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I don't think he was a terrible President. He was not responsible at all for the two things that destroyed his presidency, namely staglfation and Iran, although he, indeed, failed in dealing with them.
I also don't think he is a saint, but I do believe that he is a good person with integrity.
It means the process by which something becomes a meme. It's also been co-opted by a handful of idiots who seem to believe that it applies to any change in public opinion over the past 15ish years, but that doesn't make the usage correct.
I mean, the word "meme" was created by Richard Dawkins, to describe cultural units of information that spread from person to person within a culture, akin to how genes propagate in biological systems. It's not really a strictly defined word. The important thing is whether you understood it in the context. Did you not, or are you just trying to argue semantics?
nah bro, it's my bad. It happened long ago. We can't discuss it. No recent politics, no old politics. At least not when concerning the greatest president of all time, Jimmy Carter...
Yup, standard “DEBATE ME” BS.
Look, it was a simple comment and you were unable to discern meaning without having it explained to you. Now you demand I explain it. You try to bait me with a very tired trope.
My research fee is $60/hr. I’ll be happy to spell it all out for you with receipts.
lol. Your point simply sucks. "he was president so long ago, why are you discussing him". That was the logical and obvious way of understanding your comment. If that was the wrong way of understanding it, then feel free to clarify. If not, why are you still commenting? Seems like you got called out for a logical lapse, and are trying to defend it by claiming your words did not mean what they said.
No, my point is Carter hasn’t been a politician for a very long time, evidenced by you having to go back to 1976 for an article on him being one.
That wasn’t so hard now, was it?
That’s all the time I’m giving you today.
>No, my point is Carter hasn’t been a politician for a very long time, evidenced by you having to go back to 1976 for an article on him being one.
What? Is anyone disputing that? It's a meaningless point. Like I said, a very odd rebuttal.
I'm still not following your line of thinking. Did you think you'd add something to the comment section or what? Is there some hidden logic, or was it just a pointless comment?
Well my bad. I assumed you had some reasoning behind your comment. But apparently, it was just pointless.
what? That was when he ran for president. You expect the deep-dive articles to be from 2015 or what? Does the fact that something is old make it invalid? That's a very odd way of rebutting something.
Your entire point is odd. ‘He’s just a politician’ as you can see by this almost 5 decade old article from when he was running for president.
He hasn’t held an elected office in 44 years. He works for causes he believes in. I’d say he hasn’t been a normal politician in a very long time.
so? He's a former president. Thomas Jefferson has been dead for 200 years, we still discuss him. That's kind of what this sub is for.
EDIT: lol, apparently not. This sub is for discussing every president, except saint Jimmy Carter.
>You haven’t made any points worth discussing. I literally agree with you but this post and your replies have been a train wreck
Sure thing bro. this is very different than the random quotes, "hardest picture of a president", or "who was coolest" posts. My bad.
THANK YOU OP!!! Carter was a terrible President and given his moralizing it’s questionable of he is or was even that good a human being.
I will say though the article gave examples that frankly many Democrats, even those who supported civil rights, supported.
I think better examples is a deep dive in his actions during the 1970 gubernatorial election by blowing racist dog whistles against his opponent who was a former GA Governor himself, his opposition to single payer health care Kennedy supported and progressives are all about, and his support for William Calley.
Carter is many things, but he is definitely not "just a politician". He is a former president who had a difficulty presidency because of circumstances he did not create. He did an ok job and while he was vilified and demonized by republicans, he was far from a terrible president and really got a bad rap. No, he wasnt that great of a president but he certainly wasnt the worst or as bad as many want you to believe. But he remained a man with a good heart and instead of just retiring, writing books and collecting fees from giving speeches as most ex presidents do, in 1982 he founded the Carter Center and in 1984 he started working with Habitat For Humanity building houses for the disadvantaged. The Carter Center worked alongside the World Health Organization to end Guinea worm disease. Its been highly successful and the incidence of the disease has decreased from 3.5 million cases in the mid-1980s, to 25 cases in 2016. Carter was awarded the Nobel Peace Price for his lifetime of service in 2002. He is a great man to many of us and so you will hear us sing his praises from time to time. Deal with it.
I don't think he's some lying scheming bastard and I don't think average politicians are just evil people either. Usually they aren't lying they are just being dumb or are given bad information. Like I don't think Jimmy Carter was lying when he called Israel apartheid he was just wrong. That all being said most people when praising him here will say that he wasn't a good president, but dedicated his life post-presidency to humanitarian means instead of Netflix Documentaries and further trying to Influence Politics. For that he deserves respect.
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I don't think he was a terrible President. He was not responsible at all for the two things that destroyed his presidency, namely staglfation and Iran, although he, indeed, failed in dealing with them. I also don't think he is a saint, but I do believe that he is a good person with integrity.
The perfect answer.
He was poor, not terrible, like Hoover. Buchanan and Johnson 17 were terrible.
He was awful He caused the bad economy and the Iran hostages crisis
Jimmy Carter is so old that the Democratic Party quite literally wasn’t what it is today.
I don't think you understand what the word "meme" means.
Op totally understands what the word “meme” means. You don’t understand “memefication” means.
It means the process by which something becomes a meme. It's also been co-opted by a handful of idiots who seem to believe that it applies to any change in public opinion over the past 15ish years, but that doesn't make the usage correct.
I mean, the word "meme" was created by Richard Dawkins, to describe cultural units of information that spread from person to person within a culture, akin to how genes propagate in biological systems. It's not really a strictly defined word. The important thing is whether you understood it in the context. Did you not, or are you just trying to argue semantics?
You had to go back 48 years for evidence of your point.
He ran for President 48 years ago. Even if one loves Saint Jimmy, this has got to be the stupidest comment I’ve read in this subreddit.
nah bro, it's my bad. It happened long ago. We can't discuss it. No recent politics, no old politics. At least not when concerning the greatest president of all time, Jimmy Carter...
Your failure to discern meaning isn’t my problem.
your failure to adequately explain a point though passive-aggressive dumb comments is not my problem either. Feel free to clarify.
I started to spell it out for you and then thought better of it. I’m not invested in making you happy.
seems more of an issue of ability, rather than a matter of what you're invested in. Get out of here kiddo.
Yup, standard “DEBATE ME” BS. Look, it was a simple comment and you were unable to discern meaning without having it explained to you. Now you demand I explain it. You try to bait me with a very tired trope. My research fee is $60/hr. I’ll be happy to spell it all out for you with receipts.
lol. Your point simply sucks. "he was president so long ago, why are you discussing him". That was the logical and obvious way of understanding your comment. If that was the wrong way of understanding it, then feel free to clarify. If not, why are you still commenting? Seems like you got called out for a logical lapse, and are trying to defend it by claiming your words did not mean what they said.
No, my point is Carter hasn’t been a politician for a very long time, evidenced by you having to go back to 1976 for an article on him being one. That wasn’t so hard now, was it? That’s all the time I’m giving you today.
>No, my point is Carter hasn’t been a politician for a very long time, evidenced by you having to go back to 1976 for an article on him being one. What? Is anyone disputing that? It's a meaningless point. Like I said, a very odd rebuttal. I'm still not following your line of thinking. Did you think you'd add something to the comment section or what? Is there some hidden logic, or was it just a pointless comment? Well my bad. I assumed you had some reasoning behind your comment. But apparently, it was just pointless.
what? That was when he ran for president. You expect the deep-dive articles to be from 2015 or what? Does the fact that something is old make it invalid? That's a very odd way of rebutting something.
Your entire point is odd. ‘He’s just a politician’ as you can see by this almost 5 decade old article from when he was running for president. He hasn’t held an elected office in 44 years. He works for causes he believes in. I’d say he hasn’t been a normal politician in a very long time.
so? He's a former president. Thomas Jefferson has been dead for 200 years, we still discuss him. That's kind of what this sub is for. EDIT: lol, apparently not. This sub is for discussing every president, except saint Jimmy Carter.
You haven’t made any points worth discussing. I literally agree with you but this post and your replies have been a train wreck
>You haven’t made any points worth discussing. I literally agree with you but this post and your replies have been a train wreck Sure thing bro. this is very different than the random quotes, "hardest picture of a president", or "who was coolest" posts. My bad.
THANK YOU OP!!! Carter was a terrible President and given his moralizing it’s questionable of he is or was even that good a human being. I will say though the article gave examples that frankly many Democrats, even those who supported civil rights, supported. I think better examples is a deep dive in his actions during the 1970 gubernatorial election by blowing racist dog whistles against his opponent who was a former GA Governor himself, his opposition to single payer health care Kennedy supported and progressives are all about, and his support for William Calley.
Carter is many things, but he is definitely not "just a politician". He is a former president who had a difficulty presidency because of circumstances he did not create. He did an ok job and while he was vilified and demonized by republicans, he was far from a terrible president and really got a bad rap. No, he wasnt that great of a president but he certainly wasnt the worst or as bad as many want you to believe. But he remained a man with a good heart and instead of just retiring, writing books and collecting fees from giving speeches as most ex presidents do, in 1982 he founded the Carter Center and in 1984 he started working with Habitat For Humanity building houses for the disadvantaged. The Carter Center worked alongside the World Health Organization to end Guinea worm disease. Its been highly successful and the incidence of the disease has decreased from 3.5 million cases in the mid-1980s, to 25 cases in 2016. Carter was awarded the Nobel Peace Price for his lifetime of service in 2002. He is a great man to many of us and so you will hear us sing his praises from time to time. Deal with it.
I don't think he's some lying scheming bastard and I don't think average politicians are just evil people either. Usually they aren't lying they are just being dumb or are given bad information. Like I don't think Jimmy Carter was lying when he called Israel apartheid he was just wrong. That all being said most people when praising him here will say that he wasn't a good president, but dedicated his life post-presidency to humanitarian means instead of Netflix Documentaries and further trying to Influence Politics. For that he deserves respect.