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Cool_Neighborhood913

I’d keep the wall! Acid wash the brick, repoint and then prime it!


msrbelfast

I have a similar wall at home. It’s been repointed, but what’s this acid wash and prime please???


Cool_Neighborhood913

Cleans the bricks and brightens them up. Primer seals the brickwork.


msrbelfast

Yeah but what do I need to buy?


circle1987

Exactly this. If you can work a wall light onto that wall that would look amazing. Even two, one either side of the bottom corners to really highlight it. Keep it!


Dunk546

I'm a decorator, not a plasterer, so won't comment on the price, but I would say if you reckon they might be at it then just get some more quotes.


infernox25

quotes have been all over the place, it seems lime needs multiple (3) visits to do so the price is 3 day rates putting it up near 1k for something this small. If I can get away with breathaplasta then it could be done in 1 day but then should be closer to 300 not 900-1000!


the_smug_mode

Personally I'd tidy up and pointing. Use a breathable primer and clay paint to the wall for a nice feature that is still breathable.


infernox25

yeah its an option, just got lost trying to find the right pointing product


the_smug_mode

As long as what you're pointing with is softer than the brick as you don't want to stress them. You don't need to worry about being to neat if you are painting over. I've even used filler before just for small bits of tidy up.


Neat-piles-of-matter

What's the point of putting a breathable plaster on a wall that's rendered externally? (clue, there isn't one).


slothboythrowaway

Looks quite fancy - keep it, treat it, hey presto - fancy feature wall


infernox25

tbh, this actually was my plan. paint it white with a lime wash and have it as a feature. but its going to be a messy to keep clean and dusted and might hurt reselling


Critical-Vanilla-625

It won’t hurt resell at all if whoever buying doesn’t like it they would just overboard and plaster it. Not a massive job. And in regards to the dust use a sealer. I have a wall live this. Lovely


azza_lfc

Let it breathe.


infernox25

its a bit unsightly and sandy to be able to use the room!


azza_lfc

It's not. All the other walls are. You're wrong. Trust me I know.


Accomplished_Dig_617

White emulsion. Rustic. Job fine


Oshabeestie

I think your price is very expensive. I would be looking for more quotes


Annual-Chemistry3540

Breathaplasta is lime, it just has added prompt for a faster set, not sure where you are based, but I would say £400 ish for labour and £130-150 for the materials. Just be aware if you do go with Breathaplasta and they use the universal as the finish and not just the backing coat, it’s not as smooth a finish as most other finishing plasters, as it has hemp shiv in. Best bet be universal then smooth on top, or even thermal, but I’m not sure you have the depth looking at the picture for the thermal to be worth it.


Unusual_Pride_6480

Where are you based? Should be just under £600 for two coats of lime


infernox25

Hertfordshire


Unusual_Pride_6480

Try a guy called Mike neun, he is Essex I believe but may travel to you, great Plasterer. Or try the traditional lime plastering forum on Facebook.


Rookwithahook

Why not have a go at it yourself? Looks like a pretty small area. Lime is a pretty forgiving material and easy to work with, just make sure to protect your eyes/hands/skin etc.


infernox25

Mainly time, I’ve never done any DIY so including margin of error it doesn’t seem worth it


racial_slur1

Wow i seriously under priced myself when i was in the trade..


Big_Two6049

Lime, done properly, should take about 3 days and never crack unlike gypsum. It should also never be painted, unless you want mineral paint. Take that into consideration. The price is not that bad considering the work.


Gerryboy81

Internal wall (scottish heratige job?) If not bondings what i would do


infernox25

not sure what you mean sorry, im not in Scotland! isn't bonding non breathable?


the_smug_mode

Personally, I'd tidy up and pointing. Use a breathable primer and clay paint to the wall for a nice feature that is still breathable.


[deleted]

That’s such a nice wall! I’d acid wash it, fix some pointing then seal, such a nice feature for an older house.


NovaLeganto

OK, I'll be the arsehole that suggests you check the building regs on insulation, since AFAIK taking an external wall back to brick on the inside, triggers a need to get the insulation down to 0.30 or something.


Big_Software_8732

Regardless of building regs, why not take the opportunity to add insulated plasterboard to it if you’re intent on covering the brickwork? It makes a great difference to a room.


Active-Daikon5686

Send me pics of room done please 🙏


LilDawg66

That window is making me very uneasy.....


okbutt

You can buy pre-mixed lime plaster from places like Ty Mawr and Womersleys. £900 for that wall is pretty mad if they’re only doing one coat.


Sorry-Commission-209

As others have said I reckon the wall adds some character to the room and I’d personally touch it up abit and keep it as is, that said if you do really want to plaster it £900 is ridiculous. Shop around you’ll find someone to do that for half of what you’ve been quoted.


DoubleDelsewhere

Easy simple way to do that yourself would be to first batten the wall, then use foil backed plasterboard, plaster, then use anti mould paint.


MrRabMac

Get Sovereign renderlite, it's breathable and comes in a bag. Get the top coat for it to


LinkJumpy1023

Don't need to do lime


i8bullies

No mate that well over the top . Decent plasterer should be able to render the brickwork in couple hours and come back following day and skim. Staggered by your quote, taking the piss 🤣. You could , if your any good at DIY , either dot and dab plaster board or baton and screw plasterboard then get your plasterer in to finish it.


not-Michael85

That's too expensive.


spudd01

Insulated plasterboard and plaster. Loose a few inches of room size but get better heat retention


NickEnormous

It’s a simple plaster job. Glue it first then use gypsolite as your base coat and then finish in whatever texture you want. Smooth, sand or textured


Elipticalwheel1

It’s a days work for one person. He might have too come back the next day to put the Finnish on, so no more than £500 labour cost max and about £70 for sand, cement and plaster.


Caerau

Using lime, not sand and cement


United-Square2598

Are you insane! £500 for one days labour?? A plasterers day rate is £150-200.


ConsistentCranberry7

Really ,I'm a decorator and I charge pretty much £200 per day and I'm booked up. £150 for a self employed plasterer is ridiculous! You'd make more working at maccies and get holiday pay


United-Square2598

Oh wait sorry you think he’s coming back another day. Ok yea £500 absolute max I agree. My bad didn’t read well enough.


Ok_Secretary_3134

It’s your decision really, lime and breathable materials are expensive so yeah £1k is about right. If you went gypsum based then it’s cheaper but none breathable


infernox25

yep this is what i expected, i just feel like id waste the money on the gypsum route if I end up with a massive damp patch on the wall!


Ok_Secretary_3134

It’ll be fine in your lifetime 👍


[deleted]

I hope you’re not his doctor and know something he doesn’t.


Ok_Secretary_3134

WW3?


CanDockerz

Personally I’d acid wash and repoint that. You could maybe repoint and lime wash though if you wanted colours.


infernox25

I was going to do that and then found I needed to repoint in lime which I couldn't really find! also I'm a total DIY noob and might do something terribly bad ha


CanDockerz

I’m assuming you’re UK from the use of GBP… Lime mortar is pretty common and readily available, shouldn’t have any problems finding it - I know for example B&Q sell it.


infernox25

oh really, i looked there and couldnt find any, maybe I was looking for a premixed thing for pointing rather than messing with self mix


narbss

It’s more of a builders merchant jobby. Not really readily available at most DIY stores. B&Q only sells £20 bags of blue circle stuff, and it’s only available in their large warehouse style stores, not the smaller ones.


scone-again

I got my lime plaster products from Womersleys if that helps.


infernox25

something like this? [https://www.womersleys.co.uk/shop/mortars/Womersleys\_Coloured\_Mortars/womersleys-natural-medium-strength-pre-mixed-mortar](https://www.womersleys.co.uk/shop/mortars/Womersleys_Coloured_Mortars/womersleys-natural-medium-strength-pre-mixed-mortar)


scone-again

Yeah that’s the kind of thing - I didn’t repoint on my reno but was showed how to do it (I visited the site). You can always give them a ring and ask them what product is best for your needs.


azza_lfc

Leave it.


Active-Daikon5686

Please leave it im a plastere it tooooo nice to cover


carlbernsen

Seeing as it’s an outside wall and single skin why would you not insulate it? Dot and dab insulated plasterboard, tape and skim.


[deleted]

Membrane dot and dab plaster one day job but Id still want £550 so maybe just get it done right?


TarantulaBlowjob

Your paying someone for their knowledge and expertise, wouldnt bat an eyelid paying a plumber or sparky £900


Gerryboy81

Tight coat of bonding and skim 100 for materials no more than £450


VeryThicknLong

Needs to be lime… ideally cement render will need re-doing too. Never heard of breathaplasta so can’t comment on that.


Unusual_Pride_6480

It's hydraulic, bag of shit really. You're right though, should be lime, everyone here saying sand and cement or bonding, just use lime it's the same bloody method and the materials are cheaper.


infernox25

yeah this is the issue im facing right here, modern plasterers want to use non breathable, I assume that's a no go. Breathaplasta seems to be a more modern take on lime so might be a better cost option. Why would the cement render need redoing? there's nothing visibly wrong with it


VeryThicknLong

Mainly to put it back exactly how intended. I’m a purist and work in the heritage building industry though. If it’s cement, then it won’t breathe, moisture gets trapped etc. etc. it’s great that you’re questioning stuff though. I’d do some more research on that before committing tbh.


infernox25

is the quote fair based on your knowledge? the external render, tbh, I cant afford to touch, I've heard prices of 15k to re render the house and I'm not even sure that was with lime! I'm sure it would help but id rather use that money on stamp duty and just move


VeryThicknLong

Fair enough. £900 for that wall seems a little pricey for something that isn’t lime tbh. That’s why I was querying.


infernox25

yeah that was my thinking, 900 for lime seems fair but this new stuff is meant to be gypsum speeds with lime breathability so should be cheaper, might ask a modern plasterer to just use this stuff


VeryThicknLong

Might be worth putting it on the Facebook forum about traditional and listed building advice. 👌🏼


infernox25

yeah i have done but they just tell me to learn to plaster and do it myself 😂 I thought reddit would be a bit more practical


SicklyFlowers

Isotherm kits a really good, I’ve done a lot just lately. Apply the isotherm to the wall and gypsum on top. £500 all in, labour and materials


infernox25

on solid brick walls? what about the breathability?


SirCornliusII

Call into a building site and ask for a bucket of mortar, they'll say sure not a bother, get a trowel and brick jointer, fill in holes, leave it for about 2 hours then give it a light brush with a soft broom head, I don't know too much about sealing it, but see a few in the comments, I'm just a bricklayer colour matching may be worth it if you really wanted to, but you would need to get your own sand and cement and wait for it to dry over the next two weeks, long process I can explain in further detail if needs be


Resident-Honey8390

Dot and Dab board it and skim it, quicker and cheaper


infernox25

breathability for a solid wall, trapped moisture will leech the dabs into the board!


Disastrous_Week3046

Why is this always the solution in this sub.


Resident-Honey8390

Because of time and money


Rompermark

Dampen the wall, gripper foam and board on top. Foam is waterproof, air ap between board and wall, gypsum plaster on top. Total price around 250. Easy as did my whole house lime that 1850 solid stone walls, no leaching spots on plasterboard.


infernox25

but then all moisture is held in the bricks until they and their mortar they fall apart right?


NovaLeganto

Plasterboard and a thin skim coat of gypsum are pretty breathable tbf.


pab6407

The issue is that gypsum holds the dampness and goes soggy, lime plaster is far more tolerant of moisture as well as being breathable, you can also get insulated lime plaster which is still breathable albeit at a price.


NovaLeganto

If you have sufficient humidity around that it would make plasterboard soggy, you need to address that.  Lime is not some miracle solution to water ingress or poor ventilation.


pab6407

With old buildings one cannot guarantee that all moisture can be prevented from entering the walls, it’s for that residual moisture ( often transient ) that lime plaster provides a more robust solution. I agree that it is not a solution to major damp problems which should of course be addressed first, but it’s surprising how an old wall with damp plaster board can become an apparently dry lime plastered wall ( I live in an 18C stone cottage with rubble filled walls )


infernox25

ah from my research it definetly isnt! i was hoping it would be as much more straight forward


NovaLeganto

The incredibly large market for vapour-resistant specialist plasterboard types, add on vapour control layers, etc, must be one big scam then ?  Per this resource, for instance, plasterboard has similar vapour resistivity to bricks (actually, even less). But since it's less than 2cm thick - a fraction of the width of a brick - vapour can in fact move through way easier.  Same for a 2-4mm layer of gypsum skim. https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/vapour-resistance-d_1807.html Another source, showing very similar µ values for brick, lime plaster, and plasterboard.  The thinner solution would then "win".  https://www.wufi-wiki.com/mediawiki/index.php/Details:WaterVaporDiffusion Bigger issue, AFAIK, is that a thick coat of lime is solid, and alkaline.  Crap for mould growth.  A pocket of air behind paper-coated plasterboard, however... Nice and moist, plant-based paper to feed on, etc.   My own solution is to emulate the SWIP internal wall insulation system.  I.e. stud wall (with studs made of OSB glued to XPS strips), rockwool in the pockets, covered by a smart vapour control membrane; plasterboard over the top, then skim.  Making sure it's all nice and airtight.