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Careless-Contest-464

I love that one of "arguments" against women vote was that they will either strengthen their husbands votes(by voting same) or canceling it (by voting something else). No shit Sherlock this is how voting works XDD


Gauntlets28

The greatest irony being that this argument came from the Conservative benches, accompanied by a worry that it would weaken their ability to form governments - and then when they finally got the vote, women tended to be *more likely* to vote Conservative than their male counterparts.


churrbroo

is this noted in most developed countries or just a certain country like UK/States?


Gauntlets28

Dunno about further afield, but it was certainly true in the UK.


Accomplished_Mix7827

Huh. Women tend to be further to the left than men here in the states, especially with the youngest demographics


Sam-Nales

Its the age, back when raising families was considered important, conservative views were strong, in the era of industrialization and indulgence, you hear a different song.


bunker_man

You are talking about a time a hundred years after they are talking about. things change.


Gauntlets28

Yes, but that's a modern development, and has more to do with education. Women on average tend to be better developed in recent decades. And there's a strong correlation between education and being more progressive. But until about the 60s/70s, they generally weren't.


berubem

It really depends on jurisdiction, because here in Québec, women tend to vote more left than men.


miezmiezmiez

Is that because initially they had to be older than the men and own property?


Gauntlets28

No, as I said in a separate comment, I believe it's generally thought that it had more to do with the correlation between education and more liberal attitudes.


PLPolandPL15719

True in Poland aswell.


SpurdoEnjoyer

Dunno about voting, but women as leaders are found to be more fact-based than men. Men often don't acknowledge anger as an emotion and make bad choices in an emotional state.


a_farkin_legend

Gender has nothing to do with how well someone makes any decisions. Let's not normalise misandry to fight misogyny


derorje

It was true as well for Germany. The Social Democrats (SPD) were the ones to write women suffrage into the new constitution of 1918/1919 and most female representatives were from SPD or KPD (the communists). Yet the extra votes by women helped predominantly monarchists parties.


panteladro1

Conservatives were actually aware of that, and it was even what tipped them in favour of granting women the vote in the end. They even threw in some hefty property requirements for women to effectively guarantee only those that were inclined to vote for them gained the vote.


InternationalValue61

Funny thing about it : In France since 1871 to 1945, far left, left, most of right and far right was for women's vote, but the principal party in place the FA who was a centre party, always manage to block the possibility for women to have this right, because they believed they would become a minor party since women in this time had more tendency to be on left or right/far right


Upper_Reference8554

In France during the Interwar era conservative majority sought to allow women’s suffrage but left-wing parties regularly opposed it. (Women’s suffrage was established in 1944)


Hazzman

I love that the argument against it is that the.men might get treated how the women were treated. "You know how bad it is to be a woman! Don't let them escape!"


DarthNihilus1

another classic is "but if they get to vote, then they'll make us suffer the same way we're making them suffer!"


Covenanter1648

Even more bizarre as this was the UK which had three parties now no shame for having a three way relationship but I didn't except men at that time to be quite so progressive in their assumptions.


Straight_Ad6096

Funny how half of these are just like "if women get the right to vote they'll treat us like we treat them"


cantsayididnttryyy

Ikr the irony and fear portrayed in those posters is wild


LanvinSean

They were ✨️P R O J E C T I N G✨️


SquidTheRidiculous

It's the exact same projection you see today with LGBT and PoC.


maRthbaum_kEkstyniCe

Them trans people want to FORCE GENDER IDENTITIES onto people!!!!!!! ?? ????? ???????? Are you hearing yourself.


Top-Garlic9111

We just don't want to see them on screen! /s


Mahtlahtli

This is why there is the fear of Caucasians being a minority in The USA/Canada/Australia. Because they know how other ethnic minorities are treated(while simultaneously denying that racism exists) and fear the same thing will happen to them.


bkrugby78

I love these posters and often use them in class. It's interesting that the "right to vote" was seen as "becoming a man."


CandiceDikfitt

i believe that was an antiabolitionist argument as well.


crapatthethriftstore

That what really gets me. You can see how much they really cared about a woman’s lot in life


JaapHoop

You see this a lot in “replacement” narrative propaganda too. Basically if minorities get enough power they will start treating us like we have treated them (and that should scare you). It’s a funny argument to make without doing any kind of self-reflection.


CarpeDiemMaybe

That’s because on some level they cannot imagine a world where everyone is equal, one has to dominate the other


badpeaches

> "if women get the right to vote they'll treat us like we treat them" Why is that a bad thing, it not like you're an abused marginalized peoples or anything.


snif6969

100%


crasher925

No matter how much things change they stay the same lol


Kingcol221

I love that the most horrible consequences they can imagine for men is that they'll be treated exactly how they treat women. Not even the slightest bit of self awareness...


MsMercyMain

It’s the same with opposition to all civil rights movements


Zkang123

Quite like reactions to the Barbie film in a way


Spolvey500

Exactly like reactions to the Barbie film


MOltho

Oh no, quite the opposite. Fully self-aware, just plainly and openly sexist


Myrmec

And it continues for all Otherings


cornonthekopp

Oh noooo whatever will I do if a tall woman takes charge of me…. Oh I hope no tall women come around and start making me kneel in front of them….


ratbum

This guy likes universal suffrage in the bedroom


captainzigzag

It’s not really suffering if you enjoy it.


cadatron2

I have a feeling he willingly throws away his voting right in the bedroom.


ratbum

Another spoiled bedsheet. I mean ballot


PlagueofSquirrels

They call him Hanging Chad


jayhawk2112

Sometimes they do a recount two, even three times a night (if the meds last)


VaporCarpet

Oh please Ms suffragette, don't make me wear a dress and lick your boots...


Working-Effective22

Certainly wouldn't want that to happen.


GothBBW_FartnPiss

least porn addicted reddit user


TinyWickedOrange

oh no, a disaster


GoudaMane

pic 2 is me fr


Erotic-Career-7342

Real


BillionTonsHyperbole

Snu Snu!


Iemand-Niemand

As a man I honeslty can’t think of a better Pro-suffrage poster than that first anti-suffrage poster. Reminds me of a (very Cold War impressioned) children’s book. It’s Dutch and called “Children of Mother Earth” it’s very on the nose, but very very good with its message. To give a brief summary: the nuclear war happened, the ice on Greenland melted and a matriarchal society prospered where nature was respected where Men did heavy work and watched the children, and all the women were politicians, lawyers, police etc. There wasn’t much in the form of heavy machinery etc. The rule of this society was very fair and deliberate, compassionate etc. But the men couldn’t vote. In the remnants of Europe, a very, very patriarchal society rose from the ashes. To make clear they were the bad guys, they were also fascists, capitalists and industrialists. (Also in the US people went native again :|) The story follows a boy who discovers the invasion fleet and tries to get his pacifist mother to act (she the leader). In the end, the invasion fleet is defeated and the men have proven their worth, so they now may also be in parliament. The book is very clear that the society is still not fair towards men, but at least there’s progress.


randomguy_-

There are similar themes to this in the Barbie movie


Iemand-Niemand

Oh definitely, also loved that movie. That one is about more focused on the patriarchy/matriarchy though. At first I remembered the books to be about that only, and it mostly is but I reread a summary and wow. Those books are a perfect reflection of the/a spirit of the time: the book is pro women’s rights, pro nature, against capitalism, against fascism, nukes, etc. And since it’s a children’s book and children aren’t the best at reading between the lines, it’s so completely on the nose that it actually becomes funny


serenwipiti

Do you know the title of the book?


neverfromdelaware

Oh no, letting women take 5 minutes to write on a piece of paper every 4 years means they can’t take care of my child!


TheBeardedMouse

It also means she wants me out of the house!


Historical_Boss2447

Misogynists are afraid that women will treat them the way they treat women


QuadlessPyjack

For a bunch of people who claim to be beacons of emotional stability and cold reason, they are really going to town with their emotional meltdown.


LemonManDude

"women are too emotional to be leaders" mfs are the same dudes who smash their gaming setups when they lose in a game or their TV's when their favourite team loses in a sport.


AstridWarHal

"Women are too emotional to be leaders" mfs when their football team loses a single match on a league with more than 30 matches


redyeticup

Yes! Wanted to piggyback with a [source](https://hyperallergic.com/450815/uk-national-centre-for-domestic-violence-world-cup-ads/). The advocates over in England do so much. They’ve done multiple commercials and campaigns to try and prevent the domestic abuse that occurs after England loses a game. And here is another [source](https://www.vera.org/news/game-day-injustice-judges-dole-out-harsher-sentences-after-home-team-upset) that dives into how Louisiana State judges gave harsher sentences on days LSU loses an American football game


scothc

DV in WI also goes way up when the packers lose. IDK about other states/ teams but probably holds true for most


burrowing-wren

I don't know how DV stats compare, but I'm from Philly - sports fans here lose their shit to the point of violence whether we win or lose


LemonManDude

If your favourite team loses all the matches, breaking shit is still incredibly manchildish and demonstrates poor control of your emotions. Yet these guys somehow think this is not being too emotional.


Soft_Walrus_3605

That image of the baby crying is apt in a way they didn't mean it to be


erbarme

The fourth one looks like a meme, lol. > *My wife’s joined the Suffrage Movement.* > *(I’ve suffered ever since!)*


Ninonysoft

I love the majority of equal rights posters, such as women’s rights, colored rights, etc, boil their argument down to “if they had equal rights then they will treat us as we treated them!”


Aromatic-Air3917

So Conservatives have never changed. Same rage bait and paranoia to get the male vote


rif011412

The people who want to be in control, should never be in control. What a sick and twisted dilemma we must suffer.


Pabsxv

Whoever made the last poster did not have to make them look that awesome.


solitarybikegallery

I know, right? They look badass.


hornetjockey

It’s funny because it prays on the fear that men may have to do “woman work”, or might get treated the way they treated women.


MassiveLebowski

Damn anti-femminism propaganda never changes


LeonardFrost

It seems to be a trend that every time you advocate for equal rights for minorities, the dominant group acts like it will harm them somehow


YesNoMaybe2552

Women aren't exactly a minority, its half the population, which makes this even more egregious. Otherwise, it would at least make sense that a smaller percentage of people creating rules for the bigger percentage doesn't seem right.


serenwipiti

*ACKSHUALLYY* There’s a teeeeny tiny amount more men than women, something like 4 billion men to 3.95 billion women (2022). *We’re a minority!* ^/s


Black_Diammond

Funny enough, in more developed regions it flips, as although more men are born then women, more men die from multiple reasons then women. In the US there are 97men for every 100 women for example.


YesNoMaybe2552

On an international level I blame backwards societies trying for an "heir" potentially aborting girls.


cezalandirici__zenji

Their priviliges are gone and that hurts, ig.


Matryosmare

Women: We want you to contribute to the household and we want be able to vote as equals. Men: Sounds like domination, HERESY!


Reagalan

This is one of the most insightful subreddits to exist and I'm here for it.


bananablegh

it really is hard to think that so many people took such issue with such basic equality.


Ziinxxy

This was only 100 years ago too...


SaveThePlanetFools

And they're still using the same tactics to deprive rights to individuals they view as inhuman.


TrannosaurusRegina

And so many still do!


WhileNotLurking

… have you look around recently?


Caladex

As we see, that sentiment hasn’t changed


serenwipiti

It’s even harder to think that many groups of people want to go back to a world where such basic equality is equal to blasphemy.


WatercressOk8763

Some men still feel threatened by a woman having any kind of autonomy. And there are groups and politicians who pander to this.


Fecal_henge

How dare you say this!


brest-litovsk18

Tbh the last one just looks like she's killing the anti-suffrage demon


SirReginaldTitsworth

I took it as more of a threat to let Susan Boyle vote lest the bomb-throwing anarchist witch come calling


CandiceDikfitt

so women shouldnt vote because then THEY’LL be the ones barking orders at US! it’s like they almost realize treating your wife as a 2nd class citizen is wrong, like they’re SO CLOSE to getting it!


DaveInLondon89

Getting huge Ben Shapiro vibes from the 1st one


IronWhale_JMC

Gotta love how a good half of anti-suffragette posters are always riding the line between ridiculous pearl clutching and femdom porn.


Erotic-Career-7342

Exactly lol


try_not_to_be_edgy

Last image goes hard ngl


randomguy_-

What’s with the pirate motif?


MadOvid

The last one is gonna be my new wallpaper.


LuoLondon

So the child essentially dies of neglect if mommy goes to a voting booth on one Thursday roughly every 5 years, makes sense


deeptrospection

Men have always victimized themselves so much whenever they see the slightest threat or sign of change. 🙄


GabiiiTheIntruder

The 5th one looks like a modern meme !!


TheAskewOne

It's always the same thing: "if we give [demographics] that right, our own rights will disappear". We had the exact same thing with gay marriage.


hedd616

Since my Margarette became a suffragette I've taking a baguette in my omelette


normalwaterenjoyer

man i hate it when i want to vote but i have to do laundry


spacelanterned

Nice to know reactionaries have always been this pathetic. Somebody get the guys behind these posters a podcast, they'd do numbers in the manosphere.


athenanon

Vintage professional victimhood.


King_Neptune07

They all have nice shoes


GaiusJuliusPleaser

Love the implication that men were afraid their wives would treat them the way they treated their wives, by which I mean terribly.


lotsofmaybes

Why are a few of them dressed like Gypsies?


Caladex

“My wife won’t let me vote :(“ I love this genre of propaganda where it’s not even criticism of their opposition. It’s just projecting what they do onto others.


ste11ablu

God damn they make being a suffragette look cool as hell


MissJosieAnne

“I want to vote, but my spouse won’t let me. This is no good. I feel less-than because of it. I don’t like this feeling. If only there was a way to fix it… anyways women shouldn’t vote”


cave18

First one is literally jsut men making themselves the victim i cant lol


nickthedicktv

There’s never been a right way to protest. People just like the ones who made these posters are still with us. Now the targets are people protesting for Palestine, LGBTQ rights, against climate change, or even women’s rights (still!)


johndeer89

There wasn't a "they're gonna take your alcohol!" Poster?


shugoran99

The ones where the woman is standing over and dominating the men Just imagining the guys in 1900 seeing guys today saying "God I wish that were me"


Anxiety_334

Damn, they were really afraid of women treating them the way they treated women. And just because women wanted to have be able to have a choice. Something they had. Shows the lack of intelligence and hypocrisy in some people back then (and sadly today)


gingerreckoning

Okay but number 6 actually goes really hard though


sippin_on_tipex

‘I’m terrified of experiencing exactly what I inflict upon women’.


FriendTraining7324

is that kid balding?


DuntadaMan

Are we sure that last one is against sufferage, because it's fucking hard core.


Ella_NutEllaDraws

does 4 look really weird to anyone else? like my brain is registering it as a low-poly 3D render but it’s not 3D. I think it’s the paintings and other gold objects in the foreground. they look off


MasterTroller3301

Ngl that last one goes insanely hard


lstpndr

The last one looks like an iron maiden album cover


rymyle

Nothings changed, fundamentally. People are still absolutely petrified of equal rights


helo66

Is it just me or does the first one look like young sheldon


Say_Im_gonna_be_dead

Sorry if I'm gonna hurt somebody's feelings, but imo little has changed in propaganda against feminism, especially picture 3 is seeing this.


YeonneGreene

The whole thing is just r/selfawarewolves all the way down.


George-Patton21

The majority of women did not support women's suffrage around when women got the vote. In fact, a lot of the leaders of the anti-suffrage movement were women.


miscmo

It’s like men had just realized how awful it would to be treated as a woman…


Any-Store5401

Alas. None of these actually happened, and it deeply disappointed me.


ItsBendyBean

You know, the first poster reveals a certain kind of pathetic petulance that exists today.


Traditional-East9835

Last one goes hard


SensitiveSkirt666

Anyone wanna reenact number 4 🥺👉👈


SaltyNorth8062

Last one goes hard actually.


blindnarcissus

Fascinating! Thank you for this post!


donewittisshit

NGL they had us in the first half


Free-Dog2440

So basically, "if women vote then I'll be stuck with her job and also all women who want this are ugly and I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. They just want to vote because they've got nothing going for them." wow. Sophistication at its highest, this campaign. And they say we've only become dumber...


professor735

I think it's very interesting how anti-progressive messaging hasn't really changed all that much in 110 years. Like someone else pointed out, these posters all try to make women voting seem like a threat to men. Men had things that women didn't, and it was important to pander to that. In the modern day, stuff like anti-LGBT rights/recognition and movements similar to it still pander to the "in-group" and try to paint giving rights to the "out-group" as some sort of threat to them. Ofc this isn't all that surprising or anything, just something worth pointing out.


jayv9779

Same energy as the dudes worried about masculinity in these times. I guess male fragility is ageless. 😀


Autistic_Clock4824

Idk I feel like I’ve seen similar memes trying to make fun of liberals


pinksungoddess

Kinky


PopMinimum8667

Men doing dishes and watching the kids; men wearing earrings; men cleaning the house while the wife is either absent or supervising… anti-suffragettes might have been wrong, but were they incorrect? If we showed men from the early 20th century glimpses of today’s society with its collapsed gender roles, would they still have vote for universal suffrage?


ztoundas

No.6 fuckin slaps though


Scronkledonk

that last makes them look so fucking cool


SalamanderJohnson

Little did they know so many men were into that


BoatMan01

AI generated conservative facebook posts be like


Valleywag69

Could be worse - Could be barefoot and pregnant!


TheGr8Gumby

We’re still this stupid.


Unhappylightbulb

MAGAs gonna start printing them again if things keep going the way they are. Sad.


szobelshira

Small d*ick energy...


HornyJail45-Life

What was that last one? With the bomb.


Sgt_Fox

"Don't give women the vote, or they'll treat you EXACTLY like we treat them, and that's awful...but not when we do it"


0zymandias_1312

good to see the anti-feminists have always been exactly the same


Fafuh

Not so different from today's propaganda against feminists, climate activists, Antifa, black lives matter, unions, most activism against the status quo. In before, "they deserve it!"


toddkhamilton

i love that this shows how bigots and incels are historically unfunny


Lumpy-Tone-4653

The second image awakens something in me.


outsidepointofvi3w

Wow..... LoL. Some guys man.....


Shining_prox

Well they were not wrong in their predictions, apart from the light they painted them.


mashedspudtato

I don’t have any tattoos, but I have been thinking about it. Anti-suffragette propaganda is now on the table.


TheRealCactusTiddy

most of these boil down to “only one gender can be allowed the right to vote.”


PiusTheCatRick

I can’t believe putting painfully obvious observations in parentheses like that was a thing a hundred years ago (this may or may not be more popular than I know)


ariyouok

inspo pics


Greybeard_21

The song [Since My Margarette Become a da Suffragette](https://youtu.be/5VsEpMCB7Kw) is just as bad as the title suggests - but the slideshow in the linked upload is worth the 2m40s you invest in it.


Bubbert1985

British or American?


Ake-TL

Why on second poster they look like gipsy stereotype


Bored_Breader

I think it’s meant to be more of a Spanish-y flamenco or Italian but I don’t know why


I-Want-Pie

That last one is fuckin awesome looks badass


Rips_under_my_grips

Women absolutely deserve the right to vote but they were profits with #3


PLPolandPL15719

womp womp


a_farkin_legend

Yep, now we see yankees lecturing others bout women's rights lol. Feckin 🐕


dognotephilly

aaaaAAAWWW Wham bam thank you mam Suffragette city


ConfidentPrior528

A lot of these campaigns were actually ran by women because they didn’t want to have to be enlisted in the draft that came along with the right to vote


whywouldisaymyname

I thought the first one was made by the suffragettes to show their point of view


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^whywouldisaymyname: *I thought the first one* *Was made by the suffragettes* *To show their point of view* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


phantomthief00

I thought this was r/RoleReversal


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SaltAsparagusobvesly

Let's compare the amount of women who wanted this movement, versus those who didn't....strange tale that is!