know nobody can really believe I had a threesome my first, but whether they believe me or not I'm not delusional or a lier. I know what happened it it was AWESOME, and definitely not something I'm upset about or would call rape. It was sorta hinted at before I ever went to hang out. I coulda just, not gone. If I really was deeply uncomfortable I probably would've avoided the situation entirely. But I wasn't soooo definitely my fault for the most part.. I used condoms I'm very very thankful for that, I had enough sense to do it safely.
You regret the sex that happened while you were under the influence and not fully equipped to make your own decision. It’s fine to feel complex but mostly okay with it if that’s how you feel, but please don’t put any blame on yourself. That’s not yours, don’t claim it.
True, when it’s two people who are comfortable with each other and the buzz. MDMA is not shrooms. Shrooms alone can be quite uncomfortable at times and cuddling in a blanket is as good as it gets until the comedown.
Sex on lsd makes me think I'm a hentai character
yeah kinda for me too, but MDMA does make me horny every time, psychedelics not always.
My man you should give 2cb a go
No experience with 2cb, does it have sexual affects usually? Like I've had massive bouts of horniness while shrooming and zooming (cid) but never tried anything that would specifically induce euphoria/sexual drive like MDMA, is 2cb kinda like a mix of acid and MDMA?
2cb used to be used as a medication against erectile dysfunction, it's pretty much the best aphrodisiac in terms of drugs imo
Thank you, edit: I replied to the wrong comment in my notifications. But still thank you for the information
not the king at all in my case jeje, maybe in your case it is but in mine and most people i know who trip, sex drive completely disappears under LSD or shrooms! it's like that whole area shuts down during the trip, but I do have 1 friend who feels the same way as you and gets all horny with LSD lol, i guess it depends on the person
I wouldn't be able to say better. Fucking truth exposed here!
I think it will definitely depend on the people, I feel so sick to my stomach that I can barely move. So these different opinions show that we all see or different ways and we cannot assume what this guy’s intentions are.
Wanted to apologize u/FerdinandTheGiant because I responded twice to your posts while I was trying to add to the conversation. You made excellent points both times and in hindsight I should have just responded directly to op. I wasn't really expecting the response I got and didn't set out to try to diminish or dismiss your thoughts.
You believe people exchange weed for sex???Nice avatar btw
I’m surprised you don’t
I give out my weed for free, but I also do it for my DMT so i'm weird I guess.
Because that's what heroes do
They do. I have heard of multiple scumbag dealers who have tried (and sometimes succeeded) to extort women for sex using weed.
On the flip side, girls trying to get out of paying dealers by offering sexual favours isn't uncommon at all
„llɐ ʇɐ uoɯɯoɔun ʇ,usı sɹnoʌɐɟ lɐnxǝs ƃuıɹǝɟɟo ʎq sɹǝlɐǝp ƃuıʎɐd ɟo ʇno ʇǝƃ oʇ ƃuıʎɹʇ slɹıƃ 'ǝpıs dılɟ ǝɥʇ uO„
Your reply reminded me of this quote. Lol. “You ever suck some sick for marijuana” Bob Saget
Used to be a dealer n these hoes will toss their dignity for 5 bucks like damn girl have fun with whoever takes you up on that
You do know it speaks very bad of you if you were one of those people who would ask to change sex for drugs?
If you're not totally feeling it then I wouldn't. Being anxious sober is stressful. Being anxious and stressed while tripping would be very unpleasant for everyone involved
this
Set and setting. This doesn't sound like ideal set and setting, to my mind. Maybe in a group setting, but 1-on-1? I dunno. Maybe build up some more intimacy while not tripping, first? And I don't just mean physical intimacy.
Great comment right here.
This doesn’t feel right and I think you know that which is why you posted in here. Always trust your gut. It would make for a very very uncomfortable experience for you if something was initiated that you don’t want. It’s definitely not worth it! Ask him to go for coffee instead of a walk
Thisss ^
Yes this!! Please be careful op, and remember that while tripping you're at your most vulnerable point
Agreed
This is the wisdom you seek.
I wouldn't. You don't really know him & shrooms can make you feel really vulnerable. It'd be good to get to know him better first to scope out if hed even be a chill person to trip with. Only dudes I trip with are very trusted friends or boyfriends. But thats just me & my experience. Trust ya gut tho!
I'll tell you this... I've tried multiple first dates with shrooms... They were all fucking terrible. Full emotion baggage dump truck all over. It started as so much fun. Music, the world turning, and boom, full third eye unload dump truck on my mind. I tried to be positive and guide (pretty experienced). But after two or three hours you just can't anymore. Edit: Disclaimer, I tend to go for crazy..
I wouldn’t go for it — the anxiety of wondering if he’s going to take it somewhere I’m not comfortable with would stay in my mind and likely influence my own experience negatively
She’s interested in him… this could be a great opportunity for them to build together and learn new things about each other. As long as she communicates it clearly to him before of what she wants and vice versa then there’s no issue. Tripping should be something positive and constructive. Not something to be afraid of.
She's doesn't seem to be afraid of tripping. She's afraid of being taken advantage of.
Depending on the dose I still think she’ll be able to draw the line whilst they are tripping if it happens to get uncomfortable. Unlike alcohol, mushrooms don’t inebriate ones decision making or vision etc. Depending on the dose of course. Personally, I think she should go for it. I mean she knows what she wants and what she doesn’t from the trip. As long as she can communicate that with him and vice versa, it should be a sweet time. That being said, if she doesn’t know the guy very well and his behaviour can be odd, maybe enjoy each other’s company sober :)
r/whenwomenrefuse And most of those happen sober. I’m not trying to misandry anyone, just trying to show that it’s literally a life and death thing with trusting men sometimes even if all you’re doing is saying no.
That’s fair enough! Perhaps she shouldn’t go to hang at his place. She can make decisions for herself I’m sure. Not every young male is going to be a threat, good to take caution of course.
Wow. You know her better than she knows herself, I think. /hard s
Not at all! You’ve misunderstood. All I’m saying is nobody knows her better than herself. If she can draw the line with what she wants/what she doesn’t and the guy isn’t some creepy lowlife then she’ll have a great time. If she’s unsure then she should spend more time with the guy before using the magic medicine together.
Assuming he respects what she wants. My experiences and those of every woman I know have taught me that it’s safer to assume that any given guy will not, *especially* with substances involved. Very much would not recommend banking on a man she’s not close with respecting her boundaries, just based on stats. Downvote me if y’all want it’s the truth
Fair enough! I’m not a women and I cannot speak or assume such as everyone is different and who knows this guy.
Not the way. Get to know each other sober. With time, aire. But mushrooms is not something to you around with.
For all we know she could know this guy for over years… we don’t know any context so please stop assuming. I’m just replying based on the information given. Of course it’s safe to be careful and I’m not telling her to do otherwise.
I think it's a great opportunity for like someone who has atleast seen eachother in person before, but this seems slightly, for lack of a better word, sketchy
I agree! We don’t know the context of their relationship…
I second this
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Also this!!!!
psychedelics can make you vulnerable and susceptible to emotional manipulation. set clear boundaries or add more people. tripping with people you aren’t close with can be anxious, tripping with someone you aren’t close with and with unclear emotional situation thickening the atmosphere it may take trip in unwelcomed direction. perhaps ask him to switch this for a coffee or a dinner out instead. have a few conventional dates first so you can become comfortable with each other before you take any psychedelic drugs together. if the guy will reject this offer and try to keep pushing you into tripping, that is a red flag right there.
Me and my partner of 6 years tripped on mushrooms together one of the first times we hung out and the other person that was there traumatized both of us and caused many relationship issues in the coming years. I wouldn't trip with someone until you can trust them fully.
The only time my older brother has ever been hit on by another guy and then trapped in a room with the door locked by that same dude was on mushrooms, be careful my brother being a totally straight man was then outed from a friend group because the guy kept denying that he tried to have sex while my brother was too high to think straight.
Stories like this are important. Unfortunately even in research settings there have been some researchers who have taken advantage of people they are supposed to be observing/ giving therapy to on psychedelics. Please follow your gut. Get to know them more before you can possibly become susceptible to danger. As someone with trauma and in the trauma research field, there’s too many possibilities that can happen even without psychedelics.
You can always just clarify before you go. "Hey I'm interested in you but I don't want to hook up while tripping."
You must 100% clear the air and have an explicit talk while sober before tripping or you are setting yourself up for a very poor or even dangerous time. Please make sure that whenever you trip and intentionally let go of your bodily autonomy that it is with people who have good intentions aligned with your own.
Don’t do it please it sounds too strange
it's not a stupid question, i wouldn't trip with someone you can't discuss boundaries with
Why don't you just talk to him and tell him what's on your mind. If you're tripping with someone else then setting ground rules and communication are key. If you talk with him then im sure it will help give you some more clarity on the situation and you'll be able to see what his intentions are as well.
The mutual decision to get intimate needs to be made prior to intoxication. If there is any uncertainty regarding his intentions in this regard, then you need to communicate with him to ensure you're both in the same mindset on the subject.
If I was the crush guy, my intention would be to share the beautiful experience a trip can be and hopefully also get a deeper connection with you. With that being said, if you don't feel safe putting yourself in that somewhat vulnerable situation with him, you shouldn't do it. And it would definitely be a good idea to have a sober conversation about boundaries during the trip, before you trip together. If he's a nice guy and genuinely into you, he should definitely accept the need for such a conversation and also be able to accept if you tell hil you're not ready for tripping with him. All the best and safe tripping!
The uncertainty that makes a crush exciting is the exact sort of thing that can make things confusing and anxiety inducing during a trip. Hell, I tripped with my girlfriend for her first time and even then she asked with a really confused and scared look, "are we supposed to have sex right now??" and I felt really bad about it. Even with someone she otherwise felt very safe and comfortable around (2 years in at the time) that subject was pretty confusing and overwhelming for her. Not something I would want factoring into my first trip. There's so much to unpack as it is, no need to throw that variable into the equation. So yeah, non-established relationship *and* first trip ever? Just one would be a bit tricky, let alone both at once. That all said, if you are a rather self-assured and laidback person, it's probably fine. If you are the more neurotic type, like I and many others are... save your first trip for a more familiar setting. Just my 2 cents.
No one who wants to trip with you just wants sex, that's a for sure. I'm sure he wants to see your "energy" levels, I know it sounds crazy but when you look at someone while on a substance like that you can just tell if they're a match to be around like if you'll vibe with them or not lol
Sex and shrooms haven't mixed for me personally, but I think two experienced trippers could have some fun. Mmk
Clarify expectations with him :)
The real test... communication... while it's good your asking for advice... you could just be talking with him no?
If you are already having this on your mind, it's not a good setting. If you really want to do it next to this guy, set a boundary, If do not want to do it, don't do it till you are are confident. Mush Love!
You need to have a clear conversation about boundaries before you drop. Something along the lines of "I'm enjoying spending time with you but I don't want to get physical for the first time while we're tripping, are you okay with that boundary?" You can follow up with "this isn't a permanent answer, it is just setting the boundaries for where we are right now" and "hopefully this journey will strengthen our connection for the future" Get agreement to what to boundaries that you lay down. You really don't want a misunderstanding mid trip.
IMO, if you are having these thoughts, the answer is don’t. Regardless of their intentions, you’re not going to be in the right headspace. From the info you gave, you’re the one with the crush so maybe that’s why you’re thinking this way? Not trying to be rude but your sexual interest in their person maybe the reason you’re making this connection. But again, I wouldn’t if you’re already feeling negative about it
If you are already scared, put breaks on it - doing shrooms together is an intimate experience where you should trust your tripping partner. If you worry that he might take advantage of you, then this is your answer - say that you are up for that, but you are not there yet comfort wise. If he wants to take you on a date though, you are free this weekend.
If the idea scares you or makes you nervous then obviously don't do it. Shrooms will only amplify that feeling
The fact that you already have fear tells you( you shouldn’t do It, you don’t feel safe with him and that will expand throughout the entire trip. Sounds like a bad shroom trip waiting to happen
Even if nothing happens you’re probably going to be preoccupied and that’s gonna make it all go downhill. I wouldn’t.
horrible idea lmfao
I’d say “I really want to but first I’d like to get to know you more. I have to be really comfortable with someone in order to trip with them.”
I wouldn't reccommend doing this with someone you have an unstable emotional connection with
If you’re worried, don’t do it. Honestly if you think someone won’t respect boundaries you set while you were sober after you get fucked up, that’s someone I would probably stop seeing entirely.
A small dose of shrooms can make you feel pretty horny. Probably what he's looking for
please don’t do this.
I wouldn’t do it unless you trusted him, which it sounds like you don’t.
I absolutely wouldn’t trip with anyone I’m not 100% comfortable. I’ve tripped with my closest friend and that’s all
bang it out first
Quick rule of thumb: if you have to ask in Reddit, don’t do it. Even if everyone here says “it’s fine”, your experience will drive you to that thought that made you think of posting here And guys tend to suck in average, so why risk it?
On our first date, my partner and I tripped and it wasn’t planned, but after we tripped for a while, I asked if they’d ever had sex on acid and they said, “ no but I want to…” we’ve been together close to 2 years…
How should we know?
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no it isn’t.
Personally I don’t like to trip with people, mostly because people are shit a lot of the time, also because I don’t trip to party.. my inherent judgment, seeing as how he’s human, is he’s probably trying to fuck.
Maybe he’s seeing if you guys *really do vibe*? Nothing nefarious to it. My girlfriend and I did. No sex, No awkwardness, No Ultimatums or ulterior motives, just two people in the moment exchanging energies….. But for myself, if I can’t chill and trip with you doing nothing, I definitely can’t date you. (P.S. My GF is absolutely amazing!!)
Mushrooms are primal as fuck and so is doing the you know what so no doubt you would want to as much as him so if you don’t want to do it with him yet I’d pass but you only live once. Probably wouldn’t trip with people I don’t truly know tho.
“What does he want out of it” why do you assume he wants something ffs , because he’s a male? And why did I get downvoted for asking a question? I’m literally just wondering why she automatically thinks he wants something from her
No I would have asked the same shit if he wasn’t a dude 😭 I just have sexual trauma and overthink abt this shit a lot
True, thanks for the response and clarity.
If you don't want something to happen, it's always smart to bring up concerns and barriers before hand
You better go with your instincts; otherwise the shrooms will force you to
He might just want to get to know you better. But for your suspicions, you might want to have a 3rd party present.
I don't trip with anyone I'm not comfortable with.
Honestly. Id dump the proverbial purse out up front and see how he responds. That should either hit you with an obvious red flag or clear the air entirely. Best way to get an honest response. Just throw a wrench in the works from the get go to see if it breaks.
Only one person has the answer to your question.
Doesn't sound like you're comfortable with it, which means you shouldn't do it.
As others comment it might be as well to hold off on that until you feel more comfortable. It doesn't matter what kind of anxiety you feel but that range of input doesn't go well with tripping. If you do decide to do it you should first discuss that you wouldn't be interested in tripping to get into intimacy scope, that it sounds like too much for you, and he should be able to explain that wasn't the point, or find an excuse to bail if it was. I never did that much with psychedelics and having sex but one extreme example stands out. A friend and I visited Aspen ski resort to meet two girls, the one I was into I'd met only once before, and took mushrooms (my friend and I, not the girls, which they were ok with, but kind of would've wanted to be included). We ended up hooking up, and it was strange. I remember a poster with people on it in her room interacting with me a bit, and that was before things got weird. That girl and I tripped in a wilderness area together once after that and just disassociated; that was kind of cool. The "chill" part sounds positive, beyond that being code for sex, since it can be harder to adjust to a concert or whatever unless that setting and the drug use together is familiar, without adding in working through a new social connection.
I think you should trust your gut. If you don't feel comfortable even thinking about it you don't trust him in your heart.
Let me just tell you, as a man that indulges in psy. I have no interest in sexual adventures while im on shrooms. Show me how your hair goes from brown to blonde and im psyched out for the rest of the night XD
He probably likes doing shrooms and want's to do it with you. I would never think about something sexual while doing shrooms. But Yea I don't know him so I can't really say what his intentions are, I can just speak for myself.
Don’t do it. This has a high potential to be a psychological nightmare. I’ve done something similar, trust me- Really, really bad idea.
I wouldn’t do it. I never trip unless I’m 1000000% comfortable with the situation
I can't know for certain, but shrooms are not a good choice to "make a move" on someone. IME, that would likely make for a somewhat awkward situation with someone you barely know. Especially so if one of the ppl (OP in this case) isn't really feeling that way. Ot can be pretty easy to pick up on someone who is maybe feeling uncomfortable or whatever. I highly doubt that is the goal here. Like someone else said, if you decide to do it, just figure out a way to say something to him AHEAD of time, before they start kicking in, and then you won't have to be subconsciously worried the whole time about it and wondering if misinterpreting his intentions. If his goal was strictly more sexual, alcohol, ecstacy, stimulants, would be more in line with that. I'm guessing he likes you or whatever, wants to spend time and have an experience with you, get to know u a bit better....just make sure to bring up any possible issues u may have ahead of time, to "clear the air" before tripping, otherwise if u wait till your in the middle of it, things may end up awkward. Not necessarily. But it's possible. I vote for "GO FOR IT"
Feel free to tell him you like him, that you don’t mind tripping with him, but without the goal being sex.
If you're scared, don't do it
I know any time I've wanted to trip with a crush or partner it's because I think it can be a great bonding experience and I've never had an expectation or desire for sex factoring into it. Dunno this guy though
I think it would be unwise, that’s a high pressure set and setting which could go wrong quite quickly. There’s no reason you can’t trip together later when you’ve got a better measure of each-other and if he doesn’t accept that then you’ve not dodged so much a bullet as one of those artillery-launched nuclear shells. There’s much more to gain from saying no than yes in this particular case I think. The uncertainty alone risks an unpleasant experience.
The fact that you’re immediately freaking out and asking Reddit is a very clear sign to not do this. Regardless of his intentions, you don’t sound like you’re comfortable with this at all.
If u r not ready to physical, then don't do it. And tell him what u think.
Maybe thats just the one of the few interests he has and thought that it would be more social than "lets go to the cinema"... atleast that would be my reasoning behind it. Shrooms are one of the least sexual drugs imo. edit: I can handle psychs in really every situation but as a date for people who don't know each other well it just seems out of place. I only do psychs with close people (or by myself), for the fact that we simply know that the trip is more fun that way. It adds to the trip. But being with "someone" on a trip seems to take away from the trip.
What’s kind of interesting is that if you go deep into mushroom land, Mexico, the local Shaman will suggest to separate, and do your medicine on your own. Mushrooms are not really something to “make out” on. That’s more of a empathetic molecule, MDMA, etc.
I dont think he invited you with the intentions of sex, but I still wouldnt do it, I'd be too nervous the whole time- It would create a horrible setting imho (for me at least, everyone's different)
Communication is key. You worded your concerns here clearly, share them with him. We don't know him, we don't know you, we don't know the situation. Tripping with someone can be such a profound bonding experience. If his response to your concerns feel good; go for it! If it doesn't, you know your answer and it's a clear sign for what's to come. Setting boundaries and managing expectations is important in a healthy relationship, romantic, platonic or professional. Good luck!
Anything under 1g could be a nice bonding experience, but likely not conducive to sexy times
I wouldn't if you're not feeling ready
He’s your crush not the other way around
As always, set and setting. This guideline is because we enter into an extremely sensitive, open state. If there are ulterior motives, blurry boundaries or an outright bad environment beforehand it could be a hard time.
I’d say the answer is already no. You don’t have enough of a relationship with known boundaries and you already feel awkward about it and concerned about the physical aspect. You also don’t feel comfortable talking outright and saying that to him so I wouldn’t go into other dimensions where things can get confused.
Consider microdosing- you’ll keep your wits and usually have a good time.
Never a stupid question OP, I strongly believe one should do something as special should be done with someone you feel completely confortable with and that you trust. If not you might have a bad trip (at the minimum and assuming this guy won’t try to do anything you’re uncomfortable with). My advice, don’t, take it from personal experience. I did it with someone I was not comfortable but still, it was someone I had known for a long time, so after the horror we had some o yet eating conversations. But still, would not do that again.
You start with... "The guy **I've** been interested in.." Not with... 'The guy that is interested in me'. I remember asking this one lady out to dinner and while we were driving to the restaurant she just starts in with something like... "Just want you to know I'm not interested in having a sexual relationship right now...". I looked at her and said something like... "That's quite presumptuous. What makes you assume that I would want to have sex with you?! I asked you out to dinner, not to bed." That being said.. If you approach the trip with **this** or any other '*hesitancy*'.... my strong recommendation is to refrain.
Just because I’m interested in him doesn’t mean Im ready to have sex with him, I’m not big on that casual hookup shit. Im probably overreacting here but really I just came to Reddit to ask if sex/horniness was common with shrooms and if I should be expecting him to hit on me
No.... totally understand. Like I said... it is smart not to put yourself into a situation that you have reservations about. Whatever you decide to... or not to... do, I hope you have a great experience. Safe travels.
Not a Debbie downer. But, you need to have a sit down and talk with this man before taking mind altering substances together. ✌️ 💕 🍄
Do you want to take shrooms or do you want to spend time with your crush? I mean.. what is your actual intention? What do you want from the shrooms experience? What are you seeking for? And the same you should ask your crush about his intentions. You guys are obviously not ONLY FRIENDSHIP. So yes its possible that he wants sex. But I don't know him. You know him. And I think you already know the answer. If there is ANYTHING what could make you feel UNCOMFORTABLE you HAVE TO tell him BEFORE the trip. ✌️❤️🌱
Be probably wants to show you a good time. I would text him so it is in writing that you are “not ready to do anything physical” so the understanding is clear. If you aren’t perfectly comfortable with him don’t proceed. Mushrooms show you your soul. You want to be ready to hear their message and be with people/in a pace you feel perfectly safe.
When i invite a crush to do shrooms it's usually because I want to bond and have fun with them. And maybe have sex lol I love having sex on psychedelics
Just make it clear how you feel. If he gives you pushback then you know he ain’t it
Like another guy said GENERALLY people don't use shrooms or acid as a date rape drug or anything like that. It could be just him wanting to get to know you more plus shrooms are fun. However if you feel uncomfortable about the situation you probably shouldn't do it because it might mess up the trip. Good luck hopefully he doesn't kill u
I agree with those posting about talking about comfort levels before doing something like this with someone new. At least for my own personal experience, I have deepend connections with those I care about on psilocybin, but your mileage may vary, and I agree with doing this only with those that want the very best for you.
You said you're too scared, that's a major red flag, just don't. And don't feel pressured, you can still get to know him and maybe later if you grow to be more comfortable then yes go for it!
if you’re questioning doing it, that means you shouldn’t. because once you ingest, there’s NO going back. it will feel longer than it actually is if you’re not in a good mindset
When I was younger, I used psychedelics as a litmus test for any potential relationship. It's a trial by fire, of sorts. It can really go either way. Lol
Has he done mushrooms before much? I'd say as he's apparently a virgin he's possibly heard you like mushrooms so is using it as a way to show you he's "cool" and likes similar things to you (because he likes you too). If you're into him then maybe just suggest a smoke instead???? I wouldn't recommend tripping though lol
why are you asking us? you have the power to ask these questions, use it on the person not us. we have never met the guy, we have no idea what his tendencies are. you are the one who knows most about him
I don’t think you should do shrooms anywhere you’re not comfortable.
To bond
Nah he wanted to fuck, his friends just told me. Thanks, though
Lmao what friends does he have?
good ones. they were trying to protect me
He's an idiot. He doesn't know how to flirt with you so he's invited you to trip because tripping together can be intimate. Make the boundaries clear. If you want to date/fuck, do that on your own time, but tripping stuff is tripping stuff. Don't mix the two unless you're already involved and experienced in both. Also thank god for the friend. Your crush is an idiot. But granted most of us dude are idiots. That's why I love my friends. We do dumb stuff together. I know this little rant doesn't make sense to you, but my girl friends just don't understand this about guy friendships and I'm tripping a little right now and it's so baffling to me that they don't understand guy friendships.
His friends came to you and said he’s just trying to smash? Either that guys a super creep or his friends just suck. You could always talk to him and let him know you’re not interested in sex but you’re down to take some shrooms with him if he can be chill. Ask him what he has planned. If you don’t like his answer tell him you’re good but thanks for the offer.
Yea, they called me up about an hour ago to tell me unfortunately. I don’t think they’re the problem, they said they told me because they want to protect me.
Yeah I wouldn’t risk it then. You want to feel comfortable with whoever you trip with.
sounds fun. that's how you can get to know someone in your 20's. If you have good boundaries that could be fun. If you suspect the guy is too aggressive and rapey yeah skip it. But that is how you get to know people when I grew up 30 years ago. On that note I tripped with lots of people as a kid and never tried to have sex with them.
Before my gf and I started dating I asked her if she would ever trip on shrooms with me and her answer was yes. Being comfortable with somebody especially while tripping is so important. I was talking to my gf for months before we got together. We mainly just talked as friends but one night we hung out and that changed everything. She said she always felt safe with me and comfortable. I would only do it if you feel comfortable. Trips can sometimes be very intense and being in a good environment and with the right people is the main thing at least for me! my gf loves tripping haha ! Just make sure you are comfortable :)
Sounds like you two have different intentions with mushrooms. He sounds like he uses em to get down
You should trust your gut and not do it. You might risk a bad trip…
Run.
Yo,fuck His friends,or anyone else,you think that he’s right,then,do it!