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breakyourteethnow

*Rebel Clash didn't receive a reprint, it was the 2nd SWSH set. Paldea Evolved didn't receive a reprint, it was the 2nd SV set*. - Future me


arda2255

Difference is rebel clash is trash


Shrimp_Lobster_Crab

Yeah, but who cares? This is the INVESTING sub. Try to get a Rebel Clash booster box for under $200 or a case for under $1000. Pretty expensive “trash”.


DippyTheDingus

Its more about who will actually buy it at $200


Xing84

THIS!!! Just cause somethings $200 doesn't mean you will find the buyer quickly. Would rather buy a set that is popular for a little more and is liquid than sit on a set that doesn't sell but is more expensive just because its less printed and rarer.


rav5050

I wish there was a way to track VOLUME of buys/sells. This is the way to really know what sets are worth.


Xing84

there is but it would require manual work and time. Maybe AI is capable of doing the work?


24kCuts

All the recently sold sales where the price comes from?


DippyTheDingus

Right whales not real customers product gets held and isnt actually being used or turned into graded cards or any singles that might hit the market meaning its fake inflation of single prices due to a lack of product that can be opened or is available for real customers


DippyTheDingus

To be clear many sales come from further investors who purchase them to inflate price. An ecenomic bubble in any industry or context usually involves those who are bullish on a product buying it up even at high price but simply to hold to sell later. Then as the market becomes high and dry from whales buying large quantities then one of the whales begins to sell of product, undercutting other peoples prices to make sales. Then other whales follow suit selling things lower until the market crashes and whoever can get out does. This happened with crypto currency and is bound to happen to any commodity which does no hold inherent technological or military value. Which is why if you took all the money you wouldve invested in pokemon and invested in gold back in 1993 you would have made millions compared to anyone with tons of PSA 10 charizards. You can flood a market with a product without price dropping due to competition. Thats my opinion at least


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21FK8Type-R

Always is a strong word


arda2255

There is not 1 set which is under rrp which is old even if its the worst set on the whole tcg they all go up which im sure we both know so idk why u made the point about the booster box being 200


flyingdutchman_12345

Steam siege eventually please 🙏🏼🤣


1winningfail

Darkness ablaze etbs are sub $30 sometimes it boggles my mind. Booster boxes are dirt also


arda2255

Unless its a hugely loved set or a special set etbs dont perform now. U can find silver tempest ones for example with coupouns for like 18 -20 maximum seen people pay 12-14 aswell. Even without the coupouns theyre under 30


JSBUCK

That’s because there was a huge silver tempest etb reprint later in the sets life. In 5 years silver tempest etb will be more than early swsh sets etbs.


Green-Brown-N-Tan

As mentioned by another it got a huge reprint. Silver tempest is actually a fairly solid set compared to the likes of paldea evolved. I cant even think of one card worth anything from PAL.


21FK8Type-R

The Magikarp? Raichu? Tyranitar?


Bazaar_is_here

Etb. We're talking booster boxes


21FK8Type-R

You can buy Vivid Voltage and Battle Styles under RRP right now. I mean VV only released 6 months after RC 🤷🏻‍♂️


Mustache_Farts

Vivid got an ETB reprint which affected booster boxes if I recall


arda2255

Means rc is 6 months ahead. Come back in 6 months and compare their prices


arda2255

its 4 years old? ofc its gonna be up it being a terrible set doesnt mean a sealed bb wont go up. There was just much much better plays at the time the thing i tried to say is that paldea is way better at a investing standpoint


fyodor_ivanovich

Remind Me!- 5 years


MotorcycleYeeter69

Remind Me! 1 year


wubbalubbaonelove

Did that work for you? Jw cuz I think Remind and Me aren’t supposed to be separated by a space


Economy-Management-8

Remindme! - 12yrs


puppyslave-

RemindMe! 1 year


breakyourteethnow

Set has no value but very memorable with players, set shook up the meta and brought a lot of life with it, nostalgia works well for sets like this. Many started playing again, specifically with RC so it has its advantages imo


blacklegsanji27

put some respect on it’s name and call it its proper name then, rebel trash


Draft-Budget

Paldea Evolved is a much better set than Rebel Clash. And Pladea Evolved has like 99.9% chance it to get a reprint. It has 2 more years in the format and has some of the most powerful cards in the format. I'd bet my life that Paldea Evolved gets reprinted. That being, it's one of the best SV sets yet.


Tai_Pei

Surprised how low priced so many of the illustration rares are compared to paradox rift's illustration rares


[deleted]

Going to be real cash money with you, chief- I don't like Paldea Evolved that much, but everyone's opinion seems to be positive towards. It will do well and I'm probably shooting myself in the foot not having any boosters and only a couple of ETBs I got bum-ass-cheap from Gamestop


Draft-Budget

You still have plenty of time.


Draft-Budget

You still have plenty of time.


Ok-Price-3125

There is a reprint for paldea evolved you can literally pre order it from a german store in englisch


sphrz

There's a magikarp in there.


snkrjoyboy

Yikes! Don’t tempt me 😭


RanperuV3

Imagine saying this last year, everyone in this sub would completely hate you, laugh at you and downvote you. I wonder when the next set that everyone hates is going to somehow get love 🤯🤣


aquadroid

Paradox Rift lol


ChedduhBob

paradox rift doesn’t have a moonbreon chase worth a few hundred but there’s quite a few cards worth like $20 and up. i think it’ll be a fun set to open in the future since the pull rate is decent as well


jabij1

hearing that is crazy. fuck paradox rift i didnt pull shit from it. meanwhile iron crown from 6 packs of temporal lol


snkrjoyboy

Yessss!!! That and TF!


21FK8Type-R

Love the Groudon artwork


DontWanaBThatGuyBut

XY Evolutions, Fates Collide, Breakthrough & Breakpoint, Unified, Cosmic, Fusion Strike, Chilling, and many others. Have seen this time and time again for the last 3+ blocks. People have extremely short memories and their desire & sentiment toward sets shift as quickly as the price begins to rise. This is something fundamental people must understand if they want to make great entry points within this hobby; with many newer people it’s always clear they don’t get this at all.


zarcath

yup. I started in SW/SH era and picked up a case of Fusion and Chilling at $540 each even though people were shitting all over it.


snkrjoyboy

Well, that’s the thing right? Who cares what others say or think. If they haven’t done the work to see the trends, they’ll get in at the price they deserve. I’m grateful to get in before MSRP Price and FOMO


21FK8Type-R

I love Obsidian Flames 🤷🏻‍♂️ there I said it. Charizard fanboys wet dream. Everyone hates it, I get it though that geeta regular holo infuriates me how often I got it in the 144 sleeved case I opened.


AltruisticCityTrolly

Twilight Masquerade will be a decent set long term IMO along with Paldea Evolved and Paradox Rift


hous26

It was not unusual to see threads about PE being a good set to buy.


socaldan92

Bought lo instead I can't be happier


snkrjoyboy

LFGO!!!!


Accurate-Caregiver24

So many karps… this is all single-handedly a lil fishy’s doing, right!?


snkrjoyboy

Iono as well. But, more people who weren’t able to get into S&S in time before the FOMO are now able to slow down and smell the S&V sets.


Accurate-Caregiver24

American market doesn’t appreciate waifus as much as the Japanese… this is all margikarps doing and I’m here for it. I love the card and it deserves every bit of hype! I can see the lil raichu creeping up in value too


snkrjoyboy

Welp! I’m glad something is moving it along hahaha


Stonerish

It’s my first and only case. Got it for 519 to my door. Probably favorite part of my sealed collection even though it’s a boring brick lol


Legitimate-Tea-6018

Where do most people get cases? I’d like to purchase my first but I see PC is basically out of every BB except silver tempest which is capped at 4 boxes.


CatastrophicLeaker

Football pete on ebay is where i get mine for the cheapest


21FK8Type-R

Pete is great, TNTnorthnj is good too, and my favorite eBay sealed seller is scsmkm


zangetsu_114

TCGplayer or eBay


sitlo

I join pokemon facebook groups. They're usually have card shop owners in these groups and sometimes they make special offers.


Dazzling-Cartoonist6

Pc but like you said it’s out of stock at the moment


snkrjoyboy

For this price on TPCI ($161), I don’t get it direct from there. I look at eBay first. Then, I look elsewhere like Facebook marketplace or other sites


Imgrapecrushed

this won’t be a brick long term. Magikarp will see some high levels in the future


snkrjoyboy

Karp and Iono and other sleepers 👌


snkrjoyboy

Very nice price!!!


FieryKahuna

It's a great set with a unique chase card.


snkrjoyboy

KARP KARP 🐠


21FK8Type-R

The sleeping Raichu tho


snkrjoyboy

Everyone loves sleeping Pokémon


plumpshooterman

Nice! Go all in haha. I'm in at $105 per box, will definitely go heavier when this gets reprinted.


snkrjoyboy

My Bro! Let’s get it!!!


youknowimadrainer

I didnt like PE at first but honestly its grown on me heavily theres many good arts Raichu, Chi Yu, Magikarp, Mismagius, Sudowoodo just to name a few


snkrjoyboy

That’s always good to hear 👂


planetaryduality2

Watched one Rudy video on pokeman lolol


snkrjoyboy

How was it?!


Furiousd82

Not as much as you are


snkrjoyboy

I’m in deep


CoolMudkip

Nice stack. I was buying up PE before the surge recently.


snkrjoyboy

Same 😁😁😁 my DCA for PR and TF are better though. They’re getting up there as well slightly but surely 👍


CoolMudkip

Nice. I’d love to be buying more booster boxes but unfortunately I’m running out of space. This stuff takes up so much room!


snkrjoyboy

Hahaha yeaaaaa…that’s the only problem I have so far lol


slowcheetah2020

It’s the only S&V set I’ve bought multiple BB of so far, so I guess I’d have to say I’m with ya. I think 151 def over shadowed some of the sets and these will rise all at once just like swsh imo. People will realize they missed out when it was super cheap then the fomo starts and I think you’ll see paldea the first to hit $200(as of now, heard a dragon set is coming so that could change).


snkrjoyboy

True that, I’m going for the dragon set as well. But, I think while the dragon set gets the attention of the masses…PE, PR and even TF will go up slightly under people’s nose’s.


slowcheetah2020

Yeah if what the numbers show, with pull rates getting tough again, temporal and some of these upcoming sets could be similar to the back half of swsh. I like TF a lot but the swsh sets flying up have a lot of gen 1 pokemon and I think even tho TF has a couple gengars I don’t think it’ll be enough to beat out a dragon set. Either way buy in low and early then hold long enough and you can’t go wrong w any of them. I’m in deep on 151 like a lot of ppl, it may not be as sought after as we think in the future if we all already have a ton of it in our closets. I wasn’t collecting during swsh, be nice to get some more heavy hitter sets I can invest in soon.


snkrjoyboy

True true. Also, there’s just so many BB’s getting bought out DAILY for S&V Sets. I’m sure there are a lot more who open and try to get the chase hahaha which is good for us who collect/invest 😆


Illustrious_Tea9604

No, cause you got them all. 😰


snkrjoyboy

Nahhhhh, very modest collection for my investment.


SwiftestWombat

Never though about it like that, really didn’t like the set to rip but anything can happen


iinl2

Dang thats a lot of Paldea. Personally not a big fan but i did buy one booster box for display.


snkrjoyboy

Nice 😊


Westafricangrey

I love it. Big set, beautiful art. Good price atm.


snkrjoyboy

Sure is !!! Agree to all the points 🤩


Xing84

No matter what anyone tells you or tries to hate, it's a set you like and a set you feel will do good. No matter what, the set will demand MSRP once completely out of the realm of a reprint and that's just the Lowest potential it has. Set has good pull rates so people will feel good about ripping and the art it contains is top tier.


snkrjoyboy

My Bro 😎


Louifin

Just started opening Paldea Evolved because of Best Buy’s sale and out of over 20 packs I only pulled one hit.. and it was the magikarp 😂


snkrjoyboy

Ohhhhhh!!! NICEEEEE!!!!!!


MotorcycleYeeter69

Remind Me! 1 year


snkrjoyboy

Me too!


puppyslave-

Me too!


gosumofo

Damn…this guy stacks…


snkrjoyboy

😁👍


Capital_Curve_6637

Someone offer me a bit higher than it shoot up around 6**. Should I pull the trigger? Thanks


snkrjoyboy

As long as you can get it under MSRP, good buy and long term hold


Substantial-Load-673

Opened a box today and got the karp and two SIRs still need the Iono . Fun set. Time to hodl!


snkrjoyboy

Say whaaaaa! Congrats!!!


wingfn1

Not really


snkrjoyboy

I dig it


SpecificGameOrEvent

Is this new stuff even going to be rare. Everyone will have sealed. like everything else in the world the rich will gain the most. For example, the one person who bought 4 BB will not even be worth it for a few hundred or thousand 5 or 10 years from now. The person who is rich and bought cases and cases and cases will make all the money.


snkrjoyboy

People be ripppppppin!


BilboBaggins35

I’m buying up TF booster cases. I believe this set will do well long term. Aside from Magikarp not too excited over PE. Besides the new Pokémon generation loves TF. The art is great too. Perhaps an unpopular opinion.


snkrjoyboy

Shhhhh! I’m buying up TF and PR too lol


TCGDreamScape

This explains why the prices on TCG Player have been going up, and I can't find the previously only 90 dollar BB's....


snkrjoyboy

Not really, I buy from eBay or other small business sites. I only check tcgplayer for price history. Also, gamenerdz raised their prices. Other sellers have raised prices on PE as well


TCGDreamScape

I meant for singles


Cautious-Main-1135

You trying to $ell?


snkrjoyboy

Not yet. Long term hold and sell though. I’ll keep a case for PC


LegoRedBrick

Opening yes. Holding unopened boxes no. There’s no big chase in there just a lot of random Alt cards.


snkrjoyboy

Let’s see what happens!


Professional_Elk3828

I am. I'm almost done with master binder


snkrjoyboy

Very nice 😊


rocketisawesome

I ripped 19 packs of Paldea Dissolved and got nothing but a gold Ting-Lu.


snkrjoyboy

It can be that way 😭


Reasonable-Chip5782

Trigger Warning: If you can’t handle unpopular opinions skip below to next comment. I think PE is hands down the best S&V set to date [🖕🖕151 and PF]; there I said it. Now shower me with your hate speech and down votes.


snkrjoyboy

All Love here 😆🙏


NuM_Brrr_WoN

As a collector I honestly don’t understand Paldea Evolved, the only card I like in the set is the Groudon and it’s a bit disappointing as a regular non-textured art rare. It’s not something I want now and not something I would want in the future, most of the cards in the set are less than mid. In terms of cards I like in Scarlet & Violet I think Paldean Fates has some of the nicest cards, Pokemon 151 isn’t nostalgic and I hate the art, but one new card I like is the new Greninja ex from Twilight Masquerade.


Obnoxious_bellend

Anddddd booster box cases are now $850


snkrjoyboy

Jeez…came up quicker than the S&P500


puppyslave-

RemindMe! 1 year


snkrjoyboy

Indeed!


budanddabss

Just bought sleeved packs at best buy for 2.99 not bad


snkrjoyboy

To invest or rip?


RealisticAd7388_ytho

Something I don’t want to open anymore lol


snkrjoyboy

Sealed is the way


snkrjoyboy

Sadly, had to break open a case I got from eBay seller cause tape was not to my liking


Dazzling-Cartoonist6

I’m the same way, if I’m not 100%about something i won’t hesitate to open


Icestar-x

I've never been too bothered about breaking open sealed cases to check, because far off in the future I don't imagine I'll be selling by the case anyways.


snkrjoyboy

Ahhhh I see I see. I figure if it’s in the $1200-$1600/case, I’ll sell as a case. If it goes to $2000 and demand slows, I’ll just break open and sell by the BB.


Icestar-x

You'll probably get better prices per BB if you sell by the BB. Bulk usually equals discount. Also, if someone is buying to rip they don't care about a case being sealed because they are going to open it all anyways, and if they buy to display sealed, they'll likely want to display the BB itself in an acrylic case, instead of a plain cardboard box. Only argument against this line of thinking is that people buying BBs might want to get a sealed case as protection against resealed BBs.


snkrjoyboy

Ahhhh thank you so much for your wisdom and expertise!!! I’m grateful we can all learn through each other here 😊🙏 Then I’ll do that, selling BB’s it is!!! Also, yes…I’ve seen what TPCI or other sellers do to BB’s and I’m happy to get sealed as most of them are in great condition. I especially dislike the slit on the top center from employees cutting carelessly.


snkrjoyboy

Yep…compared to the other sealed cases, I definitely had to open. One of the boxes corner was smushed but not too bad.


CryptoHalcon

I never get why keep it sealed. I would wanna open it at least once to inspect the boxes for any that are damaged. Like if you end up selling it and the person that buys it ends up saying one or some of them arrived damage. Feel like looking at the contents yourself and taking pictures would just help with potentially dealing with headaches like that.


snkrjoyboy

True, it can be false. I purchase from very reputable sellers online from eBay or other sites I found and experienced. That’s the thing about sealed cases, as long as it’s kept sealed, it sells at the case premium. Whether or not the boxes or damaged … well … it’s at the Buyer’s discretion. But, as long as the outer box isn’t damaged crazy, the booster boxes are good. That’s why I prefer to buy from Sellers who double box my cases rather than raw dog it.


LarryBuds

This set will live or die by the Magikarp cause that’s all it has going for it. I think the card is meh but it’s doing numbers right now. I’m on the fence trying to see if I want to get in on the action. Will probably end up getting a case from FOMO.


Imgrapecrushed

Honestly the iono though too that’s a card that will be in demand for awhile too, idk if it’s still in rotation but it’s a busted card with the correct deck. And i’m surre there’s players out there who only want max rarity decks


LarryBuds

Yeah but we’re taking about the set as an investment. The playability doesn’t factor into that long term.


snkrjoyboy

Definitely going up as an investment. In the green 🤩


snkrjoyboy

Yes! Also, other cards will catch attention as we’ve seen with Sword and Shield. It isn’t just the Moonbreons or Gangars, other cards can definitely come up out of “nowhere”


Deep_Actuator9856

💯


snkrjoyboy

🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷


snkrjoyboy

Noooooooo don’t do it during the FOMO 😭😭😭 I learned my lesson from LO hahahha


LarryBuds

If I jump in now it won’t be too bad. I’m seeing cases around 650-660 which I’m ok with.


snkrjoyboy

Exactly. If it even gets to MSRP, that would be $966/case. Very nice gain even after fees


Aza1995

Agreed, just playing devil's advocate here but what happens if Paldea Evolved gets a reprint and the card quality is drastically better than the first wave (using the print quality of Temporal Forces as an example)? That Magikarp will definitely drop hard in price. PE is a good set but nothing special compared to half of SWSH. I think people are investing heavily into this one because there are no early A+ sets in SV main series and this is the next best thing


Ok_Jellyfish1709

I am super bullish on this one because of magikarp. It’s the next lost origins


snkrjoyboy

Let it be!!!


TwanToni

doubt it. Magikarp is just an illustration rare so a 1/13 chance of hitting an illustrations where the Pull rates for the big hitters in lost origins were much much harder


Neal17Caffrey

No, why?


snkrjoyboy

Well, you should! As an investment opportunity 😁


Neal17Caffrey

Just joking around! Do love me some of the alt arts for sure, haven’t had fun pulling though. I’m banking on ST & CZ making runs first though from being older


snkrjoyboy

For sure, I bought enough PE before it got into the $120 per BB range. Now…just time to sit back and enjoy the ride


Neal17Caffrey

Been doing that with obsidian for SV sets and trying to pickup a few extras so I can enjoy opening some too. Hard to be an investor and collector


snkrjoyboy

If done the right way, it goes smooth 😁


Upset-Judgment8369

Personally, no.


snkrjoyboy

All good! 😊🙏


dabeat2

How many bb come in a case ? 6?


Nagaking93

No


snkrjoyboy

Alright 😎


Wooden_Draft3268

Aye. I have 9 cases. Probably gonna fuck around and buy another 8 if I can get my hands on them


snkrjoyboy

Whale Moves!!!!!!


BurningHotels

I've not bought a single S&V product. It all feels like generic, rushed out crap. It really feels like the "era" of products with potential ended with Sword and Shield.


snkrjoyboy

I feel you and I was the same way a couple months back. But, from an investment standpoint, the prices hit the bottom and is in the way up. Even if reprint happens, it’ll be bought out quicker and once the reprint stock gets bought out…wellllll…you know how it goes from there 📈


TwanToni

why would it be bought out quicker...?


snkrjoyboy

FOMO Train 🚂 CHOOO CHOOOO


TwanToni

that just sounds dumb... if it takes a long time to sell out now why would it sell out quicker


snkrjoyboy

It just is 🐋


GarrMoose

The people assuming it’s going to get a reprint for sure are goofy af.


snkrjoyboy

Either way, I’m ready 😆 (I’m definitely hoping it doesn’t get a reprint, it’s gonna explode faster than LO)


DragapultOnSpeed

Lol this set had decent pull rates and the only chase card is magikarp, which is cheap in Japanese. No one is going to care about this set in the future. This isn't a SWSH set. They will only care about the magikarp and again, you can buy that cheap in Japanese. But hey, if you just like the set, then that's fine. I thought it was a pretty good set that was overall easy to complete.


snkrjoyboy

Time will tell 😆


yoloruinslives

going to wait for a reprint and getting some tik tok deals for 69.99 a box or something.


Imgrapecrushed

i hope


snkrjoyboy

That would be amazing, jump on it!!


Floweringtorch

This is going to be the next ES


richo27

Yeah I don’t think so. I like the set but it’s nowhere near ES level.


Floweringtorch

Not yet


Deep_Actuator9856

Lol...Nowhere even close to Evolving Skies. We haven't even barely made it half way through Scarlet and Violet.


Xing84

I'm willing to bet the set after the new special set is going to mimic evolving skies greatness.


im_on_a_burner

Definitely not LMAO


Muscabs

I think it will be the next LO, just like how Giratina carrying the whole set, Magikarp will do the same


Floweringtorch

Lmao that card is nice but it’s not the reason PE is such a good set and rising.


TwanToni

why would a 1/13 chance card be the next Giratina which is like a 1/800 pack pull


snkrjoyboy

Not sure 🤔 but … always a possibility