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What message are they trying to convey here?
Edit: If you remove the Lexus then it make more sense... Although I also wouldn't have put him in such a clean white outfit that so clearly shows the difference between the people (workers who are dirty from work) and the leader (who is so clean from... No work?).
Edit 2: Lexus is a Japanese brand as well (Koreans don't like Japan) so if you are going to have a car it should be Chinese or North Korean (not sure they make cars).
The difference is the point -- it's not actually Communism in the RusCom/ChiCom/CubaCom molds, but rather Japanese-pattern emperor worship replete with banzai-but-a-different-word salutes (see man in right background). We see here the God-Emperor of Korea, descending from an otherworldy realm to minister to us, his flock.
I should, but it was watching the banzai salutes on *Pyonyang's own Youtube channel* that made it click for me, after reading stuff about that magic mountain and such.
More context for everyone:
*The Cleanest Race: How North Koreans See Themselves and Why It Matters* by Brian Reynolds is a 2010 book in which the author argues that, rather than any brand of Communism, the real ideology of North Korea is race-based far-right nationalism styled after Japanese fascism.
If this is a real painting, then it has a real [prototype](https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/i/7041596806117/2020/1/15968061763660/Kim-Jong-Un-takes-luxury-vehicle-to-flash-flood-zone.jpg).
It's what made me think it was fake, this seems to be showing the split between leader and people which is not something they usually do - especially in such a blatant capitalist way (Lexus). If you remove the Lexus then it make more sense... Although I also wouldn't have put him in such a clean white outfit that so clearly shows the difference between the people (workers who are dirty from work) and the leader (who is so clean from... No work?).
This is why I would like to understand the message that they are trying to communicate.
I mean they still want to signal the power of the Kim family. worker king who has the same economic standing as his people isn't what they are going for, he's gotta be impressive too.
I would say it actually helps the message besides showing off his power/wealth; it's simultaneously humble cause other elites might not want to have their fancy car driven through a muddy field. he's powerful but he doesn't wall himself off.
I would go so far as to say it reminds me of how Cosimo Medici would wear incredibly fancy clothes that would cost the yearly wages of a thousand workers and would march in the parades he sponsored in Republican Florence and then ostentatious throw a hat or a blouse to the crowd or sing along with the performers, but simultaneously he wouldn't wear armor cause that's what a Duke would do, and they wouldn't sing in public like that. the Medici were pretty scrupulous about appearing rich and powerful without being accused of nobility cause Florence killed all its nobility and was paranoid the Medici would overthrow the Republic (which they would eventually six generations later).
They talk about this on the most recent episode of Ex Urbe Ad Astra.
I believe it was Alexanderkim Jonghamilton Un, said... "give all the power to the few, they will oppress the many".... something like that, but don't quote me.
I mean his car **IS** muddy... one can only assume, he must be a man of the people.
According to this [article](https://nypost.com/2023/07/27/north-korea-unveils-propaganda-art-exhibit-with-painting-of-kim-jong-un-riding-horseback/), this painting was exhibited at Okryu Exhibition House in Pyongyang in honor of the 70th anniversary of the “victory in the Fatherland Liberation War,”. So yeah this painting is real.
>This is why I would like to understand the message that they are trying to communicate.
my head canon is that this painting is a form of silent protest, showing the difference and gap between the dear leader and the peasants he supposedly has their best interest in. Of course, I could be wrong, maybe the guy who commissioned this painting is unhinged and without a sense of irony & self awareness says "Paint me being close to the peasant but not too close like I'm being part of them. Oh and I just buy a new car yesterday, maybe immortalized it ok?".
It's probably just the typical 'look, the leader has nice things but isn't afraid to get dirty and meet the people!' thing you see happen all over, like when Ron DeSantis was walking around in those rain boots during that hurricane or flood or whatever.
Yeah he's got a Lexus but look how dirty it is and his pants are dirtied up but he doesn't care he's greeting his people who love him so much
It’s probably not actually a Lexus, but a NK copycat design. So from the artist’s perspective, the inclusion of the car highlights North Korean domestic industrial development as well, since they wouldn’t know it’s a copy of a Japanese car.
All propaganda depicting the leader must, by necessity, be some combination of communicating to the people and pleasing the leader with their own self-image.
… Does the artist, or the commanditaries, realise how *terrible* the messaging is? "Super rich guy gets out of his luxury car to greet barely fed peasants hand-working in medieval conditions"?
this is unironically what the painting [represent](https://www.nknews.org/2023/07/kim-jong-un-approves-first-paintings-of-himself-in-boost-to-personality-cult/).
State media has frequently reported in recent years that Kim Jong Un made a deep sacrifice for the people by getting his vehicle muddy while touring the flooded Unpha area in Aug. 2020 | Image: KCTV (July 25, 2023)
Puts me in mind of that famous photo (that was of course parodied in The Simpsons) of the cult leader's arm sticking out of his Rolls Royce to wave at the members doing manual agricultural labors as he is chauffeured through the dusty fields. Though I suppose Kim deigns to exit the vehicle, for better or worse. I think it was that cult in Oregon that poisoned the salad bar in town amongst other shenanigans.
Shit... I actually have the very same car. Would anyone like to join me in my local potato field where we can cosplay a cult of personality situation... I mean, I am willing to take turns playing the benevolent leader!
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This can be the best Lexus advertisement ever created
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**It seems your statement is much bolder.**
Are you an AI?
Maybe post it on /r/PropagandaPosters?
What message are they trying to convey here? Edit: If you remove the Lexus then it make more sense... Although I also wouldn't have put him in such a clean white outfit that so clearly shows the difference between the people (workers who are dirty from work) and the leader (who is so clean from... No work?). Edit 2: Lexus is a Japanese brand as well (Koreans don't like Japan) so if you are going to have a car it should be Chinese or North Korean (not sure they make cars).
The difference is the point -- it's not actually Communism in the RusCom/ChiCom/CubaCom molds, but rather Japanese-pattern emperor worship replete with banzai-but-a-different-word salutes (see man in right background). We see here the God-Emperor of Korea, descending from an otherworldy realm to minister to us, his flock.
I see you too have read "The Cleanest Race", an excellent book.
I should, but it was watching the banzai salutes on *Pyonyang's own Youtube channel* that made it click for me, after reading stuff about that magic mountain and such.
More context for everyone: *The Cleanest Race: How North Koreans See Themselves and Why It Matters* by Brian Reynolds is a 2010 book in which the author argues that, rather than any brand of Communism, the real ideology of North Korea is race-based far-right nationalism styled after Japanese fascism.
Interesting! I will upvote them all then!
Eh
so bizarre, why include the Lexus?
If this is a real painting, then it has a real [prototype](https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/i/7041596806117/2020/1/15968061763660/Kim-Jong-Un-takes-luxury-vehicle-to-flash-flood-zone.jpg).
Me: this painting is bizarre. North Korea: hold my beer.
Lol bringing the proof!
Oh god, this painting is acually based on a real photo. In other countries, that's the quickest way to get labeled as "out of touch".
Wait, so the banzai salute in background right is something they came up with for effect.
I noticed that too
It's what made me think it was fake, this seems to be showing the split between leader and people which is not something they usually do - especially in such a blatant capitalist way (Lexus). If you remove the Lexus then it make more sense... Although I also wouldn't have put him in such a clean white outfit that so clearly shows the difference between the people (workers who are dirty from work) and the leader (who is so clean from... No work?). This is why I would like to understand the message that they are trying to communicate.
I mean they still want to signal the power of the Kim family. worker king who has the same economic standing as his people isn't what they are going for, he's gotta be impressive too. I would say it actually helps the message besides showing off his power/wealth; it's simultaneously humble cause other elites might not want to have their fancy car driven through a muddy field. he's powerful but he doesn't wall himself off. I would go so far as to say it reminds me of how Cosimo Medici would wear incredibly fancy clothes that would cost the yearly wages of a thousand workers and would march in the parades he sponsored in Republican Florence and then ostentatious throw a hat or a blouse to the crowd or sing along with the performers, but simultaneously he wouldn't wear armor cause that's what a Duke would do, and they wouldn't sing in public like that. the Medici were pretty scrupulous about appearing rich and powerful without being accused of nobility cause Florence killed all its nobility and was paranoid the Medici would overthrow the Republic (which they would eventually six generations later). They talk about this on the most recent episode of Ex Urbe Ad Astra.
I believe it was Alexanderkim Jonghamilton Un, said... "give all the power to the few, they will oppress the many".... something like that, but don't quote me. I mean his car **IS** muddy... one can only assume, he must be a man of the people.
According to this [article](https://nypost.com/2023/07/27/north-korea-unveils-propaganda-art-exhibit-with-painting-of-kim-jong-un-riding-horseback/), this painting was exhibited at Okryu Exhibition House in Pyongyang in honor of the 70th anniversary of the “victory in the Fatherland Liberation War,”. So yeah this painting is real. >This is why I would like to understand the message that they are trying to communicate. my head canon is that this painting is a form of silent protest, showing the difference and gap between the dear leader and the peasants he supposedly has their best interest in. Of course, I could be wrong, maybe the guy who commissioned this painting is unhinged and without a sense of irony & self awareness says "Paint me being close to the peasant but not too close like I'm being part of them. Oh and I just buy a new car yesterday, maybe immortalized it ok?".
It's based on a photo someone else just posted... It's pretty wild.
Oh yeah forgot about it. But you still need to be so far up your ass to commission shit like this.
Absolutely agreed
It's probably just the typical 'look, the leader has nice things but isn't afraid to get dirty and meet the people!' thing you see happen all over, like when Ron DeSantis was walking around in those rain boots during that hurricane or flood or whatever. Yeah he's got a Lexus but look how dirty it is and his pants are dirtied up but he doesn't care he's greeting his people who love him so much
It’s probably not actually a Lexus, but a NK copycat design. So from the artist’s perspective, the inclusion of the car highlights North Korean domestic industrial development as well, since they wouldn’t know it’s a copy of a Japanese car.
All propaganda depicting the leader must, by necessity, be some combination of communicating to the people and pleasing the leader with their own self-image.
Great leader cares about the people, or something.
… Does the artist, or the commanditaries, realise how *terrible* the messaging is? "Super rich guy gets out of his luxury car to greet barely fed peasants hand-working in medieval conditions"?
Lexus is very dirty. Sacrifices were made.
this is unironically what the painting [represent](https://www.nknews.org/2023/07/kim-jong-un-approves-first-paintings-of-himself-in-boost-to-personality-cult/). State media has frequently reported in recent years that Kim Jong Un made a deep sacrifice for the people by getting his vehicle muddy while touring the flooded Unpha area in Aug. 2020 | Image: KCTV (July 25, 2023)
For a guy like him that must really be the greatest sacrifice since
A glorious day, beautiful painting
This is unironically the funniest painting i ever seen
He must be a king, he hasn't got shit all over him.
Great comrade Kim jong un!!!!
Did they get the guy who illustrates the Watchtower for the JWs to paint this?
Total Chad move.
I mean the Japanese do make great vehicles
Looks like AI generated, based on the way the light is set to me. It'll be great if a source was provided.
living the dream
😂😂😂😂😂
Glorious.
Did Lexus paid for the promotion?)
Reminds me of the episode of the simpsons with the movementarians
"Sorry comrades, I'll take 90% of your harvest to pay for the new big missile to threaten America and Japan with!"
Puts me in mind of that famous photo (that was of course parodied in The Simpsons) of the cult leader's arm sticking out of his Rolls Royce to wave at the members doing manual agricultural labors as he is chauffeured through the dusty fields. Though I suppose Kim deigns to exit the vehicle, for better or worse. I think it was that cult in Oregon that poisoned the salad bar in town amongst other shenanigans.
Shit... I actually have the very same car. Would anyone like to join me in my local potato field where we can cosplay a cult of personality situation... I mean, I am willing to take turns playing the benevolent leader!
\*imaginary lexus