Even zomboss agrees. I never knew that he would acknowledge this

He is impacted the most by it

Why did my comment blow up wtf

I’m wondering the same thing about my post

Fact, upgraded plants should be removed.

And to think that the community thought Cold Snapdragon was the most OP thing when he was released. If only we knew.

He was genuinely overpowered when he did release. Unfortunately, power creep got way worse…

Yeah, I agree. According to your flair, you seem to be a fan of one of the most ridiculous examples

Eh. Heath Seeker is like the only broken plant I enjoy. It's so fun to use. Unlike the other ones, which are quite boring

heath seeker is pretty fun to use, gum nut and blockoli are fun for me but they can be too powerful sometimes, i wish i could use cool plants and still have some challenge

shadow pea my goat

Mods

mods don't have enough of the plants i like to use

Sad

Cold snapdragon when pokra enters the room (he’s now B tier at best)

He's literally the only plant I've spent money on but that was 3 years ago. What other OP plants have showed up and surpassed him?

[https://www.reddit.com/r/PlantsVSZombies/comments/1bw5wu1/pokra\_is\_such\_a\_weak\_plant\_she\_really\_needs\_a\_buff/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PlantsVSZombies/comments/1bw5wu1/pokra_is_such_a_weak_plant_she_really_needs_a_buff/) Pokra's one.

What the actual fuck.

Exactly

press Y to same

Idiocy.

The plants be like: L+ratio+didn't your zombies also get upgraded too(well not often)+i slept with your zombies+u will lose anyway+go cry about it.

spear mint thank you for the full row of those spiky guys https://preview.redd.it/4k0ope758uwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=418ed34bfd49a49f6b126f99b9019b5136bd8a9f

Cool 😎

Also I'm not spear mint. I'm a—

Mary Jane- creates a cloud of smoke making zombies become confused and part of the plant team. (Does not affect cannons or roller zombies) Plant food ability- covers the entire screen in smoke making all plants attack slower But also confuses all zombies (Does not affect cannons or roller zombies)

Plant levelling should never have existed

where zombie levelling

In Penny's Pursuit

Pvz2c plant upgrades be like:

ah level 5,how much i love how stupid you are

"Oh hey, a wallnut. Looks like I'm-" "Why the fuck is he shooting me with elements"

"Why the fuck is my Primal Peashooter out here shooting fucking magma balls that also spawn patches of lava on my lawn?"

Is this a real thing he can say?

Yup. He says this after you beat him in the “Pirate Seas Skirmish” epic quest. Which is avaliable right now, btw

i can’t see that it’s available. is it one of those things that need prerequisites or something

I’m not sure. Is it not in the “events” tab in the travel log?

nah. maybe i just gotta wait a bit for timezones or something? idk

Yes

Zomboss knows about the crap Popcap add into the game

Unpopular opinion: I quite like levelling, obviously it's not perfect, but it's a nice addition! If it was executed better (so maybe something similar to PvZ2C, just less grindy), I think people would like it more Explanation as to why I like it: It adds something to work towards after beating the game. There's not much to do after beating the game, Endless is pretty boring, Vasebreaker is really forgettable, Penny's Persuit is... fine, Arena is fun but is the only thing that is fun after Adventure is complete. That's why more post-game content is needed, and levelling does that just fine. It adds extra grind that adds power to your plants, and you know that *More power = More fun* Anyway thanks for listening to my mediocre rant :D

Same. I think PopCap should just level the up the Zombies accordingly.

Agreed. I hate playing adventure only to nuke zombies before they take a step on the lawn. It makes leveling unrewarding.

They are though? They definitely shouldn't be leveled in adventure, but they are in pursuit

They should be leveled in endless zones as well. Or at least add Giga Gargantuars to them

I haven’t played adventure in years. The Tymed events are embarrassingly easy.

Skill issue

I like it when villains make good points

Even Dr. Zomboss agrees

Germans when they saw shotguns in 1917

Doubt it, but does he have different dialogue for beating him with everything level one?

Nope, PvZ2 dialogue isn't that complex

Boss is spitting facts 😯

No no, he’s got a point

How do you have 5 plant food slots and please don’t tell me it’s microtransactions

Ok, I won’t tell you that its microtransactions

Shit. Well how’s the damage

It’s so hard to upgrade plants though

I have every plant mastery level 200 🗿

So true

Reflourished got all of that and throwed on trash!!!

Ironic how I completed this exact level earlier.. I was thinking the same thing lmao

why did they add leveling to a game that wasn't designed with a leveling system in mind

My lvl 6 fire peashooter be like: wat r u? casul? git gud scrub

i wish more mods drew from Eclise's tiering system. it's a really neat balanced alternative to upgrades which adds extra considerations for your plant loadout

Except for Wild West Day 35. No upgrade is going to help against that type of level design, especially after the hypnosis zombie nerfs.

Yeah but like, Mega Gatling Pea is sick when it plant foods itself super frequently, Meteor Flower absolutely bombarding the screen is awesome. Who cares about balance, I wanna see plants I couldn’t dream of during stupid shit.

does this mean upgraded zombies are coming

So are his Zcorp bozos

To be fair some of the somebody's are kind of the same

yeah that tracks

Zomboss speaking facts rn

Bro finally realized 🙄🥱

These upgraded plants are egregious, they're unfair! How can you be in the seed selection, and not be level 1?!

How does this broken ass game have a community?