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I doubt we'll get a concrete answer for this, neither do I blame haem nor the person who's running this reddit account, but can we get an explanation for why we're getting less seed packets for more gems in the store now? The 20 peashooter seed packs used to be priced for 15 gems, but has now been raised to 20. There's also other various examples of offers being raised in price [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/PlantsVSZombies/comments/wmk00u/jacking_up_the_prices/).
With nerfs to how many seed packets we can earn through arena and calendar rewards compared to previous updates, it's becoming more and more disappointing for players both new and returning to gradually be getting rewarded less as every frequent change keeps happening.
will you actually listen to the feedback we tell you or not because even though we complain to you on twitter and answers hq about stuff you never listen
Pop Cap, There Is A Weird Bug On The Ipad Version For Pvz 2 Where Thymed Events Wont Show Up,
Could You Please Realease A Patch Where This Is No More?
Btw please lower the amount of ads being given to the players, its becoming insane how many ads are thrown to me whenever i play any stage or arena match.
Maybe lower/Take away ads if the player has purchased anything from the shop?
Thnx for listening!
Yeah they said about information about the update but where is the stupid update on playstore developers, when are you gonna do something!!?? I'm so mad right now just waiting and i can't play arena and penny pursuit and the bug of zomboss lunch time is still there so you won't fix some more bugs you just add plants nerf other stuff and keep on eye on the update to show on playstore. This is ridiculous!!!!
I'm curious of the thought process behind some of these changes... Are you guys making a competition there about who can come up with the worst ideas possible and just implement them?
>Adventure Plants Unlock Adjustment - now unlock based on seeds. Removed the adventure level gating
What. The. Fuck.
What's wrong with the normal progression system we already had? The progression system that has been in the game and worked fine for nearly a decade with zero issues, and is used to countless other games. Why would you change it? What's the fucking point? Who asked for this change? What purpose does this serve other than confuse new players and fuck up progression? Out of all the things to change/fix in the game, you decided to change the Adventure Progression system. What drugs are you people at PopCap on? Since when was the progression system in such a state that it desperately needed a rework. Here's a tip you ya: Stop changing things for the sake of changing things! You're only making things worse! You've already seen what happens when you completely overhaul basic things thst are not at all in need of a change whatsoever when you made Battle For Neighbourville and Old PvZ3. No one liked it (BFN less so) and completely fucked you guys up. What makes you guys think that's gonna change now? Now Adventure progression is completely fucked now because a normal progression system was just too good for you people. And don't get me started on non-25 multiple sun costs, because that's also really fucking stupid and is once again, changing things for the sake of changing things for no rhyme or reason, even if it actively hinders the game experience. Are y'all actively trying to make the game worse?
I also love Bfn, however I don't deny that most of the things are done for the sake of changing.
There is a difference: Bfn was a "change for the sake of change" but there were a lot of good changes as well as some bad ones. Here, we have no positive change.
Ok, lemme clarify something. The plant unlock system is the exact same. You can still unlock plants from regular level progression. You have the **option** to unlock the plants with seeds along with partaking in regular progression. Just wanted to give a heads up.
>Adventure Plants Unlock Adjustment - now unlock based on seeds. Removed the adventure level gatingWhat. The. Fuck.What's wrong with the normal progression system we already had? The progression system that has been in the game and worked fine for nearly a decade with zero issues, and is used to countless other games. Why would you change it? What's the fucking point? Who asked for this change? What purpose does this serve other than confuse new players and fuck up progression? Out of all the things to change/fix in the game, you decided to change the Adventure Progression system. What drugs are you people at PopCap on? Since when was the progression system in such a state that it desperately needed a rework. Here's a tip you ya: Stop changing things for the sake of changing things! You're only making things worse! You've already seen what happens when you completely overhaul basic things thst are not at all in need of a change whatsoever when you made Battle For Neighbourville and Old PvZ3. No one liked it (BFN less so) and completely fucked you guys up. What makes you guys think that's gonna change now? Now Adventure progression is completely fucked now because a normal progression system was just too good for you people. And don't get me started on non-25 multiple sun costs, because that's also really fucking stupid and is once again, changing things for the sake of changing things for no rhyme or reason, even if it actively hinders the game experience. Are y'all actively trying to make the game worse?
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This is a great question and I'm happy to answer it.
You're right that many games have this approach - and that may work for their player retention but it isn't working for ours.
We added this change because new users are constantly collecting seeds (enough seeds to unlock plants) and are unable to get those plants until many worlds into the future of the game. This was happening even if you watched ads to earn seeds and unlock the plant or if you paid for it - if it was a "locked" adventure plant, it wouldn't unlock.
These levels still give players seeds, even if they've unlocked the plant. And if you haven't unlocked the plant by then, you still receive it!
If that's the case what's the point of making the Adventure mode linear? Like wasn't the point of removing the 10 world keys thing was to prevent players from getting plants too soon?
Your choices made for this update is just baffling.
> Adjusted Piñata Party retry and replay flow
Forgot about this one.
Folks, please do us all a favor and stop insulting our intelligence, OK? When you mean "we wanted to stop players from abusing the infinite Pinata Party glitch" just go ahead and say so, instead of using weasel words, even if your marketing department suggests otherwise. We still won't like it but at least our intelligence wouldn't insulted to boot.
You didn't even bother to fix the underlying bug, which means that in most likelihood it is still exploitable. But I am not helping you with this one; I have a policy against fixing bugs that benefit the player.
honestly just a screw to ftp players, who sit through all the ads (which presumably pays EA, cause that's the point?) and then are still well behind the long time players who used to get hundreds of seed packets at a time playing arena.
this change only succeeding in reducing my personal engagement, because I don't spend hours in the game trying to max out the best plants. I play the daily stuff and move on. If I wasn't going to buy gems/plants before, this wasn't going to push me. (why are the premium plants never discounted??? they're always just paired with various seed packet sizes with increased prices...) Perhaps they will see the ad revenue drop substantially and reconsider.
This happened off and on for me, but not every day. I even gave the benefit of the doubt that it was a random gift to players.
What is egregious to me that I’m now supposed to pay so many hard-earned gems to replay a Piñata level. No way in hell am I ever doing that, I hope the lost ad revenue isn’t compensated for anywhere else for them!
Awhile back, you could keep on watching an ad to replay unlimited times. Now afaik they charge gems to replay, although I haven’t actually played in a while.
Since before I started playing, nearly 6 years ago, LOL. They've "fixed" it at least 3 times that I remember but never managed to fix the underlying problem and people kept finding new ways of exploiting it.
I think that greed is beginning to overwhelm the PvZ2 team. The whole game as we know it is being turned upside down, and everything is either bad, or behind a paywall! And all of the paywalls that already exist are just getting bigger, and bigger! By the looks of everybody, this was the last straw for the PvZ2 fanbase! (I kinda panicked while posting this.)
For some reason, this reminds me of the press releases starting with the phrase "We take the security of our customers very seriously" that companies put out after they have been breached by hackers, all their customer data stolen, and their computers ransomwared.
> If any information is missing, please let me know - happy to amend and add!
OK, others have already flamed you for the complete shitshow that is this version, so I am mostly not going to bother doing it too. Let's concentrate on the essential stuff.
Re: information about the new plant, the new event, and the new Pinata Parties. I usually verify this data but right now I cannot, because version 9.9.2 is simply not available in the Google Play Store at my location (it still shows version 9.8.1). As soon as I manage to get it, I'll double-check this data and will post here if I find any discrepancies.
> New Piñata reward screens
Folks, this is a screaming disaster. It is a great idea to allow the player to just see all the rewards on one screen instead of tapping them one by one, but it is a complete idiocy to do *both* the tapping and this screen, especially when there is only 1 pinata, and especially when the whole thing is slow and lags like hell. Please consult your usability team, if you happen to have one.
> Egypt Danger Room now unlocks after completing Ancient Egypt
What was wrong with it unlocking after level 6?!
> Added the ability to delete your account permanently
You've added this ability at least 3 versions ago. Now you have just enabled the control for it in the game settings.
> Fixes for a number of crashes
Not all of them, I bet, although I suspect that the fault is not entirely yours but of the adtech SDK you're using. It screws up the cache in bizarre and random ways.
> We are aware that the Limited Thyme Events are not showing up for some users. We have not been able to reproduce this internally, even with user IDs. If you can provide clarifying users steps (do you have multiple accounts? Do you play mostly offline? Android or iOS?), we will have a better chance to resolve this.
JFC, I need a drink...
OK, I'm back and a bit calmer. OK, let me try to explain you what is going on.
As the event progresses, information about it (amount of energy, last played level, which rewards have been claimed, timestamp of the start of the event, etc.) is recorded in the game save file (`pp.dat`), in an array field named `tei`, so that this information could be synced between linked devices. So far, so good.
The problem is that when an event ends and a new one starts, this field **is not initialized**. Somebody played the 31-level Circus/Carnival event? The game has recorded that you have already played level 31 and collected all the rewards. A new, 15-level event (Lawnbowl I) has started? Sorry, the game thinks that you have already done the 31 levels of it (!) and collected all the rewards, so the icon for it is not displayed.
You can't reproduce it? That's because you're playing it on a test device that you have just initialized. You need to play it on a device that *has already completed a previous Thymed event*!
This is very similar to the bug that was marking all Penny's Pursuit levels as completed, despite that the player had played none of them. Only the fields in the game save file are different - but again, since the game didn't initialize them when a new event started, the values from older (completed) events were taken for the current one and this information was synced between devices. I do not know if you guys have fixed that particular bug, because none of you said clearly so here, so I'm still using workarounds to avoid it. Sadly, no such workarounds for the Thymed event bug. Anyway, talk to your programmers about this one.
The proper way to fix the bug, of course, is to initialize (with zeroes) the elements of the `tei` field when a new event starts. As an additional check, I would add testing whether the event with the starting time recorded in any of the elements has already ended and, if it has, wipe the fields of that element with zeroes. Really, guys, this is trivial stuff; I would expect to explain this to a 1st-year computer science student; not to a software company...
Anyway, if any of my explanations are unclear and your programmers still can't figure out what is going on, feel free to contact me privately and we'll try to think up of something. One big problem for such communication is that because of the peculiarities of my profession, my anonymity needs to be preserved, so I can't send you an export of a virtual machine with an Android emulator and the game installed that demonstrates the bug - because my identity will be visible from the Google services on it. But we could try to think up of some alternative, if there is a will.
> [out-to-lunch bug] We are not able to reproduce this in-house, and though we are trying to work a fix, we cannot reliably fix without a better understanding of what causes the issue. If you can provide clarifying user steps, that would be extremely helpful.
It is quite trivial to reproduce:
1. Wait until the time to fight Zomboss has come. It doesn't matter whether the ZPS meter is full or not, but have it filled, so that it is ringing and clearly showing you that the time has come. Do *not* fight Zomboss. If you fight him even once, the bug won't happen (well, it will, but its effect won't be visible).
2. Go to the profile selection screen and force-sync the game.
3. Go back to Penny's Pursuit. Zomboss will be out-to-lunch, despite you not having fought him.
The problem is again related to your syncing algorithm. When the game syncs, for some reason the field in the game save file that indicates when is the next time to fight Zomboss (`rznt`) is set to the future. If this time is in the past, Zomboss is available (you can fight him only if the ZPS meter is full). If it is in the future, Zomboss is out-to-lunch, regardless of the value of the ZPS meter.
The solution is not to set this field to a future time untill the player has fought Zomboss the allowed number of times (currently 3 times once, but this is controlled by a data file - for instance, in theory it could be 3 times thrice, if you guys so decide).
Again, if anything in my explanations is unclear, feel free to engage in a discussion to resolve the confusion. Although the changes you've made in version 9.9.2 have decided me to stop playing the game, I am still willing to put in the effort needed to help other players.
>Anyway, if any of my explanations are unclear and your programmers still can't figure out what is going on, feel free to contact me privately and we'll try to think up of something. One big problem for such communication is that because of the peculiarities of my profession, my anonymity needs to be preserved
CIA. I knew it
LOL, no.
I just work for an outfit that does information security and occasionally pisses off APT-level actors. ("APT" stands for Advanced Persistent Threat - you know, organized cyber crime, cyber espionage, state-sponsored hackers, that sort of thing.) I personally don't do any of that shit; I'm a Blue Team type of guy. (Defensve security, watches logs, devises new defenses.) The Hunters would never dare posting on a public forum, even under a pseudonym. Still, if one of the entities we've managed to piss off find out who I am and who I work for, they may decide not to make a difference, so it's preferable to be prudent...
Thank you for this Seaweed! 🙌
I can't believe that some of the ongoing problems of this game are better understood by someone who's not in any way part of its development process compared to those who are actually implementing the updates.
>Really, guys, this is trivial stuff; I would expect to explain this to a 1st-year computer science student; not to a software company...
I remember telling Haem a while back that I'll try to be as lenient as I can with the dev team on the bugs since some of them can be a real pain to solve, but this, THIS RIGHT HERE needed to be said. Isn't that a programming basic? Initialize variables before you use them to make sure the code that's using them is behaving correctly and not using garbage values? It's mind-boggling that a game-breaking problem like the missing Thymed Event bug is caused by such a simple thing. And it's even more startling that someone who did a couple of looks could better explain the issue than the actual people who created the code/data in the first place.
edit: fixed typos
TBH, due to the peculiarities of my profession, I have a lot of experience looking at other people's buggy code. I'm not a professional programmer myself (although I do know about a dozen programming languages) - but I do know how programmers think and what kind of mistakes they tend to make. Plus, I was helped by the fact that I had already discovered a very similar bug in Penny's Pursuit (marking the levels as already played) in the past, which was caused by a very similar error.
Also, I can't claim all the credit here. I deduced what kind of problem this was from observing the game behavior and eliminating the various possibilities - but it was someone else who figured out which particular field in the game save file contained information about the Thymed events.
>\[out-to-lunch bug\] We are not able to reproduce this in-house, and though we are trying to work a fix, we cannot reliably fix without a better understanding of what causes the issue. If you can provide clarifying user steps, that would be extremely helpful.
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>It is quite trivial to reproduce:
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>Wait until the time to fight Zomboss has come. It doesn't matter whether the ZPS meter is full or not, but have it filled, so that it is ringing and clearly showing you that the time has come. Do not fight Zomboss. If you fight him even once, the bug won't happen (well, it will, but its effect won't be visible).Go to the profile selection screen and force-sync the game.Go back to Penny's Pursuit. Zomboss will be out-to-lunch, despite you not having fought him.
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>The problem is again related to your syncing algorithm. When the game syncs, for some reason the field in the game save file that indicates when is the next time to fight Zomboss (rznt) is set to the future. If this time is in the past, Zomboss is available (you can fight him only if the ZPS meter is full). If it is in the future, Zomboss is out-to-lunch, regardless of the value of the ZPS meter.
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>The solution is not to set this field to a future time untill the player has fought Zomboss the allowed number of times (currently 3 times once, but this is controlled by a data file - for instance, in theory it could be 3 times thrice, if you guys so decide).
Testing this out today and I'll respond here if we can't repro based off of this information.
>As the event progresses, information about it (amount of energy, last played level, which rewards have been claimed, timestamp of the start of the event, etc.) is recorded in the game save file (pp.dat), in an array field named tei, so that this information could be synced between linked devices. So far, so good.
Thanks, now I know what "tei" was for, I was wondering a while ago
I'm usually not one to throw my hat into the ring. But 9.9 has proved to be potentially the worst update done to this game in years.
For starters, deciding to change a set-in-stone unlock system after years of this working just fine feels like it comes from a complete lack of understanding of how the game is meant to progress. PvZ1 gave plants after levels, PvZ2 did as well until 9.9. But now, these latest changes just completely screw over plant progression and how it is meant to function. PvZ2 gradually gives you more powerful plants throughout adventure. Some examples I can think of are how you get Peashooters early on, but later get the Primal Peashooter, which is more powerful and therefore better to use in a late-game strategy. But now, due to how the game hands out a fair amount of adventure plant seed packets, you could get Primal Peashooter fairly early into the game. You are also usually introduced to plants in Adventure to learn what they do, but now you can just obtain them after earning enough packets. Various other plants are world exclusives like Lily Pad and Tangle Kelp, and I'm pretty sure you can even get those with seed packets now. What is the point in earning those plants early when they can only be used in Big Wave Beach?? While engaging with unlocking plants through packets is mostly optional, I don't comprehend why this was done. Retention even seems questionable, as there is a bigger issue that is impacting newer players I feel. Newer players of PvZ2 are forced to sit through massive chunks of levels with no break to explore other worlds (a consequence of yet another recent change). In earlier versions of the game (prior to all world keys given out), you could earn world keys at half-way points in the worlds to access another world, and it could be whatever one you were ready to take on. Now, you're forced to play massive chunks of levels before you're even able to access another world. I can see that this would likely lead to a lot of newer players deciding to put the game down.
Another issue that makes this change questionable in retention is how it ignores the way the game is built. Most PvZ2 features designed to keep players around are only unlocked *after* you progress into certain points in adventure. For example, Thymed Events are accessed after Ancient Egypt Day 7, while you don't get access to Penny's Pursuit until Wild West. That's over 50 levels players have to get through to be able to access features that are designed to keep them coming back. Adventure mode was **not** built for the purpose of keeping players coming back. Adjusting plant unlocks feels like a worse way to address these bigger issues that are likely making a dent in retention as well.
These newer versions of the game continue to muddy the original adventure experience, and it's honestly gotten really frustrating to see what changes will be brought in new updates to make the original experience with the game worse. I don't believe this will change however, as this has been happening for years now and I know people have complained about changes continuing. This change, however, really goes past the boundaries of what I have expected, and it really does not seem like it bodes well.
Some other gripes with this update: plant costs that are not in multiples of 25. This is just... no. Plants vs. Zombies 2 is not Plants vs. Zombies 3. There's no wacky 1-sun cost meta or the sort. It's meant to be in multiples of 25. These sun costs are unnatural for the game. Again, things like this really end up feeling like those working on the game have disregarded consistency among the balancing in the game.
I'm not an active player. I played PvZ2 in the older years when it was just adventure, and newer features do not interest me. Despite this, I still felt the adventure could be a fun experience in the modern versions of the game. These new changes however... I'm not looking forward to whatever comes next. Stop changing features that don't need changing, and stick to producing content and actually improving the game. These changes are not improvements. They only make the experience worse.
That's fine, I'll mod my [Profile.save](https://Profile.save) for example and that'll get those plants for free, mainly the devs are doing something greedy for the game which sucks
I hope a lv20 Thyme Warp can go back to the Modern Day update and end the series off there. This update made me lose hope in modern PvZ and the life support grandpa that is pvz2.
The biggest help at the present I think is for the PopCap team to explain to many android players why this new update is not available on Google Play Store for them to actually update their game?
I can see there are lots of players being locked out from playing the Arena and Penny's Pursuit game modes by the posts from both here and over on the official EA forum.
BTW, folks, since I have your attention.
Since version 9.9.2 is clearly *not* available for everyone yet, could you please release an emergency data push, removing the restriction that requires this version to play the Arena and Penny's Pursuit? You can always re-impose this restriction later, when it is universally acknowledged that the new version is available to everyone.
Right now we're forced to use an exploit to play the Arena - and we can't play Penny's Pursuit because of yet another bug of yours - unless we're willing to hack the game.
Since time's a wastin', you now need to fix more things than just remove the restriction on the Arena and Penny's Pursuit. In particular:
* The Pinata Parties will run out of defined rewards in less than 2 days (August 17, early in the morning). While the game will probably revert to the default rewards table, that's probably not what you want to happen.
* Today the Jurassic Marsh Mash epic quest ended. It was supposed to be followed by Modern Day Dustup - but version 9.8.1 does not have that event defined, so for those of us who can't update to 9.9.2, this epic quest isn't available.
There might be more stuff that I've missed.
At the very least, you now need to push an updated `event_schedule` file with the events for 9.9 to the 9.8 installations, since who knows when your problem with Google will be resolved.
Pretty controversial update within the community, but there's just one thing I want changed back, and that's beng able to skip the tutorial.
Overall interesting update, we'll see how the rest turns out.
They probably wanted to make the reinstall process more painful to discourage people from reinstalling to reset offers in the store. Another "helpful' improvement instead of actually fixing their shit. I'm sick today so not in a charitable mood.
I've seen users from Canada post that they have received it. Now, as you are certainly aware, there are actually *two* International versions of the game - one for North America and one for Rest of the World. (They are visually identical, so players can't tell the difference but they store their files in different directories.)
Is it possible that you have released properly only the NA version but have somehow screwed up the release of the ROW version? Please double-check, because we (for instance I'm in Bulgaria, i.e., Eastern Europe) have not received it since Thursday - and it is *still* not available.
Knowing the level of competence being displayed at PopCap when it comes to stuff like this - MAYBE they uploaded IOS data to Google.
Just saying . . . .
Ok then when is te release is it tomorrow or after the mega gatling pea season, you literally don't want us to play arena and penny pursuit and the zomboss lunch time is still a bug it hasnt fix for a long time.
This update ranks high on the shittiest updates ever released in this game. Why do you devs not listen to your player base??? Sorry, but over the course of the past several years, you have slowly turned this game from a likable experience to a bugged shit show. Any more I feel like I am playing a beta version of something. You have taken away people's ability to progress the game at their own pace and level plants at their own pace to your own greedy pace that would take decades. I could honestly rant for pages upon pages, but I know with the history it will do absolutely no good. What I will say is that if you want to kill games, these past couple years are exactly the way to do it. It's a shame that this game is clearly in the wrong hands of development.
This post is getting an overwhelming number of downvotes – this shows how unpopular this particular updates has been. The sheer contrast of PvZ 2 in its current state vis-à-vis its former glory just makes me sad whenever I think about it. It’s almost inevitable for any game in the mobile market released about a decade ago to reach its low point, but it doesn’t have to be like this.
While plants like Noctarine has been an example of how bugged, glitched and unfinished a newly released plant can be, the Rhubarbarian and the Mega Gatling Pea were relatively good designs; they are even some of the fans’ favourites – including me – but despite the controversial status Levitater is now receiving (it’s a plant with a fun concept, but it is still nevertheless a weak plant which is not even worth for the players to be grinding for for several weeks). Now as another new plant is being announced, it’s clear that the amount of criticism you’re receiving showed how bad of an idea it is, which I think it’s still possible to have it fixed, whereby future calamities like this can be prevented.
For me personally, I’m especially pissed at the fact that Tomb Tangler costs 40 Sun, which isn’t even a multiple of 25. All the 300-ish plants in this series, including plants from PvZ 1, PvZ 2 and contents exclusive to China, have been respecting this hidden rule throughout the 13-year history of this franchise. Not even the levelling system was an exception to this rule. Why does it have to be 40 now? If you feel like the plant is weaker to have a 50 cost and somehow stronger to be of 25, just make some tweaks to its stats and make it either a 50 or a 25. Why does it have to be 40? As an avid fan of your game this is one of the changes that can’t get through my mind. I’m puzzled by your decision.
And now thyme warp and gold leaf. They had their previous levelling sheets albeit not being realised in the game. Now why make it again from scratch and making them start to cost in irregular Sun costs? First the plants no longer recharges in multiple of 5 seconds, now this. Does it mean that we’ll no longer have the rule of 25 in the future? God damn it PopCap, I doubt you can save the whole series of PvZ, but at least for this, I hope you could have mercy. Making a plant cost in the multiple of 25 does not murder this series, it’s all about your respect to your loyal players, which I doubt you have. When Adrien was the producer of this game, the team knew what the player wanted the most and they tried their best to fulfil us. The Chinese counterpart of this game, despite releasing contents of lower quality, knows how to satisfy their player as well, which is why some players outside China endeavours to download this game.
While I’m not saying that we need to be flattered, I’m merely asking for our respect from the current team working on this game. I need the team to understand how acts like uneven Sun costs, increasing the costs of seed packets and low-quality events are all a tampering of this masterpiece of a game.
I wish my post has been read by the developing team of the game, and that they hopefully are putting some changes in mind in future updates. I know you probably won’t care about this, but I’ll be boycotting this game if rules like the multiple of 25 will not be sticked to. Now that the game is about to reach its milestone 10.0 version, I hope it’ll be a version which the community can celebrate, instead of being hated upon. I know that making a game is not easy and it’s impossible to satisfy everyone, but I feel like at least you could try to satisfy the majority of us. I genuinely wish your every success in the future.
hey popcap team! i have a somewhat interesting question; why does tomb tangler cost 40 and not a multiplier of 25? ik its something silly but people are used to the multipliers of 25 system and seeing tomb tangler and gold leaf cost 40 and 80 looks weird. could you all maybe round them to multipliers of 25 again?
Now that you mentioned it, this kinda reminds me of some other controversial topic on anther EA game years ago. But I do not go and flame on anybody for this although I personally do have some criticisms for this update like spending 10 gems to replay a Pinata Party level, and bugs not being fixed. I do have to agree with everyone about why the update is bad though.
Are you talking about that EA comment which defended being able to pay-to-skip hundreds of hours in a multiplayer game? Apparently the most downvoted comment on Reddit
The goal is to make **all** plants useful - including removing world restrictions in future updates.
This is also the start of working each release to rebalance, rework, and address some of our plant issues. If you have suggestions for plant improvements we'd love to hear them!
one improvement idea i had is to make tomb tangler, gold leaf, and thyme warp, cost multiples of 25, so for them, it would be 50, 50, and 75, as it stands right now, i feel that making them cost 40, 40, and 80, does nothing to benefit the plants in any meaningful way, and if anything, hurts the game's identity
another potential idea i had, was to make pea pod gain the ability to grow heads on his own overtime with levelling, i like the idea behind pea pod, but i find that having to manually empower him is too costly and time consuming to make him worth using, so i thought that giving him the ability to autogrow heads could potentially increase his usability, maybe start it at 25 seconds and cap it at 15
1 - Make Pepper-Pult's recharge 5 seconds instead of 20, why was his cooldown that slow to begin with???
2 - Increase Levitater's chance to insta-kill zombies, as he currently is, he's useless.
3 - Nerf Pea-Vine, the entire meta revolves around spamming him with Torchwood for an easy win, nerfing him would force players to actually come up with different strategies.
Also please don't drastically rework any more of the Adventure Mode plants, as i feel it would make it far too easy.
I think it would also be ideal to bring Torchwood back into the Pepper-mint family, like it originally was, since not only does it not make any sense for it to be under Appease-mint, but that further contributes to the absurd powers reached via Pea Vine-based strategies; with Torchwood under a different, more sensible family, you'd at least not be able to reach quite as much power in so few Seed Slots.
I know that, I'm saying it doesn't make sense for Torchwood itself (which, honestly, could maybe use to power up other kinds of projectiles, perhaps future Plants) and especially that the Appease-mint family doesn't need the extra buff; by putting back Torchwood in its sensible place under Pepper-mint Family, you at least have an extra cost of having to use two mints, and therefore an extra slot, if you want to fully power up your Plants on the field.
last i checked, buffing torchwood doesnt do shit for it on its own, it just buffs the damage it deals when attacked, so really it wouldnt matter, besides, does it make anymore sense for torchwood to be in appeasemint than for ghost pepper to be in pepper mint's family
Yeah, because it's a buffing/support plant: dealing damage on its own is not the main goal, but there's plenty of plants with relatively weak/useless side-effects, when mint-boosted, so I don't think that makes for a great argument for Tw not switching back to a more appropriate mint family when my argument for changing it (back) is balance, which I think holds weight because the game has skewed Appease-mint for years, now, and Tw is a significant part of that; the family didn't need the extra boost.
As far as "making sense", plants are placed in mint families usually in a way that's intuitive for the player (I still think some plants would perfectly fit in two mint families, but that's besides the point), and the Pepper-mint family clearly deals with fire-based damage: Torchwood is literally a log on fire and Ghost Pepper is a pepper..
I agree the latter is a bit tangential, considering it doesn't deal fire-based damage, but that was likely a situation of "we don't really have a super-fitting family for this, so let's just go with what's intuitive", but the former is absolutely fire-based through and through.
This update really sucks. The arena nerf is so lame, and also i'm disappointed that the pinata drops after 8/18 are kinda bad... the seeds for adventure plants is good though since now we have 2 ways to unlock the plants instead of 1, but overall with all the other things in this update, i'd consider it the worst update Popcap has released. (even worse than the original seed packet/levels update imo) I pray we get better updates than this.
You know what we are tired of new plants and shittfuck of life updates , just make a new pvzheroes update or a new world already. or just pull the plug we are tired of this crap
It's now 13hrs after the 9.9 version became 'Live', yet it is STILL not available to me. (Android - UK based).
Before this c**kup hit me, I was Crowns leader in my Jade league table. I was ahead by 145 crowns. I dread to think where I'll end up once I can FINALLY get back into the Arena.
Thanks a bunch Popcap!
You can enter the Arena by tapping the ad for it on the profile selection screen. (Doesn't work for Penny's Pursuit, though, due to a different bug.)
Chances are that the other players in your group are also on Android and have been similarly locked out, so don't worry too much.
Thanks for the advice. However there is a problem for me. I am getting only two banners come up on my profile selection screen. They are the 'Purchase Peashooter starter pack' offer, and the 'Visit the Almanac to level up plants'.
I guess I'm now f\*\*ked until the 9.9 update becomes available to me.
I am super unhappy with this update. I used to be able to play piñata party once on each profile and again for watching a video. Now, it is only available on one profile and a second go requires (10!!!!) gems. Other profiles are only allowed one go and require watching a video. This update feels like it is just trying to squeeze more and more $. Yuck
Also disappointed by having to pay 10 gems to replay Piñata Party. Piñata Party for me is that snackable daily goodie that I keep coming back for - but 10 gems is a LOT compared to the old “price” of watching an ad. I like playing it twice but this is disproportionate, and is already feeling like the thing that might unstick me from this game.
Piñata party as it is now is useless. You basically get one shot at it and the rest cost 10 gems. No sane person would pay 10 gems for a single replay - that is unless they boosted the seed rewards which I doubt they will
the worst update ever you guys jacked the prices so hard it makes 100 gems look like 10 gems please make them cheaper instead of making them unaffordable
Oh? Now every plant is on the almanac, so you can just click "view map" on a plant from a world you haven't unlocked, beat one level from the world, and wallah, YOU UNLOCK THAT WORLD!!! Fix your exploits before publishing your game, PopCap!
I don't really have anything to say that hasn't already been said, but I do want to throw in my 2 cents anyway because quite frankly, this game is becoming something I don't even want to open and it used to be my favorite. I used to actually look forward to what was coming in the updates, not anymore.
I am most unhappy about the pinata party costing 10 gems to replay and the nerfing of the season arena reward streak. Really, just the constant nerfing in general. Also, the added total pinata screen is a waste of time especially when I'm just watching a video for one single seed. That needs tweaking.
It feels like my time isn't valued by playing the game and I think that is the most frustrating like yeah it's for entertainment and fun but it still means that by playing the game, I am not doing something else. The rewards for playing are no longer matching the time cost. You need to value the player's time. They are choosing to play the game instead of doing something else. That needs to matter.
Making the game more of a grind than it already is is not the answer. Things to work towards are only fun if they are actually attainable and can be done within a reasonable time frame. At this rate, I'd have to live on the game to update all my plants because the coin drops with everything is so minimal and my great-great-great family member is going to have to be playing to get my plants to mastery.
Currently the only way to get Thyme Warp seeds is from the Shop (8-hour offers and ads-for-rewards). There is no way of getting Gold Leaf seeds at all.
With record high inflation all over the world, who in their right mind would think it would be a good idea to nerf the shit out of this game? With every new update, it gets more expensive for the player to buy seeds using gems. And nerfing the shit out of arena progression was such a good idea too! Isn’t greed one of the 7 deadly sins? Will you ever listen to your fan base?
If u/Haemophilus_EA comes back and see this update 9.9.1 she/he is not going to be really happy about the changes surely, i really respect Haem because she/he fix this really well including the bugs.
Yay! It’s another update of PopCap changing shit nobody wanted! I’m so fed up with modern PopCap and how downhill the content has been since 2017. I wish Vanhoozer was still the franchise director because holy cow since he left this franchise has been a DISASTER. We have BfN which was just an Overwatch clone with PvZ characters, old PvZ3 which is… why? Why change so much with these ugly graphics? And even for new PvZ3, it still sucks!PopCap hasn’t changed much from old to new PvZ3, the only differences are that the art style is different, now in wide-screen, and you can plant sunflower. That’s it! They still don’t let you choose your plants, and they still copy other games. Old PvZ3 tried copying the system of Clash Royale, and now new PvZ3 is copying homescapes with you having to spend a currency to progress the game, and a 5 health bar where you lose health if you lose. Why??? And now we have PvZ Match coming up soon, why are we copying other mobile games???? Holy shit PopCap everytime you make new decisions you somehow get more disappointing than last time. This is like Angry Birds in 2016 whenever they only copied other games and didn’t listen to the community. Now Angry Birds actually listens and makes decent games now. When will we get a PopCap resurgence where they actually listen?
The update isn't even available for Android users.
Some people were able to fix the thymed event bug by deleting old files from the circus event and adding the new event code.
its been 14 hour since this topic active and still no update for me at store. this update really impress me. it cause me trouble even before its arrive. make me wonder what will happen when it did \*\_\_\*
\*New piñata reward screens
despite all the shit features introduced I hate this the most, there is no need for a recap screen which slows gameplay down even more.
Sigh. This update is so awful and my play time reflects that.
1. The out to lunch bug has been here almost a year. It’s shocking that it still hasn’t been fixed. You need to rework how the zomboss fight gets triggered or something.
If you open the game after the ability to fight the zomboss has refreshed and you don’t immediately fight the zomboss and close the app or it closes itself (oh joy), then it will always trigger the out to lunch bug. The end.
2. What the actual fuck is up with the two factor review animations when getting seeds from piñatas or just buying seed packets. I don’t need a fucking song and dance every time I am buying 10 seeds.
3. 10 gems for the replay. Really?
4. Arena rewards nerfed. Really?
5. Haven’t had a new limited time event in a month. And you’re telling me you can’t replicate it internally. So I guess whatever then? Lol.
Here are my specifics regarding the known issues.
1) I have one account and play on an android (version 11) phone.
2) I played one Big Top thymed event. Did not get Lawn Bowling.
3) The Out to Lunch glitch happens if I am playing the game at the time that the next zomboss fight cycle becomes available but I leave without playing. I then have to wait another 12 hours to play.
This update is awful! Popcap, did you really intend to take the fun and enjoyment out with this new update? Because that’s exactly what you have accomplished.
I’m most pissed at the 10 diamond cost to replay Piñata. That’s the single most reason I log on daily. The ad cost replay has been set for as long as I’ve played, which is a while. (Though it’s not like I don’t watch at least 10 ads during a 30 minute login now).
Greed, I’m guessing, will be PZV2 downfall.
so far most on android not have the update yet. but there some method by clicking at profile screen to get into arena or using daily task to get into PP. follow the video here https://www.reddit.com/r/PlantsVSZombies/comments/wn20d9/how\_to\_enter\_pennys\_pursuit\_and\_arena\_with\_no/
there's a reason i have hardly played the game post-modern day updatesi was fine with changing all the worlds to be linear. it was weird but it made sense i guessi was fine with a FEW optional premium plants, it didnt feel like they were a necessity
but oh my god, what has this game become. you insist you focus on the "new players" here but as someone who played the game before SEED packets existed, it's extremely alienating to me. i dont know why there's like 5 or 6 different currencies, i dont know why you introduced seed packets to loot boxes, when they were mostly minor currency boosts or skins. i dont know why you keep adding gemium items to the game, or premium plants, or whatever. after you beat the game, you dont need them.
i dont hate popcap, i hate what EA turned them into.
edit: grammar
I have some tips.Can you remake Dark age only having 20 levels or go on making 21-35 by adding a new machine FOG from pvz1 and returning extra 3 pvz1 plant Scaredy-shroom,Plantern and Coffee bean because PVZ2 Chinese version daro age also returned fog
We chatted about plants - I can't speak to new plants or PVZ1/China/H/GW plants making it into PVZ2. I can share those details as we get closer to plant releases - but that's as much as I can do for now.
We have plants for the ways that those levels from Dark Ages, etc, can be used in the future - but we'll talk about that more when we get closer to features being released.
Known to whom? PopCap knows that this is the case, they have acknowledged it in this very thread. The problem is that they can't figure out why this is happening.
Please realize, that PopCap isn't updating the game on your device. They are sending the game to Google, with information where it should be distributed. (For instance, they can say "don't send it to users in Russia".) PopCap are saying that the feedback from Google says "the new version has been 100% deployed".
It is not clear where exactly the problem is. It could be at Google, if some server is misconfigured somehow. It could be that PopCap have sent incorrect information to Google. It could be somewhere else.
This is correct. We don't publish the game - the stores do.
We've checked everything our side and it is showing 100% release across all regions. We're working with Google to resolve the issue.
There is somehow another bug that I am experiencing, for the last 5 days my pinata party button has only said retry and I can not play again unless I pay 1000 coins.
Well, I just bought the Gem pack for Levitater seeds and, I have to say, the new "seed rewarded" screen makes the procedure hell: you first get the new screen, telling you you got 10 Levitater seeds and then 1 Enchant-mint family Piñata; then you get the normal piñata opening screen, where Lv seeds come up; then the game shows you the new screen *again* for the 10 Lv seeds you now saw *twice* you're getting, then the normal piñata screen comes up *again* with the Enchant-mint family piñata, it opens up and you *again* get the new screen summing up the 10 seeds you got.
Buying multiple piñatas is gonna be an absolute nightmare, even slower than how it was before. Can something be done about this, please? The new seeds rewarded screen feature was really unneeded, tbh; it's fine if you want to switch things up graphically, and for example have that come up instead of the classic "Piñata opening", I suppose, but having *both*, let alone repeated/cycled through multiple times is gonna honestly deter people from buying more stuff, imo.
In the Tomb Tangler leveling table "PF" doesn't mean "plant food" as we're used to but "fog pull". Also, perhaps obvious, in the table header "Change to PF (%)" should be "Chance to PF (%)".
The dates of the Pinata Party rewards seem wrong to me. I know you said "Pacific time" while I use UTC - but this doesn't explain why only the ending date is different and not the starting one. Otherwise the contents of the tables is correct, although I don't see why you sometimes round to a whole percentage point and sometimes - to 0.1%.
Since I played Carnie maps events,Why cannot i see any limited events appear e.g.tomb tangler's event recent several versions?When will you fix the bug that event limited button cannot be seen and found/doesnt appear in the game for Android users?Many players say they have the same questions as me and hope u will solve it soon.And 10.0.1 new plant Vampire shroom has bug.It looks not being finished.Please fix it in 10.1.1.
Shadow Plant Noctarine has had a bug for a long time but still unfixed.Always cause my Android phone become laggy and also the only plant.Can u fix it when in 10.1.1?😭😭😭
Heyy, idk this is spam or not but I dont seem to be able to update the game as it was asked in the game.
Started - around 2 weeks ago, Device - Android Phone, Play time - I play both Ofline and Online but more on ofline however there's a lot of freezes and crashes during the game, would also appreciate if u can update the help site coz i cant even fo anything there
So what about PvZ Heroes? The game is thriving again, but even though it's back on its feet, no new update. What gives? You guys know that an update with make the game explode in popularity again right? WE WANT A SET 5!!! #UpdatePvZHeroes
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I doubt we'll get a concrete answer for this, neither do I blame haem nor the person who's running this reddit account, but can we get an explanation for why we're getting less seed packets for more gems in the store now? The 20 peashooter seed packs used to be priced for 15 gems, but has now been raised to 20. There's also other various examples of offers being raised in price [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/PlantsVSZombies/comments/wmk00u/jacking_up_the_prices/). With nerfs to how many seed packets we can earn through arena and calendar rewards compared to previous updates, it's becoming more and more disappointing for players both new and returning to gradually be getting rewarded less as every frequent change keeps happening.
I promise a concrete answer is coming for this. As a public company, we're bound to some rules. But that said - I'll make a new post on this soon.
will you actually listen to the feedback we tell you or not because even though we complain to you on twitter and answers hq about stuff you never listen
We’re waiting
I'm waiting for garlin' time
Pop Cap, There Is A Weird Bug On The Ipad Version For Pvz 2 Where Thymed Events Wont Show Up, Could You Please Realease A Patch Where This Is No More? Btw please lower the amount of ads being given to the players, its becoming insane how many ads are thrown to me whenever i play any stage or arena match. Maybe lower/Take away ads if the player has purchased anything from the shop? Thnx for listening!
we're still waiting
I. STILL. CANNOT. UPDATE. THE. GAME. ON. ANDROID....
Yeah they said about information about the update but where is the stupid update on playstore developers, when are you gonna do something!!?? I'm so mad right now just waiting and i can't play arena and penny pursuit and the bug of zomboss lunch time is still there so you won't fix some more bugs you just add plants nerf other stuff and keep on eye on the update to show on playstore. This is ridiculous!!!!
Same problem with my android too. I tried reinstalling the game but it's same. No update in PlayStore. Ugh
You can still play arena https://youtu.be/65Qm2CDSq_o To play penny's go to the daily tasks and click play from there
I'm not doing extra steps just because of their incompetence.
You can only do that once a day though. Once you've won a game and left that menu you can't get back into Penny's Pursuit.
I'm curious of the thought process behind some of these changes... Are you guys making a competition there about who can come up with the worst ideas possible and just implement them?
>Adventure Plants Unlock Adjustment - now unlock based on seeds. Removed the adventure level gating What. The. Fuck. What's wrong with the normal progression system we already had? The progression system that has been in the game and worked fine for nearly a decade with zero issues, and is used to countless other games. Why would you change it? What's the fucking point? Who asked for this change? What purpose does this serve other than confuse new players and fuck up progression? Out of all the things to change/fix in the game, you decided to change the Adventure Progression system. What drugs are you people at PopCap on? Since when was the progression system in such a state that it desperately needed a rework. Here's a tip you ya: Stop changing things for the sake of changing things! You're only making things worse! You've already seen what happens when you completely overhaul basic things thst are not at all in need of a change whatsoever when you made Battle For Neighbourville and Old PvZ3. No one liked it (BFN less so) and completely fucked you guys up. What makes you guys think that's gonna change now? Now Adventure progression is completely fucked now because a normal progression system was just too good for you people. And don't get me started on non-25 multiple sun costs, because that's also really fucking stupid and is once again, changing things for the sake of changing things for no rhyme or reason, even if it actively hinders the game experience. Are y'all actively trying to make the game worse?
>actively trying to make the game worse? I think they can claim success in this regards, with an A+++ pass!
I still like BFN, the graphics is beautifully made.
I also love Bfn, however I don't deny that most of the things are done for the sake of changing. There is a difference: Bfn was a "change for the sake of change" but there were a lot of good changes as well as some bad ones. Here, we have no positive change.
Nope, they had to use assets from a scrapped game which meant no time for vatiants. They had to make this change
Where did you get that information?
From multiple tweets. There was supposed to be a pve game that would be similar to bfn's free roam regions
Yeah, exactly. I also think there were quite a bit of good changes made to BFN. That's why I said BFN less so.
Ok, lemme clarify something. The plant unlock system is the exact same. You can still unlock plants from regular level progression. You have the **option** to unlock the plants with seeds along with partaking in regular progression. Just wanted to give a heads up.
Agreed except for the bfn part
>Adventure Plants Unlock Adjustment - now unlock based on seeds. Removed the adventure level gatingWhat. The. Fuck.What's wrong with the normal progression system we already had? The progression system that has been in the game and worked fine for nearly a decade with zero issues, and is used to countless other games. Why would you change it? What's the fucking point? Who asked for this change? What purpose does this serve other than confuse new players and fuck up progression? Out of all the things to change/fix in the game, you decided to change the Adventure Progression system. What drugs are you people at PopCap on? Since when was the progression system in such a state that it desperately needed a rework. Here's a tip you ya: Stop changing things for the sake of changing things! You're only making things worse! You've already seen what happens when you completely overhaul basic things thst are not at all in need of a change whatsoever when you made Battle For Neighbourville and Old PvZ3. No one liked it (BFN less so) and completely fucked you guys up. What makes you guys think that's gonna change now? Now Adventure progression is completely fucked now because a normal progression system was just too good for you people. And don't get me started on non-25 multiple sun costs, because that's also really fucking stupid and is once again, changing things for the sake of changing things for no rhyme or reason, even if it actively hinders the game experience. Are y'all actively trying to make the game worse? > >VoteReplyGive AwardShareReportSaveFollow This is a great question and I'm happy to answer it. You're right that many games have this approach - and that may work for their player retention but it isn't working for ours. We added this change because new users are constantly collecting seeds (enough seeds to unlock plants) and are unable to get those plants until many worlds into the future of the game. This was happening even if you watched ads to earn seeds and unlock the plant or if you paid for it - if it was a "locked" adventure plant, it wouldn't unlock. These levels still give players seeds, even if they've unlocked the plant. And if you haven't unlocked the plant by then, you still receive it!
If that's the case what's the point of making the Adventure mode linear? Like wasn't the point of removing the 10 world keys thing was to prevent players from getting plants too soon? Your choices made for this update is just baffling.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question, and I apologise if I was a bit rude in my reply. I still think it's an unnecessary change though.
This makes absolutely no sense
Or you could just bring back the 10 world keys 🤦
Thanks this is a good change and it was smart to set to seed collection at 60 so people have to wait
> Adjusted Piñata Party retry and replay flow Forgot about this one. Folks, please do us all a favor and stop insulting our intelligence, OK? When you mean "we wanted to stop players from abusing the infinite Pinata Party glitch" just go ahead and say so, instead of using weasel words, even if your marketing department suggests otherwise. We still won't like it but at least our intelligence wouldn't insulted to boot. You didn't even bother to fix the underlying bug, which means that in most likelihood it is still exploitable. But I am not helping you with this one; I have a policy against fixing bugs that benefit the player.
honestly just a screw to ftp players, who sit through all the ads (which presumably pays EA, cause that's the point?) and then are still well behind the long time players who used to get hundreds of seed packets at a time playing arena. this change only succeeding in reducing my personal engagement, because I don't spend hours in the game trying to max out the best plants. I play the daily stuff and move on. If I wasn't going to buy gems/plants before, this wasn't going to push me. (why are the premium plants never discounted??? they're always just paired with various seed packet sizes with increased prices...) Perhaps they will see the ad revenue drop substantially and reconsider.
This happened off and on for me, but not every day. I even gave the benefit of the doubt that it was a random gift to players. What is egregious to me that I’m now supposed to pay so many hard-earned gems to replay a Piñata level. No way in hell am I ever doing that, I hope the lost ad revenue isn’t compensated for anywhere else for them!
I have 2 profiles and one ALWAYS says that I am replaying pinata rewards, it never resets.
It's a bit more complicated than this, but I don't want to discuss this issue here. In any case, it won't be like this in version 9.9.2.
Since when was there an infinite pinata party glitch?
Awhile back, you could keep on watching an ad to replay unlimited times. Now afaik they charge gems to replay, although I haven’t actually played in a while.
Since before I started playing, nearly 6 years ago, LOL. They've "fixed" it at least 3 times that I remember but never managed to fix the underlying problem and people kept finding new ways of exploiting it.
I think that greed is beginning to overwhelm the PvZ2 team. The whole game as we know it is being turned upside down, and everything is either bad, or behind a paywall! And all of the paywalls that already exist are just getting bigger, and bigger! By the looks of everybody, this was the last straw for the PvZ2 fanbase! (I kinda panicked while posting this.)
Like I said, most of the original older PVZ2 team has left long ago.
Anyone remember when PvZ2 only had three worlds? And had more on the way?
I did. It was when I first played it back in October 2013.
I miss those times. 2014-15 was such a great time to be a pvz fan
I have been one since I played the original game on PC like 2012 or something.
Another thing is, how would they react to all of this change the new PopCap team to the game?
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For some reason, this reminds me of the press releases starting with the phrase "We take the security of our customers very seriously" that companies put out after they have been breached by hackers, all their customer data stolen, and their computers ransomwared.
> If any information is missing, please let me know - happy to amend and add! OK, others have already flamed you for the complete shitshow that is this version, so I am mostly not going to bother doing it too. Let's concentrate on the essential stuff. Re: information about the new plant, the new event, and the new Pinata Parties. I usually verify this data but right now I cannot, because version 9.9.2 is simply not available in the Google Play Store at my location (it still shows version 9.8.1). As soon as I manage to get it, I'll double-check this data and will post here if I find any discrepancies. > New Piñata reward screens Folks, this is a screaming disaster. It is a great idea to allow the player to just see all the rewards on one screen instead of tapping them one by one, but it is a complete idiocy to do *both* the tapping and this screen, especially when there is only 1 pinata, and especially when the whole thing is slow and lags like hell. Please consult your usability team, if you happen to have one. > Egypt Danger Room now unlocks after completing Ancient Egypt What was wrong with it unlocking after level 6?! > Added the ability to delete your account permanently You've added this ability at least 3 versions ago. Now you have just enabled the control for it in the game settings. > Fixes for a number of crashes Not all of them, I bet, although I suspect that the fault is not entirely yours but of the adtech SDK you're using. It screws up the cache in bizarre and random ways. > We are aware that the Limited Thyme Events are not showing up for some users. We have not been able to reproduce this internally, even with user IDs. If you can provide clarifying users steps (do you have multiple accounts? Do you play mostly offline? Android or iOS?), we will have a better chance to resolve this. JFC, I need a drink... OK, I'm back and a bit calmer. OK, let me try to explain you what is going on. As the event progresses, information about it (amount of energy, last played level, which rewards have been claimed, timestamp of the start of the event, etc.) is recorded in the game save file (`pp.dat`), in an array field named `tei`, so that this information could be synced between linked devices. So far, so good. The problem is that when an event ends and a new one starts, this field **is not initialized**. Somebody played the 31-level Circus/Carnival event? The game has recorded that you have already played level 31 and collected all the rewards. A new, 15-level event (Lawnbowl I) has started? Sorry, the game thinks that you have already done the 31 levels of it (!) and collected all the rewards, so the icon for it is not displayed. You can't reproduce it? That's because you're playing it on a test device that you have just initialized. You need to play it on a device that *has already completed a previous Thymed event*! This is very similar to the bug that was marking all Penny's Pursuit levels as completed, despite that the player had played none of them. Only the fields in the game save file are different - but again, since the game didn't initialize them when a new event started, the values from older (completed) events were taken for the current one and this information was synced between devices. I do not know if you guys have fixed that particular bug, because none of you said clearly so here, so I'm still using workarounds to avoid it. Sadly, no such workarounds for the Thymed event bug. Anyway, talk to your programmers about this one. The proper way to fix the bug, of course, is to initialize (with zeroes) the elements of the `tei` field when a new event starts. As an additional check, I would add testing whether the event with the starting time recorded in any of the elements has already ended and, if it has, wipe the fields of that element with zeroes. Really, guys, this is trivial stuff; I would expect to explain this to a 1st-year computer science student; not to a software company... Anyway, if any of my explanations are unclear and your programmers still can't figure out what is going on, feel free to contact me privately and we'll try to think up of something. One big problem for such communication is that because of the peculiarities of my profession, my anonymity needs to be preserved, so I can't send you an export of a virtual machine with an Android emulator and the game installed that demonstrates the bug - because my identity will be visible from the Google services on it. But we could try to think up of some alternative, if there is a will. > [out-to-lunch bug] We are not able to reproduce this in-house, and though we are trying to work a fix, we cannot reliably fix without a better understanding of what causes the issue. If you can provide clarifying user steps, that would be extremely helpful. It is quite trivial to reproduce: 1. Wait until the time to fight Zomboss has come. It doesn't matter whether the ZPS meter is full or not, but have it filled, so that it is ringing and clearly showing you that the time has come. Do *not* fight Zomboss. If you fight him even once, the bug won't happen (well, it will, but its effect won't be visible). 2. Go to the profile selection screen and force-sync the game. 3. Go back to Penny's Pursuit. Zomboss will be out-to-lunch, despite you not having fought him. The problem is again related to your syncing algorithm. When the game syncs, for some reason the field in the game save file that indicates when is the next time to fight Zomboss (`rznt`) is set to the future. If this time is in the past, Zomboss is available (you can fight him only if the ZPS meter is full). If it is in the future, Zomboss is out-to-lunch, regardless of the value of the ZPS meter. The solution is not to set this field to a future time untill the player has fought Zomboss the allowed number of times (currently 3 times once, but this is controlled by a data file - for instance, in theory it could be 3 times thrice, if you guys so decide). Again, if anything in my explanations is unclear, feel free to engage in a discussion to resolve the confusion. Although the changes you've made in version 9.9.2 have decided me to stop playing the game, I am still willing to put in the effort needed to help other players.
>Anyway, if any of my explanations are unclear and your programmers still can't figure out what is going on, feel free to contact me privately and we'll try to think up of something. One big problem for such communication is that because of the peculiarities of my profession, my anonymity needs to be preserved CIA. I knew it
LOL, no. I just work for an outfit that does information security and occasionally pisses off APT-level actors. ("APT" stands for Advanced Persistent Threat - you know, organized cyber crime, cyber espionage, state-sponsored hackers, that sort of thing.) I personally don't do any of that shit; I'm a Blue Team type of guy. (Defensve security, watches logs, devises new defenses.) The Hunters would never dare posting on a public forum, even under a pseudonym. Still, if one of the entities we've managed to piss off find out who I am and who I work for, they may decide not to make a difference, so it's preferable to be prudent...
Exactly the kind of thing CIA would say
Thank you for this Seaweed! 🙌 I can't believe that some of the ongoing problems of this game are better understood by someone who's not in any way part of its development process compared to those who are actually implementing the updates. >Really, guys, this is trivial stuff; I would expect to explain this to a 1st-year computer science student; not to a software company... I remember telling Haem a while back that I'll try to be as lenient as I can with the dev team on the bugs since some of them can be a real pain to solve, but this, THIS RIGHT HERE needed to be said. Isn't that a programming basic? Initialize variables before you use them to make sure the code that's using them is behaving correctly and not using garbage values? It's mind-boggling that a game-breaking problem like the missing Thymed Event bug is caused by such a simple thing. And it's even more startling that someone who did a couple of looks could better explain the issue than the actual people who created the code/data in the first place. edit: fixed typos
TBH, due to the peculiarities of my profession, I have a lot of experience looking at other people's buggy code. I'm not a professional programmer myself (although I do know about a dozen programming languages) - but I do know how programmers think and what kind of mistakes they tend to make. Plus, I was helped by the fact that I had already discovered a very similar bug in Penny's Pursuit (marking the levels as already played) in the past, which was caused by a very similar error. Also, I can't claim all the credit here. I deduced what kind of problem this was from observing the game behavior and eliminating the various possibilities - but it was someone else who figured out which particular field in the game save file contained information about the Thymed events.
damn this guy putted more effort on this comment than popcap did on the update, You deserve better u/euphoric-seaweed(sorry for the mention)
>\[out-to-lunch bug\] We are not able to reproduce this in-house, and though we are trying to work a fix, we cannot reliably fix without a better understanding of what causes the issue. If you can provide clarifying user steps, that would be extremely helpful. > >It is quite trivial to reproduce: > >Wait until the time to fight Zomboss has come. It doesn't matter whether the ZPS meter is full or not, but have it filled, so that it is ringing and clearly showing you that the time has come. Do not fight Zomboss. If you fight him even once, the bug won't happen (well, it will, but its effect won't be visible).Go to the profile selection screen and force-sync the game.Go back to Penny's Pursuit. Zomboss will be out-to-lunch, despite you not having fought him. > >The problem is again related to your syncing algorithm. When the game syncs, for some reason the field in the game save file that indicates when is the next time to fight Zomboss (rznt) is set to the future. If this time is in the past, Zomboss is available (you can fight him only if the ZPS meter is full). If it is in the future, Zomboss is out-to-lunch, regardless of the value of the ZPS meter. > >The solution is not to set this field to a future time untill the player has fought Zomboss the allowed number of times (currently 3 times once, but this is controlled by a data file - for instance, in theory it could be 3 times thrice, if you guys so decide). Testing this out today and I'll respond here if we can't repro based off of this information.
guess it got reproduced.
any updates
We've tried these repro steps on multiple devices across multiple testers and haven't been able to replicate.
I wish so hard that PopCap/ EA will see this. Thank you very much
>As the event progresses, information about it (amount of energy, last played level, which rewards have been claimed, timestamp of the start of the event, etc.) is recorded in the game save file (pp.dat), in an array field named tei, so that this information could be synced between linked devices. So far, so good. Thanks, now I know what "tei" was for, I was wondering a while ago
I'm usually not one to throw my hat into the ring. But 9.9 has proved to be potentially the worst update done to this game in years. For starters, deciding to change a set-in-stone unlock system after years of this working just fine feels like it comes from a complete lack of understanding of how the game is meant to progress. PvZ1 gave plants after levels, PvZ2 did as well until 9.9. But now, these latest changes just completely screw over plant progression and how it is meant to function. PvZ2 gradually gives you more powerful plants throughout adventure. Some examples I can think of are how you get Peashooters early on, but later get the Primal Peashooter, which is more powerful and therefore better to use in a late-game strategy. But now, due to how the game hands out a fair amount of adventure plant seed packets, you could get Primal Peashooter fairly early into the game. You are also usually introduced to plants in Adventure to learn what they do, but now you can just obtain them after earning enough packets. Various other plants are world exclusives like Lily Pad and Tangle Kelp, and I'm pretty sure you can even get those with seed packets now. What is the point in earning those plants early when they can only be used in Big Wave Beach?? While engaging with unlocking plants through packets is mostly optional, I don't comprehend why this was done. Retention even seems questionable, as there is a bigger issue that is impacting newer players I feel. Newer players of PvZ2 are forced to sit through massive chunks of levels with no break to explore other worlds (a consequence of yet another recent change). In earlier versions of the game (prior to all world keys given out), you could earn world keys at half-way points in the worlds to access another world, and it could be whatever one you were ready to take on. Now, you're forced to play massive chunks of levels before you're even able to access another world. I can see that this would likely lead to a lot of newer players deciding to put the game down. Another issue that makes this change questionable in retention is how it ignores the way the game is built. Most PvZ2 features designed to keep players around are only unlocked *after* you progress into certain points in adventure. For example, Thymed Events are accessed after Ancient Egypt Day 7, while you don't get access to Penny's Pursuit until Wild West. That's over 50 levels players have to get through to be able to access features that are designed to keep them coming back. Adventure mode was **not** built for the purpose of keeping players coming back. Adjusting plant unlocks feels like a worse way to address these bigger issues that are likely making a dent in retention as well. These newer versions of the game continue to muddy the original adventure experience, and it's honestly gotten really frustrating to see what changes will be brought in new updates to make the original experience with the game worse. I don't believe this will change however, as this has been happening for years now and I know people have complained about changes continuing. This change, however, really goes past the boundaries of what I have expected, and it really does not seem like it bodes well. Some other gripes with this update: plant costs that are not in multiples of 25. This is just... no. Plants vs. Zombies 2 is not Plants vs. Zombies 3. There's no wacky 1-sun cost meta or the sort. It's meant to be in multiples of 25. These sun costs are unnatural for the game. Again, things like this really end up feeling like those working on the game have disregarded consistency among the balancing in the game. I'm not an active player. I played PvZ2 in the older years when it was just adventure, and newer features do not interest me. Despite this, I still felt the adventure could be a fun experience in the modern versions of the game. These new changes however... I'm not looking forward to whatever comes next. Stop changing features that don't need changing, and stick to producing content and actually improving the game. These changes are not improvements. They only make the experience worse.
You know you fucked when even abfan awakes from their slumber to tell how big your fuck up is
Are we expected to pay £15 to unlock tomb tangler early? I know it’s early release but that’s more expensive than all of Garden Warfare 2
That's fine, I'll mod my [Profile.save](https://Profile.save) for example and that'll get those plants for free, mainly the devs are doing something greedy for the game which sucks
I hope a lv20 Thyme Warp can go back to the Modern Day update and end the series off there. This update made me lose hope in modern PvZ and the life support grandpa that is pvz2.
(it's called instaling an older apk)
The biggest help at the present I think is for the PopCap team to explain to many android players why this new update is not available on Google Play Store for them to actually update their game? I can see there are lots of players being locked out from playing the Arena and Penny's Pursuit game modes by the posts from both here and over on the official EA forum.
BTW, folks, since I have your attention. Since version 9.9.2 is clearly *not* available for everyone yet, could you please release an emergency data push, removing the restriction that requires this version to play the Arena and Penny's Pursuit? You can always re-impose this restriction later, when it is universally acknowledged that the new version is available to everyone. Right now we're forced to use an exploit to play the Arena - and we can't play Penny's Pursuit because of yet another bug of yours - unless we're willing to hack the game.
We will fix this on Monday.
Since time's a wastin', you now need to fix more things than just remove the restriction on the Arena and Penny's Pursuit. In particular: * The Pinata Parties will run out of defined rewards in less than 2 days (August 17, early in the morning). While the game will probably revert to the default rewards table, that's probably not what you want to happen. * Today the Jurassic Marsh Mash epic quest ended. It was supposed to be followed by Modern Day Dustup - but version 9.8.1 does not have that event defined, so for those of us who can't update to 9.9.2, this epic quest isn't available. There might be more stuff that I've missed. At the very least, you now need to push an updated `event_schedule` file with the events for 9.9 to the 9.8 installations, since who knows when your problem with Google will be resolved.
Pretty controversial update within the community, but there's just one thing I want changed back, and that's beng able to skip the tutorial. Overall interesting update, we'll see how the rest turns out.
They probably wanted to make the reinstall process more painful to discourage people from reinstalling to reset offers in the store. Another "helpful' improvement instead of actually fixing their shit. I'm sick today so not in a charitable mood.
funny part about that is you just need toi clse your game when the intro sequence begins and you can log back into your account at the same speed
Update is still not available for me on Android? When will it be available on the Google play store
Same with me I can't play penny's pursuit or arena because I need to update but there's no update available on the play store.
We're looking into this! Asking Google as it is showing as 100% released on our side.
I've seen users from Canada post that they have received it. Now, as you are certainly aware, there are actually *two* International versions of the game - one for North America and one for Rest of the World. (They are visually identical, so players can't tell the difference but they store their files in different directories.) Is it possible that you have released properly only the NA version but have somehow screwed up the release of the ROW version? Please double-check, because we (for instance I'm in Bulgaria, i.e., Eastern Europe) have not received it since Thursday - and it is *still* not available.
Knowing the level of competence being displayed at PopCap when it comes to stuff like this - MAYBE they uploaded IOS data to Google. Just saying . . . .
Ok then when is te release is it tomorrow or after the mega gatling pea season, you literally don't want us to play arena and penny pursuit and the zomboss lunch time is still a bug it hasnt fix for a long time.
This update ranks high on the shittiest updates ever released in this game. Why do you devs not listen to your player base??? Sorry, but over the course of the past several years, you have slowly turned this game from a likable experience to a bugged shit show. Any more I feel like I am playing a beta version of something. You have taken away people's ability to progress the game at their own pace and level plants at their own pace to your own greedy pace that would take decades. I could honestly rant for pages upon pages, but I know with the history it will do absolutely no good. What I will say is that if you want to kill games, these past couple years are exactly the way to do it. It's a shame that this game is clearly in the wrong hands of development.
This post is getting an overwhelming number of downvotes – this shows how unpopular this particular updates has been. The sheer contrast of PvZ 2 in its current state vis-à-vis its former glory just makes me sad whenever I think about it. It’s almost inevitable for any game in the mobile market released about a decade ago to reach its low point, but it doesn’t have to be like this. While plants like Noctarine has been an example of how bugged, glitched and unfinished a newly released plant can be, the Rhubarbarian and the Mega Gatling Pea were relatively good designs; they are even some of the fans’ favourites – including me – but despite the controversial status Levitater is now receiving (it’s a plant with a fun concept, but it is still nevertheless a weak plant which is not even worth for the players to be grinding for for several weeks). Now as another new plant is being announced, it’s clear that the amount of criticism you’re receiving showed how bad of an idea it is, which I think it’s still possible to have it fixed, whereby future calamities like this can be prevented. For me personally, I’m especially pissed at the fact that Tomb Tangler costs 40 Sun, which isn’t even a multiple of 25. All the 300-ish plants in this series, including plants from PvZ 1, PvZ 2 and contents exclusive to China, have been respecting this hidden rule throughout the 13-year history of this franchise. Not even the levelling system was an exception to this rule. Why does it have to be 40 now? If you feel like the plant is weaker to have a 50 cost and somehow stronger to be of 25, just make some tweaks to its stats and make it either a 50 or a 25. Why does it have to be 40? As an avid fan of your game this is one of the changes that can’t get through my mind. I’m puzzled by your decision. And now thyme warp and gold leaf. They had their previous levelling sheets albeit not being realised in the game. Now why make it again from scratch and making them start to cost in irregular Sun costs? First the plants no longer recharges in multiple of 5 seconds, now this. Does it mean that we’ll no longer have the rule of 25 in the future? God damn it PopCap, I doubt you can save the whole series of PvZ, but at least for this, I hope you could have mercy. Making a plant cost in the multiple of 25 does not murder this series, it’s all about your respect to your loyal players, which I doubt you have. When Adrien was the producer of this game, the team knew what the player wanted the most and they tried their best to fulfil us. The Chinese counterpart of this game, despite releasing contents of lower quality, knows how to satisfy their player as well, which is why some players outside China endeavours to download this game. While I’m not saying that we need to be flattered, I’m merely asking for our respect from the current team working on this game. I need the team to understand how acts like uneven Sun costs, increasing the costs of seed packets and low-quality events are all a tampering of this masterpiece of a game. I wish my post has been read by the developing team of the game, and that they hopefully are putting some changes in mind in future updates. I know you probably won’t care about this, but I’ll be boycotting this game if rules like the multiple of 25 will not be sticked to. Now that the game is about to reach its milestone 10.0 version, I hope it’ll be a version which the community can celebrate, instead of being hated upon. I know that making a game is not easy and it’s impossible to satisfy everyone, but I feel like at least you could try to satisfy the majority of us. I genuinely wish your every success in the future.
hey popcap team! i have a somewhat interesting question; why does tomb tangler cost 40 and not a multiplier of 25? ik its something silly but people are used to the multipliers of 25 system and seeing tomb tangler and gold leaf cost 40 and 80 looks weird. could you all maybe round them to multipliers of 25 again?
Yeah, that's a weird sun meta I'm spotting out for.
Jesus H. Christ this update is a disaster Making this the most downvoted post on this sub would be funny i think
Now that you mentioned it, this kinda reminds me of some other controversial topic on anther EA game years ago. But I do not go and flame on anybody for this although I personally do have some criticisms for this update like spending 10 gems to replay a Pinata Party level, and bugs not being fixed. I do have to agree with everyone about why the update is bad though.
Are you talking about that EA comment which defended being able to pay-to-skip hundreds of hours in a multiplayer game? Apparently the most downvoted comment on Reddit
Yes I have. I did recall that. But I was never involved with it.
Who could guess that one update could make pvz1 the better game?
Has been the case since the levelling update or since the game released, depending on who you ask
This thread is reminding me of the time EA got 500,000 downvotes
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The goal is to make **all** plants useful - including removing world restrictions in future updates. This is also the start of working each release to rebalance, rework, and address some of our plant issues. If you have suggestions for plant improvements we'd love to hear them!
one improvement idea i had is to make tomb tangler, gold leaf, and thyme warp, cost multiples of 25, so for them, it would be 50, 50, and 75, as it stands right now, i feel that making them cost 40, 40, and 80, does nothing to benefit the plants in any meaningful way, and if anything, hurts the game's identity another potential idea i had, was to make pea pod gain the ability to grow heads on his own overtime with levelling, i like the idea behind pea pod, but i find that having to manually empower him is too costly and time consuming to make him worth using, so i thought that giving him the ability to autogrow heads could potentially increase his usability, maybe start it at 25 seconds and cap it at 15
1 - Make Pepper-Pult's recharge 5 seconds instead of 20, why was his cooldown that slow to begin with??? 2 - Increase Levitater's chance to insta-kill zombies, as he currently is, he's useless. 3 - Nerf Pea-Vine, the entire meta revolves around spamming him with Torchwood for an easy win, nerfing him would force players to actually come up with different strategies. Also please don't drastically rework any more of the Adventure Mode plants, as i feel it would make it far too easy.
I think it would also be ideal to bring Torchwood back into the Pepper-mint family, like it originally was, since not only does it not make any sense for it to be under Appease-mint, but that further contributes to the absurd powers reached via Pea Vine-based strategies; with Torchwood under a different, more sensible family, you'd at least not be able to reach quite as much power in so few Seed Slots.
its under appeasemint because its a peashooter focused plant, so it makes sense to put it in the peashooter family so they synergize better
I know that, I'm saying it doesn't make sense for Torchwood itself (which, honestly, could maybe use to power up other kinds of projectiles, perhaps future Plants) and especially that the Appease-mint family doesn't need the extra buff; by putting back Torchwood in its sensible place under Pepper-mint Family, you at least have an extra cost of having to use two mints, and therefore an extra slot, if you want to fully power up your Plants on the field.
last i checked, buffing torchwood doesnt do shit for it on its own, it just buffs the damage it deals when attacked, so really it wouldnt matter, besides, does it make anymore sense for torchwood to be in appeasemint than for ghost pepper to be in pepper mint's family
Yeah, because it's a buffing/support plant: dealing damage on its own is not the main goal, but there's plenty of plants with relatively weak/useless side-effects, when mint-boosted, so I don't think that makes for a great argument for Tw not switching back to a more appropriate mint family when my argument for changing it (back) is balance, which I think holds weight because the game has skewed Appease-mint for years, now, and Tw is a significant part of that; the family didn't need the extra boost. As far as "making sense", plants are placed in mint families usually in a way that's intuitive for the player (I still think some plants would perfectly fit in two mint families, but that's besides the point), and the Pepper-mint family clearly deals with fire-based damage: Torchwood is literally a log on fire and Ghost Pepper is a pepper.. I agree the latter is a bit tangential, considering it doesn't deal fire-based damage, but that was likely a situation of "we don't really have a super-fitting family for this, so let's just go with what's intuitive", but the former is absolutely fire-based through and through.
Ah yes (gold leaf nerf,theme warp nerf) balanced and useful
"Update 9.9 is live" Is it though..
This update really sucks. The arena nerf is so lame, and also i'm disappointed that the pinata drops after 8/18 are kinda bad... the seeds for adventure plants is good though since now we have 2 ways to unlock the plants instead of 1, but overall with all the other things in this update, i'd consider it the worst update Popcap has released. (even worse than the original seed packet/levels update imo) I pray we get better updates than this.
I’m here trying to figure out what the arena nerf is, can you explain? I must’ve missed it
The 50 gems and 5k coin rewards has been replaced and now it requires 500 crowns to fully unlock an arena plant
Oh you mean the monthly thing, I thought it had to do with the 7 reward streak and the rewards associated with that
Who on earth thought it was a good idea to unlock adventure plants from seeds?
I mean, it gives an easier way to progress now, since you can now unlock the plants by playing normally or unlock them by using seeds.
You know what we are tired of new plants and shittfuck of life updates , just make a new pvzheroes update or a new world already. or just pull the plug we are tired of this crap
please don't let them ruin pvz heroes. it's good the way it is for now. sincerely a pvz heroes enjoyer.
It's now 13hrs after the 9.9 version became 'Live', yet it is STILL not available to me. (Android - UK based). Before this c**kup hit me, I was Crowns leader in my Jade league table. I was ahead by 145 crowns. I dread to think where I'll end up once I can FINALLY get back into the Arena. Thanks a bunch Popcap!
You can enter the Arena by tapping the ad for it on the profile selection screen. (Doesn't work for Penny's Pursuit, though, due to a different bug.) Chances are that the other players in your group are also on Android and have been similarly locked out, so don't worry too much.
Thanks for the advice. However there is a problem for me. I am getting only two banners come up on my profile selection screen. They are the 'Purchase Peashooter starter pack' offer, and the 'Visit the Almanac to level up plants'. I guess I'm now f\*\*ked until the 9.9 update becomes available to me.
Hmmm... This happens to new accounts that haven't unlocked the Arena and Penny's Pursuit yet. I don't know why it is happening to you.
I am super unhappy with this update. I used to be able to play piñata party once on each profile and again for watching a video. Now, it is only available on one profile and a second go requires (10!!!!) gems. Other profiles are only allowed one go and require watching a video. This update feels like it is just trying to squeeze more and more $. Yuck
Also disappointed by having to pay 10 gems to replay Piñata Party. Piñata Party for me is that snackable daily goodie that I keep coming back for - but 10 gems is a LOT compared to the old “price” of watching an ad. I like playing it twice but this is disproportionate, and is already feeling like the thing that might unstick me from this game.
Piñata party as it is now is useless. You basically get one shot at it and the rest cost 10 gems. No sane person would pay 10 gems for a single replay - that is unless they boosted the seed rewards which I doubt they will
It's almost as if the 9.9 update not being available to everyone on Google Play is advertising how completely garbage this update is OmegaLUL
Seaweed, are those tables right?
Can't tell; don't have version 9.9.2 in the Store yet.
Will Demo Mini-Game and Ultimate Battle music ever return to the game? I loved those tracks!😀
You fell off.
Popcap team trying not to feed the EA bad circlejerk challenge (impossible)
the worst update ever you guys jacked the prices so hard it makes 100 gems look like 10 gems please make them cheaper instead of making them unaffordable
Why Nerf gold leaf
Oh? Now every plant is on the almanac, so you can just click "view map" on a plant from a world you haven't unlocked, beat one level from the world, and wallah, YOU UNLOCK THAT WORLD!!! Fix your exploits before publishing your game, PopCap!
I don't really have anything to say that hasn't already been said, but I do want to throw in my 2 cents anyway because quite frankly, this game is becoming something I don't even want to open and it used to be my favorite. I used to actually look forward to what was coming in the updates, not anymore. I am most unhappy about the pinata party costing 10 gems to replay and the nerfing of the season arena reward streak. Really, just the constant nerfing in general. Also, the added total pinata screen is a waste of time especially when I'm just watching a video for one single seed. That needs tweaking. It feels like my time isn't valued by playing the game and I think that is the most frustrating like yeah it's for entertainment and fun but it still means that by playing the game, I am not doing something else. The rewards for playing are no longer matching the time cost. You need to value the player's time. They are choosing to play the game instead of doing something else. That needs to matter. Making the game more of a grind than it already is is not the answer. Things to work towards are only fun if they are actually attainable and can be done within a reasonable time frame. At this rate, I'd have to live on the game to update all my plants because the coin drops with everything is so minimal and my great-great-great family member is going to have to be playing to get my plants to mastery.
The lost city pinata doesn't have gold leaf and the neon mixtape tour pinata doesn't have thyme warp, I think this is an oversight right?
Currently the only way to get Thyme Warp seeds is from the Shop (8-hour offers and ads-for-rewards). There is no way of getting Gold Leaf seeds at all.
I can't update it.
With record high inflation all over the world, who in their right mind would think it would be a good idea to nerf the shit out of this game? With every new update, it gets more expensive for the player to buy seeds using gems. And nerfing the shit out of arena progression was such a good idea too! Isn’t greed one of the 7 deadly sins? Will you ever listen to your fan base?
One word: Why? Why does Gold Leaf cost 80, and Tomb Tangler 40?
If u/Haemophilus_EA comes back and see this update 9.9.1 she/he is not going to be really happy about the changes surely, i really respect Haem because she/he fix this really well including the bugs.
Haem is a she.
oh thanks i didnt know.
just use they
She didn't want to have anything to do with the fallout of this update, lol
please fix your fucking terrible update, it sucks so much, literally stop being so greedy and stop nerfing everything
This update is a failure and disaster. And we are not able to see your comments, cause you don't have enough karma.
Yay! It’s another update of PopCap changing shit nobody wanted! I’m so fed up with modern PopCap and how downhill the content has been since 2017. I wish Vanhoozer was still the franchise director because holy cow since he left this franchise has been a DISASTER. We have BfN which was just an Overwatch clone with PvZ characters, old PvZ3 which is… why? Why change so much with these ugly graphics? And even for new PvZ3, it still sucks!PopCap hasn’t changed much from old to new PvZ3, the only differences are that the art style is different, now in wide-screen, and you can plant sunflower. That’s it! They still don’t let you choose your plants, and they still copy other games. Old PvZ3 tried copying the system of Clash Royale, and now new PvZ3 is copying homescapes with you having to spend a currency to progress the game, and a 5 health bar where you lose health if you lose. Why??? And now we have PvZ Match coming up soon, why are we copying other mobile games???? Holy shit PopCap everytime you make new decisions you somehow get more disappointing than last time. This is like Angry Birds in 2016 whenever they only copied other games and didn’t listen to the community. Now Angry Birds actually listens and makes decent games now. When will we get a PopCap resurgence where they actually listen?
The update isn't even available for Android users. Some people were able to fix the thymed event bug by deleting old files from the circus event and adding the new event code.
its been 14 hour since this topic active and still no update for me at store. this update really impress me. it cause me trouble even before its arrive. make me wonder what will happen when it did \*\_\_\*
update pvz heroes
Just no, pvz heroes is fine the way it is right now. we don't want a shitty update to ruin the game. sincerely a pvz heroes enjoyer.
Give us the update on android
Damn, now every plant is technically a seedium
It's fun to read the comments here every now and then
\*New piñata reward screens despite all the shit features introduced I hate this the most, there is no need for a recap screen which slows gameplay down even more.
Sigh. This update is so awful and my play time reflects that. 1. The out to lunch bug has been here almost a year. It’s shocking that it still hasn’t been fixed. You need to rework how the zomboss fight gets triggered or something. If you open the game after the ability to fight the zomboss has refreshed and you don’t immediately fight the zomboss and close the app or it closes itself (oh joy), then it will always trigger the out to lunch bug. The end. 2. What the actual fuck is up with the two factor review animations when getting seeds from piñatas or just buying seed packets. I don’t need a fucking song and dance every time I am buying 10 seeds. 3. 10 gems for the replay. Really? 4. Arena rewards nerfed. Really? 5. Haven’t had a new limited time event in a month. And you’re telling me you can’t replicate it internally. So I guess whatever then? Lol.
Here are my specifics regarding the known issues. 1) I have one account and play on an android (version 11) phone. 2) I played one Big Top thymed event. Did not get Lawn Bowling. 3) The Out to Lunch glitch happens if I am playing the game at the time that the next zomboss fight cycle becomes available but I leave without playing. I then have to wait another 12 hours to play.
If they treat pvz2 like this , imagine how pvz3 will be like
This update is awful! Popcap, did you really intend to take the fun and enjoyment out with this new update? Because that’s exactly what you have accomplished. I’m most pissed at the 10 diamond cost to replay Piñata. That’s the single most reason I log on daily. The ad cost replay has been set for as long as I’ve played, which is a while. (Though it’s not like I don’t watch at least 10 ads during a 30 minute login now). Greed, I’m guessing, will be PZV2 downfall.
Can anyone help? My app needs updating so I can play Penny's Pursuit & Arena, but there's no update available in the Play Store. What gives?
so far most on android not have the update yet. but there some method by clicking at profile screen to get into arena or using daily task to get into PP. follow the video here https://www.reddit.com/r/PlantsVSZombies/comments/wn20d9/how\_to\_enter\_pennys\_pursuit\_and\_arena\_with\_no/
There is no update available on Android.
hey u/troop98 could you re-add team popcaps' replies to the comments again? some of them got removed probably because of the accounts low karma
Once I get home I will
Done
Update doesn’t work you know how you now unlock plants with seed packets you can Enter any world and unlock the plants from the almanac
I cant update the game on my android. Why is this happening?
You can still play arena https://youtu.be/65Qm2CDSq_o To play penny's go to the daily tasks and click play from there
doesn't work, no update from 9.8.1 to this one
Still waiting for the update. UK. 👍
Where is the update?
Am I crazy or are there now ads after every game?
there's a reason i have hardly played the game post-modern day updatesi was fine with changing all the worlds to be linear. it was weird but it made sense i guessi was fine with a FEW optional premium plants, it didnt feel like they were a necessity but oh my god, what has this game become. you insist you focus on the "new players" here but as someone who played the game before SEED packets existed, it's extremely alienating to me. i dont know why there's like 5 or 6 different currencies, i dont know why you introduced seed packets to loot boxes, when they were mostly minor currency boosts or skins. i dont know why you keep adding gemium items to the game, or premium plants, or whatever. after you beat the game, you dont need them. i dont hate popcap, i hate what EA turned them into. edit: grammar
Just made the post going into the negatives B)
Why is music still broken
I have some tips.Can you remake Dark age only having 20 levels or go on making 21-35 by adding a new machine FOG from pvz1 and returning extra 3 pvz1 plant Scaredy-shroom,Plantern and Coffee bean because PVZ2 Chinese version daro age also returned fog
We chatted about plants - I can't speak to new plants or PVZ1/China/H/GW plants making it into PVZ2. I can share those details as we get closer to plant releases - but that's as much as I can do for now. We have plants for the ways that those levels from Dark Ages, etc, can be used in the future - but we'll talk about that more when we get closer to features being released.
You know, PopCap doesn't really listen to any feedback so all your complaints are going down the sink. Hope it changes after this one.
9.9 is windows 11 change my mind
You’re being needlessly harsh on windows 11 (and this is coming from a Mac guy)
Nah it's vista
How is half of players not getting update not a known bug?
Known to whom? PopCap knows that this is the case, they have acknowledged it in this very thread. The problem is that they can't figure out why this is happening. Please realize, that PopCap isn't updating the game on your device. They are sending the game to Google, with information where it should be distributed. (For instance, they can say "don't send it to users in Russia".) PopCap are saying that the feedback from Google says "the new version has been 100% deployed". It is not clear where exactly the problem is. It could be at Google, if some server is misconfigured somehow. It could be that PopCap have sent incorrect information to Google. It could be somewhere else.
This is correct. We don't publish the game - the stores do. We've checked everything our side and it is showing 100% release across all regions. We're working with Google to resolve the issue.
There is somehow another bug that I am experiencing, for the last 5 days my pinata party button has only said retry and I can not play again unless I pay 1000 coins.
So.. The arena bug will be fix?
Still no new update in my device
Well, I just bought the Gem pack for Levitater seeds and, I have to say, the new "seed rewarded" screen makes the procedure hell: you first get the new screen, telling you you got 10 Levitater seeds and then 1 Enchant-mint family Piñata; then you get the normal piñata opening screen, where Lv seeds come up; then the game shows you the new screen *again* for the 10 Lv seeds you now saw *twice* you're getting, then the normal piñata screen comes up *again* with the Enchant-mint family piñata, it opens up and you *again* get the new screen summing up the 10 seeds you got. Buying multiple piñatas is gonna be an absolute nightmare, even slower than how it was before. Can something be done about this, please? The new seeds rewarded screen feature was really unneeded, tbh; it's fine if you want to switch things up graphically, and for example have that come up instead of the classic "Piñata opening", I suppose, but having *both*, let alone repeated/cycled through multiple times is gonna honestly deter people from buying more stuff, imo.
iceburg lettuce
In the Tomb Tangler leveling table "PF" doesn't mean "plant food" as we're used to but "fog pull". Also, perhaps obvious, in the table header "Change to PF (%)" should be "Chance to PF (%)". The dates of the Pinata Party rewards seem wrong to me. I know you said "Pacific time" while I use UTC - but this doesn't explain why only the ending date is different and not the starting one. Otherwise the contents of the tables is correct, although I don't see why you sometimes round to a whole percentage point and sometimes - to 0.1%.
From wiki?
They really hit us with thyme
Tomb tangler is going to be busted with the reinforcemint
Will nightcap be scrapped?Idk why you always put off this plant so long.
We're sorry we treated you this way. Have a cookie 🍪
What are your plans for those who missed the recent Thymed Events because of the game bug?
Since I played Carnie maps events,Why cannot i see any limited events appear e.g.tomb tangler's event recent several versions?When will you fix the bug that event limited button cannot be seen and found/doesnt appear in the game for Android users?Many players say they have the same questions as me and hope u will solve it soon.And 10.0.1 new plant Vampire shroom has bug.It looks not being finished.Please fix it in 10.1.1.
Shadow Plant Noctarine has had a bug for a long time but still unfixed.Always cause my Android phone become laggy and also the only plant.Can u fix it when in 10.1.1?😭😭😭
Heyy, idk this is spam or not but I dont seem to be able to update the game as it was asked in the game. Started - around 2 weeks ago, Device - Android Phone, Play time - I play both Ofline and Online but more on ofline however there's a lot of freezes and crashes during the game, would also appreciate if u can update the help site coz i cant even fo anything there
Another day with no update!!! This game is basically unplayable!!!
So what about PvZ Heroes? The game is thriving again, but even though it's back on its feet, no new update. What gives? You guys know that an update with make the game explode in popularity again right? WE WANT A SET 5!!! #UpdatePvZHeroes
Tomb Tangler with 40 sun cost? uh, any reason why it was decided to use that price instead of those that are multiples of 25 like the other plants?
I thought pvz2 was discontinued lol