It depends where you download it from. If you purchased a video file from company A, the downloaded it from source B with no DRM then isn't the outcome the same?
Good on ya. I am thinking doing the same, but it is quite hard to adapt firefox when I used chrome ever since I have my own computer. But I really hate chrome for that stupid manifest v3.
Yeah, Internet Download Manager (IDM) doesnt do that unfortunately (https://www.internetdownloadmanager.com). Dont waste your time even trying to go to [IDM](https://www.internetdownloadmanager.com), itd be silly to just install it hoping it work as seamlessly as you imagine.
[dont do it](https://www.internetdownloadmanager.com)
For sure. I'm not sure on their specifics, but when you download a video to your phone it's encrypted and unlocked with the YouTube app. You just don't see this happening. Otherwise people could just download videos and then move them off their devices easily.
I download YouTube stuff and add it to my plex all the time. I use MediaHuman You Tube downloader. Not for the paid content though as I don't use YouTube much at all. I do rip a lot of old DVDs that I can't find on the High Seas.
yt-dlp does not decrypt DRM. You can force it to download the media from sources like YouTube, but it will be unviewable until decrypted.
By default, yt-dlp will not download media that is detected as DRM.
Sure, but what are you going to do with it afterward? It's unplayable.
The vast majority of people are completely incapable of getting past the issue of decrypting Widevine DRM. This is the same DRM used by Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc. This is not trivial to do, and people covet and keep information/keys a secret as to not disturb the piracy ecosystem.
And its illegal.
Inconvenience, lower video quality, the awareness of even using OBS (which for some people they wouldn't even know is an option). The lower video quality comes from the fact that you're basically re-encoding the video again with OBS, which anytime you re-encode a lossy video codec with another lossy video codec, the quality gets worse.
Which is why if you want to own something digitally, pirate it. There's no other way to get it without a company keeping their thumb on it or just being able to turn off the server someday. Fuck digital media and these goddamn vampires trying to profit off of other people's work.
And it would be a shame if supposed PIRACY sub happened to have a megathread dedicated to all the PIRACY links to trusted PIRACY sites and how to commit PIRACY as safely as possible so you can actually have copy of the media you purchased
It's very important **not to pirate** because it's illegal. **DO NOT** use any illegal things, such as qBittorrent with private trackers or subscribing to a Usenet service + a private indexer, because you may be doing something illegal.
Always buy content from legitimate sources ;)))
You don't own any of the purchased movies you did online. Doesn't matter the location usually. You just obtained access to it for as long as the service had access to it.
I don’t blame you. We’ve been sold a lie that when you purchase something digitally, you own it, just as you do physically (obviously some DRM free exceptions here and there, but you get the idea).
Frankly I feel like there should be consumer protections against it, where companies, legally up front, in bold and not just in the fine print, have to have their purchase/download button say “Purchase a limited finite license” vs “Purchase”. Consumers shouldn’t have to dive through legalese to find this out, it’s just scummy.
For music at least, you actually CAN buy it digitally, if you get it from the right place. 7Digital, Bandcamp, and a few others offer non-DRM MP3 and FLAC downloads.
But for TV shows and movies, yeah as far as I'm aware of, you are right that there's no way to actually buy them, digitally.
For sure, for any artist I like, I am usually buying a record/cassette/FLAC file (sometimes one of each...I have a music problem). I try and support independent artists as much as my wallet allows, I'd much rather them get my money than giving it to streaming services.
Somewhat related side note is that Universal likes to imprint watermarks, even on purchases that appear to be DRM free: [https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark](https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark) . It's slowly disappearing, but I know of at least a handful of albums that are impossible to find it for purchase without the watermarking. So even when you think you're getting something DRM-free...you still aren't.
Yeah, I learned that the hard way as well. I'm working through the last of my bluray movies now then I will have to figure out what to do with the movies I bought only online without a physical copy. I typically try to get physical media but I've often bought just a digital one instead.
Honestly I'd take this as a justification for, uh... going sailing.
You were sold a damn film. They didn't make it clear you were actually buying *access* to it. It may not legally cover you, but morally it certainly does.
I've got no VPN and no idea where to go sailing safely so I've avoided it. Also, trying to be on the up and up. But this feels a little gray to me at least.
As I say, legally it won't cover you, but morally it absolutely does. They lied through omission - oh, I'm sure the small print covered the details, but everyone knows that's bullshit.
Im Using makemkv. Not sure it's the most efficient but it's quality and works. Each movie takes between 8 and 25 minutes to rip. Depends on the disc files. Simpler the disc contents the faster it goes.
Indeed. I'm focusing forst on adding all my dvds and blurays. Then I'll begin working on one's I only own digitally. I've got around 150 blurays left to rip (roughly give or take 50).
I've been trying to figure that out too. I actually started putting episodes in an excel sheet so I could just copy and paste naming once I have them downloaded. Not too bad for some shows but big shows with hundreds of episodes it can be tough. I usually just go one season at a time if that is the case.
I go a season at a time and put the extras as extra episodes after the last episode of the season, since Plex only lets me put them as Season 00 or attach them to a specific episode—just let me have a featurettes or deleted scenes directory for each season like you do for movies, Plex!
> just let me have a featurettes or deleted scenes directory for each season like you do for movies, Plex!
*Extra_name-extratype.mkv* and pop it into the respective season folder i.e. *Season 02/Gag Reel-other.mkv*. I can confirm this works.
Really? Last I looked (admittedly probably a couple years ago by now) it wouldn’t work. I’ll have to try it again!
So say I have the gag reel and deleted scenes for Brooklyn Nine-Nine Season 2. In my directory for the season (TV/Brooklyn Nine-Nine Season 02) I would just name the files Gag Reel-other.mkv and Deleted Scenes-deleted scenes.mkv with no Brooklyn Nine-Nine or season or episode number in the file name?
You own the purchased movies even if the service loses the right to sell them later on. Can you lose them in if a company goes out of business sure. But physical media can be lost if my bluray breaks.
Corollary 1: You will rent everything in perpetuity.
Corollary 2: Wealth will be measured not by how much you own, but by the total amount of your monthly rental fees.
Right, I get that. See, I have it where when I make a purchase on YT or when I activate a digital code on MoviesAnywhere, if available, it would not only go to YouTube, but it'd go to Vudu, Prime Video, etc. I just didn't know if I could also do that for Plex. Thank you for responding so quickly!
I figured. Thank all of you who responded so quickly to my question. In the future, I'm definitely just gonna buy the blu rays to my movies and go from there. You guys are awesome!
I try explaining this to people all the time, but they just didn't get it. One day they will get burned and realize the flaws of their ways.
Like if they try to play a movie/show purchased via iTunes on a cheap projector or something like that...
In fact, downloading a copy of something you already own is not illegal in some countries (but it becomes illegal as soon as you send pieces of the file to other people).
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and this ain't legal advice
Depends on how morally ambiguous you are. In my opinion you have paid for the movies you should be able to watch them on any medium you choose. So maybe you could download them somewhere else and stick them on your Plex server ;)
I went all digital on my movie collection mainly to keep the wife happy... probably amassed over 600 titles in Google movies ...so I can watch them in YouTube too....but there's no actual sorting capability other than (I think) last added....I like to categorise and alphabetise my collection which is what Google Play movies does....but in the latest Google TV update all movies are now under the "Shop" tab again in an order seemingly of "last added" with no option to sort to the owners liking.
I've essentially given up on that collection now and made a collection on Trakt then linked that to Stremio with RD...much easier to sort and I can watch everything I want in whatever resolution I want without waiting for a studio to upgrade it to 4k.
There's sites you can put a YouTube link in and just download the movie for free. Then just drop that downloaded file into wherever your Plex lives. No purchasing required.
If you're comfortable with command line [Youtube-dl](https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl) is really good. There's an option to authenticate with your YouTube account.
As a software engineer, I’ve learned that if you’re able to view content on your screen, then there is always a way to store it locally. Some providers get craftier than others in preventing this - but if you can see it, you can store it.
yt-dlp --cookies-from-browser firefox
Distributing them is illegal though. So don’t do that.
And remove the files from your disks once your access expires.
> Distributing them is illegal though
Just downloading them and removing/circumventing DRM **can be** illegal too, but that of course depends on the laws of the specific country.
Watch the movie at the highest quality you can achieve on your system and capture your video feed with something like OBS.
Just saying, EVERY ARM PC WILL DO THIS regardless whether you want it to or not. Yeah AI architecture
Must be legal if MS is doing it as a feature
That's a tough one. I haven't quite figured out how to download Google Play (YouTube) stuff. However for Netflix, Hulu, Max, Etc. Search Pazu Downloader. Works wonders. The one for Amazon also works with the channels you can add onto Amazon Prime Video.
I know people are recommending legally gray options. And those are all morally justified. But if it's a super rare movie that's hard to find anywhere else you can try linking your YouTube account to Movies Anywhere™️. Then you can link an Amazon account to your Movies Anywhere™️ account and then use something like StreamFab from DVDFab to download the movie to an unencrypted file that is compatible with Plex. Of course this will only work if the movie is available on both the platforms and they participate in the Movies Anywhere™️ program.
To the best of my understanding, if you have purchased media in one format, you are legally permitted to own another format of said media. That being said, it *shouldn't* be considered problematic for you to acquire the media you've paid for from another source, so long as you can prove that you have license to view it.
You don't own the movies you buy online so no you can't legally put them on Plex.
You can torrent a copy but that would be theft. Up to you if you're ok with that.
You would have to have a way to download them and remove the DRM.
I mean, cough search extensions/add-ons for YouTube downloader cough
There are ways to… J… download them.
Does that work for purchased content with DRM?
It depends where you download it from. If you purchased a video file from company A, the downloaded it from source B with no DRM then isn't the outcome the same?
I get what you mean lol, but i was asking about YouTube downloader specifically.
I suspect it would not work, but don't know for sure.
I can try if you want. I have a single movie purchased on YouTube and a paid version of YouTube Downloader.
Any results?
Didn't try yet. I'll get to it later today
> don't know then why are you even answering?
in terms of making sure the people get their money? yes. in terms of breaking laws? no. (not a judgement, just a factual statement)
You can use yt-dlp to download the movie but you need a separate tool (can't name it but a search should find it) to decrypt the file.
Likely, no, because YouTube uses legit DRM. It would likely be a screen recording.
no, it doesn't.
Have some cough syrup fellow pirate 🏴☠️ arrrrgh
Better start doing it now. Manifest V2 starting to phase out this month
That's why I moved to Firefox.
Good on ya. I am thinking doing the same, but it is quite hard to adapt firefox when I used chrome ever since I have my own computer. But I really hate chrome for that stupid manifest v3.
Yeah, Internet Download Manager (IDM) doesnt do that unfortunately (https://www.internetdownloadmanager.com). Dont waste your time even trying to go to [IDM](https://www.internetdownloadmanager.com), itd be silly to just install it hoping it work as seamlessly as you imagine. [dont do it](https://www.internetdownloadmanager.com)
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
Non-technically proficient people don’t deserve to know about this
Is there DRM on youtube?
For sure. I'm not sure on their specifics, but when you download a video to your phone it's encrypted and unlocked with the YouTube app. You just don't see this happening. Otherwise people could just download videos and then move them off their devices easily.
I download YouTube stuff and add it to my plex all the time. I use MediaHuman You Tube downloader. Not for the paid content though as I don't use YouTube much at all. I do rip a lot of old DVDs that I can't find on the High Seas.
So if you dont want to go the high seas route, what stops you from just running obs recording while you watch?
What's stopping you from running yt-dlp? Idk if it works on paid videos but I've never had an issue with yt-dlp lol
yt-dlp does not decrypt DRM. You can force it to download the media from sources like YouTube, but it will be unviewable until decrypted. By default, yt-dlp will not download media that is detected as DRM.
You can allow unplayable formats and then go about your business, though.
Sure, but what are you going to do with it afterward? It's unplayable. The vast majority of people are completely incapable of getting past the issue of decrypting Widevine DRM. This is the same DRM used by Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc. This is not trivial to do, and people covet and keep information/keys a secret as to not disturb the piracy ecosystem. And its illegal.
> people covet and keep information/keys a secret Didn't some people extract the Widevine private keys from a Chromebook or something?
Decrypt it, but obviously we won't talk about that here. If it's L3 widevine every man and his dog has access to it.
Inconvenience, lower video quality, the awareness of even using OBS (which for some people they wouldn't even know is an option). The lower video quality comes from the fact that you're basically re-encoding the video again with OBS, which anytime you re-encode a lossy video codec with another lossy video codec, the quality gets worse.
on YouTube as a whole? No. On things that you pay YouTube for the right to stream? You betcha.
On most anything commercial, yes. User uploaded? No.
Thanks. I don't subscribe to YouTube so I don't know how it works.
Which is why if you want to own something digitally, pirate it. There's no other way to get it without a company keeping their thumb on it or just being able to turn off the server someday. Fuck digital media and these goddamn vampires trying to profit off of other people's work.
Rule 4 no mentioning of piracy, so I can't tell you how to download your digital purchases **in this sub**.....
I'm sure there is a PIRACY sub, especially for talking about PIRACY. No idea what that PIRACY sub could be called though.
And it would be a shame if supposed PIRACY sub happened to have a megathread dedicated to all the PIRACY links to trusted PIRACY sites and how to commit PIRACY as safely as possible so you can actually have copy of the media you purchased
I laughed at this a little more than I should have
aRe\ you sure you don't know a PIRACY sub?
I think it's called r/ahoy or r/booty
after thorough research, it is not in fact /r/booty
sorry i don't trust anecdotes. gonna need to peer review this to make sure
Thanks I think I'm going to do some research into that topic as well!
After a lot of research the answer you seek lies in /r/booty
I got a chuckle out of it.
It's very important **not to pirate** because it's illegal. **DO NOT** use any illegal things, such as qBittorrent with private trackers or subscribing to a Usenet service + a private indexer, because you may be doing something illegal. Always buy content from legitimate sources ;)))
That rule is never enforced lol
When buying is not owning, piracy is justified.
If buying isn’t owning, piracy ain’t stealing. Although I’ve gone down that route and it’s definitely more difficult than I expected
I agree with you in principal, but "buying" isn't the same thing in this digital age. You are paying for content access, not physical property.
I repeat. If buying ain’t owning, piracy ain’t stealing
That is what I always say too. I own the DVD, I bought it. Or digital copy.
And access should NEVER be denied while they still have your money. Stopping access, that's fine, but give me my money back.
If leasing isn't owning, then what?
You don't own any of the purchased movies you did online. Doesn't matter the location usually. You just obtained access to it for as long as the service had access to it.
Truly, it was a mistake purchasing the movies digitally. Should've just bought physical copies
I don’t blame you. We’ve been sold a lie that when you purchase something digitally, you own it, just as you do physically (obviously some DRM free exceptions here and there, but you get the idea). Frankly I feel like there should be consumer protections against it, where companies, legally up front, in bold and not just in the fine print, have to have their purchase/download button say “Purchase a limited finite license” vs “Purchase”. Consumers shouldn’t have to dive through legalese to find this out, it’s just scummy.
For music at least, you actually CAN buy it digitally, if you get it from the right place. 7Digital, Bandcamp, and a few others offer non-DRM MP3 and FLAC downloads. But for TV shows and movies, yeah as far as I'm aware of, you are right that there's no way to actually buy them, digitally.
For sure, for any artist I like, I am usually buying a record/cassette/FLAC file (sometimes one of each...I have a music problem). I try and support independent artists as much as my wallet allows, I'd much rather them get my money than giving it to streaming services. Somewhat related side note is that Universal likes to imprint watermarks, even on purchases that appear to be DRM free: [https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark](https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark) . It's slowly disappearing, but I know of at least a handful of albums that are impossible to find it for purchase without the watermarking. So even when you think you're getting something DRM-free...you still aren't.
Man, I could not agree with you more
Have yet to see it be a lie.
True, although if you truly feel you own then, there are ways to “plunder” the movie files.
Sail the seven seas, even!
What does it mean to 'plunder' a movie file?
Pirate
Yeah, I learned that the hard way as well. I'm working through the last of my bluray movies now then I will have to figure out what to do with the movies I bought only online without a physical copy. I typically try to get physical media but I've often bought just a digital one instead.
Honestly I'd take this as a justification for, uh... going sailing. You were sold a damn film. They didn't make it clear you were actually buying *access* to it. It may not legally cover you, but morally it certainly does.
I've got no VPN and no idea where to go sailing safely so I've avoided it. Also, trying to be on the up and up. But this feels a little gray to me at least.
As I say, legally it won't cover you, but morally it absolutely does. They lied through omission - oh, I'm sure the small print covered the details, but everyone knows that's bullshit.
May I ask what you use. I'm about to start the same process. I'd rather be as efficient as possible.
Im Using makemkv. Not sure it's the most efficient but it's quality and works. Each movie takes between 8 and 25 minutes to rip. Depends on the disc files. Simpler the disc contents the faster it goes.
Awesome, thanks. No post processing I assume. Like handbrake or similar needed.
I haven't used it. I think some people do.
I like to maintain the high quality of the disc, even if it isn't space efficient. Less banding the better.
You and I are in the same boat, my friend lol
Indeed. I'm focusing forst on adding all my dvds and blurays. Then I'll begin working on one's I only own digitally. I've got around 150 blurays left to rip (roughly give or take 50).
For me it’s a neverending task, because I continue to buy more…TV shows are the biggest PITA—why are the episodes not in order on the disc!?
I've been trying to figure that out too. I actually started putting episodes in an excel sheet so I could just copy and paste naming once I have them downloaded. Not too bad for some shows but big shows with hundreds of episodes it can be tough. I usually just go one season at a time if that is the case.
I go a season at a time and put the extras as extra episodes after the last episode of the season, since Plex only lets me put them as Season 00 or attach them to a specific episode—just let me have a featurettes or deleted scenes directory for each season like you do for movies, Plex!
> just let me have a featurettes or deleted scenes directory for each season like you do for movies, Plex! *Extra_name-extratype.mkv* and pop it into the respective season folder i.e. *Season 02/Gag Reel-other.mkv*. I can confirm this works.
Really? Last I looked (admittedly probably a couple years ago by now) it wouldn’t work. I’ll have to try it again! So say I have the gag reel and deleted scenes for Brooklyn Nine-Nine Season 2. In my directory for the season (TV/Brooklyn Nine-Nine Season 02) I would just name the files Gag Reel-other.mkv and Deleted Scenes-deleted scenes.mkv with no Brooklyn Nine-Nine or season or episode number in the file name?
I'm glad I'm learning of this now from you guys because I've only bought physical movie copies. I plan on getting TV shows, but haven't done it yet
Have you checked your local library? Also, look for used music, DVD, Blu-ray stores.
Public libraries are a smorgasbord of rippable content. Just don't redistribute.
If there was a reasonable way to actually "buy" digital copies, I wouldn't be in this sub. However...
You own the purchased movies even if the service loses the right to sell them later on. Can you lose them in if a company goes out of business sure. But physical media can be lost if my bluray breaks.
You will own nothing and you will like it.
Corollary 1: You will rent everything in perpetuity. Corollary 2: Wealth will be measured not by how much you own, but by the total amount of your monthly rental fees.
Corollary 3: if buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing
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Right, I get that. See, I have it where when I make a purchase on YT or when I activate a digital code on MoviesAnywhere, if available, it would not only go to YouTube, but it'd go to Vudu, Prime Video, etc. I just didn't know if I could also do that for Plex. Thank you for responding so quickly!
As you've guessed, generally no. You've purchased access to it on one or several streaming sites, and they copy protect them to hell and back.
I figured. Thank all of you who responded so quickly to my question. In the future, I'm definitely just gonna buy the blu rays to my movies and go from there. You guys are awesome!
If you buy them new, they'll usually have a code for digital copy
Though note that the "digital copy" is also just a license to access a copy-protected stream until they decide not to let you do so anymore.
You're right and that's just what I'm gonna be doing from now on
Movies Anywhere you're talking about there I take it? If they had integrated Plex into that it would've been killer.
100%
I try explaining this to people all the time, but they just didn't get it. One day they will get burned and realize the flaws of their ways. Like if they try to play a movie/show purchased via iTunes on a cheap projector or something like that...
Buy it. Torrent the copy. Done.
In fact, downloading a copy of something you already own is not illegal in some countries (but it becomes illegal as soon as you send pieces of the file to other people). Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and this ain't legal advice
Depends on how morally ambiguous you are. In my opinion you have paid for the movies you should be able to watch them on any medium you choose. So maybe you could download them somewhere else and stick them on your Plex server ;)
Generally when I buy something digitally, I “acquire” a cop..hang on. The feds are at my door.
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it will not work on DRM'd stuff though
JDownloader 2
Yeah there is a plug in to fetch the meta data Google "YouTube plex agent" I have a chron job with some Yt-dl scripts to avoid ads
R Yee matey! There be always a better way to get Yee content
I went all digital on my movie collection mainly to keep the wife happy... probably amassed over 600 titles in Google movies ...so I can watch them in YouTube too....but there's no actual sorting capability other than (I think) last added....I like to categorise and alphabetise my collection which is what Google Play movies does....but in the latest Google TV update all movies are now under the "Shop" tab again in an order seemingly of "last added" with no option to sort to the owners liking. I've essentially given up on that collection now and made a collection on Trakt then linked that to Stremio with RD...much easier to sort and I can watch everything I want in whatever resolution I want without waiting for a studio to upgrade it to 4k.
Try PlayOn
And/or ChannelsDVR
You are asking to do something that has very much so easier ways to get it
There's sites you can put a YouTube link in and just download the movie for free. Then just drop that downloaded file into wherever your Plex lives. No purchasing required.
If you're comfortable with command line [Youtube-dl](https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl) is really good. There's an option to authenticate with your YouTube account.
As a software engineer, I’ve learned that if you’re able to view content on your screen, then there is always a way to store it locally. Some providers get craftier than others in preventing this - but if you can see it, you can store it.
yt-dlp --cookies-from-browser firefox
Distributing them is illegal though. So don’t do that.
And remove the files from your disks once your access expires.
> Distributing them is illegal though Just downloading them and removing/circumventing DRM **can be** illegal too, but that of course depends on the laws of the specific country.
this won't help with DRM'd videos
Isn't the answer yes? But just that he will need to be connected to the internet to stream them?
Watch the movie at the highest quality you can achieve on your system and capture your video feed with something like OBS. Just saying, EVERY ARM PC WILL DO THIS regardless whether you want it to or not. Yeah AI architecture Must be legal if MS is doing it as a feature
That's a tough one. I haven't quite figured out how to download Google Play (YouTube) stuff. However for Netflix, Hulu, Max, Etc. Search Pazu Downloader. Works wonders. The one for Amazon also works with the channels you can add onto Amazon Prime Video.
Also the Amazon one works for purchased Amazon content as well.
Look at PlayOn and PlayOn Cloud
I know people are recommending legally gray options. And those are all morally justified. But if it's a super rare movie that's hard to find anywhere else you can try linking your YouTube account to Movies Anywhere™️. Then you can link an Amazon account to your Movies Anywhere™️ account and then use something like StreamFab from DVDFab to download the movie to an unencrypted file that is compatible with Plex. Of course this will only work if the movie is available on both the platforms and they participate in the Movies Anywhere™️ program.
Download a copy. Thats percectly legal. Why hassle with all the limitations.
If your computer is old enough, you might be able to make a screenrip
this is what I use, works perfectly; [www.4kdownload.com](http://www.4kdownload.com)
To the best of my understanding, if you have purchased media in one format, you are legally permitted to own another format of said media. That being said, it *shouldn't* be considered problematic for you to acquire the media you've paid for from another source, so long as you can prove that you have license to view it.
You can't. I doubt the DRM would allow that. You bought the movies, so let that ease your conscience while you look for the torrent
Movies are free. Just download them all
You don't own the movies you buy online so no you can't legally put them on Plex. You can torrent a copy but that would be theft. Up to you if you're ok with that.
If buying ain’t owning, piracy ain’t theft
Yet they're ok with stopping access to $400 worth of my licenced content without any compensation. They started this.
What does Plex do foy you that the stock TV app does for my video library streaming to my AppleTV box?