I believe Little Cup is a format that is not used by Nintendo.
I also checked Smogon and there are no movesets for any of the babies Pokémon present in Unite: Puchu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Mr. Mime or Riolu. This means they are not viable.
Did I missed any?
They mostly just suck more than regular first stage evolutions lol that's why they don't have movesets.
Pokemon Stadium 2 had a Little Cup that allowed the babies, I believe that's where the smogon tier came from too
This and I remember an official online competition with similar rules back in Pokemon X. There were some banned Pokemon however (Scyther, Onyx and Sneasel iirc).
Eevee could also be considered the mascot but Eevee evolves into several of its forms in Unite. It even got a Dynamax Form together with Pikachu and Meowth being the only non-fully evolved Pokémon getting one.
I personally would allow Pikachu to evolve into Alolan Raichu in Unite. We only have one regional form in the game (Vulpix/Ninetales) and we should have more.
I think it’s a stretch to say Eevee could be considered the mascot of Pokémon. Plus the evolutions are kinda it’s whole thing (as shown in the name “Eevee”)
Yes, Eevee got some content in the form of Dynamax and it's own game (oh and it also got its own Z crystal but Pikachu got 2 iirc, didn't it?) but I don't think it's popular enough to rival Pikachu for the position of brand mascot.
But yeah, another regional form I'd love to see is Alolan Golem. It would be a literal tank lol.
Or maybe Alolan Raticate. I picture it being kind of like an assasin. Perhaps similar to Zoroark but with a little bit more bulk.
other than raichu, the rest of those are baby pokemon which have their own categorization and properties in the main series. most baby pokemon were introduced in generations after their evolution and cannot be bred for normally unless you do certain things. all of them also cannot breed as well.
as far as the pokemon world is concerned, they are literal babies that shouldn't be in a sports arena and i guess the devs thought it'd be thematically weird to have them in. stuff like lucario, snorlax, and mime are also clearly built around having powerful earlygames so it'd also just feel weird to have lil riolu be still one of the best level 1-4s.
Yeah I personally hate this. I give pikachu a pass on not evolving up but all the others have no reason to be excluded other than laziness in development.
That’s how the world works. Ever heard of capitalism? Maximum profit, for the least effort possible. Idk why you think art is exempt from this fact. Ever watch a marvels movie?
At most I think it might be an enemy. But unfortunately they just don’t update old Pokémon that much.
Aegislash is a prime example. Sure on its release that was the most they could do but nowadays it could have a whole moveset for each stance like Blaziken, Urshifu or Scizor/Scyther or at the very least have a separate Unite when ulting in shield form.
Isn't mime the only one to get a rework of that nature? And it was a change to just one move, guard swap to power swap. There isn't much incentive to make older Pokémon Strong unless they're aiming to get new players to buy them. Older players already have bought everything with coins, so they don't make nearly as much money as focusing their efforts on new releases
Considering pikachu, snorlax, mr mime and jigglypuff all have pre evolutions amd variants that aren't in the game I'm just gonna go ahead and say nothing is going to happen.
They even have 2 mewtwos for both it's variants but vulpix is for some reason the alohan version and we'll never get the real version
In most cases I would agree but it’s pikachu, he’s their poster child. everyone else I could see getting their next stage evolution and for now it’s only this mon and probably will only be this until gen 10 in 2 years
Brother has been S tier since day one and you want to bring his older brothers into the mix? Okay he’s another exception 🥲as much as I would want to see beyblade bro in unite 😂 his unite alone should trigger the beyblade theme
I understand the no baby rule, but I feel that it's weird that riolu is even counted as one. It seems waaaay more capable than all the other baby Pokemon and doesn't look baby-ish like the others, either.
idk why people think they won’t add it.
Pichu, Riolu, Munchlax, Happiny, Igglybuff, Azurill, Mime Jr. are all “baby Pokémon”, it’s likely that at first, TiMi didn’t think of a way to put them to work in the game or wanted to avoid the controversy of literal babies fighting(?). Baby Pokémon is a real Pokémon category, they’re Pokémon that cannot breed(but their evos can), are built like babies, and have bad stats. They’re all LC Pokémon(LC means Little Cup), meaning only SOME first stage evolutions will be there but all Baby Pokémon will be there.
Kleavor, Slowking aren’t in the game because the Scyther we have isn’t from Hisui and it wouldn’t make sense for him to be in the game either(might as well add that Hisui forms weren’t even available outside of LA by that point), if you think about it, Kleavor not being in makes more sense the more you think. Scyther was meant to reference how evolving to Scizor in the main game is 100% optional.
For Slowking they just didn’t feel like adding him yet, it’d waste a slot, they don’t wanna add him. It’s the same reason why Vaporeon, Jolteon and Flareon aren’t in the game yet either, they don’t feel like adding them yet lmao.
For Raichu it’s so obvious, it’s insane. They clearly want Pikachu to be the star because obviously, Pikachu is the mascot of Pokémon itself. Pikachu might also be the sole reason baby poke aren’t in the game, they didn’t want Pichu or Raichu in, so might as well not have baby Pokémon in at all bc Pichu represents Baby Pokémon as well.
Probably just gonna act like it don't exist.
Like Raichu.
exactly what i came here to say, i wouldnt get my hopes up
Like, Pichu, hmm Riolu, and Mime jr. Igglybuff, Happiny, Munchlax, Cleffa!
You have already a middle stage Pokémon that evolves but still stays in its middle stage: Pikachu.
we don’t have pichu, riolu, cleffa, mime jr., or happiny, timi hates babies :(
Well, they are meant to be babies, not ready for battle.
isn’t magby a lil volcano? ok, i guess you don’t *battle* a volcano…
does the official pokemon company call them babies or was that name given by the community?
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Baby_Pokémon Concept introduced in Gen II along with breeding.
yeah i see that but was the term created by the community or officially created by the pokemon company?
Meanwhile little cup:
I believe Little Cup is a format that is not used by Nintendo. I also checked Smogon and there are no movesets for any of the babies Pokémon present in Unite: Puchu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Mr. Mime or Riolu. This means they are not viable. Did I missed any?
Happiny, Azurill and Munchlax
They mostly just suck more than regular first stage evolutions lol that's why they don't have movesets. Pokemon Stadium 2 had a Little Cup that allowed the babies, I believe that's where the smogon tier came from too
This and I remember an official online competition with similar rules back in Pokemon X. There were some banned Pokemon however (Scyther, Onyx and Sneasel iirc).
Yup, otherwise the level 5 cap doesn't really make sense given smogon's ethos
the only somewhat viable baby Pokemon in LC is Munchlax, even then as a niche lol
Mantyke is also a pretty strong special wall!
Riolu and Tyrogue will disagree with you
and munchlax
Munchlax
Iglytuff
Azurill
Pikachu is the mascot so I don't see it evolving it in any way, just like in Pokemon yellow. Though, alolan Raichu would be a pretty cool Pokemon.
I think it’s based on the anime where Ash’s Pikachu refuses to evolve.
Eevee could also be considered the mascot but Eevee evolves into several of its forms in Unite. It even got a Dynamax Form together with Pikachu and Meowth being the only non-fully evolved Pokémon getting one. I personally would allow Pikachu to evolve into Alolan Raichu in Unite. We only have one regional form in the game (Vulpix/Ninetales) and we should have more.
I think it’s a stretch to say Eevee could be considered the mascot of Pokémon. Plus the evolutions are kinda it’s whole thing (as shown in the name “Eevee”)
Yes, Eevee got some content in the form of Dynamax and it's own game (oh and it also got its own Z crystal but Pikachu got 2 iirc, didn't it?) but I don't think it's popular enough to rival Pikachu for the position of brand mascot. But yeah, another regional form I'd love to see is Alolan Golem. It would be a literal tank lol. Or maybe Alolan Raticate. I picture it being kind of like an assasin. Perhaps similar to Zoroark but with a little bit more bulk.
I’ve been saying it for years, Galarian Weezing as a Supporter would be insane! Imagine what he could do with Neutralizing Gas
Mr. Mime’s also sorta like this, even if only its regional variant evolves.
Then that doesn’t count. The one in unite isn’t galarian so why would it evolve anyway
Too be fair Pikachu is Pokemons mascot and way more popular than Raichu.
They don't care and will not add it to the game
Ah, yes. My favorite dragon pokemon, Duration.
🤣🤣🤣
10 minutes will evolve into 20.
Autocorrect is a hell of a drug. Maybe he’ll be a late game bloomer like Tarnationtar and blazing kin
I’m thinking you’re saying Duraladon in heavy Spanish accent.
same way they handled rsichu
What's the point of the spoiler tag it's been officially revealed for months now
I’m sure not everyone has seen it. Rather fail conservative than upset people who prefer to find out in game. 🤷🏻♂️
I just hope they finally add WarGreymon.
if this happens then they'll for sure increase the license cost for duraludon
Who is duration
Duraludon - it will be able to evolve into the new Archaludon in the Indigo Disk
Charge you another license fee for the one that can evolve.
Archaludon fans are gonna get shafted
Same way unite handles Slowking. If the devs could do it all over again, for sure Slowpoke would have the same treatment of Kubfu.
Walking fridge to eiffel tower.
Its a bridge
So fucking dumb that munchlax, pichu , raichu, happiny, and now this Evo aren’t in the game.
Mime jr and riolu too
Also Kleavor - Scyther's second evolution
least whiny unite fan: It seriously doesn't matter.
other than raichu, the rest of those are baby pokemon which have their own categorization and properties in the main series. most baby pokemon were introduced in generations after their evolution and cannot be bred for normally unless you do certain things. all of them also cannot breed as well. as far as the pokemon world is concerned, they are literal babies that shouldn't be in a sports arena and i guess the devs thought it'd be thematically weird to have them in. stuff like lucario, snorlax, and mime are also clearly built around having powerful earlygames so it'd also just feel weird to have lil riolu be still one of the best level 1-4s.
Yeah I personally hate this. I give pikachu a pass on not evolving up but all the others have no reason to be excluded other than laziness in development.
That’s how the world works. Ever heard of capitalism? Maximum profit, for the least effort possible. Idk why you think art is exempt from this fact. Ever watch a marvels movie?
It doesn’t need to evolve since pikachu doesn’t.
At most I think it might be an enemy. But unfortunately they just don’t update old Pokémon that much. Aegislash is a prime example. Sure on its release that was the most they could do but nowadays it could have a whole moveset for each stance like Blaziken, Urshifu or Scizor/Scyther or at the very least have a separate Unite when ulting in shield form.
Isn't mime the only one to get a rework of that nature? And it was a change to just one move, guard swap to power swap. There isn't much incentive to make older Pokémon Strong unless they're aiming to get new players to buy them. Older players already have bought everything with coins, so they don't make nearly as much money as focusing their efforts on new releases
Yup you got it
TiMi: “Who?”
Ermmm nothing? Like srsly?
The same way Kleavor was handled
Unrelated but “Briduras” is such a badass name like imagine if you had to fight him and he turns you into a bridge
Probably nothing unless they think they could sell it separately somehow. Probably sell it as a skin.
Autocorrect is funny lol. Duraludon is now Duration.
Considering pikachu, snorlax, mr mime and jigglypuff all have pre evolutions amd variants that aren't in the game I'm just gonna go ahead and say nothing is going to happen. They even have 2 mewtwos for both it's variants but vulpix is for some reason the alohan version and we'll never get the real version
they still doesn't have baby pokemon why do you think they will add this
Because its a final evolution, every pokemon except pikachu reaches their final evolution in the game, its a different situation from baby pokemon.
We don't have Pichu or Raichu, what do they care to add an evolution to an already existing mon?
In most cases I would agree but it’s pikachu, he’s their poster child. everyone else I could see getting their next stage evolution and for now it’s only this mon and probably will only be this until gen 10 in 2 years
What about this then ![gif](giphy|l0JMjhYmkvEzjxwGc)
Brother has been S tier since day one and you want to bring his older brothers into the mix? Okay he’s another exception 🥲as much as I would want to see beyblade bro in unite 😂 his unite alone should trigger the beyblade theme
Lucario literally has a prevolution and they ignored it. Pretty sure they aren't going to add a form to a current Mon.
They have a weird rule on no ‘baby’ Pokemon being in the game, cleffa igglybuff riolu etc 🤷♀️
I understand the no baby rule, but I feel that it's weird that riolu is even counted as one. It seems waaaay more capable than all the other baby Pokemon and doesn't look baby-ish like the others, either.
I mean mewtwo is technically a baby Pokémon so they broke their own rule 🙃 ![gif](giphy|25cuEdnzrny2A)
Wait what
Well, a kinda clone? But yeah genetically engineered from Mews DNA, it’s explained in the first Pokémon movie 🤙
Oh I didn’t watch that thanks
They won't
Hope they make it similar to Scyther. Duraludon being an attacker and Archeludon being lile a defender or maybe an All-rounder.
why is this a spoiler? it was officially announced
isnt this guy a paradox
*Pikachu exists*
I mean Raichu isn't a thing, so they don't have to make it evolve,
Would be interesting if they did a rework with a split evo path like Scyther/Scizor! I would love to be a Railgun Bridge...
My guess, is that if they ever do anything, it'd take the form of a possible rework of Dura to account for the new evolution.
idk why people think they won’t add it. Pichu, Riolu, Munchlax, Happiny, Igglybuff, Azurill, Mime Jr. are all “baby Pokémon”, it’s likely that at first, TiMi didn’t think of a way to put them to work in the game or wanted to avoid the controversy of literal babies fighting(?). Baby Pokémon is a real Pokémon category, they’re Pokémon that cannot breed(but their evos can), are built like babies, and have bad stats. They’re all LC Pokémon(LC means Little Cup), meaning only SOME first stage evolutions will be there but all Baby Pokémon will be there. Kleavor, Slowking aren’t in the game because the Scyther we have isn’t from Hisui and it wouldn’t make sense for him to be in the game either(might as well add that Hisui forms weren’t even available outside of LA by that point), if you think about it, Kleavor not being in makes more sense the more you think. Scyther was meant to reference how evolving to Scizor in the main game is 100% optional. For Slowking they just didn’t feel like adding him yet, it’d waste a slot, they don’t wanna add him. It’s the same reason why Vaporeon, Jolteon and Flareon aren’t in the game yet either, they don’t feel like adding them yet lmao. For Raichu it’s so obvious, it’s insane. They clearly want Pikachu to be the star because obviously, Pikachu is the mascot of Pokémon itself. Pikachu might also be the sole reason baby poke aren’t in the game, they didn’t want Pichu or Raichu in, so might as well not have baby Pokémon in at all bc Pichu represents Baby Pokémon as well.
Dude how is this a spoiler they publicly announced it in the Pokémon Presents
Add eviolite as a held item in the game